: so 2+ premades are worse than 3 individually toxic solo players?...sure
yes when its a 3 or 4 men premade... its worse... but whatever floats your boat... or rubber duck...
Shiwah (EUW)
: I see a topic, I am allowed to reply.
you are, but after i told you i was done arguing with you and you still post a reply to my comment when im talking with someone else... anyway, this is the last answer you will get from me. i would post here the meme "dont talk to me or my son ever again" but... cba.
: can't be as bad as solo players
indeed it isnt as bad... because it is so much worse you cant even describe it as bad... it should be a worse word... horrible? terrible? something of the sort... because it isnt 1 solo player being toxic... its 2+ premade people being toxic... so there is that...
Shiwah (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dark Kimzark,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Tmbf5EuO,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-08-14T09:33:14.500+0000) > > it could indeed increase the queue times, but could also improve the quality of the queues... But not all players have 40+ minutes each day to spend waiting in queue. That's the very reason autofill was introduced. > not to mention (has i stated on my main post) this would be specially for "fun" game modes, where people (AKA premades who do this on purpose) tend to troll more often because of the attitude "its only a fun game so no one cares"... Source?
jesus christ are you stalking all my replies to everyone? i told you im done with you and your biased POV... you are like that clingy ex that just cant let go...
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: I don't think this will happen, it would increase Queue times.
it could indeed increase the queue times, but could also improve the quality of the queues... so there is that... and personally i would rather have less games, but more enjoyable... therefore why im suggesting this... not to mention (has i stated on my main post) this would be specially for "fun" game modes, where people (AKA premades who do this on purpose) tend to troll more often because of the attitude "its only a fun game so no one cares"...
: > [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Tmbf5EuO,comment-id=00000001000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-13T15:37:52.577+0000) > > On that I agree. But shooting the masses and hoping to get the right ones (while killing many innocents in the meantime) is not going to work well. > > Also because the right ones might not even be premades. True. My perception of the situation is skewed by the negative experiences I have had. I tried in the past suggesting catch-all solutions which hurt nobody to at least limit verbal abuse, auto-mute all for instance instead of having to type "/mute all" every game.
i mean... i even stated on my original post i wanted this specially for the so called "fun" modes, where people do parties to actually go full troll on games, because: "its a fun mode so f**k you, report me all you want i wont get banned over a fun game mode"... and yet people, specially the "defensive types", are taking this to the extreme of being something as bad as the holocaust... not to mention the /mute all option is there avaiable to everyone, and i doubt the majority the community is using it right now... so why cant we have a option to disable the queue with premades? only the people who REALLY dont want to be matched with those would pick that option... also riot could add some cons of using that feature like: "you cannot queue in a party" or "Honors received after the game will be halved"... IDK they could figure something out to prevent the abuse of the feature...
Shiwah (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dark Kimzark,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Tmbf5EuO,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-13T07:52:22.058+0000) > > _"What would premades do, if they're not 5 members? It would literally destroy what Riot is encouraging - playing with friends."_ - Then they would be matched with other people playing with friends. Incomplete premades _cannot_ play if everyone presses the button. You're shunning premade players. Two-men and three-men parties might be able to get paired together, _but 4-men premades will never be able to fill their ranks_. > _"Because premades wouldn't be able to get soloers on board, and hardly find any other premade of the same size before dying of old age in queue."_ - not true, FlexQ does just as good... just use a similar strategy... (AKA disable 4 men parties) So 4 people cannot play normals together? They have to take turns? > So has you have admitted right here... THERE IS a problem that made people to come to have this fear (it doesnt appear out of nowhere)... and since it cant be fixed, since there will always be trolls and toxic people, allow us to prevent being matched with potential people who will do those type of things. I've been flamed more by soloers than by premades. Can I have a button to disable matchmaking with soloers? I am not being negative, I am being realistic because people will always jump to abuse whatever element can give them an edge over others. And since players tend to blame premades for losing and flaming, the conclusion is very easy to draw. Overwatch proved this with the blacklist feature -- it was intended to isolate toxic people; it was abused to manipulate matchmaking. > _"It's called shunning."_ - It's called whatever people want... i could call it prevention (Prevent being matched with those type of people)... You just proved my point. Thank you.
1 and 2 - So riot can "shun" 4 men parties from flexQ, but they couldnt do it from normal AS AN OPTION FOR PLAYERS? god forbid them from doing something like that... how horrible... 3- do you have an extra account, or asked a friend to make the other comment? because its almost a copy of this one... anyway sarcasm aside now... im also being realistic about how often the premades gets all defensive once they start making mistakes... the blame always goes on the other people on how they suck and blablabla... Also no clue about overwatch, i havent played it (nor intend to do so), so i cant talk about a feature ive not tried and have no idea what it is about... 4- i hope i gave you some happiness today... even tho you are trying to find a meaning on my words, that isnt there... PS - im asking for a feature that would be optional... but you are so focused on the bad parts, that you are not even trying to discuss the feature (just being defensive at this point)... so to finalize... EVERYTHING in life has its pros and cons... if you can only see the cons of something im not taking this conversation any further, since there is no point. PS 2- im not the one downvoting your comments, so i guess that speaks for itself ...
: Then pls let me disable solo players. They are so toxic, think they are awesome and flame all the time
^_ thank you for giving me a example of what premades make me go through my games ...
Shiwah (EUW)
: What would premades do, if they're not 5 members? It would literally destroy what Riot is encouraging - playing with friends. Because premades wouldn't be able to get soloers on board, and hardly find any other premade of the same size before dying of old age in queue. There is a strong premade negative bias, even when a lot of premades have done nothing wrong, so naturally people would disable the ability of being matched with premades. Not because of toxicity, but because of the _fear_ of toxicity. It's called shunning.
_"What would premades do, if they're not 5 members? It would literally destroy what Riot is encouraging - playing with friends."_ - Then they would be matched with other people playing with friends. _"Because premades wouldn't be able to get soloers on board, and hardly find any other premade of the same size before dying of old age in queue."_ - not true, FlexQ does just as good... just use a similar strategy... (AKA disable 4 men parties) _"There is a strong premade negative bias, even when a lot of premades have done nothing wrong, so naturally people would disable the ability of being matched with premades. Not because of toxicity, but because of the fear of toxicity."_ - So has you have admitted right here... THERE IS a problem that made people to come to have this fear (it doesnt appear out of nowhere)... and since it cant be fixed, since there will always be trolls and toxic people, allow us to prevent being matched with potential people who will do those type of things. Not to mention you are being negative yourself and being biased that everyone would disable the possibility of matching with premades. Also there are ways to prevent "everyone" from doing this... whoever disables that option, is not allowed to make parties/be invited to parties, for example. _"It's called shunning."_ - It's called whatever people want... i could call it prevention (Prevent being matched with those type of people)...
Shiwah (EUW)
: Problem: everyone would do that, and nobody would be able to play with their friends, which is a big part of LoL's experience.
IF everyone would do that, dont you think there might be a problem there? (EDIT: refering to the reason WHY people would do it) Besides in fun modes, you are matched with people from every elo, so i dont see a problem to add that on fun modes... not to mention i find just as many people queueing in a party as i find soloing...
Rioter Comments
: Xayah and Rakan recall
The recall function from xayah and rakan works when one of them right-clicks on the one already recalling to join them... it doesnt work if you stack on your partner and press B... imagine the recalling one is a thresh lantern... you need to press it to travel too...
: > [{quoted}](name=Dark Kimzark,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=BhEYF3pE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-27T17:25:16.476+0000) > > i've started a break from LoL ... now im playing 2 other games to clean my head of this ... so thanks anyway bro ;) (yes i assumed your gender... triggered? :P) TRIGGERED
LUL :3 Objective completed! now lets proceed to baron ... xD
: Too bad, yeah. Wanna add me? Maybe we could play some games together :)
i've started a break from LoL ... now im playing 2 other games to clean my head of this ... so thanks anyway bro ;) (yes i assumed your gender... triggered? :P)
: I'm sorry for you. I completely understand you. But some people treat ARAM like it's LCS. They think it's 1 vs. 9 and all their enemies are Satan. Nothing you can change about that, at least not the coming 10 years. It's going to take decades and generations for people's mindsets to change one bit.
i think i will have turned to ashes once that happens ...
: > [{quoted}](name=Vekia,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=XRY1kBEc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-25T12:41:05.261+0000) > > Since when does Shyvana have a passive? I thought they removed it a while back. Fury of the Dragonborn INNATE: Shyvana deals 10% bonus damage (whether physical or magic) to Dragons and to Vilemaw. Shyvana gains 5 bonus armor and 5 bonus magic resistance, each permanently increased by 5 every time her team slays an Dragon elemental drake. It's nice but I feel like it's slightly underperforming. I think it was at 10 each and increased by 10 before and she was in a great spot then.
i believe he was joking but ... anyways ...
Magneset (EUW)
: I had a Yi 2 games ago who had a ping of 3400. I thought he was attempting to break the world record or something.
my ping record is around 50k MS ... the only thing moving on my screeen was the ping numbers ...
: Please explain this high-ping phenomena that plagues this game
me: starts a game with the normal 80ms (yes portugal ping sucks) - 3 minutes later ping goes 500ms+ me: MOM CLOSE THE EFFING YOUTUBE NOW! mom: but im just fast forwarding videos - dies on lane at level 2 me: ASRSVASDGSGSDGSRG#$%&%&#$$%$#%#%/%&#"%%$/#$&%$ *flips keyboard* Thats basically the story of my games ...
: Safest time to play LoL
i also came to a similar conclusion ... 2pm-6pm should be the safest times ... thats at least the conclusion i came to ... im not usually up earlly so i dont know about morning but ... after 6pm ... i dont know what happens, but the amount of trolls, flamers and other stuff is just ... insane ...
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Who was your first pentakill with?
Have yet to get a pentakill ... always quadras and someone else ... kill secures the last one ;_; feelsbadman EDIT: also i main support so x) there arent many chances for one ...
The Febos (EUW)
: I would NEVER trade away Shaco. *** That's why I don't play ARAM. I don't like the inconsistency and sometimes you are paired with human potatoes, which makes it even worse. I never play ARAM alone (only premades); I rather play Co-Op vs AI. You did the right thing though; mute, play and report. No need to start a flame war.
well im not that good of a shaco player so i thought of giving him to someone who can do better ... but ... after that game ... nope ... i'd rather reroll it...
Rioter Comments
: Welcome to the internets, m8.
been here for a while, and i still find it stupid ...
Wa5abi65 (EUW)
: Yeah, these things can happen at any time but I do definitely notice a difference in the behaviour of my teammates during the late afternoon/early evening. There have been some people on here that claim that age is not a factor in negative behaviour but I have never seen any convincing evidence that this is true. Warning signs for me are the excessive use of the words 'noob' or 'noob champ'; players who use these are usually gonna ruin your game. If you have any concerns in champ select, just dodge.
problem is... if i were to dodge every champ select i find like that... i would end up with a several hours penatlty from queues ... x.x and while i think dodging should be punished so games dont take 1h to start... i find these types of things annoying af, since we HAVE to dodge to dont have these types of games with "kids", and we end up being the ones punished... so its a lose-lose situation... either you get a dodge penalty OR you have to endure a 20+ minute game with trolls... i believe there should be a pop-up window to appear every time you dodge a champ select, and you must fill one of the options on WHY you dodged the game... like... - Champ Select harassment - unexpected situation had to make me leave - client bug etc etc ... players would have to chose one (and only one) option for the window to disappear and allow them to re-queue... even if they closed the client and re-opened it...
Wa5abi65 (EUW)
: They are just kids and lack the maturity to understand how to behave in the company of others. Playing between about 4pm and about 7pm seems to be the worst time for this behaviour; just after the kids get out of school.
after 7pm* just got a 4 men premade who had a tahm and kept eating me and throwing me into the enemy team since min 1 ... im so dam pissed ... reported the guy for inting and the whole team negative attitude (i think i went with int on them all, since none was trying to play the game) ... ffs %%%%%%ed kids trolling just because "its fun"... asdasdasdasdaand then riot doesnt want to have "toxic" and "flaming" players when we get these type of things!!!
: Dont worry about that, my boards score is high enough few thumbs down for no reason dont really matter to me.
well ... it just feels bad when people downvote the truth because it butthurts them :/
: >Buying item >Mechanics Not sure if you realize, but those are two different concepts.
dunno why you are being downvoted TBH ... mechanics its related with how well you play your character... game knowledge is about everything else... rotations, items, comps, counters, etc etc etc edit: let me upvote ya so it doesnt feel has bad
Vonyalo (EUW)
: Burn in hell guys
> [{quoted}](name=Vonyalo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AoQTYFJq,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-04-24T21:54:14.011+0000) > darius healed +9999 each time i guess he didnt had the Limit Break to go over 9999 ... tsc tsc tsc ... amateur ...
: Well, if you don't build it... you're asking for a whooping... so telling someone to build it is what you MUST DO... flaming them for deciding not to build it is DEAD WRONG... you can tell them they're wrong... you can't flame them though...
who said i flame them? usually i tell them to build it ASAP, if they dont, i start counting the minutes to surr at 20...
Doron (EUW)
: disconnects in client and mastery page selection problems
i just got "kicked" out of a game out of nowhere and cant relog for the past 5 minutes... the client has gone to an older version all on its own and now its downloading new stuff out of nowhere again... and after all of this... i still cant join the game again -.-'' and no its not my internet, since im posting this right in the middle of the problem -.-''
: Instead of Flaming someone for suggesting something to you, how about you honor them instead ?
Like the hint to build executioners calling vs a team with vlad or xin for example ...
: I'm not saying flaming is "good" it's not! But i can see the point he tried to make, that's all.
... he had a point indeed, he just didnt followed the rules of the OP ... he said 1 sentence, and the guy didnt wrote only one sentence ...
DHZ (EUW)
: Tahm Kench, the River KING
you aint no fun... you ruined the joke ...
DJ Buki (EUNE)
: ... a burning yordle! Saved ya a click
Vonyalo (EUW)
: Just played with riot employees in my team
I dont know if i should laugh or cringe ...
DHZ (EUW)
: King: Tahm Kench Queen: Elise Knight: Hecarim Rook: Turrets Bishop: Karthus Pawn: Minions
Why is the king Tahm? Because ... he can eat you up? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Kurotsu (EUW)
: If league of legends champions were chess pieces
Valuewise (the type of stuf the board pieces do) Queen - Lee Sin (extreme mobility all over the map) King - Darius (extremelly slow, but if he gets nearby its a killer) Horse - Irelia (how many time has she jumped with Q on a minion in one direction and then with Q again on you on the other side?) Bishop - Lux (your flanks are never safe with those ults out of the fog of war) Rook - GP (you are on the other side of the map? no worries my ult gets there, if not ill TP) Genderwise Queen - Ahri (always "charming") King - Jarvan (he is actually a king) Horse - Hecarim (any questions about this one? no? next please then) Bishop - Soraka (because she "heal" your soul) Rook - Heimerdinger (he actually sets up "turrets") alright im done with my puns :)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dark Kimzark,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Qjdv52K6,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-04-22T23:38:55.445+0000) > > if the ping spam only happened in plat + ........... lol, xD, go away!
???????????????????????????????? ... xD EDIT: did i tilt you just now too? :P
Yatuzor (EUW)
: New Teemo Skin Idea - Treemo
More teemo skins? isnt he like... the champ with most skins in the entire game already?
: Be carefull about what you say, else someone gets offended and calls you toxic {{champion:427}}
: Ability to remove pings completely in an option
if the ping spam only happened in plat + ...........
: Usually behaviour like this is cause by shitty internet. Ddosing and drophacking is not exactly easy to do as well as extremely obvious and easy to trace, meaning the chances of getting instantly banned are way higher than if u use other exploits like dodging scripts. Plus, riot's infrastructure has been upgraded to the point where ddosing is just way too much of a hassle.
What if you only lag to the point you disconnect whenever you get close to champ X? it has happenend me some times already... im all good around everyone else, but when it comes to a certain champ my ping goes extremelly high and the "attempt to reconnect" appears until everyone is dead and enemies are pushing to the base...
: He has a point though. Flaming takes your attention from your gameplay. You will make more mistake and mess up, which results in a lost.
he could have just said: "stop flaming" ... that would be a sentence... what he did was a redaction of "how to flame about flamers" also the part that i laughed is... if you are decently skilled you will drop a bit if you are tilted... just not all the way to bronze... if you do that... its an achievement in itself ...
: Why do so many players give up so easily?
Well if you are 5 - 30 with no turrets down, and the enemy is at your inib turrets already, i dont see a point in struggling any further with a lost game ... although its true sometimes people give up WAY too earlly, but you also must be conscious some games are just NOT meant to be won ... if the enemy twitch is 15 0 by min 20, you aint winning that one...
: I usually don't know what is best for what champion so I have to look it up
you can have up to 20 premade masteries ... so you can have at least 10 different champions ready to go (lets say 1 champion on your worst role, 2 champions on each of your average roles and 3 champions for your best role)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dark Kimzark,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=IQTwEp11,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-21T17:32:53.144+0000) > > how come do you take more than 30 seconds picking masteries? ... Probably because he has to read what thing does what. Not everyone knows all the masteries on the top of their heads.
its not like there isnt 20 pages one can pre-fill with masteries ... i used to have 20, until i memorized every single of them...
Coka1naa (EUNE)
: Tried tp bot, ulted the adc, took 2 assissts (50g each, that ahead was my team, like I used a tp and almost lost a tower for 100g :D). And no, I don't say my jungler was bad, I don't blame him anyhow, but no offense, but when you see one teammate is doing bad, and he knows it, and asks for help, you should at least say "hey, look, I can't help you cuz you're bad, hang on there, I'm helping other lanes", but Instead I get reported from every side. Leaving this aside, I am doing very good on kayle in early, I abuse my poke however I can, and only last hit minions, so I won't push THAT fast. I reject the enemy ganks as much as I can, but at some point I just can't stand that 5th gank on me, it's just annoying, they just gotta gank untill they will take a kill, and my jungler even when the jungle is warded, and sees the enemy jungler going top, won't counter gank, nothing. Again, this happens only when I play kayle, It's like I'm cursed, everybody hates kayle or what? I try roaming every time, but it doesn't work for me. Any other strategy that I should try? Thanks
its not like people hate kayle but, she doesnt offer much earlly game to play with ... autos are still slow, has no hard cc to start fights, and its quite squishy to engage on a 1x1... so its not a place your jungler might wanna visit much, and on the other hand, the enemy jungler will want to abuse it... im preety sure if you played, lets say poppy or nautilus, they wouldnt dive you that often ... even tho she is amazing mid/late game... its a pain in the ass to get there safelly... also if you know the enemy jungler is coming, and you will be in a 1x2, you should play even farther away from turret... let them have it if needed (depends on timer, items, levels, etc) if no one comes to help you... its better to give a turret, than a turret + kill + assist ...
: My problem since auto lock-in was removed
how come do you take more than 30 seconds picking masteries? ...
Coka1naa (EUNE)
: I am having a bad time playing top lane
have you tried to roam, or TP somewhere to try to get some assists/kills/turrets? or sat at your turret/lane for all game long complaining about the jungler in your mind? because when you get that behind, being on lane trying to catch up, will only make you a static target from the enemy "fed" laner and the enemy jungler ... so, if you push your lane (kayle is awsome at that) and then roam mid, TP bot or just join your jungler invading the enemy jungle, might actually help you getting back to the game... even if you are still behind, at least you are being usefull to the team somehow ...
: Hello! Can I talk to you about buying Exec? Mere 800 gold!
what i love the most is this type of thing... Player 1: OMG OMG OMG Champ X has way too many heals ... gg rito ... Me: What if (insert here a physical attack champ) builded executioners calling? It would make the fight so much easier... Team: STFU noob Me: ... "looks at timer and starts counting the time to surr at 20" now you may question: why dont YOU buy it? easy answer... i will buy it, if im playing a champ that can auto attack (except when playing support)
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