: 17 deaths in 1 game ;) You have 60+ in the 6 games and you have the audacity to blame your team for those losses.
: Im guessing you're talking about trolls and flamers, not noobs and flamers? And yes I think they both should be punished, and they are. The issue is that chatlogs can easily prove who is a flamer, but it is more difficult to prove if a bad player is a troll. For example : A player who goes 0/20 in a game and has more than one {{item:3070}} is probably a troll right? However, there is a small possibility that this player isn't trolling or inting, he could just be an idiot/incredibly unskilled/never bought that item before because he exclusively mains a champ that doesn't use mana. In this scenario, there is a 95%+ chance this player is just a troll, but there is no real way to definitively prove it 100% unless they admit to it. This is possibly why we see flamers getting banned faster than inters. tl;dr - It's easier to prove flaming than trolling
Flamers mostly care about the game though. So in that matter I would prefer having banned terrorists that threaten to go afk or actually do it. Or Threats of troll for not giving them the role that they didn´t got due to autofill.
: lol i like how low silver players think that their rank is way better than bronze. in fact if you cant hard carry low silver then you are really bad and you just need to admit it. having scores like 2-15 or losing a lot means your true potential is bronze and you dont belong in the elo you are. trolls afks etc are all just excuses. if you cant carry you dont deserve to win, a lot of people are losing games with scores like 15-2 but they dont cry on the forums. also the season ends in in end of the year. keep playing and im sure with that attitude you will end it on bronze 5 and just quit the game with the excuse of others destroying your game. league is full of people like you thats why i have stopped playing ranked
Well, I hard carried silver the last two seasons with fiddle and sona. But if you wanna throw around wild assumptions just go ahead. hint: this thread is about intentionally afking and stuff.
: > [{quoted}](name=Eodin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gRWEOKOQ,comment-id=000300000002000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-05T20:32:52.020+0000) > > Not entirely. > I really don´t care about peoples stats as long as they interact reasonably with the team. So youre one of those feeders who blames the team as i suspected
you have 17 deaths on renekton the fk are you complaining about. enjoy your long term stay in silver 2.
: If i had a swain who died 18 times because of "mf took all kills never fight always 4v5" i would ragequit too
That was clearly before. but i guess logic thinking isn´t for the lol comunity.
Coopa123 (EUW)
: You complained about trolls, feeder, inters and afks The only thing I see which could be concidered a troll was ivern supp with smite. Other than that you only had bad teams. And you contributed to them being bad. Essentially you complained about yourself and I only pointed out how incredibly hypocritical you were.
Not entirely. I really don´t care about peoples stats as long as they interact reasonably with the team. And in addition to the matches you mentioned you skipped the ones with 0 2 0 rage quit draven 3 8 11 mejais no sightstone lux support and also the 6 14 8 botting annie in my 18 death match
Str33TXeR (EUW)
: ***
Well I can´t agree, that I should have won all of my games. And I also can´t agree with your wording, but I have to Agree, that COOPA123´s argumentation is wildly flawed and that he also is the kind of guy triggering people to straight up call out on him so that those people get banned for flaming rather than the guy intentionally ruining 9 other peoples ux.
: I'd rather play with someone who has literally no idea what he's doing, rather than a semi-competent manchild who literally cannot be reasoned with. Every.Time
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: I would say you have won with good team as many as you have lost with bad one. And still the ones who really are trying to lose on purpose are pretty darn rare.
I can not confirm that. A rate above 5% is too high imo. And it was by far higher than 5% in my last week.
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eodin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gRWEOKOQ,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-05T15:56:43.604+0000) > but I kind of just want to get riot to start reducing the rate of toxic games. > > not in a offensive language way, > but in a game ruining way. > > since the game can be fun at times. I have used this quote once before but as it goes well with these kind of topics I think I may use it now too: _"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"_ -W. Churchill The problem with having system that would have no tolreance towards bad score would be that it would ban more innicent players than those who actually troll. If Riot had invented magical cure to block toxicity they would have used it. Problem is that community is pretty big and as you cannot predict what players do before they actually do it. There is no way of blocking possible trolling happening in in advance. On the other hand blocking flaming is many times easier as there is really,really rarely any missconceptions between intended flame and normal chat behaviour.
Maybe I phrased the title wrong, but I am not here to discuss bad scores. I want to point out people like the ivern that straight up refuse to fill their assigned support roll and hope on others dodging for them. Also it´s about an attitude towards the game. maybe, the kassadin just had connection problems rather than rage quitting twice, still buying redemption, the ward item and 3 tears is straight up taunting people to tilt further. these kind of people might have a bad day and it might be unfair to not give them another chance, but at least give them a temporarily detention rather than ignoring it to the ground.
Coopa123 (EUW)
: Don't tell me what to learn if you lack basic reading comprehension. Kassadin bought 3 tears when the game was over and I already told you that. He had a normal build throughout a game. You are upset because you keep playing bad and keep losing and you can't accept the fact that you are bad so you blame everything and everyone.
so buying a ward item and a redemtion after rage quitting twice is normal behaviour in your small world ?
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eodin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gRWEOKOQ,comment-id=000600000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-05T17:09:34.666+0000) > 3) I play around objectives and not nessesarily about KDA. By all means play around objectives but do not die. Having negative score is saying that you are doing something wrong. It's not that you should try to get kills but it's just as simple as avoiding death(aka avoiding giving enemy advantage). If you think that it's fine to have negative score if it has draw pressure,why emphatize on the fact that you get people on your team who also think it's just as fine? > > IMHO I won the lane if I either stomp it, can use my tp for bot or if i at least draw the jungler attention towards my lane without dying. Which goes hand in hand with the point 3. Except the last one is pretty dangerous one. I wouldn't rely under any circumstances that drawing pressure is enough in silver or lower gold(I made it into plat in season 6 with lane push nasus so would consider it be valid starting from higher gold). In many cases players around you(silver 3 in this case) don't play around the objectives meaning though you draw pressure off from them. So,you actually have two choises:either stomp or roam. Both of which demand not to give enemy laner advantage meaning you actually should care about kda.
Again. All those worries about my KDA are nice and fine, but I am not really complaining about losing to better players than me. I am just stating the fact, that I have lost more matches due to toxicity than nessesary. I am playing ranked to improve my gameplay and not to waste 30-40 minutes on people trying to put others down by ruining their games.
GLurch (EUW)
: I didn't take the worst. These work just as fine as others, it may just be harder for you to realize that due to factors you don't know (yet) or because you can't accept some things and focus on the wrong aspects. Even if you had a disadvantage (such as being 4v5), you still did mistakes as well. And you can learn from these. For example, you could practice on what to do when you're behind or simply being outplayed. If you were really good at that, you may even have a fair chance of winning 4v5s. I wasn't in the game, I'm no high elo player and I'm not you, I can't give you exact advices on everything. I can only tell you that you are doing something wrong, something you are maybe not even aware of that it exists. It's up to you to find out what you are doing wrong and to improve that.
Objectively speaking: this kassadin and this ivern need a straight up 4 weeks or more ban. nothing less. These games were not the slightest about me. This thread isn´t about me. It´s about riot standing up for their comunity and starting to throw out the player garbage for once. It is not ok to ruin 9 other peoples games, because you got auto filled on support.
: I have to agrea on this topic. The normal matchmaking is just crazy. I can understand that the enemy team is slightly better when I'm smurfing but when they start matching high diamonds on the enemy team when I need to work with 4 bronze player those game get a little difficult. I have no problem when my team would be gold or plat in those situations but if you get into a game you known one of your solo lanes will be 0-20 in the first 10 minutes just because of the skill differents in those matchups you just get a random match outcoming depending who got the most high elo players. The runes & masteries is indeed a big issue. Unless you play {{champion:19}} you are basicly screwed in the current jungle. Even with runes & masteries it's already a pain their is miscommunication in champion select you endup with a {{champion:1}} or {{champion:26}} that even with kiting the camps becomes a real nightmare (a skill new players doesn't have). I think riot really need to look into the jungle for low levels. Seriously I would even suggest something like a damage reduction buff for monsters effect for players than are below level 10. Than they would add least be able to jungle a little bit and start learning the role just like any other position.
that might work as wel. but since you want to learn how this specific game works on later levels it might be the easiest to hand out some prefab rune set and mastery you can´t change until a certain level or something similar
Coopa123 (EUW)
: One excuse after another. > 1-8-6 swain was due to ivern second jungler (troll) So you having a bad botlane made you die 5 times midlane and for some reason play exceptionally bad. Legit > 1-4-2 swain was due to a fking 3 tear kassadin (troll) Kassadin was building normally the entire game. He sold his items at minute 29 and bought 3 tears. > 2-11-5 darius was a normal duoing with my level 13 friend vs rank 12 in 3v3 If the roles were reversed you would be crying here about a Darius jungle troll who played absolutely terrible > 3-12-9 swain wasn´t a good match Just like every other game I pointed out. What's the difference? Can't think of an excuse to justify you playing bad this time? > 6-18-8 swain was because mf was the person getting kills and left us fighting 4v5 all the time Dying 18 times is unacceptable. People actually intentionally feeding and running it down mid constantly have this many deaths. And your excuse is that someone on your team did something which then made you die EIGHTEEN times? C'mon ... > 2-12-6 swain i got shit on by ekko to be fair. Unlike in all other games, where you got shit on by the enemy team because of something your teammates did You also proved my point. You are bad at the game but can't accept that fact. And because you are so insecure about your scores and skill level you constantly have to make excuses and blame you playing extremely bad on everything and everyone else but yourself.
I don´t give a shit about my stats. You plain picked on some KDA even from normals. This thread is about people randomly deciding to go afk and stuff. So if you can´t stay at the topic I´d recommend you to have a nice day with your friends rather than talking about stuff you don´t understand. EDIT: OK. Different attempt. I give it to you. Ban me for 2 weeks for going 0 18 0 in a lost match, but at least ban this kassa and the ivern for more than that.
Coopa123 (EUW)
: Looking at your scores you're no different than the people you complain about. Most of the times, based on how ridiculously often you die it looks like you're the primary reason you lose most of these games
I am not complaining about losing lane. Read the thing before you talk. I am talking about porposely picking a second jungler because you got auto filled support or buying 3 tears on kassadin because people don´t want to surrender. learn to anticipate.
: 80% of your games you have a negative score, could you explain it?
1) this isn´t quite right. 2) if i play more passive my participation matters less on low elo, so I play oppressive. 3) I play around objectives and not nessesarily about KDA. IMHO I won the lane if I either stomp it, can use my tp for bot or if i at least draw the jungler attention towards my lane without dying.
Doomley (EUW)
: It was just to clarify things.
Well, while I apreciate your attempt to help, I got to say that it resembles exactly what I tried to say within this threat. I am playing the game to improve my own plays and while I can improve on matches like that, I am sorry but I am unable to fill out a somehow missing player.
Doomley (EUW)
: >But to point out what I am saying is that playing high risk high reward plays in bad situations like 2v4 on drake, baron or turrets can result in a bad KDA. So I am aware, that in a better environment I would take less risks but playing less influential isn´t working in silver anymore. I just want to point out that you don't have to take bug risks in silver. The enemies are silver too which means they will make a lot of mistakes which you can punish without risks and then make a comeback happen.
: you inted urself. you fed yourself. you trolled yourself. so whats ur point? ur blaming others when you're doing the same.
i´d take 55-60% win rate trolls and inter every day. nice objection.
: you go with the mid swain build as a top laner, when you play against other tanks, you start losing but you dont build defensive items like {{item:3065}} or {{item:3157}} most of the times, you prolly play agressive and you die.... you die by yourself ur team dying in other lanes doesnt matter anything to you. you're in TOP lane a SOLO lane if you die its all your fault. if your MID laner dies it makes the enemy MID laner FED, not your enemy TOP laner.
Doomley (EUW)
: >5-10-11 swain was after xin and me gave shen a double in minute 4, but xin popped off and i managed to deal most dmg anyways No one cares if you deal most damage in this particular case. You are swain. A lane bully that can easily top the damage charts without actually doing anything and a lot of aoe damage that doesn't even need to be aimed. Your damage basically comes out of your butt which means the damage done isn't an indicator of anything when talking about swain. It would actually be more concerning if you didn't top the charts.
Again. You got me on that one. I can play that match better. But what does that have to say in the original topic?
GLurch (EUW)
: I insulted you? Sorry, but where? You tried pointing out the mistakes of your teammates, so isn't it just fair that your mistakes get pointed out as well? --- >your arguing is wasted on the last 2 matches since we played both matches 4v5 and tried to fight it instead of /ff If you wanted to actually achieve something, contesting the enemy constantly won't bring you anywhere. If you played save and farmed instead of fighting, you would have had the highest chance of winning.
I am not the kind of guy that doesn´t admit wrongdoing. But come on you took the worst matches to prove that point. Again: the matches were 4v5 so you can´t really tell how to improve my game on these
Doomley (EUW)
: >a) are not the tank and depend on your team to follow you Neither are you judging from the way you build swain. >b) you might be the better player That is clear without anyone saying it. This is also one of the points. Skill matters. Don't blame your losses on the team when you aren't doing any better. >c) you might be the one just staying out of the fight to sneak some kills ? not the case. >d) you are the kind of player surrendering at minute 15 ? I don't surrender. >i did never say that i didn´t lost any of my past 20 games! learn to distinguish between 2 different topics m8 And what does this have to do with anything???? No one claimed that you said you didn't lose any games. Where the hell did you even get that from? Maybe it's you who needs to learn to distinguish something?
To get this straight, you say that I should improve on my KDA and there is nothing wrong with that. That´s totally what I am playing ranked for. But to point out what I am saying is that playing high risk high reward plays in bad situations like 2v4 on drake, baron or turrets can result in a bad KDA. So I am aware, that in a better environment I would take less risks but playing less influential isn´t working in silver anymore.
GLurch (EUW)
: >swain was after xin and me gave shen a double in minute 4, but xin popped off and i managed to deal most dmg anyways Play it save if you're behind. If you were behind and managed to go 5/10, it's a clear indication you kept engaging the enemy, although you couldn't really contest them. >swain was due to a fking 3 tear kassadin (troll) Kassadin seems to have mainly fed his own lane opponent. Since you were 1/4 and your lane opponent 4/0, this suggests YOU lost your lane. Kassadin has nothing to do with that. You did your share of misplays, focusing on what your team did wrong and letting it overshade your own mistakes won't get you anywhere. >swain was due to ivern second jungler (troll) You went 1/8, your lane opponent 8/3. This once again suggests you lost your own lane pretty heavily. That has nothing to do with the double jungle. Focusing on what they did wrong will once again not get you anywhere. Instead you should focus on how you can improve yourself to avoid losing your lane in the future.
Now that´s just dumb try harding on insulting me. your arguing is wasted on the last 2 matches since we played both matches 4v5 and tried to fight it instead of /ff the other one was a win i might have been able to play better.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: And how many did u gain due to same thing in enemy team?
JamesIAm (EUW)
: I'm not questioning why you're tilted, nor saying that I wouldn't be tilted if I was in the same situation. I'm simply suggesting you take a break from ranked to stop yourself getting more tilted.
Might be the best idea, but I kind of just want to get riot to start reducing the rate of toxic games. not in a offensive language way, but in a game ruining way. since the game can be fun at times.
Doomley (EUW)
: I'm just gonna throw this out there, but 18 deaths doesn't come from your team being bad. It's completely on your head. In great majority of your losses in the past 20 games of ranked, your KDA is less than 1. It doesn't matter what your teammates do. You can't have those kind of stats. There are games where you can't do anything about it but if you have those stats in majority of your games, that is on you. We all have trolls and afkers every now and then but even if i have those kind of players, you can't see me having the same type of atrocious stats as you do when you lose.
that is either because you a) are not the tank and depend on your team to follow you b) you might be the better player c) you might be the one just staying out of the fight to sneak some kills ? d) you are the kind of player surrendering at minute 15 ? i did never say that i didn´t lost any of my past 20 games! learn to distinguish between 2 different topics m8
GLurch (EUW)
: You can't deny you are never feeding. In fact, you are actually feeding in most of your ranked games. Here are just a few examples: http://i.imgur.com/hdWriKI.png http://i.imgur.com/bpEqn8A.png http://i.imgur.com/ixqceno.png http://i.imgur.com/rI06BA8.png Blaming your team won't get you anywhere.
I am aware that i am not flawless and that I have matches that I lose which is why i am silver at the moment. I am just here to say, that my win and loss rate is influenced by bm. 3-12-9 swain wasn´t a good match 5-10-11 swain was after xin and me gave shen a double in minute 4, but xin popped off and i managed to deal most dmg anyways 1-4-2 swain was due to a fking 3 tear kassadin (troll) 1-8-6 swain was due to ivern second jungler (troll) so like the guy trying to pick on stats before you thanks for proving my point
Coopa123 (EUW)
: Statistically more than he lost
Maybe. but I am here to draw attention towards the rate of games ruined by those people. So make fun as much as you want, there is still a part of the community deserving to get detention from ruining games.
: Well life is a f@@ker sometimes.
Haxoor (EUNE)
: ***
sure there are matchups in my history i lost. but who doesn´t. and now that you point it out, the 6 - 18 - 8 match was exactly the same. i tried to defend turrets and took more risky fights which we lost due to 4v5 but people don´t care about objectives stats are the only thing that matters nowadays
GLurch (EUW)
: Here is a simple solution for you: Stop trolling, feeding (Btw in every match you lose you will have a feeder, because it seems quite contradictory to lose a match when everyone in your team had a good score. This one is also 100% true and applies to you, even if not always), intentionally feeding and going afk.
well, for starters i am not the one feeding and trolling. i am the one that tries to play somewhat reasonable, but taking risky fights when being behind which leads to having less of a flawless score.
JamesIAm (EUW)
: I'm sorry dude that sucks. Looking through your match history you seem a bit tilted at the moment :/ As someone who tilts easily, I might consider giving ranked a rest for a couple of days. Get a couple of long nights sleep and come back to it fresh.
sure but who wouldn´t tilt not getting any response on having lost that much due to bm
Coopa123 (EUW)
: 1-8-6 Swain -> Troll team 1-4-2 Swain -> Troll team 2-11-5 Darius -> Troll team 3-12-9 Swain -> Troll team 6-18-8 Swain -> Troll team 2-12-6 Swain -> Troll team Man ... always these troll teams that make you play worse. It's unbelievable how a team of intentional feeders make you feed more than them. Listen buddy. Instead of crying about your teammates you should begin to realize that it's your fault and that you're bad at the game. You won't improve until you do that.
did you watch anymore than those stats? man you really are part of this community. i´m gonna go give you the feedback 1-8-6 swain was due to ivern second jungler (troll) 1-4-2 swain was due to a fking 3 tear kassadin (troll) 2-11-5 darius was a normal duoing with my level 13 friend vs rank 12 in 3v3 3-12-9 swain wasn´t a good match 6-18-8 swain was because mf was the person getting kills and left us fighting 4v5 all the time 2-12-6 swain i got shit on by ekko to be fair. but w.e. you only prove my point tx bud
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0tx (EUW)
: is there a time in the day when you search for a game and not get trolls/feeders/assholes?
No. They mostly turn into AFKlers at some point. Also I don´t get any Instant Feedback for any of the 4 Games somebody deserved to be at least temporarily banned. tx rito
: I tried to help you by warning not to waste IP on runes since a new system is here very soon and you are rude to me for no reason? You are the type of people who makes League community toxic. Uninstall then ungrateful kid for all I care.
first of all you picked one of a few arguments second you didn´t take the time to see if anyone wrote what you wrote (hint almost everybody did) third if you use the mouse over funktion on my name you will see that i am level 30 and here since season 2
: Hmmmm... See it as a way of learning the game progressively instead of having all of it thrown at your face as soon as you enter the game. BTW when I was below level 30, I never saw ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE above bronze 4, let alone Challenger, that's way too big a difference. I've recently seen ex-diamonds on my games, but they were platinum. In any case, the mastery situation is simple, its designed to take it slowly, so you can learn it thoroughly. The runes system however, is designed in a way for you to understand stat optimization for certain builds. Well, at least this is how I think they did it.
yes, and back in the day where you had bigger growths in the community and more people were leveling on their own or with friends it worked out. but we have different times now. people level smurfs level and people level queuing with friends. it´s hard to balance that out i get that but having less stats, less experience and less talents makes up for a bad ux.
: Hmmmm... See it as a way of learning the game progressively instead of having all of it thrown at your face as soon as you enter the game. BTW when I was below level 30, I never saw ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE above bronze 4, let alone Challenger, that's way too big a difference. I've recently seen ex-diamonds on my games, but they were platinum. In any case, the mastery situation is simple, its designed to take it slowly, so you can learn it thoroughly. The runes system however, is designed in a way for you to understand stat optimization for certain builds. Well, at least this is how I think they did it.
Hopy (EUW)
: To be honest, there's like a million tutorial videos for League on Youtube that are made specifically for complete newbies. However, they still have to have enough interest in the game to be able to afford their runes. But it's kinda silly to make them cost something anyway because nobody buys those for RP, so they just drive away players with that system.
that´s what i am talking about. i am just not upset about the pricing, but about not being able to use them and to be honest how is using 5 runes easier to understand then using 30 of them.
: just buy the lv 2 runes for 1 IP each in november comes the new rune system and everything will be free.
got me m8 didn´t know i can buy lv 2 keystone masterys. ans lv 2 slots for runes.
: Nah. Level up and earn them. Just like everybody else. Learn the game in the process, so you will have a better understand of where the rune and masteries will good etc. It doesn't take long before you get enough IP to buy runes. You can even buy boosts for IP. I know i did that when i started out.
sure thing bud. just gonna buy the keystone masterys for next game.
Doomley (EUW)
: yes but you logic behind this reasoning is flawed. This is a point where new players have just started their league experience and are still learning. you can't make tactical decisions in a game that you don't know anything about yet. Take summit1g as an example. He is level 30 and still hasn't played with or against every champion in the game and he knows nothing about those champions. It's impossible to try to strategize when you don't have enough information. Sure every smurf would love to have the runes from the start but it might not be ideal to add that kind of requirement for new players.
which is why i recommended not having to set up entire rune pages but to go for one of 3 standard rune sets and at least having to chose between keystone masteries since the game is balanced for higher stats. also since you get matched with level 30 enemies you get into more disadvantage not having those stats than you have figuring out which ones are good and which ones not so much.
Doomley (EUW)
: > I don't think they'd make you 'unlock' them by leveling up as that's negates their entire reasoning for making them free in the first place. It doesn't. They can make them like masteries and rune pages are right now. You unlock the slots for the pages by leveling up. This way you are being introduced to the system better if you are a new player. The runes themselves can be available from the start but the slots might not be. It's just about how riot wants to introduce new players to the rune system.
My opinion on having to unlock runes / rune slots is, that these are vital elements of gameplay and there are different types of players. there are players that like to experiment with runes and items rather than competeing on a mechanical level. I have been one of those players from the start and I am here to point out that lol is a game about tactics as much as about mechanics and denying more tactical players to get an advantage of that is plain bad for the game. all runes / masteries on every level.
: Don't forget that a lot of new players don't even try to last hit , even some (bronze) players with hundreds of games don't even try to last hit Early levels are tailored for new players , they weren't intended for smurfs , you're a decent player so ofc you won't see the problem with having runes , but having too many choices can have a negative impact , specially right when you start New players need time to learn and you seem to have forgotten that, ridiculous or not it's not something that should concern you since you're not a new player
1) I´d rather have the option to chose the wrong talents instead of none 2) you get matched against anything between level 1 and challenger top 1 so why would you give low levlers the huge disadvantage of not having keystone masteries which they are most definetely playing against.
Nakoruru (EUNE)
: You can buy tier 2 runes. Each rune costs 1 IP. They are not that good at the tier 3 ones, but you don't have to start from the bottom.
sure, but being able to use one at a time is, what this threat is about.
: >Tittle Similar to how having access to too many champs (free champs) to learn the game can be overbearing I believe having to choose between all those different champs , and then having to pick a set of runes and masteries would just be too much to handle when trying to learn the game Playing with and against the same 10 champs at first is probably the best way to introduce new players to the game
this is ridiculis and you know that. having to chose one skill at a time is a thing i am overwhelmed with. again : the game is supposed to be played with runes and masteries and is balanced for that. not having them in early levels is a completely different game. you have a by far worse experience trying to last hit with 0 ad. Edit: it´s like having to play soccer without any boots or clothing since it might overwhelm you.
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