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Smirk (EUW)
: When you lose 3 games in a row, Stop playing.
When I play ranked, I play it match by match. If I lose a match, i reset my mind and start fresh. A lost game is lost, no matter how much or little you stress about it. I do the same on wins, just because I went really well in one game, doesn't mean I have any advantage in the next. In the end, it's still just a game. Play to enjoy the game.
: Great support champions you should use.
Support was the first lane I've played in League of Legends and am quite comfortable there on a large pool of support champions. For people starting support I would suggest the following: {{champion:412}} Thresh Just your presence can intimidate the enemy ADC, because of your Q. On top of that, Thresh doesn't really need specific items to work well, since just grabbing those souls will grand you with armor and damage. Personally when playing Thresh I focus on the following: - Rush Sightstone to get lane vision as soon as possible (warding river, bottom bush and when possible Tri-bush. - Start with Q, then W, then E, and prioritize leveling your E. The higher level your E is, the more damage your auto-attacks will do because of it's passive effect. - Keep in mind that you can use your W (Lantern) to grab souls that are out of melee range. {{champion:89}} Leona aka Stun-Stun-Stun-Stun What makes Leona strong is her ability to engage from range and her million and one stuns. She has so many stuns, it's just rediculous. You can simply build her full tank as you're there for the utility, not the damage so much. The way I utilize abilities on engages: W -> E -> Q -> R It will start by giving you your shield just before you jump in and stun someone. Your ADC will most likely follow up immediately with some damage. Ofcourse the enemy will want to run away at which time you can utilize your Ultimate for another stun. If you're lucky you can even Q the opponent again after that. {{champion:201}} Braum What's better than a pure tank? A pure tank with a moustache! I think there aren't many champions out there that are capable of protecting your ADC as much as our good friend Braum. He can poke with his Q, eventually causing stuns, he can buff your ADC's defense by jumping to him/her with his W and he can shield your ADC from projectiles with his huge shield. Altogether a very strong support. {{champion:12}} Alistar We see Alistar coming back a lot more recently and I'm sure there's a reason for that. He's an incredibly strong support, as well as tanky AF. Make sure to learn his combo (Headbutt+Pulverize) which, if timed right, will make Alistar rush into an enemy and knock them up Malphite-ult-style. Some champions I've been experimenting with on bot, although kinda unusual: {{champion:420}} Illaoi While introduced as a solo mid/toplaner, I find this champion to be able to take quite some zone control using her Tentacles. On top of that using her E to pull the soul of the ADC or Support and turning them into a vessel can actually deal a LOT of damage. {{champion:268}} Azir Probably one of the weirdest support experiments I've done and quite tough to utilize properly for sure. The thing about Azir is that he can zone out opponents really, really well and will be dealing a LOT of damage in the mid/lategame. {{champion:161}} Vel'Koz While it is generally an AP Carry, it can work quite well as a Support too. Ofcourse you're going to have to master using his Q, but Vel'Koz is definitely a master of movement speed reduction and knockups, not to mention his ult that will drill ADC's off the Rift. {{champion:34}} Anivia I generally use this only if my ADC is playing Vayne. And why? Basically one day I was wondering if Vayne's knockback/stun would work on Anivia's ice wall, too. So I just tested it with a friend and it did, so it's a pretty strong combination with Vayne.
Rax00r (EUW)
: Hello, what you should do when losing a 2v2 depends on what your enemy laners are doing. If they are just staying bot to farm and pressure, all you need to do is play safe and get as much CS as you can, try not to take to much damage while farming 1CS is not worth losing half of your health bar. If they are pressuring other lanes you need to group with your team whenever you can, only go bot to clear a wave that´s about to hit your tower, you can also take jungle camps if there´s nothing going on on the map. Don´t be greedy for CS and don´t overextend just clear your lane and try to group. Sometimes people will rage at you for not doing enough damage in fights, just ignore them. Your goal when grouped is to play safe and assist your team, if your team is stronger you will pick of some kills and assists that will help you buy the items that you need. If your team is weaker you will lose and there is not much you can do about that scenario. Pushing bot to get more CS will not get you enough gold fast enough for you to make a difference in the game and you will most probably just feed the enemy team more kills if you try to do that, and most ADC´s irrelevant of bronze or diamond tend to do that. So be smart and help out your team win as best as you can don´t worry about CS or other irrelevant statistics. Yes you will be down in CS and it will be frustrating, however the best thing you can do when losing lane is to stall the enemy from taking your towers without dyeing, the longer you stall them, the more time your buying for your team to do something useful. What your doing is relying on your team to win the game for you so its a 50/50 chance, there will be games when you lose lane and your team is also getting outplayed, so you just do your best and lose the game anyway, its frustrating but it happens and you have to be able to deal with this outcome. From looking at your profile I can give you a few tips: -don´t rush tier 2 boots, and NEVER buy boot upgrades unless your full build (I sometimes never even upgrade and play with lvl1 boots even when I´m almost hitting my full build) -always buy blue trinket when your past lvl9 -don´t start cull, take a dorans blade, you could buy cull on your first trip to base if you don´t have anything better to buy, butt since your in bronze and average 150CS per game just please never buy cull it will just set you back. -runes replace the 2 life steal quints with attack speed or damage if you don´t have them, 3 AS quints is the standard these days. -don´t play Caitlyn if you want to win Let me explain this point in more detail. If you like Caitlyn by all means play her this game is about having fun. However you need to be aware that as a bronze player you will not be able to use her auto attack range advantage and that´s the main thing why people pick her in higher elo. Champions with less range have most of the time a stronger kit then those with more, so if your playing at a rating where auto attack range doesn´t mean shit your probably better of playing ADCs with standard ranges like Lucian, Corky, even Draven I see you play him. Avoid playing champions such as Cait or Ashe even Tristana although she has a strong early game kit, you most likely wont be able to use her range advantage later in the game. Hope some of this helps :)
Thank you for your many tips. The reason I play Caitlyn often is because I feel very comfortable playing her, and her larger range on auto's. However, as you said, I don't really find myself 'carrying' games on Caitlyn too often, unless I manage to completely CRUSH the early and are capable of picking up 3-4 kills quickly. My champion pool isn't the problem. I own every champion and I try to get comfortable on more ADC's along the way.
: Any experienced ADC's can give me some advice?
Thanks to all of you who gave me your advice, I'll try to take it into account and definitely will take a look at runepage/masteries (Thanks so much for that). Regarding the passive play I mentioned, it's something I tend to do when I fall behind in lane.
Rioter Comments
Dephazz (EUW)
: Good interpretation ;) That gives me an idea , we could use a champion playing mind games or having psionic powers similar to the Protoss who are masters of psionic powers and are natural mind-readers. Will create a champ concept suggestion. Using a toned down version of very-short-term mind control and stuff like psionic storm. http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-creations-en/PsM5LLbH-concept-introducing-psionics-to-runeterra-and-balancing-the-void-with-the-khala
> [{quoted}](name=Dephazz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yY2sO5d1,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-02-18T14:52:24.050+0000) > > Good interpretation ;) > That gives me an idea , we could use a champion playing mind games or having psionic powers similar to the Protoss who are masters of psionic powers and are natural mind-readers. Will create a champ concept suggestion. > Using a toned down version of very-short-term mind control and stuff like psionic storm. > > http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-creations-en/PsM5LLbH-concept-introducing-psionics-to-runeterra-and-balancing-the-void-with-the-khala A champion that gains 10% AD for every time someone writes a cencored word in the chat?
Silisa (EUNE)
: Because a number of junglers prefer to play farming simulator for the first 20 minutes, leaving their team to play 4v5 in that time (ironically, the opposing jungler decides to play the opposite and seemingly camps all lanes simultaneously).
The way I jungle myself. I jungle using the following champs: - Sejuani - Shyvana - Jarvan IV - Maokai and a few more, but these are my mains I mainly focus my ganks on top/mid as they are easier to gank than bot, from my experience. However, even if I gank bot twice, they always seem to blame me if they lose lane :< As much as I'd like to help out lanes, I can't simply keep camping every lane constantly, would cause me to fall behind and become useless.
ProoGracz (EUNE)
: Well, i don't know how can i blame jungler for having less farm than enemy adc. If you lose baron to a skillshot from enemy team then what u expect, especially if it happens not once in a match but a few times.
Imo, baron/dragon loses can be because of a bad smite, or simply because the enemy jungler is a higher level than you, meaning his smite damage is higher. But believe it or not, I frequently get blamed for botlane losing when our ADC gets outfarmed, for example.
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Leptyx (EUW)
: [Poll] To players who want to play only one role (e.g: mid) : would you rather ...
Because I main jungle, it's important to understand each lane, champion etc in order to know what to expect from your teammates, but from your opponents as well. You still see too many people in ranked who get their secondary lane and cry in the lobby "Omg i cant play this lane, switch pl0x". I still think, especially in ranked, it's important to know at least 3 lanes.
Jhyntu (EUW)
: Promos and behavior
What I usually do in my Promos is give people the lanes they want to play, even if it means having to play one of my less preferred lanes myself. Do not stress out during promos, they are a game like any other and frustration will only cause you to make more mistakes. If people start calling 'gg lost' etc just don't even respond to it. Play the game as best you can, you can't do more than that.
: Lost a game cuz I listened to a smurf
At the time you did what you thought was the right thing to do. However, you only really explained one part of the game, which was the end. Maybe your team already made some mistakes earlier in the game that got the enemy team too strong. In that case a splitpush might have been your only chance to win the game and the choice of splitpushing was the right choice to make, but didn't end in victory. As for the report whines, don't even pay attention to them, people cry for reports over every little thing.
Malardor (EUNE)
: This state is caused by RIOT itself. If they really care about community and give any punishing for trolling, feeding and for abusing raport system (they even said that they will fight with this) numbers of raport will slowly drop to normal level as well as number of toxic players. Nowadays people feel untouched by tribunal so they dont ever care for any raport or something. Someone told me on this forum, that last year 5% community was punished at least once for verbal abuse. Its laughtable seriously. When we can punish this type of person by using algoritm and give him at the beggining 1hour ban restriction whitch will grow after next raports it should be something like 40% community punished at least once, something like 20% at least twice ets. Nowadays 5% community, or if we want bew more accureta, 5% accounts should be perma banned not punished by chat restriction. And where are any info how much people was punished? People had to know that something watch over them.
> [{quoted}](name=Malardor,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sTuBJ8VW,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-03-18T16:18:35.143+0000) > > This state is caused by RIOT itself. If they really care about community and give any punishing for trolling, feeding and for abusing raport system (they even said that they will fight with this) numbers of raport will slowly drop to normal level as well as number of toxic players. Nowadays people feel untouched by tribunal so they dont ever care for any raport or something. > > Someone told me on this forum, that last year 5% community was punished at least once for verbal abuse. Its laughtable seriously. When we can punish this type of person by using algoritm and give him at the beggining 1hour ban restriction whitch will grow after next raports it should be something like 40% community punished at least once, something like 20% at least twice ets. Nowadays 5% community, or if we want bew more accureta, 5% accounts should be perma banned not punished by chat restriction. > > And where are any info how much people was punished? People had to know that something watch over them. On top of that, you still see many people send reports for no reason at all. I've had it happen to me many times that I get reported by the opposing team (since I play with full premade party) for Verbal Abuse while I have my [ALL]-chat disabled. People tend to report opposing players if they lose a game in many cases.
: Ranked Games
Instead of resigning from Ranked completely you could push yourself to learn more roles/lanes so that you don't have to worry about 'your lane' so much. On top of that, between Bronze and Gold, there's not that much difference in attitudes. It's possible you've had better experiences with Gold players, but I'm pretty sure even in Gold, Platinum and probably even Diamond you meet retarded people.
: rankeds and normals use different MMR though
> [{quoted}](name=Foxist,realm=EUW,application-id=mmWRnfcc,discussion-id=7QRZFAEY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-03-16T07:16:06.144+0000) > > rankeds and normals use different MMR though Quoted for truth. Being a Bronze player myself I frequently get matched against high gold or even low platinum in normals.
: I meet diamonds in normal on a regular basis: am I diamond material? no. Are you low plat material? No.
All I said is that i play against them. Where did I say "I should be Platinum"? You, sir, have some serious reading problems.
: Then what was it? Your experience in bronze V? I bet some people here can tell stories of how they carried with AD Nunu. Climb out of bronze V to gold maining sejuani with your tactics and experience, maybe you will have some voice on the matter. ps: you described a lot of wrong things about sejuani and the builds you make with her are often wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=Tomatotimer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7ZvIQJEt,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-03-17T10:59:10.747+0000) > > Then what was it? Your experience in bronze V? I bet some people here can tell stories of how they carried with AD Nunu. > > Climb out of bronze V to gold maining sejuani with your tactics and experience, maybe you will have some voice on the matter. > > ps: you described a lot of wrong things about sejuani and the builds you make with her are often wrong. Actually it's simply a share of my experiences and ways of playing her against people In Silver/Gold/Low Plat I play against in normals with my friends. Still, thank you for your opinion, as offensive as it was.
: I like how bronze V think they got anything about the game and want to give lessons. Jesus, 3 seasons and stuck in bronze, don't come here to teach and learn instead. P.S.: Rylai on sejuani is the most noobish thing a noob can do.
> [{quoted}](name=Tomatotimer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7ZvIQJEt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-03-17T10:47:29.818+0000) > > I like how bronze V think they got anything about the game and want to give lessons. Jesus, 3 seasons and stuck in bronze, don't come here to teach and learn instead. > > P.S.: Rylai on sejuani is the most noobish thing a noob can do. Nice hatecomment. Also, this discussion wasn't even intended as a "Sejuani Jungle Lesson" as I stated way before.
Petsho (EUW)
: The fact that sunfire cape is in there almost makes me think this is copy pasted. You should change sunfire cape to Randuin's or Banshee's and get the Cinderhulk enchantment. Also she is good at counterjungling? She is pretty weak pre-6... Not trying to hate, but just what I think. Also I really love {{item:3151}} on Sejuani.
> [{quoted}](name=Petsho,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7ZvIQJEt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-03-17T09:57:17.534+0000) > > The fact that sunfire cape is in there almost makes me think this is copy pasted. > > You should change sunfire cape to Randuin's or Banshee's and get the Cinderhulk enchantment. > > Also she is good at counterjungling? She is pretty weak pre-6... > > Not trying to hate, but just what I think. > > Also I really love {{item:3151}} on Sejuani. Like I stated in my post, this is how I play Sejuani when building full tank. Not being the damage dealer. And to be honest, Sejuani can counterjungle pretty well, at least in the games I've played which is low ELO obviously. Regarding the Cinderhulk enchantment, i figured it wouldn't be necessary mentioning this as any tanky jungler will most likely build it to begin with.
Rioter Comments
RUS (EUW)
: Banner?
> [{quoted}](name=RUS,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yhgryjIu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-03-17T04:00:00.874+0000) > > Banner? With some Summoner Icon's the banner on your profile changes. For example: - Pulsefire Ezreal Summoner Icon - Spirit Guard Udyr Summoner Icons - DJ Sona Summoner Icons I'm loving the banners but I much rather show my LCS Team love in my Summoner Icon than a "Look at how much money I wasted on this game"-icon.
Shiroe x (EUW)
: ive started to do this also , i had 45 ranked ban and 20 min ques and 45 chat bans . chat bans twice in a row , but ive started to not talk in chat unless its say mid no flash, drake, baron ect. flamers i either say ONCE no more to stop its not helping anyone and dont respond to them after that . ve started to saty more carm in games and ive found im doing 10x better in games now , but if you learn to not rage and everyne dose rage even if they wont admit it , you will impromve on your game and your teams game. plus listenign to stand up while playign eague helps . lets you laugh and play btw kevin heart is funny as hell . i always do the gj , nice it dose helps . but i fi see someone flash into a a wall n they die , sorry but i cant help but laught and they take that a s a joke and laugh aswell . better then get pissed off.
Well flashing into a wall is something that happens to us all :D I can do nothing but laugh about it either, even if it happens to myself.
: Thank you Riot, Sincerely.
I'm pretty satisfied with this patch as well. Some junglers who had a pretty hard time in the early stages of Season 5 are becoming strong picks again. It's only a matter of time before the Hecarim jungle meta comes back I hope :D
Yourself013 (EUNE)
: and the worst part is- that "mid only" guy goes mid and feeds anyway...
> [{quoted}](name=Yourself013,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EwLyLYn4,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-13T07:20:56.615+0000) > > and the worst part is- that "mid only" guy goes mid and feeds anyway... If I'd tell you how many times I gave my preferred Jungle or ADC lane to someone else who can "only play that lane" and saw them be totally useless....
Solash (EUW)
: Early clearing with Kha'Zix...
That's why you max your W in jungle and utilize your passive by isolating targets.
AkisAza49 (EUNE)
: I'm easily driven mad and then I flame a lot. Also I listen to gangsta rap when I play. ANY TIPS?
> [{quoted}](name=AkisAza49,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5oRZpRj3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-03-12T13:12:51.541+0000) > > I'm easily driven mad and then I flame a lot. Also I listen to gangsta rap when I play. ANY TIPS? Not sure if serious or trolling....but eitherway....a big part of your behaviour on the Rift is in your own hands. Like you said you're easilly driven mad so I'd strongly suggest to disable the [ALL]-Chat for sure, since most taunting and trolling is done in there. Personally I always listen to Hardrock / Metal music but when I play League I tend to listen to relaxing music (sometimes even classical music) just to keep myself relaxed and calm. It worked for me, worth a try I guess, but can't guarantee it will work for you as well.
Yourself013 (EUNE)
: Second this...and MAINLY the first 2. There is nothing I hate more than coming into lobby and hearing "I ONLY PLAY NIDA JUNGLE" or "ADC ONLY" ...
That was exactly what I was aiming for. If you ask me, if you can only play a certain lane/champion you aren't ready to play Ranked just yet. What I always tell myself and my friends is "You're only as good as your worst lane/role" ^_^
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