: This is true and it would be nice... but for now we know the actual ratios so we can come up with builds... would be nice for a bonus AD gained counter. It might be because the ratio in % is not a nice number, it’s like 7.145% of your bonus health which is not pretty
It could be a reallly awkward number yeah, but I would Riot would think about not using crazy numbers if avoidable.
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: to be honest I wouldn't mind changes to those items, I play Soraka a lot but I feel like the only change I make when I'm building with her is which % heal increase item i build first, do I need 20% heals or the cleanse from Mikeal's the aoe heal from redemption or to buff my ADC with attack speed and on hit. Pretty boring if you ask me. Atleast with Ali I can build items accordingly to what's happening in the game - also lategame Ali I'm either peeling or engaging, i always engage with WQ then E and my team does the rest, I think debating which is best depends on the scenario, there are definitely scenarios janna is better though, mainly peeling bruisers like Darius
> Pretty boring if you ask me. Atleast with Ali I can build items accordingly to what's happening in the game - also lategame Ali I'm either peeling or engaging, i always engage with WQ then E and my team does the rest, I think debating which is best depends on the scenario, there are definitely scenarios janna is better though, mainly peeling bruisers like Darius Yeah but alistar doesnt have the same peel potential as janna. with that new item ( as id put the effective range on it low) it gives him the abilty to actually sit back and peel as you can actuall buff your ad in a way rather then play ali as a suicide tank
: Wait you’ve got something wrong... thresh doesn’t counter Janna it’s the other way around. Enchanters counter engage supports... they are designed to prevent engages, especially Janna... any support who relies on engage should struggle vs the champion designed to stop engages. So immediately the context is incorrect, your wanting engage supports to be able to brute force past what should be their counters which really isn’t a good idea. So Janna shouldn’t fear an engage support... she is literally designed to beat them.
i understand where youre coming from. However previous seasons showed champs lie thresh, blitz and alistar having positive win rates against those champs and the engage support play style is supposed to dominate the lane phase. Theyre almost like Darius in way. Their strength comes from the ability to all in and cause extreme lane pressure and deny the opposing lane cs and exp. These champions presence and their threat of engage should scare a soraka but instead she just uses q every 3 seconds pokes down the other supports. enchanthers play a poke/ap support play style in lane. then go heal bot late game. according to Champion.gg at the current time of typing. Janna only has 2 win rates lower than 50%. that being ADCs that synergize poorly with being the new champ Kai'Sa and arguably the worst ADC in solo que Kalitsa. this would show the effectively **nothing** counters her. So my suggestion in the post was to try and create a counter for those champions. I chose engage supports because I dont want a support meta where its just tank supports (and by that i mean top laners {{champion:98}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:14}}) or just mages {{champion:63}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:90}}. Because me personally, i would rahter leanrn DOTA 2 then lane against malzahar support everygame[](https://imgur.com/a/O6oZz)
: to be honest I wouldn't mind changes to those items, I play Soraka a lot but I feel like the only change I make when I'm building with her is which % heal increase item i build first, do I need 20% heals or the cleanse from Mikeal's the aoe heal from redemption or to buff my ADC with attack speed and on hit. Pretty boring if you ask me. Atleast with Ali I can build items accordingly to what's happening in the game - also lategame Ali I'm either peeling or engaging, i always engage with WQ then E and my team does the rest, I think debating which is best depends on the scenario, there are definitely scenarios janna is better though, mainly peeling bruisers like Darius
It would be nice to see viability in all supports champ at the same time. Expect brand. %%%% that champ XD
: Enchanter Supports don't have the same game-changing impact as engage-supports. Taking their weakness of laning will make enchanters obsolete.
they have more impact late game. Janna R heals 600 + 150ap, she also can gain an extra 40% on that heal plus revitalise for up to 10% and giving her whole team ardent. Not to mention the bonus healing from items and runes applies per stack making it 100+150p plus 50% every half second. But whereas thresh can basically hook their tank and do nothing because he cant get past the front line. Alistar getted kited late game. As well the enchancters early is stronger then engages apart from maybe blitz, thats if he lands the grab, if not. he dies
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: There was a nerf in the past on PBE that was scrapped that Riot wanted to do, but decided against it because enchanters at that moment were on the weak side. The nerf was to{{item:3114}} items heal and shield increase.
that would be ok for lane. But its also their late game. just played a game where janna healed her AD through a turret and a riven. thats more the issue that i have
Šhαco (EUW)
: I love it. You should work for riot anyway I really like the idea, it's similar to the old zeke that gave crit, take my upvote bud
TheLynxMan (EUNE)
: The first rework, zeke harbinger was quite okay. But convergence is utter garbage.
oh yeah, ive only ever build it on leona if go like 5/0 in lane cause shes so sticky. but other that it is really quite shit
: hey thresh needs a fcking up make him able to be as strong as alistar or rakan
they should just legit just give him some innate tankiness so he doesnt get one shot by an lulu with an ancient coin
: Because when you mention "counters" with champ picks that only really means a lot in lane, when enchanters don't have any items yet. So taking the heal and CDR boost from those items out what are you left with. They're still broken
im only speculating an idea here. I was hoping for items which can compare late game other then just health stacked locket which is better on junglers anyway. The lane pressure can be solved with small early game buffs or nerfs. like when janna E was nerfed at early levels before. it hurt her a little bit but then they gave her movement speed scaling autos and w and then with aery she went back to being insane again
: Tbh I think Ali is always viable, I played him in the middle of last ardent meta and he got me to p2 with 70% winrate (granted that dropped because it was a bit above my skill level at that point) I think the main issue enchanters rise back up to popularity is mainly due to {{item:3301}} - This item basically gives you unlimited mana. So you can poke anyone out of lane and not worry about having to sacrifice your heals and shields so you can poke, because you can do both. Seriously, on Soraka with coin i can 1v2 bully people in lane because I have so much sustain, unless I'm up against a very good Lulu or Janna. If I oomd quicker I would be less likely to sit there spamming poke and have to choose what I want to use my mana on.
> [{quoted}](name=Obi Wan Kanosey,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zAEOi8m0,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-03-12T10:21:19.980+0000) > > Tbh I think Ali is always viable, I played him in the middle of last ardent meta and he got me to p2 with 70% winrate (granted that dropped because it was a bit above my skill level at that point) > > I think the main issue enchanters rise back up to popularity is mainly due to {{item:3301}} - This item basically gives you unlimited mana. So you can poke anyone out of lane and not worry about having to sacrifice your heals and shields so you can poke, because you can do both. > > Seriously, on Soraka with coin i can 1v2 bully people in lane because I have so much sustain, unless I'm up against a very good Lulu or Janna. > > If I oomd quicker I would be less likely to sit there spamming poke and have to choose what I want to use my mana on. i can agree with the alistar part mostly, but i feel like he just loses late game to janna. Not to mention i think he gets kited easily without w. I just hope that the enchanters would lose some lane dominance
TheLynxMan (EUNE)
: Just rework zeke. Again, but for something useful.
> [{quoted}](name=TheLynxMan,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zAEOi8m0,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-12T10:32:09.073+0000) > > Just rework zeke. Again, but for something useful. yeah XD, sounds about right. I was exited for zekes but then it kinda just flopped
: > [{quoted}](name=smelly wet fart,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zAEOi8m0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-12T01:04:01.087+0000) > > I love it. You should work for Riot Thanks dude :D
> [{quoted}](name=smelly wet fart,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zAEOi8m0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-12T01:04:08.966+0000) > > Thanks dude :D i need friends
: I love it. You should work for Riot
> [{quoted}](name=smelly wet fart,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=zAEOi8m0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-12T01:04:01.087+0000) > > I love it. You should work for Riot Thanks dude :D
: Support itemization changes concept
I love it. You should work for Riot
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: If Riot will ever make another cinematic, name up to 3 champions, who you want in it.
: Mastery tokens on supports are hard to get ATM. With your game you haven't considered all stats in your game. A good support KDA wont get you a S. You would of needed about another 6 or 7 kills to get it with just KDA alone. It does help to have good CS, high damage and strong vision control. Vision control is VERY important. You placed 17 wards and destroyed none in a 34 minute game. Always try to dominate vision but don't try to artificially increase ward count by spamming them in base. Trying to get a decent CS score as a support will help as well. having upwards 60-70 cs at 34mins will help boost your overall performance a lot. Even if you don't have any relic charges, try to snag some CS in team pushes. A good way to get some extra CS can be to stay in lane when your AD backs to take some CS for yourself without directly taking any from his lane. Maximise your damage potential. Take ignite for damage and try to auto attack a lot in lane. If you're going to engage in a team fight attempt to flay as many people as possible to boost damage numbers. But at the same time you need to play smart. Going too aggressive can cause you to lose lane (or the game) and you will fall too far behind. Play safe on kill lanes and play very abusive on passive lanes. Roam a lot to help others get ahead. Try to help your team assert vision control. If your team wants to baron, place wards everywhere and try to have a control ward to help clear their wards. You'll be surprised how poor your KDA can be in a long game but you still get your S because all of your other stats are beyond the average. Hope this helped :D
TL:DR More wards placed and destroyed More damage More CS ez S
FLUTCH (EUNE)
: I never got a lv 7 token from this match
Mastery tokens on supports are hard to get ATM. With your game you haven't considered all stats in your game. A good support KDA wont get you a S. You would of needed about another 6 or 7 kills to get it with just KDA alone. It does help to have good CS, high damage and strong vision control. Vision control is VERY important. You placed 17 wards and destroyed none in a 34 minute game. Always try to dominate vision but don't try to artificially increase ward count by spamming them in base. Trying to get a decent CS score as a support will help as well. having upwards 60-70 cs at 34mins will help boost your overall performance a lot. Even if you don't have any relic charges, try to snag some CS in team pushes. A good way to get some extra CS can be to stay in lane when your AD backs to take some CS for yourself without directly taking any from his lane. Maximise your damage potential. Take ignite for damage and try to auto attack a lot in lane. If you're going to engage in a team fight attempt to flay as many people as possible to boost damage numbers. But at the same time you need to play smart. Going too aggressive can cause you to lose lane (or the game) and you will fall too far behind. Play safe on kill lanes and play very abusive on passive lanes. Roam a lot to help others get ahead. Try to help your team assert vision control. If your team wants to baron, place wards everywhere and try to have a control ward to help clear their wards. You'll be surprised how poor your KDA can be in a long game but you still get your S because all of your other stats are beyond the average. Hope this helped :D
jxnnik (EUW)
: My opinion on the Caitlyn Nerfs (Hurricane interaction)
Maybe rework the headshot damage and the actual stacking. For example you make it 12 shots for a headshot. Then allow for for minions and bushes to apply 2 stacks. I dont know excatly how to balance it maybe it could work. And maybe with the damage numbers should only scale hard on crit damage but have a low base to hurt the early laning
: ok, thanks for the quick reply
: Can you use 'your shop' discounts to gift other people.
You cannot unfortunately. The discounts are only available in the tab. You wouldn't be able to get them in your own store whilst my shop is active.
Adam Blaze (EUNE)
: Is this a joke?? Reset My Shop !
Welcome (back) to Your Shop! Discountbot has been hard at work hand-picking your custom deals and is excited to hear what you think. For those not familiar with Your Shop: The thoughtful Discountbot selects six skins that it thinks you’ll like and offers them at varying discounts These discounts may include Legacy skins not currently available in the store **_If you receive a skin discount on a champion you don’t own, the same discount will also be applied to the champ_** Ultimate, Legendary, Limited, Loot-exclusive, and relatively new skins (released in the last 3 months) will not be featured in Your Shop It would also help if people didn't just attack each other and maybe think about what he said. He said he didn't own most of the champions in his shop but probably didn't see the text underneath talking about the champions being included in the discount.
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Last champion you played as is the assassin trying to kill you
VaakSeun (EUW)
: Suggestions for Support Mains
{{champion:53}} can be a great option with an extremely dominant laning phase you land your Q. He also has a auto attack reset and extra damage in his e as well as a great attack speed steroid in is W which also allows for good roaming. His ult has obscene damage and great team fight with the AoE silence.He also a has a terrifying late game in 5v5 scenarios as pulling an enemy champion into your team can guarantee a kill and give an extreme amount of pressure in taking objectives or team fighting 4v5. Only real downsides are bad match ups in lane against some champs like{{champion:12}} {{champion:81}} etc and being banned a decent amount. But other than that he can hard carry a game if you play well.
Brödet (EUW)
: rakan and irelia
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l MrD l (EUW)
: Support role
They do stack. But they wont stack if theyre the same item. Mikeals and Ardent will but two Idols wont

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