: The Summoner's Code of League // People who say "easy", "ez"...
Completely agree. Although it is considered a minor offence. Sportsmanship is important to a good game. It's an instant report for me, whether the person is on my side or the other I'll report them for 'EZ' comments or the like and have a go at them for it. In most sports, like rugby (not football), sportsmanship and manners are vital and the players can be punished in game for breaching them. Being hard on such things is important to preserve the spirit of the game.
DaWolfer (EUW)
: they rather take 1 midlane turret then 3 midlane turrets + baron + inhib
When you realised no help was coming for baron you shouldve switched to mid. Maybe your call was correct but there's no point in being stubborn about it if others don't agree.
Cryice (EUNE)
: Heart of the League - Positive player behaviour actually exists
It's Nice and all. But basically 5 people got a loss who didn't deserve it instead of 4 that didn't and 1 that did? We all get games like these, I try my hard not to rage at the irritating kids who ruin these games but I'm afraid we have to suck it up. At the end of the day, in theory the enemy team will get it more than your team does.
IkOerman (EUW)
: I like the general idea, i've always felt a video replay was missing from the Tribunal. _**(Riot: Hit 2 bird with 1 stone, if u save replays anyway, people should be able to view their own.)**_ > [{quoted}](name=IsmaeelH,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=v9nA29mE,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-06T18:45:18.255+0000) > Other Features > - Reward good judges to give players a reason to do this. Riot has stated a few times before that they would not give any big _(read: usefull)_ rewards. Reason for this is that they dont want to give judges a motivation to just browse through the case as fast as possible, to gain ranks and rewards. I remember in tribunal, at a time, it was a few IP's per case, but it was so little that they were in fact negligible.
Well yes, it might be a usable if you do it on number of cases seen. But if you do it on accuracy to overall opinion. If I judge 50 cases and 95% of my decisions are what happens based on other people's decisions I'dd say that's pretty good judge there. It's also highly unlikely that I've just skimmed through and taken a 50/50 shot at it.
IsmaeelH (EUW)
: Tribunal App
Looks good! Wouldn't that be a lot of data to load every time you were using it though?
: Unranked team mates in my ranked game
They have to filter unranked into ranks at some point. I believe they way they do this is by placing them with ranked players and seeing how they get on. I'll admit 3 at once seems unusual. But just because they're unranked doesn't mean they're bad you know? Think off it this way: I was Gold 5 last season so it goes something like this: Game 1: I play with other Gold 5's - I win Game 2: I play with Gold 4's - I lose Game 3: Gold 5's - lose Game 4: Silver 1's - lose Game 5: Silver 2's - win Game 6: Silver 1's - lose 7: S2's - L 8: S3's - w 9: S2's - L 10: Silver 3's - W Silver 2 Therefore I'm now stuck in Silver 2 with 4 wins and 6 losses. But in order to do this I play with others in my situation or others in those ranks. You'd probably find those players were silver 2/3s in their qualification games. P.s. I could be completely wrong, but this is my understanding...
: So, i started to play support more. And now, i know this.
I agree to a point. I do believe that supports get noticed. Look at Aphromoo, Yellowstar, Kasing etc. When casting they often refer to 'Kasings Thresh play', or how immense Aphromoo is on Bard etc. I mean it helps when Kreppo casts as he is an ex support player too. Often supports are referred to for their overall game management as well (frequently they're the team captain so to speak as they have the best map awareness (alongside Junglers)). However yes, a supports life is usually glory free. You'll never get a penta or quadra, as this is bad. And yes, your ADC will blame you for losing lane. But let's be honest, you're probably blaming them. 50% of the time it'll be your fault, 50% it's theirs (on average). But I do agree, the outplay potential for some supports is immense. Thresh is my favourite for this. Got any dashes? Nah, I'll interrupt them thanks. Nothing better than stopping a lee sin dash, or a reksai tunnel. Or even better, a Tristana escape. I do think you raise a valid point though. Please, ADC's and other players- recognise your supports plays. They are generally not seeking glory. but we like to be thanked and recognised too...
TCU Dushi (EUW)
: One the rare occasion i play ADc and play with a Thresh support on my side i give them 1 chance to get cs that game. Execute the cannon properly the first time? Congrats you can try again. Most Thresh players manage to f*ck up the relic shield proc on the cannon minion and i simply refuse to take the risk of him screwing me over multiple times during the laning phase. If you complain about 2 cannons giving you a pink ward, imagine missing 2 cannon minions as a ADc and just missing out on that BF sword buy when basing.
1 shot seems a bit harsh. Do you supports scrutinise you as much about a 1 or 2 CS difference between you and the opposing ADC? So, you don't want to take the risk that you'll lose a small small fraction of your total income so you screw over your supports high fraction of their income? Have you considered that this same thresh is your tank? That this pink ward is protecting you? Also, to recover that lost 40 odd gold takes you seconds. It takes a support much longer. I would ask you to be a tad more forgiving, as I've stated before. I completely agree, if your support constitantly screws it up then by all means don't bother. But perhaps let them go for a couple...
: Another note. If I roam as support and end up mid or top for a minute. If my relic stacks are up, please let me hit the minions. I hate when Yasuo main has to swoop in and kill a whole wave in 2 hits before I can even swing.
Silisa (EUNE)
: Except when your support Thresh can't last hit to save his life. My brother played ADC a day or two ago and had a Thresh support who kept screaming at him to leave him the canon and kept missing them. At least 5 canons (if not more) were sacrificed until my bro finally lost it and started last hitting everything.
Yes, someone who cannot last hit with thresh is a problem. However If I missed a few in a row I wouldn't be upset if my ADC took them (as mentioned previously). He does take practice to get it right. But I would ask your brother to be forgiving of the odd missed CS. At the end of the day, how many supports do you know that flame their ADC if their CS is 5 lower than the enemy ADC?
: Meh, that's why I tend to not play supports depending on relic shield. I'm sick of having to fight my own ADC for gold and never getting to use my relic shield stacks. It also steals from time I should spend warding or harassing the enemy, when I have to arm-wrestled my laning partner for gold. And the worst part is, they get cranky when you're not "tanky enough" to keep them alive, and yet they don't wanna let you have the gold you need to build any items. So, I just say I have no tanky supports, I refuse to go relic shield.
It's only 1 charge per 40 seconds. You can walk off for 1 min 20 seconds and build charges while warding so no problem there. And yes, the problem with ADCs not caring/understanding is a big deal. The game in question was going on about "why do you care about the cannon, you're only support"... Well actually, it's a significant portion of my gold income and allows be to support you better. And here's the kicker. You don't lose anything, you actually get a free heal!
Perilum (EUW)
: This is why I use coin. I can concentrate on poking 24/7 and hyper speed Sonic roaming and leaching in ganks.
It is good for the speed. But I usually go tanks thresh and this does affect your tankiness significantly. Also, the ward item I find very useful. 1. It gives thresh the opportunity to heal himself/lane partner. 2. It's the best route to get an early warding item. 3. Tanky earlier so should die less. Ideally, the speed boost is lovely too.
Ulriah (EUW)
: ''This led me to not trust his experience as a ADC even though he was claiming to be a pro (isn't everyone pros?)'' All ADC's think they're pros and the stars of the game, in reality most of them are garbage and playing the least impactful role in the game.
Heh yes so true. I loved it at the end game. I went 2-2-20 or something and all but the ADC on our team got S's. Funnily enough he didn't say much...
: It is actually bad, first time I played thresh I took it because It was recommended, and boy was I embarassed by it xDDD And that's coming from somebody who excels at last hitting.
Really? You do miss the odd one. But then so do most players (even the pros miss CS every now and then). I find it ok. It can be tricky, but I rarely miss a CS as long as the ADC helps/doesn't try for it too.
: You just countered his entire post. Well done.
Not really. Just stated it was hard. Not bad.
Leptyx (EUW)
: This problem is not about the ADC, but with your entire team, once you begin to roam to other lanes, all of your teammates are likely to waveclear pretty fast but they don't give a f# about your relic either As for Thresh, i play with Coin on him just because of the shitty ADCs out there lol
yes, that's true. It's annoying when other lanes do it when you roam as well. but I usually forgive them as it's less common and they're not your laning partner.
Teahyun (EUW)
: both should try to lasthit it because the amount of times i see supports fail it is more frustrating for both players.
ADCs fail to last hit sometimes too. does this mean that as a support I should go for their CS too? in case they fail? Now, I agree, if your support has failed 3 minions in a row or something then maybe I can see why you'd do this.
Trias000 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EndlessBug,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7xhnaAO4,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-05T15:35:39.910+0000) > > your number is lower but you have the same gold. No, I meant it increases the number itself. When you kill a minion with relic shield, both you and your adc gain +1 to your creep score.
oh, didnt realise that. thanks for the update
Trias000 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EndlessBug,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7xhnaAO4,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-05T13:32:53.077+0000) > I know your ego will take a hit because it might look like your CS is lower than their ADCs. but remember, you are SHARING cs... No, it actually increases their cs as well.
your number is lower but you have the same gold. Therefore all that changes is the number on the tab screen. actual gold is identical
Trias000 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ApatheticLoner,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=7xhnaAO4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-05T13:47:21.720+0000) > > ->Thresh > > ->Relic Shield > > http://img09.deviantart.net/bcd7/i/2014/317/2/e/vectorized_sweating_towel_guy_by_thinkaliker-d8693zh.png What does this even mean? That building relic shield on Thresh is bad or what?
it's harder to execute, but isn't bad.
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