: You know what's so cringy to see...
I got 2 acc perma and 3 acc is on 14 day. It works 2 good
RazerX (EUW)
: I think it's not worth banning someone over. Should be looked at in context though. So if you had a ban before and continue with negative behaviour multiple games then yea maybe. Even then I think it's pretty light. People are oversensitive. The current generation Millenials and the newer generations aren't used to people telling them they aren't good at something. A lot of them have been parented by softies that think their kids are Gods and so they grow up totally delusional about reality. I have to work with some of the worst ones and they're confused why they can't drive a 200K car at 20 and get really down when you tell them they did something wrong. They're simply not used to it. Mind you some are worse than others. It's bad in my country. Kids growing up ignore parents and everyone around them. Go around screaming and raving when they don't get their way. Annoy the shit out of people. While there's always people like that (we used to call them anti socials) it's far worse now. So long story short. You're the victim of softies that are hurt over nothing. My advice, don't use the chat. There's no arguing with people that are delusional.
Thanks for the support, I will keep it in mind the next games I play
Hawk32 (EUNE)
: No, I don't think thats toxic enough to get a ban, hardly even a chat ban. You're definatly being annoying but it's nothing a mute can't fix. People wishing cancer on other people 3 times in a game often gets away with it, it's like riot can't judge the severity of what you say, or context. Negative attitude is apparantly as bad as wishing a dog will rape my mother etc. The tribunal was alot better, normal people judging you with context. It's not the same calling someone an idiot out of the blue as it is responding "if anything, you're the idiot" after being called an idiot.
Yes I totally agree with you. And yes I am totally being annoying, but getting permanently suspended for this? Something as trivial as this haha what a joke
Obillyx (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QZAEOKVR,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-05-23T12:30:45.722+0000) > > Well that confirms it! > > This is the reply I got from rioter AVADASTRO > > "The chat is not there to complain or to argue about who is a smurf and who is not for an entire game. It's there for game-related communication to assist with actually coordinating and strategizing - filling the chat with constant complaints constitutes spamming and aside from creating a negative atmosphere overall, it also blocks attempts to use the system properly by overloading it with unhelpful commentary." > > So I actually asked him if I rely understood it right, > > I was not swearing but arguing with my team and that lead me to get permanently suspended? If you are refering to this [thread](https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/osHFhii0-do-i-deserve-to-get-permanently-suspended-for-this), this: >Dr Lav: btw Dr Lav: next time Dr Lav: I dont care Dr Lav: just so u know I leat u die and I wont follow your calls Dr Lav: if u play like that go solo I wont help you Dr Lav: i mute u Dr Lav: this adc gone tell me how to play Dr Lav: ff Dr Lav: no mid and jungel Dr Lav: and I am doing bad Dr Lav: ff Dr Lav: ff Dr Lav: 23-13 Dr Lav: nice Dr Lav: Just kill me Dr Lav: get me out of this game Dr Lav: 9 deahts mid Dr Lav: and U have all gave me 4 deaths Dr Lav: I never extend to mutch U all killed me Dr Lav: its 28-15 and u Dr Lav: and u try win team fights Dr Lav: U have went rambo for 30 min but the one time u where needed u back Dr Lav: 2/6 Dr Lav: mm Dr Lav: nice Dr Lav: end is definitely not "arguing" with your team
haha yes cut out half of the thread.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=osHFhii0,comment-id=000c0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-23T12:46:50.494+0000) > > Man please reconsider befor you talk, I had _one_ warning not more. > > And your point is total invalid it's not about how many warnings. It's also pointed out in the reply by the rioter: > > "you would have only gotten a chat restriction but as this is at least a second offense and you were warned, we take it to be evidence of a trend toward negativity so your penalty can get you permabanned even if it doesn't seem that big of a deal to you." 1) Rules you read and accepted 2) Ban. I am not a genius when it comes to math, but I can count to 2. And indeed, we can ignore the number of warnings. You had one (or two) warning and still continued to be negative. You don't want to comply, then you are forced to comply. Where is the problem in that logic? Also, isn't it ironic to get said "reconsider before you talk" by someone spamming shit in the IG chat? Did you reconsidered before bringing negativity in game?
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=osHFhii0,comment-id=000c00000000,timestamp=2019-05-23T12:34:14.685+0000) > > Please when you would make a presumption get the facts right. > > > **I had one warning** No there are rules you have to read and accept before playing. This is the first warning. Then you get ban, second warning. Hence "multiple" warnings.
Man please reconsider befor you talk, I had _one_ warning not more. And your point is total invalid it's not about how many warnings. It's also pointed out in the reply by the rioter: "you would have only gotten a chat restriction but as this is at least a second offense and you were warned, we take it to be evidence of a trend toward negativity so your penalty can get you permabanned even if it doesn't seem that big of a deal to you."
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=osHFhii0,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-05-23T12:23:26.589+0000) > > So I just got a reply from the ticket I sent, this is what rioter AVADASTRO reply: > > "The chat is not there to complain or to argue about who is a smurf and who is not for an entire game. It's there for game-related communication to assist with actually coordinating and strategizing - filling the chat with constant complaints constitutes spamming and aside from creating a negative atmosphere overall, it also blocks attempts to use the system properly by overloading it with unhelpful commentary." > > > > So they gone permanently suspended me for arguing who is smurf our not? > > > Don't misstake me, I do not feel that what I did was right but giving me permanently suspension for this is total bullshit but thats just my opinion. After multiple warnings, you still don't understand how to use the chat. And you're hopeless. So yeah, the permaban is deserved.
Please when you would make a presumption get the facts right. **I had one warning**
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Well that confirms it! This is the reply I got from rioter AVADASTRO "The chat is not there to complain or to argue about who is a smurf and who is not for an entire game. It's there for game-related communication to assist with actually coordinating and strategizing - filling the chat with constant complaints constitutes spamming and aside from creating a negative atmosphere overall, it also blocks attempts to use the system properly by overloading it with unhelpful commentary." So I actually asked him if I rely understood it right, I was not swearing but arguing with my team and that lead me to get permanently suspended?
Dr Lav (EUW)
: Do I deserve to get permanently suspended for this?
So I just got a reply from the ticket I sent, this is what rioter AVADASTRO reply: "The chat is not there to complain or to argue about who is a smurf and who is not for an entire game. It's there for game-related communication to assist with actually coordinating and strategizing - filling the chat with constant complaints constitutes spamming and aside from creating a negative atmosphere overall, it also blocks attempts to use the system properly by overloading it with unhelpful commentary." So they gone permanently suspended me for arguing who is smurf our not? Don't misstake me, I do not feel that what I did was right but giving me permanently suspension for this is total bullshit but thats just my opinion.
: dude, you just have to keep in mind , league is still kinda packed with small kiddos , players who play poorly but have huge ego , no matter what u say , they will not listen at all , and always thinking they are the best , simply mute them the moment they spam ping you or start flaming , mute is always the best solution as well as the best way to climb Elo !
Thanks I will try have it in mind in the next game, and thanks again wish u best
: Bro, just don't talk in chat. Why do you feel the urge to chat instead of focusing on your plays? We all know solo queue is fcked up, yet you still act as if it's totally new...
The game was over at 10 minutes no reason to continue the game. I had many games that I would do as you exactly say but I would still lose. So I learned that It's not worth the effort for the chans of success rate. At one point I started to play just as you said but I would not focus on these type of games I would ff as fast as possible and go next bec I won way more then I lost. And I went from s3-g2 . Yes you're totally right I am the one the thats wrong her and I am the only one losing in this, it's bec I am the typical idiot. Making the same fault over and over again. I am just as much of an idiot to get offended.
xNevaeh (EUW)
: Yupp because this isnt your first strike. You have had many warnings still you dont follow them. its better that you are not in the game.
Dr Lav (EUW)
: No I did not. I had 14 days ban then perma x)
Am I toxic for assuming someone is smurf our not, when did I say that I was right to act the way I did bec of cait?
Jku (EUW)
: You had a 10 game chat restrict, continued to flame. 25 game chat restrict, continued to flame. 14 day ban, continued to flame. Yes u deserve a perma ban. You haven't changed your behaviour so why should riot NOT punish you. And also in reference to blaming it on cait being a smurf, i checked the game. Cait is silver 2 with 43 wins 41 losses, and actually had a score of 4/8 in that game. Enjoy.
No I did not. I had 14 days ban then perma x)
: i'd give you a chat restrict, not a straight up ban. You're just a tad bit annoying and I'ma just highlight those: >Dr Lav: just so u know I leat u die and I wont follow your call >Dr Lav: when graves was top it was free top >Dr Lav: 1 q + r >Dr Lav: and he would be ded >Dr Lav: this adc gone tell me how to play >Dr Lav: u engage with 60% hp >Dr Lav: and u flame me >Dr Lav: 60% hp u try outplay a smurf >Dr Lav: if u rushed drake when vayn told u 2 we would had got drake >Dr Lav: ff >Dr Lav: ff >Dr Lav: ff >Dr Lav: 23-13 >Dr Lav: nice >Dr Lav: Just kill me >Dr Lav: get me out of this game >Dr Lav: I am behind 2k >Dr Lav: only top is ok >Dr Lav: and cait wont trow >Dr Lav: 9 deahts mid >Dr Lav: and U have all gave me 4 deaths >Dr Lav: I never extend to mutch U all killed me >Dr Lav: its 28-15 and u >Dr Lav: and u try win team fights > Dr Lav: look > Dr Lav: wtf > Dr Lav: zed dont leav nexuw > Dr Lav: u engaeg > Dr Lav: then u run > Dr Lav: okej > Dr Lav: U have went rambo for 30 min but the one time u where needed u back > Dr Lav: I went for warding drake so graves dont get free drake > Dr Lav: 2/6 > Dr Lav: mm > Dr Lav: nice > Dr Lav: end I have a few questions for you. 1. Why do you feel to say stuff that already happened? like they don't know what happened, you're just pointing out the obvious for no reason. 2. Why do you have the need to type out someones k/d/a if they are doing poorly? that's toxic. 3. Why do you feel the need to prove yourself to some random stranger on the internet you will never see again? example: _**- I went for warding drake so graves dont get free drake**_ _**- I told u I did not check mana it would be free kill if I had mana only for 1 q**_ 4. Why are you typing out hypothetical situations, acting like some sort of a smartass? if this and that happened it would be better, if you came 2 seconds earlier i would be alive, if i had this and that for only x seconds he would be dead..... Nobody cares about those, why can't you just move on and adapt to your current situation in game? example: _**IF** u rushed drake when vayn told u 2 we would had got drake_ _I told u I did not check mana it would be free kill **IF** I had mana only for 1 q_ Was your ban deserved? (since Riot doesn't hand out chat restricts) **Absolutely** Was it ban worthy? **No, you should not be banned for something so minuscule.** Unless Riot told you:"**Hey, F@#$!%#@ STOP IT!**" and you continued to be like this then it was ban worthy.
It was my second ban I had no chat restriction. Well I am an emotional person and I am trying to improve but it's not that easy for all to behave as you should at all times. And this is quite unique that I lost my "cool" in this game. Normally I would not care and only go next
: Was this report worthy? Perhaps. Was this **ban** worthy? Absolutely not. This is nowhere near what people get banned permanently for, there is general toxicity, but it's very light. Based on the context alone, I can see that you weren't initiating any flame, and was responding to negative comments, which you should generally avoid anyways. That aside, you didn't cross the line in my opinion, like use racial slurs, being homophobic etc. Hopefully a Rioter/an official can follow up on this, either here or privately.
Yes I sent a ticket. But I don't think they will reverse the ban Thanks
: This is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. I don't see why anyone would be offended by anything you said here. If they played as poorly as you seemed to explain to them, then they shouldn't be offended. If they didn't it's just not true and they shouldn't be offended? I honestly feel like you might be leaving something out. If this is what you got perma'd for it's quite sad.
I would say slightly a bit toxic but still ok. No the adc vayn was running it down hard, spam pinging me to engage early against smurf cait. And I am already aggressive as a supp. But the cait was good all ways playing out of my range. Then when we finally engaged we barly made it out so I told her what I did in chat. Meanwhile jungler is 0/5 and zed 9 deaths and they both flame me.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=osHFhii0,comment-id=000100000001000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-22T10:29:01.113+0000) > > thats absurd forcing me to behave a certain way No it's not, they only ask you to act like a decent human beeing
So u imply that I am not and thats not toxic and I am the one thats not a decant human
Cypherous (EUW)
: > so I thought it was okej to start be toxic as much as in the chat logs See this is your mistake, because its never ok to be toxic in the chat, at all :P
Julevi (EUW)
: It is not about not talking - you have to show constant positive/neutral behaviour over a longer period of time (caution: Riot measures time with games played, so you can not sit out a punishment) and I have seen vague estimations of other players starting at 3 months.
thats absurd forcing me to behave a certain way
Shozis (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=osHFhii0,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-22T09:53:45.221+0000) > > How long do u have to not talk in chat? I was getting back my honor lv so I thought it was okej to start be toxic as much as in the chat logs You actually have to talk for your punishment levels to drop - but talk in a positive/neutral manner. You have to show that you have improved. But no one except Riot knows how long it takes for punishment levels to drop.
but is the not "punishment" over when you unlock you honor level?
Cypherous (EUW)
: See this is the thing, people seem to incorrectly assume that the permaban is only reserved for extreme toxicity, it isn't, its reserved for people who got a 14 day ban and then continued to break the rules, now, there is also an issue where the wrong chatlogs are sent out with the ban notification so you can contact support to see if you were banned for a different set of logs or not, but at the end of the day its a 4 strike system (assuming you don't skip the first 2 chat restrictions) and on the final strike you're out regardless of what that strike was for
How long do u have to not talk in chat? I was getting back my honor lv so I thought it was okej to start be toxic as much as in the chat logs
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Lav,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=osHFhii0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-22T09:45:33.147+0000) > > yes I agree. > > But getting permanently suspended for this Is it your first ban?
: I'm not gonna lie, it just feels like you're talking too much and beeing too negative (report for negative attidute) When you get out of a 14D ban, the smallest sign of toxicity can lead you to a permaban, so I'd assume you were banned before and the bot went mercyless on you. Now, maybe you deleted some insults that you said before posting, nobody here got any proof and nobody can do anything for you
yes I agree. But getting permanently suspended for this
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