Hananim (EUW)
: Used to main him last year. No pta, go conqueror, no cull/dorans go corrupting pot. You cant fight some champs until you finish cleaver+deaths dance which is your big powerspike. Dont play hyperaggro just take small trades and try to outlast your opponent with timewarp tonic+corruption pot+biscuits.
I'll try ty. Any tips for farming while you get sht on in lane? That would help XD. I just opened op.gg and found this 54.94% 18.61% sett winrate and pickrate. Well...
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=IsONgMgr,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2020-01-26T13:40:05.379+0000) > > The more i read the more it hurts, man i'm feeling sorry for you right now. This comment is just so.... Ouch. Take it easy man, don't strain your brain two much. I don't want to feel sorry for you. It's just a videogame board, there's nothing at stake. Chill, just chill.
Ok my comment got deleted lol, but anyway, let me tell you why your comment is so wrong. 1. A better fiora would have won it? ---> For sure, no doubt about that, as i said at the start i thought i was gonna feed, but this is not the topic here so you're pointing out something useless 2. It's called lategame scaling. ------> NO, NO AND NOOOOOOOO. I said she was 1/8, she had almost HALF of my cs, her items were 1250G PHAGE 1100G NINJA TABIS 1325G TIAMAT. THAT IS NOT LATE GAME SCALING, in late game you have 12-16k gold not 4k. Did you even think about how to answer before actually doing it? My god. 3. Thinking that won lane = won game it's the hallmark of a noob -------> Did i ever say i expected to automatically win the game? Did i? No. I simply argued about a guy losing lane and being so behind going around slamming people 1v1 and 1v2, which is QUITE problematic in my opinion. Idk guys do you come here just to defend riot and say everything is perfectly balanced? Is it too hard to put some actual effort into thinking about what people are saying and give a proper answer?
Kurotsu (EUW)
: This is possible and this is a 1 in millions scenario I can pick out thousands of weird cases where Soraka 1v1d a Fizz or something, I wouldn't say the whole game is imbalanced because of that The fact that such things happen is actually good, cause it keeps things unpredictable and different. Now if Fiora was **Consistently** wrecking 1v2 even when being behind in **everyone's** games then they'd just nerf her.
Yes, fiora consistently wrecked people with those stats, so yes, they should just nerf her, no wait i don't think a nerf will resolve anything, because the kit itself is wrong, i think they should straight up rework her. There are 2 types of damage: flat, which you counter by building resistances and a lot of hp, and on health damage that you counter by building resistances, a lot of resistances. Fiora has (like vayne) on health true damage, how am i supposed to play against that? Moreover, her passive aside from doing on health true damage heals a ton, and she wins every trade in early, her q cooldown will fade to 1s, her W is a guaranteed "nope you can't damage me", and also takes away half of your atk speed, which may sound stupid but usually i die exactly for this reason, because i can't give one last autoattack with 0.3 attack speed, and she Q E E me and i die, also her ultimate is disgusting. Wanna fight? You die. Wanna run? 30-40-50% bonus move speed, try it lul. and that healing at the end oh my god this 1/9 fiora was almost able to kill me 1v1 by ulting me hitting all vitals healing with her ult more than half hp AND i had executioner calling at the time. And she still didn't have a single completed item. Plain BS if you ask me.
: A better {{champion:114}} would have won it. It's called lategame scaling. {{champion:6}} scales quite well too, and i won a game because of that just yesterday. It's not imbalance, it's knowing how the game works. There are some champs you always have to treat carefully, even if they are behind. Thinking that won lane = won game it's the hallmark of a noob.
I can't believe you've done that. I just can't. Please read again, carefully this time.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pNAAy47R,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-25T13:21:01.897+0000) > > Yes snowballing happens, and it happens frequently, i almost never see a game where the 2 teams fight equally, maybe 1 game every 40 or 50 maybe more. What i'm saying it's wrong is that instead of trying to think "what can i do now?" "where can i gank?" "where is the enemy jungler?" "can i get some advantage if i do this?" you just pick taric yi, play in the goddamn same way every game, and get a GUARANTEED victory. You don't "build a lead" to snowball, you build your snowball simply by locking in your champion, is this fair? Should you win because you chose the right champion? Should you be regarded as the best FPS player in the world, when you're using aimbot to be the best? No you're fu%%ing cheating and you get a ban instead, sucker. Should you get rewarded for diving people and killing them and they can't even do sh%t against you? Do you deserve this? In case you're wondering the answer is again **FU%%ING NO**, why should you be? I hope you get my point. Yi IsN't bRoKeN
NoT At aLL mAn YOu'rE rigHT, MaYBe tHe sONa gUY iS tHe mEsSIaH pRAisE hIm (does that guy really think d3 in bronze winning can demonstrate anything? Big yikes lul)
: Erm.... dude this is my new account https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Report%20Sona%20Mid Im doing a 100 game climb from bronze. There is even a thread here where i am showing the progress to prove this game is not forcing 50% win rates, or giving me feeders that cannot be stopped etc Im literally smashing these dumb old myths in the face and doing it publicly so people can stop talking nonsense. Yes there are some overtuned champions. Diana, Kassadin, Aphelios, Akali... they are definitely not balanced well. The other 140 champs are all manageable so stop worrying, and get your team to ban or pick these.
Ok so, 1.5%, this is the percentage of players in diamond, now, you're not demonstrating that league ranked ladder is skillbase, nor you're demonstrating that it's hard to find smurfs, you're demonstrating that it's hard to find smurfs that come from the 1.5% percent of the league population into bronze, which is pretty obvious since they can be anywhere else in the ladder, not all diamonds smurf, so it's not even 1.5%, maybe it is 0.2% idk random numbers here, but they could be EVERYWHERE and you're trying to find em in a BRONZE? Also you stomping bronzes DOES NOT PROVE ANYTHING, if not that you play better than a bronze, and this should be obvious if you're diamond. A game in league of legends can be heavily affected by a single player, only when he is so much better than the average that he can solo carry, and that's what you're doing. In every "balanced" game the outcome will depend on the whole team, and on the picks, sure the better you play the better the result, but you're not guaranteed to get rewarded for your efforts. CAN WE STOP THE BS?????? Guys everyone of you thinks that balls are round, but here i have the proof of the opposite, i pierced this ball and now it's flat. This is more or less your "bronze climb 100 games", what are you even trying to achieve? I hope this will be my last message to you, my time is not worth it.
: Your chances of getting smurfed on in a game, or facing boosters is low to VERY low. And they exist in ALL Elo brackets as well, so why dont you learn how to counter funnelling? improve your gameplay and recognise that in the long run you can still easily win more games than you lose? Crying over losing 5/100 games to smurfs is so pointless, when most are beatable by focusing/avoiding them (i have lost a game in silver so there is hope). Funelling is just a strategy to win, you dont even have to blatantly pick Yi/Taric. TSM used to funnel gold to Reginalds TF, by freezing waves most games so he could roam and pick up 2 extra waves, infact most clued up teams will let the hypercarry get as fed as possible so they can do their job better. You are asking riot to effectively remove gold, since anyone successful player can get fed by team mates helping.
Chances of getting smurfs are low ---------> if you were D3 just like me you should know that a good part of the games were affected by the smurf d2 adc going 0/5 and afk because the support sucks, or the jungler flaming and coming to steal cs because he doesn't care about the account. Problems with smurf sure is that they play unconstested in the game, but the biggest problem is their attitude which they can adopt thx to account trade, if they didn't have so many accounts they would think twice before calling some1 can%%r. That's why they should be moderated. Crying over losing 5/100 games to smurfs is so pointless, when most are beatable by focusing/avoiding them ------> you what? You think if you focus them you're gonna win? Being smurfs they should be better at the game and will find a way to deal with you. Ignore them? Sure, till you can at least, when it's 20 min and they're 10/0 i wanna see how you ignore them, can you stop spitting BS. You are asking riot to effectively remove gold, since anyone successful player can get fed by team mates helping. ------> OH MY GOD NO, i'm not asking to remove gold, funneling strategy actually gives your team less gold overall, it's the distribution the problem, a 4k gold support and a 14k gold jungler killing everyone, i'm asking to remove free elo strat and autowin, IN CASE I DIDN'T REPEAT IT ENOUGH TIMES :>, but it seems you got some problems in the comprehension field.
: just say no to the swap - why would viktor even ask for a swap - he is afraid of Taric wow!!
I think he knew what funneling implies if you're against taric (getting dived constantly and viktor w isn't exactly reliable against that) i also had informed my team that akali was a pretty bad matchup for urgot since she's a huge counter so the swap wasn't a so bad idea. We hoped vik would win vs akali while i held up the lane, he didn't manage to win tho.
Papa Muerte (EUNE)
: Why would you even rant about it like holy hell man. Game is equal to everyone. Stop crying dude. Get a partner your self, and master the strat. Who gives a singl/ f/ about the thing that you not put any effort into. IF YOU LOSE TO IT THEN MASTER IT AND BECOME BETTER. GAME IS EQUAL TO EVERYONE, YOUR OWN PROBLEM DUDE, SORT YOUR GAME PLAY.
Oh sure, game is equal to everyone, if there is a broken strat with 70% winrate just master it and go play it, nothing more beautiful with 150 champions than being obliged to play one if you wanna win, and become a metaslave. F%ck the other junglers and midlaner champions, taric yi everywhere. You main adcarry but enemy yi taric is stomping every game you meet them? Just change your main role and go play yi, this is how game desing should work. There should be taric yi every game because now everyone wants to play it. You know what? Let's remove draft and put ranked blindpick, so both teams can now have their own taric yi strat. You're truly a genius and i think you should go work for riot, your brilliant ideas can bring many improvements to this game, good luck my man, now i truly see this game in a new light. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: Your lane is free as %%%% if you are vs Taric - why not go Vayne? If you look at your team its a bit troll: Urgot top, ekko jungle, viktor mid senna adc karma support Here is whats bad. ekko jungle is broken and is a strong pick vs Yi. But if you look at op.gg it shows him doing the worst on your team he got 4.4 in score, like did he go afk or int or what? There was something about this Ekko that doesnt make sense. Viktor can easily 1v1 Yi even before taric ult procs, and he should easily win vs Taric. He also went lichbane before zhonya which is troll if you are losing the game. The fact that he only did 13,965k dmg in a 26 min game is a worrying trend. and he takes barrier and aery vs taric. Like cmon bro and he calls himself diamond? Silvers plays better than this. Here is a game of similar length and we also lose, i did 31,7k dmg as viktor https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4372545471/201713713?tab=stats Urgot, you build zhonya and rightous glorie, like what are those items? Do you wanna run towards Yi or what do you expect to happen? Again i have seen silvers buy better items. Here is another thing. It looks like you won your lane you had slightly more gold than akali, but still if you compare your gold to your own teams gold, you had the 2nd lowest gold in your team for most part of the game. Only karma had less gold than you. Think about that, how can you get more gold when you are ahead of your laner. Then you have Senna as adc - just dont, learn to play real adcs. or go ap. Of course you die to yi if you have something like Senna running around thinking its a good pick as adc. He also have glacial augment, yeah that thing will do a real difference vs master yi, a real difference i tell you. Then there is karma. Karma is only strong in lane. After that becomes quite useless. Not a good pick either when you have good picks in the enemy team. So yeah just blame all you want on taric yi combo, while completely ignoring your own team deficiencies.
Viktor asked for a swap, and so we did, ekko got invaded constantly by yi taric and even tho i went to help yi just popped W and we didn't kill him, then his Q was back and we lost 3v3, all dying, because his kit is pretty balanced, ii was buildinz zhonya because the only thing i could do at that point was prevent master yi from getting his ultimate reset, he dealt too much damage, and we couldn't even take him down before taric ultimates popped, because you know, kinda untargetable. You've seen silver players playing better than us, but i've seen bronze players trying to reason before they cluelessly start spitting bullsh%t, maybe you should follow their example.
: Its 99% skill. Check my other post here, there is a link to my current bronze 4 100 game climb.
A D3 playing in bronze wow, hey guys come play with me on starcraft 2, i've been playing it since 10 years and know every secret and strategy, but i'm sure you'll do fine on your first time and it will be a fair game h3h3. If it's 99% skill, then show me how you win 99 games out of 100 on your main account. You won't be able to win 99 games out of 100 even in low platinum, but please do the experiment and show me the results.
: I dont know if you have seen this other broken boost strat. But you need to pick Sona support, and then you play the game for 5 years learning all the mechanics and fundamentals. Then you just go into a new account and boost with 93% win rate. https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Report%20Sona%20Mid Heres one guy abusing right now, its so broken i hope riot nerfs player skill next patch Heres a guide as to what this booster/abuser does. https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/u7H6A3u9-misconceptions-pt2-proof-that-solo-queue-is-99-skill-100-games-climbing-challenge-from-bronze-4
Oh wow, so i say that funneling, a braindead strategy, should be destroyed because it's an easy way to win and a straight cheat, and you reply boasting about a D3 going to play in bronze 4 and winning a lot. How should i even respond? I got annihilated. So what is your point? You're saying that funneling works because people smurf and hence they are better? NO it's not like that, of course smurfs are gonna stomp, even more with BS strats, but i've often seen random people stuck in their elos, then they start funneling and magically go 1 league higher at least. Guess what happens if they play other champions normally? They get sh%t on because they can't play at that level. So yes you kinda missed the point there, gl with your smurfing btw i hope you're having fun at least.
: If you take a step a bit further back, you may see the bigger picture, where funneling is but a single strategy that lets people abuse a much deeper and much more fundamental issue, that's called 'snowballing'. This thing... > Eventually he'll become a giant raidboss killing everyone in his way ...happens in many other cases too, you know? Smurfs, hard feeders, good counter-picks, early spike champions, lucky kills — all of this, and much more. It's just that it happens mostly in Bronze and Silver, not above Gold. If only high-Elo players cared about bronze-league health a bit more, instead of abusing all the broken things there, if only they raised their voices in defense of those who are not so skilled... then maybe this balancing disease would be cured in time, and would not spread upwards now.
Yes snowballing happens, and it happens frequently, i almost never see a game where the 2 teams fight equally, maybe 1 game every 40 or 50 maybe more. What i'm saying it's wrong is that instead of trying to think "what can i do now?" "where can i gank?" "where is the enemy jungler?" "can i get some advantage if i do this?" you just pick taric yi, play in the goddamn same way every game, and get a GUARANTEED victory. You don't "build a lead" to snowball, you build your snowball simply by locking in your champion, is this fair? Should you win because you chose the right champion? Should you be regarded as the best FPS player in the world, when you're using aimbot to be the best? No you're fu%%ing cheating and you get a ban instead, sucker. Should you get rewarded for diving people and killing them and they can't even do sh%t against you? Do you deserve this? In case you're wondering the answer is again **FU%%ING NO**, why should you be? I hope you get my point.
Croffins (EUW)
: OK this is so interesting
To the guys saying that urgot outscales mordekaiser, even if he did (which i don't think because mordekaiser can build a liandry which is MASSIVE and a zhonya which counters urgot ultimate) there is no way to reach that point, at least alone, because you get SO zoned that you fall really behind in CS. Mordekaiser got more range, sustain and trading power, your Q for his Q is never worth, first because he does 3x your damage since urgot Q get maxed second and it's damage is really low, second because he got doran shield and W that will allow him to heal that trade entirely. Yes you can counter his E with yours, but you need mana and eventually kinda lose the trade because your resources are gonna run out. Concerning 1v1, i tried to go all in lvl 3 or 4, i just got stomped by his giant shield, urgot has only a way in and no way out, so you gotta commit, and wasting all of your W on his shield is gonna cost you the kill, W has also a cooldown too high to interrupt it and wait for it to come up again so you don't hit the shield, so you lose. It's the same with ultimate up, yes you can ult him inside his realm but his shield is just gonna deny your damage and execute threshold will not be reached. I saw that i almost won 1v1 when i got black cleaver so i think the tip here is to rush 450g MR cape and cleaver, then you can 1v1 probably, but even then the main concern is that in the 14-15 minutes you need to do that some things can happen: 1. Mordekaiser got perma prio and invades your jungler, eventually the guy will fall behind and you're fked, literally, even your jungler get's a disadvantage and coming back is gonna be really hard, morde can also get some kills so maybe you won't be even able to outscale him for longer. 2. You can get dived because you're weak and probably lost some hp to try and farm, wave is crashed and you are gonna die, maybe losing 1 or 2 waves of gold and exp. SoloQ is harsh, you can't rely on your teammates and even if you could you can't expect the jungler to support you everytime you get countered this hard, this matchup is hell and i think it impacts REALLY negatively your chances of winning, i think dodging here is the most viable choice. I don't think it's fair for you to lose just to being counterpicked, a counterpick should yes be stronger than you, but not completely throw you out of the game, this is plain wrong and there are some unplayable matchups like this which will definitely earn you some flame by your teammates, who will see your farm and just insult you, when you did nothing wrong, take Aatrox vs Fiora as example. The game should vert more on the player's skill than on the champion statistics and kits, otherwise instead of playing the actual game riot can move the ranked ladder on the prodraft site, so you can just win by choosing a better comp and people don't go wasting 25 minutes of time. I rather lose 6 minutes dodgind that 25 minutes auto losing, but it's still time i waste because the game balance is lacking in every aspect, unacceptable.
: Study the match up and look for weaknesses. Morde is definitely strong at the moment, but im sure theres a way to keep him at bay in lane. Remember you dont have to win lane, just keep up in CS/level and deny him any chance to snowball. I would be surprised if its just not possible to at least stand off against him.
I suggest you try the matchup for yourself, it was absolute hell because urgot got low range and can't even afford to farm with a 80 mana cost Q, his only ranged spell, i was constantly under my tower zoned from farm even there, and constantly harassed by his Q which is does way more damage than mine, making trading impossible, the only way for urgot to trade is to E forward and start a little fight, be he destroyed me if i tried that. So i was farming with evident disadvantage, and i could get dived any moment, like they did in fact, because i can't even clear the wave fast enough to avoid that. His shield and sustain made it even worse for me since i had no sustain at all. Believe me it was totally out of this world.
Rioter Comments
Wex0r (EUW)
: can you give me a quick run down on what funneling is ? like does it only work with master YI , im kinda lost cos from it sounds like is you just boost 1 champion on your team to insane proportions .
The part about boosting one champion to insane proportions is exactly spot on. Funneling is the strategy of picking a support champion in solo lane (mostly mid right now but it was also popular top), so you can give all the gold to your jungler (a carry with good late game scaling, master yi, twitch, even kaisa was used, mind that this was spammed in every competitive game and that's why it got "nerfed", but still works in soloQ). The jungler will farm both the jungle and the lane, and the support will follow him and help him. Initially the jungler will get so much gold from farm he will buy items faster, they will roam a lot and invade a lot together (it's difficult to contrast them as a solo laner because they'll turn on you and kill you if you try). They eventually start invading the enemy jgl, and maybe killing him, they also steal camps, but they don't stop there, they go to get every possible kill, if they got level 6 you're going to get dived 100%. Eventually he'll become a giant raidboss killing everyone in his way, having a gold lead of 3-5k gold on the enemy jungler is not unusual with this strategy, and it will reach the point when you won't be able to beat him even in a 5v5, because he is so strong and fed that you just lose no matter what. It was also a popular strategy in 3v3 twisted treeline featuring for example taric graves or taric udyr, gameplay was the same, you were level 5 and a level 7 udyr would just come and oneshot you over and over, along with his level 3 taric.
: Another nerf? Really?
A good akali, and i mean actually good, will give you no space to play, unless of course you counterpick her, and this is not a fair gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF6bnJLcK8g you think this should be allowed? Sure the player is good, but if he's facing people of the same skill level yet they die like minions i think there's something wrong.
Wolferk (EUNE)
: TrueDamage won't sell itself ) Akali and Ekko need to be popular and broken )
: The fact ekko got throught this patch without a nerf is a joke
Rioter Comments
Croffins (EUW)
: Oh wow now that really is simple, and appliable by everyone xd. All you need to do to beat funneling is being a jungler, counterpicking yi so you beat him 1v1 and leaving him behind. Now imagine a scenario where you picked before the yi, so the counterpick is gone, you also are not a jungler but a toplaner, so the being a jungler option is gone too, and with that even the leaving him behind option is gone because you gotta manage your own lane and can't invade and steal camps. Also having TARZANED vision of the game might help, and everyone can do it, not like he's one of the top challengers junglers at all, nope, he's your average no one, and every gold/plat/dia but why not, even silver and bronze player can reapply what he did right there. Definitely gonna try that, ty for the amazing guide (if you detect sarcasm you're probably wrong btw xd).
Oh average rank on that game was diamond 2 while he's a top challenger, so we can add that another reliable strategy to beat funneling is to smurf, again totally easy to apply, why would you want to play on your main account and rank when you can create a smurf go play 2 leagues below yours just so you can beat a funneling when you encounter it? I'm truly petrified by the weaknesses of this strat, how do people even manage to win? Xd.
Wolity (EUW)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJBcPDJDqd8&t
Oh wow now that really is simple, and appliable by everyone xd. All you need to do to beat funneling is being a jungler, counterpicking yi so you beat him 1v1 and leaving him behind. Now imagine a scenario where you picked before the yi, so the counterpick is gone, you also are not a jungler but a toplaner, so the being a jungler option is gone too, and with that even the leaving him behind option is gone because you gotta manage your own lane and can't invade and steal camps. Also having TARZANED vision of the game might help, and everyone can do it, not like he's one of the top challengers junglers at all, nope, he's your average no one, and every gold/plat/dia but why not, even silver and bronze player can reapply what he did right there. Definitely gonna try that, ty for the amazing guide (if you detect sarcasm you're probably wrong btw xd).
bartvader (EUW)
: Amount of smurfs in ranked is way over the roof, take a break for a few weeks.
Not like rito is gonna ever solve this problem of ppl shittalking and leaving games because they don't care about those accounts, accounts that they BOUGHT, and since the price is cheap they can now flame without a concern of getting banned because they can buy all they want and start again without consequences. Yeah really important, sure, but now let's focus for a moment on our real objective for this 2020, putting out 120+ skins, so all of you can enjoy them while getting sht on and permaflamed into oblivion.
Wolity (EUW)
: Its super eazy to counter tho. And if you counter it , the game is almost a 100% win.
Yes, it is theoretically, but in an actual game my teammates totally and completely ignore what i have to say, and the result is a frustrating game where i can do nothing, just walking around wasting my time till they win. I still remember that one time i told my midlane "man it's twitch jgl he's gonna gank you after red", i had bought a pink lvl 1 because i was ornn, put it in the lower mid bush (we were red side hence twitch came from below), twitch got spotted by the ward, my guy didn't see him, but even if he didn't see him, he was playing aggressively when i told him a twitch with redbuff was coming for his ass, and he died. Teammates are not reliable and as it is now the funneling strategy even tho super easy to counter by higher elo players is a massive disgusting and unfair strat which can make a lot of players not enjoy their time, especially if you're the one player matching the support of the funneling strategy, because YOU'RE GONNA GET RAN OVER BY DIVES AGAIN AND AGAIN, and without your jungler helping there's nothing you can do most of the times (spoiler alert: your jungler isn't gonna help you most of the times, based on my personal experience). I tried even rushing zhonyas to stop the dives but yi can just reset the aggro on minions. I mean, why would a free win strat be allowed anyway? You're not gonna get challenger, for sure, but a good portion of the ladder is at risk of finding this strat and having a hellish game. Maybe there's an even worse aspect to this, the BM, players who play disgusting champions or strats and have a really high winrate think they're godlike or something, and proceed to start throwing sht at you, whenever they get fed (most of the times) they start insulting you and telling you how sht you are at this game, and while this should lead to some kind of punishment and get them fkin banned, what angers me is that they think they're good when they just play something brokenly reta***d, and the boast about it to make themselves feel better. How fkin sad can this get? It goes beyond "competitive BS" it's straight hate speech because it's the same as calling you a ret**d, and they enjoy it so much. They actually play the game to get fed sht on others and insult them for being so bad at the game, this is their kind of fun, but behavioural issues aside, playing against unfair things is boring, and you can either play broken things yourself or keep getting sht on most of the times, even if you do well. That's my thought, hope the funneling will receive some SERIOUS nerfs, because monster hunter is clearly not enough if it keeps working.
Rioter Comments
: - to be honest - I think the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in!!
https://youtu.be/ViAV-18lgkE?t=569 here you go this is the definition found on a riot survey read out loud by T1T1T1T1T1T1T1T1T1: "Game balance is the goal of making sure that games are fair and that all of our champions have distinct strenghts and weaknesses, such that no one champion is stronger than all others" and i'll be honest here, when i'm thresh, and i try to save my adc from an high mobility assassin, being impossible to hit my spells against him and refraining him from destroying my backline, i see too many strenghts and too few weaknesses, because he gets to do exactly what he wants and i can't counter that. Am i being unreasonable? : >
Câstiél (EUW)
: > You got like the worst champions poppin out of nowhere and killing you without counterplay Can you give me an example of a champ like that? Because right now, most have a lot of counterplay. Akali is quite weak right now and not really a candidate who will towerdive you when she is alone and not ahead. Akalis winrate is at 48% in plat+, while it goes down to 41% in masters+. That seems unbalanced to me, but not in the "too strong" direction. Qiyana on the other hand is quite balanced (allthoug she wont towerdive you either). Ryze is a mess right now. His wr in plat+ is at 43%, with a pick rate of 8%. Yeah... completely broken, way too much damage. If you mean broken in terms of either too weak or too strong, I agree. But that's honestly just ryze, his whole concept is just a nightmare to balance and should be reworked entirely, with a whole new kit. > the same champions picked OVER AND OVER It's always been like that, since in MOBAs, you have a meta. And there's no way around that. Or do you have a solution to get rid of meta?
Uhhh, you talk a lot about winrates, i'm talking about in game experience, i don't know why the general stats work like that, assuming that they are correctly gathered, i just see champions, not fed champions, or even behind champions, completely annihilating you. Yes, akali usually doesn't tower dive alone, wanna know why? Because once she hits 6 she usually kills you so fast you don't even manage to walk to tower. There is a meta in MOBAs ok, but i don't think that some champions should represent the 100% of the pickrate, while some others aren't even played at all, what's the point of having 150 champions, if you only can play like 40? (I'm making random numbers here) Also what's the point of creating new champions if you already can't manage what is in your hands right now? Meta exists, it is a fact, and play out of meta is harder, ok, but here the situation is different, offmeta picks most of the times are not harder, they're just straight up free lose, and you get considered a troll just for not sticking to the meta, and i'm not talking about exotic strats like idk evelynn adc or random shit, i'm talking about champions who don't even appear in the role they were meant to cover. Last time i saw a trundle top? When they added sanguine blade because trick2g fans were emulating him, before that? Was trundle even played in s9 soloQ at all? Mundo? Mundo is a toplaner but he gets destroyed so hard in that lane that no one plays him, and for good reasons, he turned out to be an ok jungler tho so we saw him a lot jgl for a short period, and now he's gone. Wanna come to copy and paste some numbers into my face when i'm talking about real in game experience? Ok let's assume i'm wrong here, then i'm simply unlucky to get every single enemy akali who is too good to play in my elo and goes 12/3, or katarina snowballing. Their winrate might be average or even low, maybe they can't carry their team, but i can assure most of the times champions like those get an advantage so huge that if their team wasn't so behind it would be impossible to achieve something, and sometimes it still is.
Rioter Comments
: - to be honest - I think the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in!!
You got like the worst champions poppin out of nowhere and killing you without counterplay, towers don't even matter to them because you die so fast you that not you or your tower can react in time (see qiyana akali just to show some examples), the 4th rework ryze still broken and cassio being a gatling gun etc etc, the same champions picked OVER AND OVER while there is like a good 70% of the entire pool played only by onetrick because if you pick offmeta you LOSE AUTOMATICALLY IN CHAMP SELECT, dragons souls being broken af and always going without contest to some team because the other is so behind they can't even get close to the fkin drake pit. Does this seem balanced to you?
: This game is so frustrating
Upvote this, he is right, and i think a lot of users are realizing by now that the game sucked for a long time, the last period tho was plain disgusting, champs are broken and users are toxic af, there's 0 respect in the rift, and champions like brokali or brokiven or broklaf or bryzoken still freely playing 1v9, just to cite some examples. Counterplay is nope and community is trash, smurfs everywhere leisurely going afk because they don't care about their 17 smurfs accounts, and just leave the game if they don't like it or you don't listen to them. RIOT. FIX. THE. GAME.
Rinart73 (EUW)
: Aphelios has no place in this game. At least not with his current kit
I agree latest champion are truly overloaded and unfun to play against, but it's not just them, there's yi playin 1v4 after he got his items if there's no lulu to polymorph him since ever, there's fkin vladimir havin 3k hp and oneshotting you while doing 40k damage and 61k healing per game, while also giving you the choice between ignoring him and die or focus him and waste your cooldowns on W+Zhonyas and 3k healing, then there's zoe who got nerfed repeatedly but still oneshots you, fkin evelynn popping out of nowhere and denying your MR till it reaches 0, katarina jumping everywhere getting another quadrakill and snowballing till 22/3, aphelios doing random sht that 90% of the players don't even know how to counter because his kit is too long and complex to remember, then there's the ""NERFED"" funneling strategy which still works at least until D3, and ppl abuse it to grind fast, then there's zyra with no items dealing more damage than his adc and midlaner combined, akali hitting 6 and you can either giveup all cs or die because you're never gonna survive her full combo, NEVER, btw 8% less damage to minions so while you giveup all of them maybe she'll lose 1 or 2 that's a pretty solid nerf, but wait there's more, qiyana with 60cs at 23 minutes because she can ignore farm and go roam all game since everytime she encounters some1 she got a free kill, missing champions but hitting walls with the ult and still chopping off half hp from everyone who gets hit by the shockwave, ryze building catalyst and tear and pissing on your grave at minute 5 but hey he's a late game champion so wait until he scales and maybe you'll get oneshot with a 3.8k damage E Q, khazix killing you for the 6th time at minute 10 with E Q aa and 1300 damage, kaisa still being the strongest adc since she came out, dashing and shielding herself and going invisible after so you can miss all of your skills, while also having as much burst damage as an assassin with her Q and so on. This game is a fkin mess lol and here i am trying to play some aatrox just to get smashed without counterplay and even camped by the enemy jgl, just to get 0/8 and receive all the hate my team has to offer. But i wonder why they should stop making new broken champions and try to fix the actual problems, there are more skins being released in a single patch (fkin 13, for a total of afkintonofRP) than meaningful balance changes in an entire season, maybe even 2 or 3. I'm disgusted :|
: Game lag and FPS drops
That is absolutely true, but not just from the last to patches, game is waaay heavier than it was 1 year ago, i used to easily play on a low end pc in a range from 100 fps to 40 when there were huge teamfights with the worst possible particles, to 90 fps before minions spawn, around 70-75 in lane phase randomly dropping at 50, 20-30 fps if there's a drake in my screen, even 5-10 or complete freeze if we 5v5 around drake pit while drake is up. Please guys we should upvote this and make riot notice that there are a lot of users playing on low-end pc who're not having a good time at all, and before some1 comments with "can't you just buy a new computer?", you really think i wouldn't like to be able to buy a new one xd????????? Jokes aside, really, upvote this because it's true hell in game and losing just because the fps drop or freeze at the wrong moment isn't enjoyable at all. Ty.
ºShiroº (EUW)
: How long have you been waiting, as i said it keeps me hostage for over half an hour by now
I was lucky, ten minutes of scouting at most then all was gone.
: Bug: Cant Open Mastery Page/Change Masteries
Apparently my rune pages got deleted, all of them, maybe an issue related to clash exploding and bugging everything in the client :> GG <3 Riot {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
ºShiroº (EUW)
: Stuck in Clash lobby
Give it some minutes, you'll be automatically thrown out of clash after it retries to start the game few times, at least this is how it worked for me. I'm happy that at least the ticket was free, but hey, clash has gone down the drain once again, great job riot.
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Kurotsu (EUW)
: The nature of League is 5v5 competitive. People focus too much on one single game, but the true way to take League is over hundreds of games. You only need 51%+ winrate to climb. So those people that cant stand losing even though its inevitable always throw random blames and insults at each other to cover up their own mistakes. The worst thing you can do is react to it :) just wish them a nice day and ignore them for the rest of the game. In the end they will stay where they are, and you will climb up. I think that's what matters.
They're in every elo, you're bound to meet them, it's not like there's an elo that is like a gate for flamers.
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Silent Note (EUNE)
: What about girls that aren't egirls?
Ofc i was joking there, all normal girls are welcome too <3
Rioter Comments
: Dog Shit Ryze Changes
I think they know they're uncapable of balancing ryze and wanna get him out of the competitive scene but since they can't just disable the champ shiet nerfs incoming. I'm sorry for you i know what it feels like when your main gets destroyed, but trust me when i tell it was vexing to play vs ryze, once i got deleted in lane phase by a lethal tempo ryze with a tear, not the best experience i've had in toplane honestly. They'll eventually buff him back after whatever they gotta do in esports now or maybe come up with another rework in the meantime.
Chrysies (EUW)
: To use the typical comment, guess you reached your skill level since you couldn't carry the lobby.. Hope you get teams good enough to do all the hard work, so you just have to lean back and last hit.., this game needs more of your kind.. One or both may be sarcasm, go figure.
: For Nasus I have a feeling his R (Fury of the Sands) should recieve a little rework. His ult could for starters give him a min amount of stacks (let's say 100 for every rank). If he already has this amount of stacks the amount of stats that overflow are added as bonus health to him while keeping his existing stacks offcourse. When nasus kills a enemy champion nasus gains let's say 50 tempory stacks and his Q cooldown is refreshed. If it's a minion only his cooldown is refreshed. Another thing they could try todo is giving nasus the tempory increase to the minimum threshhold as permament stacks if he sucesfully killed his target. This could reward nasus to teamfight.
I'm not sure what could happen with a change like this, but i will try to make a predict here. I think nasus would still be a coinflip champ, they should totally rethink his laning phase and teamfight, changing the stacks gain and interactions will still see him useless if he can't get them, and with that kit he's getting either too big or too useless, a total champ rework should happen, it's not even a problem of the actual meta, he was like that since he came out, rito pls :\
: What i hate the most in thos lol era is early vs late champs difference... if u pick an early champ u are oblidged to end the game at 25-30 mins max... if u don't, the champ falls way WAY too behind which results in changing playstyle into going tanky so at least u can be a meat shield for your adc/mage. As for the late game champs... i hate every damn thing about late game... how a 0/10 champ (yes looking at u Kog,Twitch,Vayne,Yi,Kayle,Veigar,Vlad) will be useless whole game but after 30 mins u know u can't get close to him no matter how fed u are.. and to conpensate u have 50 secs death timers... so no matter how hard they get nerfed if they have a team that can hold their own for 30 mins its a guaranteed win...
Generally the early champions are gonna win most of the games, since this season is all about who gets an advantage first, also late game champs like veigar often get so sht on they won't ever even comeback, having like 3 items when they should've 4.5. The best solution is ofc picking champions that are strong in every phase of the game (Riven, jax, irelia, etc.) but i think that even going for an early and mid game champ should be a good choice. Yi vlad vayne and twitch don't even have to wait for late, they need to wait level 6, but they can still go last hit a few kills and become huge (yi and twitch jgl especially). I am, well, was a veigar player, and trust me, i played to get to that late game, and while i tried to be as safe as possible, i often got 0/5 camped by enemy jgl while 70 vs 130 cs almost every single game, other lanes also usually lost, so i gave up on the "farm till late" strategy, it was just too risky, maybe if you're full premade you can try tho. The champion difference tho is pretty frustrating in a solo lane, when you get that jungler that no matters what just won't gank you and i admit that being a toplaner that is pretty frustrating, because you're isolated versus a pick that does better than you in every situation, and you know you'll lose, so lose some cs to avoid dying, lose even the tower, than that guy is fed because he could get perfect farm and you get flamed by your team because you're useless. I think that this is the kind of blame that should get punished the most actually, because it often happens, and you get flamed for something that's not even your fault, the reason? As some of the comments you can see below, they accused me of "crying", and while you could call "crying" making a complaint with no valid reason or any real proofs to support your opinion. Since i'm complaining about some problems that should be obvious to most of the community who has just a bit of capability in observing, while even explaining why, to call of this "crying" you must be affect by a really severe desease, as for the guys who don't help a losing lane and then complain about the poor player being useless, and that is IGNORANCE, ignorance due to lack of awareness. Their obliviousness is what makes the community so hard to talk to, they think they're right and won't even try to listen, while they didn't even bother to understand what's happening, truly truly disappointing.
: Well, they did nerf rageblade just this patch and it was a problem in soloq (still is on select few champs like yi). It wasn't really even used in pro play outside of neeko. They do balance things for soloq as well but it usually takes a lot longer time than for pro play. They have clearly focused a lot more (overall, not comparing it to game balance) on money recently though. There have been a lot of passes since the first kda (worlds) pass. There have been like 6 different passes since last worlds.
Another bad thing about balance, they nerf the items and/or runes and not the champions. Guys with a stacked guinsoo vayne can deal 28% of your max health in true damage with only 4 basic attacks. Let's nerf guinsoo. Did it work? Vayne crit became stronger than the on hit version, also considering that there are few tanks in meta, she got a broken ad scaling on Q and she's perma invisible, thx to different buffs she's received. Master yi is still disgusting because he didn't even need guinsoo to start snowball, just red sword berserker and his ultimate. Now they nerfed conqueror and ppl saying "Noo now riven is even weaker after the nerf", too bad that she usually killed you so fast with her ultimate that her conqueror was fully stacked when you were already dead. I fail to realize why they're so focused on the wrong things, i mean: mr. Bob your weight is 250 lb and you risk a heart attack because of the high cholesterol, but instead of starting to train and eat better, why don't you buy lighter clothes? That way you can eliminate some excess weight. Just xd idk. My car can't walk because the wheels are squares, but instead of getting round wheels i try to lubricate them with some oil. Are we unable to identify the problem here?
Croffins (EUW)
: Riot got a minute?
I forgot to mention one important thing, the broken champions who offer little to none counterplay are also the favourite champions for the toxic players, because they learn the champ, than sht on you with all they've got, which they'll do, especially if your pick is weak or if they smurf to have fun on "low elo dogs" as they like to call everyone below their main account elo, and then they start insulting and tilting you. The game after not only you'll hate that champion, but you'll also be tilted due to their insults and taunts, you know, the classic mastery spam and "ty for tutorial" "u trash at this game", which could potentially lead you to flame the next guy who doesn't play to your liking, making the lack of balance in the game an addition the the already overflowing toxicity of the community. Just wanted to put this point in evidence, that's all for now <3.
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