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Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: You need to be gold+ in 2 ranked queues Meaning you need to be gold+ in Ranked Solo/Duo and Flex 5v5 for example
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Ld4bXU1s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-12T18:33:28.227+0000) > > You need to be gold+ in 2 ranked queues > Meaning you need to be gold+ in Ranked Solo/Duo and Flex 5v5 for example OOH welp rip chromas
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: You know why. If Azir is buffed to be 50% win rate in yolo-Q, it becomes 100% pick-ban in pro play. And can also be highly annoying to play against if you are short range.
> [{quoted}](name=VIT Laati,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PMFPuVqc,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T10:32:51.494+0000) > > You know why. If Azir is buffed to be 50% win rate in yolo-Q, it becomes 100% pick-ban in pro play. > > And can also be highly annoying to play against if you are short range. I wasn't saying he should be buffed to 50 percent wr in soloq but he is kinda struggling in this meta where you have to be skirmish ready
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: No.
> [{quoted}](name=VIT Laati,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PMFPuVqc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-30T02:10:11.202+0000) > > No. oof
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: Well, for starters he doesn't have any resistances - his tankiness comes from his hp alone, so with any penetration he's taking almost true damage. And his healing can be cut by a variety of items - thornmail, executioner's blade, a lot of champ effects too. His late game damage can be interrupted by stuns and arguably roots and good positioning too, after his first e his damage output will be limited for a while, and if you're standing behind a frontline and manage to blow him up then you're golden, just be sure to have stuns for days and not let the rest of his team roll over you afterwards. As much as he's a hyper carry late you can have your own hyper carries late as well. But hey, I get it's not easy to coordinate or think about all this in the heat of the game, can happen to anyone.
> [{quoted}](name=RewardWanted,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=UOPsrkk7,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-28T22:26:35.371+0000) > > Well, for starters he doesn't have any resistances - his tankiness comes from his hp alone, so with any penetration he's taking almost true damage. And his healing can be cut by a variety of items - thornmail, executioner's blade, a lot of champ effects too. His late game damage can be interrupted by stuns and arguably roots and good positioning too, after his first e his damage output will be limited for a while, and if you're standing behind a frontline and manage to blow him up then you're golden, just be sure to have stuns for days and not let the rest of his team roll over you afterwards. As much as he's a hyper carry late you can have your own hyper carries late as well. > > But hey, I get it's not easy to coordinate or think about all this in the heat of the game, can happen to anyone. this is exactly why he is op this is uncoordinated play we're talking about and in low elo no one ever would think about that sort of stuff. It's like Karthus you can argue that he has counter play but you need specific champs and your team needs to know what they are doing which let's be honest will not be the case for 97 percent of all players, thus he is low key op with his I sit in jungle and press R to impact every single lane playstyle
: Stop with this "pro play" for %%%% sake. I don't even watch LCS or anything. I bet 70% of the LoL community plays the game for the game being itself. We are not pro play, or are you? Mr professional LoL player. Give me another reason to not laugh.
> [{quoted}](name=TheVikingGeorge,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fAEtUeBT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:28:36.608+0000) > > Stop with this "pro play" for %%%% sake. I don't even watch LCS or anything. I bet 70% of the LoL community plays the game for the game being itself. We are not pro play, or are you? Mr professional LoL player. Give me another reason to not laugh. Sadly it's the only reason why Azir is not getting any sort of attention since Riot LOVES to balance the game around pro play and if Azir is strong in soloq he is OP in pro play or even worse absolutely broken
: Shhhh, he used to be my pocket pick, I need to try him out again sometime soon.
really but why, why have they not nerfed him so far he is abused in pro play and soloq and just honestly could use a rework...
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: > I built this because it was recommended to me by proguides since they said IG's top laner builds this on jayce so it's not outdated since it's been recently built on him however I have no clue what else to build on this champ. TheShy did that build vs Vladimir, hence why he rushed grevious wounds (a stat that was useless for you this game) and because the match up didn’t require as much of a spike early but better 1v1 scaling due to how vlad works. He also wanted more mana due to vlad being a manaless champion. This build is not applicable in any other match up. Vs sion (speaking as a sion main) you need to spike harder early... jayce is very feed or famine vs tanks, he can’t really bully or fight them later on so you need to hit hard and fast. Typically when you are winning lethality works well and would have been the best best here as the sion didn’t get armour until 9 mins into the game, you could punish him immensely for this aggressive playstyle, you building tear and merc treads (not good vs sion he’s mostly physical damage and uses knock ups so tenacity doesn’t work vs him). Later on you want BC, you where building it but prob a second item rather than last. This will help keep you competitive. Pretty sure Bork is another option but unsure on that one. So you want to spike early vs tanks and get damage in before they get armour... this sion build weirdly and you could have punished hard... also in solo Q vs tanks maybe take a more aggressive rune choice and ignite to help, if jayce hasn’t won lane by 7-10mins vs a tank he’s lost. > this was also my second game of jayce ever and I've already had to listen to some real smartasses on the enemy team that "I just suck" so yeah I get it it's pretty tilting and really hurting my ego. Jayce is a very tricky champion and one that a lot can go wrong with, as you’ve found out. Just gotta keep learning. Good tip is to be more fluid, you went with the wrong build by looking at a pro playing vs vlad not sion. Just practice and learn from your mistakes. > Anyway since you seem to be knowing a lot about jayce what would have been the right build and the right things to do in lane? I’m actually not that knowledgeable playing as jayce, but having been a top lane main for about 7 years now I’ve got a lot of experience with the match ups in that lane. So a lot of what I’ve said comes from my experience against jayce... I’m also a sion main so this particular match up I know a lot about. As for playing as like I’ve said he must win lane, so your going to want to be oppressive and get an early lead immediately. As for how you do that I’ll leave that to an actual jayce player. In this match up though don’t disrespect sion, his Q charge is a massive threat don’t let him full charge you, he will kill off that. Keep at a distance while his Q is up and go melee if he wastes it, punish him trying to farm, don’t auto push (he can farm under tower well and sets you up for ganks), and force him to use his shield (it costs a lot of mana). Purchase early % armour pen and/or % max health damage so that he can’t just bulk out and ignore you.
what about my starting items? should I go corrupting pot and time warp?
: Early game jayce can outdamage a sion easily, so long as you don’t misplay, though with electrocute and ignite he’s gonna have more damage than usual... later on though while jayce deals more damage he struggles vs tanks so unless you get a lead you won’t be a threat. Also sion built damage that game, having both a black cleaver and frozen mallet... so typically would be easier to kill but can actually kill you. And you didn’t buy any anti tank relying on lethality, you also went for the muramana build which is very outdated and not used anymore. Your also 2/13 on a feast or famine champion. So not to do with sion, more the match up.... though you played said match up badly As for tanks in general... early game nobody has damage items, so every champion works off their base damages... so it’s s more per champion basis (sion is meant as a lane bully so has good base damages). Mid to late game their damage doesn’t grow so falls off heavily, but in 1v1s they can outlast opponents letting them win fights Ultimately a tank should have the capacity to fight and win in lane, if they didn’t they’d automatically loose every lane and would die even more so than currently
: Because Riot has pumped too much power creep into the game in an effort to create a flashy spectator e-sport. There is so much damage and anti-mitigation (Armour Shred, Magic/Armour Pen, Lethality, True Damage) in the game that Tanks can't tank anymore....
: If a tank doesn't do any damage it can pretty much be ignored. Consider this, if that Sion did no damage to you, would you pay any attention to it in lane? Probably not. You would just sit back and farm knowing he can't kill you.
yeah but the opposite of that ain't that fun either. Also he would still provide the most important thing in this game and that is AOE CC so already he should deal less damage as he can disrupt you for at least 5 seconds in a teamfight
: Early game jayce can outdamage a sion easily, so long as you don’t misplay, though with electrocute and ignite he’s gonna have more damage than usual... later on though while jayce deals more damage he struggles vs tanks so unless you get a lead you won’t be a threat. Also sion built damage that game, having both a black cleaver and frozen mallet... so typically would be easier to kill but can actually kill you. And you didn’t buy any anti tank relying on lethality, you also went for the muramana build which is very outdated and not used anymore. Your also 2/13 on a feast or famine champion. So not to do with sion, more the match up.... though you played said match up badly As for tanks in general... early game nobody has damage items, so every champion works off their base damages... so it’s s more per champion basis (sion is meant as a lane bully so has good base damages). Mid to late game their damage doesn’t grow so falls off heavily, but in 1v1s they can outlast opponents letting them win fights Ultimately a tank should have the capacity to fight and win in lane, if they didn’t they’d automatically loose every lane and would die even more so than currently
I built this because it was recommended to me by proguides since they said IG's top laner builds this on jayce so it's not outdated since it's been recently built on him however I have no clue what else to build on this champ. this was also my second game of jayce ever and I've already had to listen to some real smartasses on the enemy team that "I just suck" so yeah I get it it's pretty tilting and really hurting my ego. Anyway since you seem to be knowing a lot about jayce what would have been the right build and the right things to do in lane?
: Unfortunatly not. However even if it could, you would be better off with {{item:3140}} anyway. Way shorter cooldown and guarantee to fight {{champion:82}} on your terms almost everytime.
that is a feelsbadman. Cleanse getting worse with each champ lul
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LiAuN (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DeejayF,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=hQuO1Tv9,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-17T13:50:34.704+0000) > > but you said in about 10 hours they'll become available. that was not me however after checking it's te prerequisite for the game to register you for the 10th year anniversary
ok well I get the rewards now and that's all that matters c:
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LiAuN (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DeejayF,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=hQuO1Tv9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-17T12:30:33.059+0000) > > even when it's not active yet? it should be active as it was supposed to be 2 am BST aka british summer time
but you said in about 10 hours they'll become available.
Infernape (EUW)
: In about 10 hours they'll become available. All you have to do is play a matchmade game. This includes bot games.
even when it's not active yet?
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Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DeejayF,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=GQVBTgib,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-16T17:51:24.203+0000) > > So I saw somebody playing Kayle and he tower dove the enemy and got a kill afterwards he pressed ult but he wasn't hovering over his champ to do so. Is there a way to change that in the settings? It's called "self-cast". The default shortcut is ALT+Q/W/E/R. Yes, you can change that in the settings while in-game.
thank you very much I never knew this was possible. Now when I play these types of champs it won't feel nearly as clunky anymore.
GLurch (EUW)
: Yes, you can use "self cast", which is set on "alt" on default and then just press the button of whatever ability you want to cast on yourself (this works for *any* ability that you can cast on yourself, so you can quickly heal, shield, ult yourself and all that). You can also change the key binding for this to any other you want in the options, as shown in the picture below ^_^ https://i.imgur.com/xKY32Kn.png
thank you very much I never knew this was possible. Now when I play these types of champs it won't feel nearly as clunky anymore.
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: Because {{champion:238}} deals so much f@@king damage out of nowhere it does not even need an autoattack reset to explode someone. And Q, W, E and passive are everything it needs to be a great farmer already. Absolutely no need for {{item:3077}} when it comes to farming. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: > [{quoted}](name=DeejayF,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=42083Tsa,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-12T16:38:58.711+0000) > > and why does Talon and Qiyana build it then it it's not worth it? I don't know about {{champion:246}} but if you read {{champion:91}}'s passive it will become immediatly clear why an additional autoattack reset is so good on it (it was good even pre-rework, to proc mercy with more auto as possible while silence/slow from E and slow from W were on).
AA don't stack Talon's passive and you get an AA reset after you q so technically speaking it's not needed as someone else pointed out it's because Talon is a hard roaming champ that wants to push as fast as possible.
Timarius (EUW)
: coz the item you close with the tiamat is not worth the cost, and you finish the game with an half item, long ago people were usually buil botrk for the R proc, coz the ignite + botrk was calculated in the damage done during R, but now you do not build in enymore coz is nos cost efficent, with the new lethality system you go for as many longsowrd as you can, and with zed damage you do not really need tiamat to clear minions
and why does Talon and Qiyana build it then it it's not worth it?
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: Actually it’s the other way around... given how much these items handicap healing champions with no counter play there is apsolutly no reason why an ad champion can get GW for 800g on their first back. GW has created a severely toxic cycle with healing champions, one way to make it less toxic is to remove executioners calling and bramble vest... if you want to hard counter a champion you gotta commit to it not spend 800g
okay that sounds fair and reasonable. Thank you for the enlightening response man.
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: She isn’t... not to say she is too strong or too weak, but she is a balance issue. She’s full point and click, no outplay potential, lives and dies on snowball and which items enemies get too much, and due to her hybrid nature she has the the strengths of both fighters and assasins but none of the tools to actually use these strengths properly making her an issue. This is why she is in line for a full VGU in the future, like nocturn her kit causes a lot of issues for both herself and her enemies making balance impossible
thank goodness I hate this champ as she currently stands it's a callback to old league and everytime I see her it's just unfun I hope her VGU will not be as abyssmal as Akali's since that'd be just as bad. But thanks for the reply I couldn't wrap my head around why I disliked her so much but now I know
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: > [{quoted}](name=ScrubNoob001,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=6Ee5Lf0z,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-17T23:16:34.947+0000) > > rito only cares about flamers…. but if ranked theres no inters, griefers, afks theres not going to be flamers. riot shoudl think in a time out this players out of ranked, no need ban accs juts time out, after several reports or 2 games where teh 2 teams reprot him, to be suspend of ranked for 20 games in normal draft. they do care about Feeder, f.e. i reported a 0/19 Garen for feeding, ~1h later i got a message that a report i sent in lead into a Suspension... i guess if you feed twice and are reported you`ll get a temp restriction, so at least they care about feeding. i think, many People missunterstand "feed" and a champ being fed
again it's not always going to happen I've heard that in dozens of instances that people get away with it which is really awful as it stops being competitive anymore.
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: Because of his high AP scaling, and like 80% of the runes don't do anything, besides give damage. Here's an [old post](https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/h0YHwYKj-does-anyone-just-find-runes-unsatisfying) which touched the topic.
I know that he has high AP ratios which is why they should nerf them and give him a bit more base damage as compensation or something
Typhl0 (EUW)
: the problem is that riot is giving insanly high ap ratio for tank so champ like malph can be played with armor/mr build and still be flexible with {{item:3001}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3157}}
this is literally my issue with Malph and Cho they are tanks not damage dealers. reduce their ratios
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Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: If you are main the tell me... What's her best role? I am considering getting Neeko myself but people play her everywhere~ have seen her at any lane from top to bottom 🤔
I recommend her either in the top lane as a lane bully with the on hit build or even AP or you take Glacial Augment in the mid lane for the ease of hitting your root into q for devastating damage
: well u play talon dont complain about other champs when ur champ is able to one shot at lv 2
Actually I one trick Azir atm so yeah.
: > [{quoted}](name=DeejayF,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=wnWgBAQj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-16T13:50:40.032+0000) > > I don't know about you but I think there should not be a cc skill shot that gets stronger when thrown into minions it should work like lux binding then she would not be such a problem at all points at missfortune double up.
what was that ability?
: I'm a neeko main so i kinda feel bad for you, but she's honestly not as broken as you think. Her ult got nerfed several times I believe, so though it still does a decent amount of damage I think her shield isn't as useful as it was when she came out. And imo as some people have already mentioned if you use common sense against her your chances of winning increase massively because you can just avoid her E and be careful, and without her w or flash there's no real way for her to escape your all-ins and on top of that she is very squishy, so it's actually pretty easy to kill her if you think about it
I can not recall that they ever nerfed her ult at al Edit: they have "nerfed" it once and that was a 0.15 seconds of charge time increase from 0.60 so yeah it's safe to say that this piece if garbage ability is still the same
JustClone (EUNE)
: So from what I have read, I got your main problem. You cannot dodge her root. thus getting hit by multiple Q... And not recognizing the empowered version from the normal one. Now instead of trying to think random logic by saying stuff like: > Not staying in minion wave or staying in it doesn't matter since ... (Bla bla bla... Irrelevant what follows that "since") Can you just follow my advice and do not position yourself in a manner, that friendly minions will be in between? THE ROOT GETS EMPOWERED. 1. it is faster, larger. It means it is becoming extremely difficult to dodge it. 2. It gets increased duration. MORE THAN DOUBLE AT EARLY LEVELS. You are getting held down for 2 and a half times longer, at level 1. Can you realize what follows from this? she can Make you get slapped by 3 Q , slap you in the face, and walk back. As I said, this kit has basic IQ check. IF you fail it... You are going to have bad time against her. And if you think that I will read and comment more stuff about how she deals the same damage against someone with {{item:3155}} {{item:3111}} and without... You are mistaken. It is insult to my intelligence. You can either listen to what I say, try to apply it... Or stay here and complain about non-existing problems. Your call.
ok sorry for insulting your intelligence even though I saw it with my own 2 eyes. Anyway if you say that it helps by playing it like a xerath sure I'll do that. but if you honestly believe Glacial Augment with neeko is balanced I don't know anymore. It's like an Ezreal with Iceborn Gauntlet it is factually undodgable
JustClone (EUNE)
: Base what damage? You need to be more specific, son. Anyway, to the stuff I do get. This champion is like shaco, or like Le'Blank. In her kit you have something like BASIC IQ CHECK for the opponent. If the opponent know what is happening, it is easy. Otherwise he will have a hard time. If someone is stupid enough to dive that 20 hp soraka, that suddenly grows a tail, heals to 100%, stuns you, roots you and wipes you out with 3-blast Q... Well, is the champion or it is the stupidity of that player? If I got a $ every time someone FLASH > ULT > IGNITED my clone... I would be able to purchase 3 meter high shaco statue. The moment you start playing with competent players, that is not the case anymore. Very basic stuff, for lowest elos: 1) do not stay behind minions, when you play against neeko or MF. 2) If she is "pretending" to be someone, she may be getting ready to all-in. 3) Do not dive 10 hp targets, that do not use their skills and that have very low basic attack damage, while being somewhat very confident and not keeping distance from you. 4) Do not try to all in-her when her ult is up. Try to bait it. Or she gets shield, you get rooted, stunned, and she wipes the floor with you, while trying to retreat with shame...(in case you even survived.) And yes, Mercs to counter her CC, and Hexdrinker to counter her burst is the smart way to go. Keep it like that, son.
Okay so base ability damage. Specific enough yet? One combo of her will put you to half health at lvl 2 or 3 which is like Talon level of burst. Not staying in minion wave or staying in it doesn't matter since if you get hit by root it means bye bye half of your health anyway and the way to counter the difficulty of landing skill shots you go GLACIAL AUGMENT and get FREE ROOTS. As I said before MR didn't even matter I bought both these items and she still chucked for the SAME AMOUNT which was like "what?" I was never talking about the clone thing at all which is blatantly obvious not to do when you not know which one it is same goes for the 10 hp bait. I was never talking about that I was talking about the other ridiculous mechanics in her kit coupled with her damaged which is my issue with this champ. And in the top lane Neeko is even worse of a champ. Super unfun to play and if you don't have like 10 gap closers like riven and Akali then you're screwed as a top laner. Even if you're on top of her she gets a MASSIVE shield with her ult which makes no sense what so ever if she can not be interrupted anyway and use Zhonya's with it. Her ult CD is also 80 seconds on rank 1 which is hilariously low for such a massive ult like hers. Compared to an Azir or any mage ult really, she has a 20 second advantage every time to burst you down which is not difficult at all with a rune I mentioned so often already that basically gives her a 40 percent slow on her autos.
: I dont like her aswell
I don't know about you but I think there should not be a cc skill shot that gets stronger when thrown into minions it should work like lux binding then she would not be such a problem at all
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Zanador (EUNE)
: Riven has quite a lot of options on runes too. Conqueror is the best for her now usually, simply because of how fast she can stack it with animation cancelling, but before Conqueror became what it is now, Riven players regularly had a large variety of rune builds. If you are concerned about survival early on, then both Aftershock and Undying can work well. The former is a bit stronger still, and both gives you full access to the resolve tree with shield bash +bone plating+ revitalize should make you a lot sturdier early on. The main question you should ask is how you are planning to beat your opponent. And items like the long sword and {{item:3133}} scale better if your animation cancelling is strong. The long sword technically gives you defense too with your E, but if you match up allows you to be a bit defensive early on, then do so. Riven's scaling is massive into the mid game, so just farming well early on is still acceptable, even if you want to get early kills to carry.
okay thanks for the information but what is undying? there's no such rune in the game
Zanador (EUNE)
: As swampert said, you'll have to start in the practice tool and learn how to do animation cancelling. That's basically the entry level for Riven. Without cancelling at least one or two animations in a fight, you will often lose duels you were meant to win. And the items are where the tricky part comes. Basically anything that gives AD+CDR is awesome and most items which gives at least one of those (and no AP obviously) is still very good. This means that in any match Riven would want to buy at least 9-10 items + boots. Picking the right ones in the right order will decide the result a lot of time. If you look up the match histories of Adrian and BoxBox mentioned by TheToyTracker you'll see that they switch their item builds and even keystone runes and summoner spells quite often. So don't follow a fix build but rather take your time to learn the match ups and their requirements.
I can do them to some extend my issue is that I don't know what first items to take or what runes to take. For example I saw a lot of people go inspiration secondary with CD and boots and build longs sword first item into {{item:3133}} and then {{item:3071}} but since I get my ass kicked a lot of the time I don't get much use out of the runes. Wouldn't it be better to go resolve secondary and maybe Dshield for a noob on Riven such as myself? While it's cool and all to have {{item:3133}} I don't have any health or defensive stats which backfires for me
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