LegendCZ (EUNE)
: I am not passive i am agresive. And we are not in game at the first place. If you did not wanted our opinion you shouldnt post this. Also if i am so bbad summoner why i am unpunished since 2012-13? And even got mystery gifts for being good behaviour? Hmmmm let me think .. Because i am good summoner but i have enough people like you? Do you realize how many people you did hurt with your typing? obviously by your respond you are not welcomed to the league do something about it or stop cry that people saying how do you behave because your behaviour is ultra bad.
I`m not crying. I was curious about what people had to say. And there is nothing wrong with my behaviour. There is something wrong with the tolerance of league.
LegendCZ (EUNE)
: You supposed not to call anyone retarded on an any ocassion ... This is your problem you did ... Also this was your 3rd chance you were chat restricted before and had 14 day break to think about your behaviour. I am glad one flamer less. I just had a game with pre-mades who fed, let me die on puporse and had hate speech. My respond? Stay calm as much as i could. Not write anything in a chat and report after a game. Problem solved. I did not had to call anyone retard or make up poor excuses like you do for behave in such toxic way ... You were punished now i will celebrate with opening new chest and tasting your QQ tears ... Have a nice day and remember to behave on your next account. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} PS:There is dirence being emotional human or being super toxic
"I am glad one flamer less" "You were punished now i will celebrate with opening new chest and tasting your QQ tears" You are being passive aggressive right now and baiting flame just like you probably do ingame. This is also reportable and the mainreason i usually start to get annoyed by people. I never talk like this or try to get under peoples skin on the internet like this. Thanks for the perfect example.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: I'm not blowing it out of proportion. You posted your chat log, which clearly shows that you're abusing people verbally. It's not acceptable, and you can't use the excuse "we're on the internet". That's not how it works. You can appeal your ban to Riot by sending in a ticket, but they won't remove it if you were breaking the rules, something you were doing. This account is lost.
Get a dictionary i look up the word abuse please. What i did is not abuse. I send riot multiple emails with everything explained and a request to reconsider this decision. If not i will make finding all the information i need my new game...
LegendCZ (EUNE)
: "I`m a person who doesn`t flame people when they feed or make mistakes." After reading first sentence in a chat log ... I DIED.
It`s hard to read huh? to really understand what is being said....
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > I defend myself and respond to bullshit i have to take verbally and in the game. That is something very different. It's not, Defending yourself is using the mute button and reporting the player when the game is over. Once you retaliate, you're nothing better yourself, and you're simply being abusive. --- > Because we are all people and everybody flames from time to time. Everyone steps over the line once or twice, but not everyone calls people "retards". The average person wouldn't ever say something as horrible as that. --- If you don't want to improve your behaviour, that's up to you. But you're going to keep getting bans on any account you play on.
The only account i play on is this one, nothing else. I`m am not a mutebutton and their is a chatfunction available in the game that i can use... When u act inappropriate to me in person you don`t have a mutebutton on your head. I actually confront you with it like a human being. That is what u normally do in a chatfunction, talking and express your feelings because u are miles away from eachother. I personally am not such a dramaqueen that i cry when people call me names on the internet. It is not so "horrible" like you say. The things that are really "horrible" can`t even be described here. Cmon man. Stop blowing everything out of proportion.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > But there is also the law and human rights. Which isn't something you can use to defend your claim. You don't have a human right to play this game, nor is there any law stating Riot has to give you permission. If anything, players have the right to not be verbally abused, something Riot and the community take a stand against.
Verbal abuse is when i harras someone on purpose for a longer period of time because i want to hurt that person. What i do is not verbal abuse! I defend myself and respond to bullshit i have to take verbally and in the game. That is something very different. You talk about the community takes a stand to this? The community causes this my friend. Because we are all people and everybody flames from time to time. Maybe riot should be a littlebit more humane and realistic about this instead of creating their own dictatorship. I deserve the right that riot atleast reads what is going on and why people say something instead of this shallow decisionmaking.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: If you're unable to respond to people within the rules, don't respond. You're responsible for your actions, and your actions hold consequences. If other people break the rules, they'll risk the same penalties you do. You're not above the rules just because someone else started it.
Rules are made. But there is more to this than just rules. I agree that i was wrong. But i don`t accept the ban. I was really working on shutting up but people pulled it out of me. I can better myself. The only reason this pisses me off is that this game cost me allot of money and time and i`m not going to lose this. Riot has their rights and terms to protect themselves from everything that can influence their own rules from the outside. But there is also the law and human rights. And i will find out what i can and will do about this.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You're not allowed to verbally lash out at people ingame, nor are you here on the boards. Please stick to the [Universal Rules](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/3eWpXbJi).
I never flame or do this out of my own. I only respond to people who say stupid shit to me. It is hard for me to ignore it.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: That's not about being confident at all. I don't personally ever get insulted by what a random person on the internet tells me, but that doesn't mean I'll find his behaviour acceptable. I don't care if people think I should get cancer, but I'm going to report them anyway for it, because the majority of the community wants people to treat others with respect. If you want to play a game where it's ok to verbally abuse people, then this isn't the game for you.
The game is perfect for me The things around it, maybe not...
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Are you aware of how offensive calling a person "retarded" is? It's a very severe insult, that's grouped up there with wishing people get cancer, homophobia, sexism, racism. The majority of the community finds that insult to be way beyond remotely acceptable. It's a term used in a derogatory manner towards people with a mental disability. People that play this game will sometimes have family members, or friends, who have mental disabilities. They might even have a disability themselves. And you're using this as a form of mockery, to be superior to them. It's extremely low. This behaviour is simply not what is expected of this community. You've had multiple warnings, and you chose to ignore them all. You say that this is your first game after a 14 day ban, but that only suggests you didn't learn anything from your punishments. If you didn't learn from your past punishments, you're not going to learn by Riot giving you your account back, so they won't.
And i also don`t say those things to feel superior!?? I say that because people are acting like it and go full retard on me in the chat... When i call u a dumbass it doesn`t mean i think you are dumb but that i think you act dumb. But if you feel really really really offended by it, it is probably your own problem and self doubt making it stronger.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Are you aware of how offensive calling a person "retarded" is? It's a very severe insult, that's grouped up there with wishing people get cancer, homophobia, sexism, racism. The majority of the community finds that insult to be way beyond remotely acceptable. It's a term used in a derogatory manner towards people with a mental disability. People that play this game will sometimes have family members, or friends, who have mental disabilities. They might even have a disability themselves. And you're using this as a form of mockery, to be superior to them. It's extremely low. This behaviour is simply not what is expected of this community. You've had multiple warnings, and you chose to ignore them all. You say that this is your first game after a 14 day ban, but that only suggests you didn't learn anything from your punishments. If you didn't learn from your past punishments, you're not going to learn by Riot giving you your account back, so they won't.
No i`m not really aware of that. When someone says that to me i laugh really hard and let it go or make fun of it. Just like any other cursing or opinion people have about me. That is called being confident.
Kageryu (EUW)
: > Still it does not mean it is fair... since its treats everyone the same, its completely fair. Especially since they even warn you in the 14 day ban-Mail that you are close to the permaban. You were warned, you ignored it, you got thrown out. completely fair. > There is a reason why allot of people don`t trust the "system" And the reason usually is "i was banned and i should not be banned, because i say so". We get that all the time on the Forums.
"Especially since they even warn you in the 14 day ban-Mail that you are close to the permaban" So after the 14 days people should delete the chat because u can`t say "poop" otherwise you will lose your account. When they say "Further examples of toxic behavior CAN result in permanent closure of your account" it`s not very clear to me what i can say and what i can`t say. Basically this game-community together with this world is filling with pussies trying to make every swearword taboo because they feel so offended and can`t take it. Lets all just never say what is on our minds directly and act fake but stab eachother in the back. I understand everything you guys say but i can`t accept how allot of things go.
: "I`m a person who doesn`t flame people when they feed or make mistakes." "u are just retarded chasing in tto 3 creepwaces i mute and report fore negative and toxic and being a dumbass"
What is your point? I did not say that because they fed like i explained... I said that after they flamed me and were going afk and were getting killed on purpose by golems in jungle....
Kageryu (EUW)
: > Does a person get banned from a city because he stole a bottle of whiskey? no The City, no. The Store? Yea, VERY likely. Thats a good analogy.
It is... But in this case we have the store and the city combined... bad luck for me and allot of people. Still it does not mean it is fair... There is a reason why allot of people don`t trust the "system" Who is the real criminal
Kageryu (EUW)
: The problem is simply that you try to compare a possibly life threatening situation with you sitting safely at home on your PC. Thats a universe of a difference. And all Riot exepts from you is not venting in Chat. Thats it. You are free to rage and shout and slam your hand on the table. But the moment you go into chat to vent, you break the rules. And Riot does not want that. And i can assure you: Most people that don´t get punished do exactly that. Venting offline.
You think i don`t see the difference? I`m just trying to use it as a metaphore to explain you how i think. just like this, Does a person get banned from a city because he stole a bottle of whiskey? no Does a person get banned from a city when he raped or murdered multiple woman? probably... In this case i feel like i stole a bottle of whiskey and i`m like WTF
Brolando (EUW)
: Because calling people retarded, dumb asses and dumb isn't flame? Alright, mate. Even if you don't call that flame, it's still showing a negative attitude, which is also reportable. And yeah, I get that you had a bad day and got afk'ers and whatnot on your team and we're only seeing your chat, we don't know what your team said, so they might have said something to provoke you, but the reason why you got punished is that no matter what your circumstances were at the time, you still broke the rules and breaking rules can't be justified by personal circumstances that are separate from the game. Besides, if you had a bad day why even play LoL? I mean... I don't look at LoL as a game that I play to relax, unless I'm just gonna goof off with a full premade group of friends. But considering that there's a chance that if I play by myself that I might get matched with toxic players; that in itself is already enough for me to not wanna play when I've had a bad day.
It is flame.. it is wrong.. but i should not get a permanent suspension in these circumstances. If Riot just ignores this and starts to ban people without really thinking and looking into it they will lose allot of players that don`t deserve it. This is a game, not the government. Riot should be able to be a littlebit more human. Atleast talk to me about it.
Kageryu (EUW)
: > Basically you are saying that because the police says you can`t attack the person breaking in your house or def yourself because you will get sued and charged is fair and correct. Depends. If you go overboard with your "attack" you WILL get sued. In real life its all about moderation. Also self-defense is strictly tied to situations where you can get physically hurt. Thats not the case here.
But the point is... when you are in THAT moment you are not going to take 10 seconds to think things over before you act like in a forum. You feel fear, anger and you try to protect yourself and your family... Most people are not zen masters and will not hold back. And i think it is retarded that people get punished for having these emotions and reactions.
: it is not even your account, it is riot games account. all you do is "borrow" one of their accounts, there is nothing you can do to get it back.. before being toxic you should have thought about what the account meant to you.
And Riot should not punish people for having bad days and bad people around them. I want Riot to look in to my case and give me a 2nd chance. If not i will do everything i can to do something and atleast be really annoying.
: yeah we will see =) you will just look dumb, trying to sue someone for something they are allowed to do :d
I will not sue just like that without research and thinking...
: well. that dosent change the fact that they are allowed to that and that you cant sue them =)
I just want my account back, my time i`ve put in the game and the money i put in it. it should be possible to fix this. If not i`m going to try find and do everything i can do to get it...
: well. that dosent change the fact that they are allowed to that and that you cant sue them =)
We`ll see...
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I just think it is a little weird that people are not being able to react to something without also getting the blame. The matter of who started is very relevant. Even in the "grownup" world. Basically you are saying that because the police says you can`t attack the person breaking in your house or def yourself because you will get sued and charged is fair and correct. But what are you going to do when u see somebody i your house? You kick the shit out of him! Thats called being human! Me using the term robot seems very logical to me...
DrHook (EUW)
: They can even have disney`s beauty and the beast in their terms man.. When i get a 2 week ban and i get banned immediatly after 1 game because i show some frustration after 2 people allready did that i don`t agree with that. I did not ruin this game with my attitude because it was allready ruined. When something is broken you can not blame somebody for breaking it again...
If i spammed the chat like a borderline retarded kid and would throw deathwishes to them then i would understand but not like this. Riot needs a grain of salt...
: you cant sue them for banning your account... and here is why. you agreed to the terms of service when you created the account and when you wanna log in for the first time after the patch. in the terms of service it states and i quote "RIOT GAMES RESERVES THE RIGHT TO SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY OR DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU, AND WITH NO LIABILITY OF ANY KIND TO YOU. Additionally, Riot Games may stop offering and/or supporting the Game at any time. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most Account suspensions, terminations and/or deletions are the result of violation of this Agreement, the EULA, the Privacy Policy, or the Summoner’s Code" in other words you have no power here. they got the power in their hand
They can even have disney`s beauty and the beast in their terms man.. When i get a 2 week ban and i get banned immediatly after 1 game because i show some frustration after 2 people allready did that i don`t agree with that. I did not ruin this game with my attitude because it was allready ruined. When something is broken you can not blame somebody for breaking it again...
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I can`t disagree with you. But still, i think that even you have fights in the game and in real life. Would be weird if you don`t. You can act all holy and intelligent on a forum and i do understand you. But people can`t think every situation through. Offcourse i understand that my flame backfires...and there are enough games where i can just shut up. But people should not get robbed of their fun and money and time just because they have bad days and have emotions. And when people support you in what you create and make but make mistakes, you still should give them a chance to better themselves. I got suspended 30 sec after the game ended and did not even flame so hard. I just showed my frustration and called them stupid. It was like they were waiting for a bad word from me with their finger on the ban button. Atleast read the case and look at it a little bit less superficial.
DrHook (EUW)
: Permanent ban
To add, i want to apologize for showing my emotions in the chat and want to ask riot to not punish me for showing this aspect of being human.
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