The Hero Simon
(EUW)
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Hm.. I think you need some dots and comas in there... Like it's pretty hard to understand, unless you make the sentence shorter..
'dots or comas' XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


Almighty SnowFox
(EUW)
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Leaving champ select because I don't ban a champion
I think it should stay. Reduces the chance of drunk & non alert monkeys to int in your games.


Febos
(EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Etérnum,realm=EUW,applicationid=39gqIYVI,discussionid=EqJt8vc3,commentid=00020000,timestamp=20180215T05:43:29.439+0000)
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> I counted all the champs must have accidentally added a champ or something. Are you sure 516552 is right? Btw I don't understand where you got 516552 from.
All champions add up to 543150 BE. That I'm 100% sure. Count them [here](http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions).
Then, based on [this image](https://imgur.com/SLoCB0f), we should have 26598 BE just from leveling to level 30 (not counting FWs), but 5700 of that is on the 3 free champions (Ashe, Garen and Brand) so, instead, we only get 20898 raw BE.
After this you can do it both ways:
 Subtract 26598 from 543150
 Subtract 450 + 450 + 4800 + 20898 from 543150
Either way the answer is 516552. Did you get a higher value?
I got 543300 instead of 543150 for champ total exclusing ashe brand & garen. Probably went wrong somewhere.


Player3Th0mas
(EUW)
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Did you take in cosideration that all champion shards are cheaper than the champs in the store?
> [{quoted}](name=Etérnum,realm=EUW,applicationid=39gqIYVI,discussionid=EqJt8vc3,commentid=,timestamp=20180215T03:06:12.738+0000)
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> you will be able to buy all the champions assuming you&#039;ve disenchanted all your shards


Cheini
(EUNE)
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aside from the first 30 levels, you get 9x~1000 + ~2120 be = ~11120 per 10 levels
1 > 30 is 26 600 be
516 700 / 11 120 = ~46.5
30 + 46.5x10 = 495 level
enjoy :p
okay yes there might be gorious capsules for milestone levels like lvl 75 but im not sure if they drop past it, and does it really matter? :d
Are all the champs ( ashe, garen, brand) 516,700 for sure? I cba counting them all again.


Febos
(EUW)
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You're way off friend.
First, the BE needed to unlock (not craft) all champions is 537450 BE (same assumption). From level 1 to 30 we get 20898 BE, based on [this image](https://i.imgur.com/SLoCB0f.png). We can knock that number down to 516552 BE.
I must ask, how many champions of each (6300, 4800, etc) are you counting?
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For each "normal" level you'll earn, on average, 928 BE (based on drop rates). Every 10th level you'll get 2120 BE.
That means for every 10 levels you should have 10472 BE, or 1047,2 BE per level (if acounting for every 10th).
Now it's just dividing: 516552/1047,2 = 494 levels.
There are multiple things missing here, eg the BE for every First Win (FW). It's also missing larger milestones, eg 100th level, because I don't know from memory what those give.
The first one is easy. Say you'll need on average 10 games per level up, playing 2 games for each FW. That means you get extra 250 BE for level up. That drops the number down to 399 levels.
I don't recall exactly how many games are need, but let's go with an extreme. Say you need **14 games** per level up, still playing 2 games for each FW. That's 350 BE extra, which drops the number down to 370 levels.
In reality, the average player plays more than 2 games per FW. It's closer to 4 games per FW. Also, the **10 games per level up** is a fair estimate for this case. That said, the numbers of levels needed to unlock (not craft) everything, starting at 30, is at least 440.
I can even tell you how many hours of gametime that is. My calculations are based on the assumption the average game lasts ~30 minutes. With that in mind, it should look something like at least 2200 hours.
When you think about it, that number is very similar to what it was before.
Currently I have clocked in ~2500 hours and I'm only missing a few champions (17). I also spent quite a few IP on Runes (10k+), Rune Pages (12600), Summoner Name Change (13900) and Icons (10k+ shame).
I counted all the champs must have accidentally added a champ or something. Are you sure 516552 is right? Also the calculation is assuming you don't get the extra mission BE. Btw I don't understand where you got 516552 from.


Grendel G
(EUNE)
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Average BE you get per level up is 960, spread the milestones all over the place and you and up with like 1100 BE (This is just estimation). That means that in 127 levels you get like what? 139700 BE? That's done with getting 1100BE for the first 30 levels as well, which is wrong. We know for a fact you get exactly 26598 BE for the first 30 levels. so that's 13970026598 = 113K BE for 127 levels.
Here's a more detailed post about how many levels, BE and time is required to unlock all champions (Assuming the worst)
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplaybalance/Y3sEWQKAanewplayerwillhavetogettolevel322inordertogetallchampions
According to the wiki there's a luck factor in the first 30 levels so it's not exactly 26598 100% of the time, unless the wiki is wrong. Recalculated & got 519 though, more realistic.


Pyrosen
(EUW)
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127 is for sure too short, I'm Level 90 and I own maybe 1/4th of the champs available and all I do is buy champs lol
You didn't start from level 1 though, but yeah my calculations are off.


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