The Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Diabolic Hikki,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yRTQl3EI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-05-26T22:54:21.802+0000) > > I do. it's called "predicting their pick through their ban". But I understand if you have no strategy in mind when it comes to banning. Mate, if not even Korean Challengers do that, why would you be different? We are still talking about Solo/Flex. Just look at Faker's streams. No one there bans "strategically". They might ban one or two champions they know would counter the champion your teammate wants to play, or even target ban someone if they know they are in the enemy team, but they don't "strategically" ban consistently. Now, go back a few tiers all the way down to Diamond and the pattern is the same. Are you telling me that you are above all that? > Oh, and I'm not waiting for an intelligent response after that ill attempt at ridicule. I know your deal already. So you are unable to provide me with 1 good example? Watch me "place the last nail in the coffin". Say, if you don't ban the X popular champion in Y meta and instead you "ban strategically", can you guess what will happen? ######Hint: That X popular champion will be picked. Okay, say you are in a premade of 3, flex queue. All 3 of you "ban strategically" AND the first pick is one of you. The enemy teams gets to pick at least 2 of those X popular champions. Are you sure your "strategic ban" works out in the end with your other 2 teammates? That's just it. You are missing the crucial part of all this. This is SOLO/FLEX queue; not competitive. No one gives jack shit about "strategic ban" in that environment. ######Still waiting for that 1 good example.
Like I said. It's about predicting their pick, as in "this person bans blitz, they may hate hooks, as in they may hate other hook champions". So their bot may be pretty immobile. Maybe I will pick another champ that can hook. And there I go ban a champion I do not want against that champion. Or, if someone bans mobile ADC's, I may be interested in banning a hard engage like a Leona, or another hook champion. Maybe a pick oriented champion from another lane. Literally, the same thing that goes through pick phase. But ban phase is only presumptions and predicting. It's not the biggest thing in the world, true. "Say, if you don't ban the X popular champion in Y meta" Talk about an example. If you can counter pick that champion, why ban? Because they may ban that 1 counter? Oh jeez. Does that mean that you can also predict that they are attempting to pick said champion and you can counter ban them? There is your example.
The Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Diabolic Hikki,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yRTQl3EI,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-26T22:20:38.683+0000) > > Do not remove the strategy that goes into the ban phase. AHAHAHAH Are we talking about the same thing? Dude, this isn't competitive play. You don't "counter-ban" anyone. There's no strategy involved in Solo/Flex. > Rather, make it so that there is still a possibility to build strategy with the bans. WHAT STRATEGY? There's no strategy. Every game you ban the exact same champions, from a pool of 5..15. No one target bans champions. *** What everyone wants is to be able to ban the champion they hate most. That's literally what everyone has been saying since the new champion pick came along. No one cares about "ban strategy", since it's isn't a thing in Solo/Flex. Give me 1 good example when you want to ban "strategically".
" You don't 'counter-ban' anyone" I do. it's called "predicting their pick through their ban". But I understand if you have no strategy in mind when it comes to banning. Since "you ban the exact same champions, from a pool of 5..15". And sure! Some players just ban things because they are op at the moment. Or they are sick of seeing new champs in their ranked games. Or they hate *name your generic cancer champ here*. Also, it's useful to know as the last pick in ban phase if your preferred champion was banned, so you can actually ban something that actually matters to your other choices. Ban phase is also a counterweight to pick phase, where first picks start defining the comp and the last bans are the definitive last attempts at controlling both. Or, you know, you can just ban *name the exact same champ you ban every time here*. Oh, and I'm not waiting for an intelligent response after that ill attempt at ridicule. I know your deal already. If you wish to believe that there is 0 strategy when it comes to bans, then live in your beliefs and ignore this "wrong minded" thread.
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Zeromatsu (EUW)
: what's the point in duplicate bans btw? I thought we get 10 bans because there is not enough bans for the amount of champs... So if there can be duplicate bans you might ban even less champs than now if unlucky?
I mean, only way you can have less bans than now with this system would mean that every champion ban was a duplicate one, meaning that both teams ban the exact same 5 champions. If even 1 is off, it immediately goes up to 7 bans. 5 bans is the least likely scenario. The biggest reason why Riot wanted the 10 ban system was to give every player a chance to ban a champion they don't want to play against.
: The Casual 10 Ban System
Now I know that 1st picks are also vulnerable because of counter picks. But this also becomes obsolete when you are in a premade or in higher ranks where the 1st pick can communicate their preferred bans and make the 1st pick even more advantageous.
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: Shop still doesn't work
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Okuma (EUNE)
: I would love a new master level. The requirments would be the same as lvl 6 and 7 I assume, but with 4 lvl 8 tokens.
One year ago. I think it's an ok amount of time.
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Noodz (EUW)
: RIOT CHAT SERVICE IS DOWN PLS FIX
How can they have the SAME problem over and over again?! This is insane!
: CHAT PROBLEM SOLVED!!
You can invite your friends into games with this? Other than custom. -.-
: > [{quoted}](name=JesusWeed4Ever,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=lLXrUfAt,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-16T23:55:03.758+0000) > > Hey so, many people had the "Logging onto chat service..." in EUW, including me{{summoner:3}} and I came up with a solution! > > 1. Change the local hour +1 > 2. Login onto the client > 3. Leave client. > 4. Change hour back. > 5. BAM! There you go thank me later :) > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Try this, this literally just helped me
HOW do you do this? I changed my computer's time. Won't work still? Well?
: Change the local hour +1 Login onto the client Leave client. Change hour back. BAM! There you go thank me later :) This worked for me after the 3rd attempt... not my fix - link to board - http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support-en/ng7045ML-chat-is-not-working
Show it step by step or didn't happen. Won't work for me.
: > [{quoted}](name=CoonCatLady,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=27L1PQtV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-17T09:35:05.786+0000) > > Everybody has this problem!! > No one can type in champ select!!!! > Fix this pls cause just like always the same probs everybody wants mid and top and now they just take it and they take it all so all the time in games we have 3/4 mid or top!!! it works now
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