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Stinklolz (EUW)
: hey man, first of all, my keyboard is broken and can't use capslock. sorry about that. i'm not a pro by any stretch of the imagination but hopefully someone elses take on the situation will be beneficial. the first thing i noticed is when he flashed you shuld have followed with your flash. the valor proc from your e with slow should have been enough damage to kill him. i think what would be more important though is that when he backs you should push the wave fast to his tower, further denying him exp and cs whilst increasing yours. i hope this helps
Hey, appreciate your response. 2 things though: 1. I would need a proc to kill him, yes, but I just used both Q and E, not sure my passive was up, I suspect not. So even if I could flash in range, which I am not sure of, I had no way of killing him, so saving my flash there was definitely right. 2. this I am very much in doubt about. It is the usual thing, yes, but before i put some points into Q I basically have no waveclear, so pushing it all the way from my tower to his seems very unlikely, but I am not totally sure. Though you may be right, even if he got back to lane by the time my minions hit his tower, I should have time to get back before he pushed it back. Assuming he did not freeze on me. {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
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Zualiun (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=FluffyPidgeon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Fm8WncF3,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-26T00:35:08.546+0000) > > huh. I don't ever think you will be informed in any way, but I am now certain a conspiracy is behind it all! Just looked at your scores, and saw that they are really good, you should be able to eventually break free from this curse, wish you the best of luck in future games!
ha, thanks, but that is only because I ahve played few games. Whenever I go over 10 games on a champ I start feeding :P
Zualiun (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=FluffyPidgeon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Fm8WncF3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-25T22:56:12.520+0000) > > I genuinely believe Riot is simply running experiments on random (selected...?) players and cross reference the data with their report system. Twice in a row my rankeds have been like this: I play average, but all in all get carried to my promos for Silver II. Lose promos with 1 win and 2 losses. Few games later I am in promos again, win them. Now, the next 6 (!) games EVERY ONE OF MY TEAM MATES ARE FEEDING. Not like "well, midlane gave Zed a kill and he roamed", nope, every lane single handedly fed their opponent and lost their lane. hard. 6 games in a row. So I demoted to Silver III again. > > Again, all this happened twice in a row, _almost_ as if it was scripted by someone... somewhere... > > And I'm not saying I deserved to win any of those 6 games, but I am saying there is an all too clear pattern emerging. I had exactly the same thing but 3 times in a row, makes me question myself. Sometimes I think Riot is pranking my account and that ill soon get a mail that I was getting pranked by them for an experiment on how players would react to this, sounds crazy but yeah its just a thought.
huh. I don't ever think you will be informed in any way, but I am now certain a conspiracy is behind it all!
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Kian987 (EUW)
: Funny people
well, TO BE FAIR, why were you not playing Kayle and using exp cheat to get level 6 after first buff, so you can head straight top and save your laner? Seems like your fault to me. Also, it is just rude to take kills from people that want them a screen away! Have you no manners?!?!?
Zualiun (EUW)
: Feeding teams lately
I genuinely believe Riot is simply running experiments on random (selected...?) players and cross reference the data with their report system. Twice in a row my rankeds have been like this: I play average, but all in all get carried to my promos for Silver II. Lose promos with 1 win and 2 losses. Few games later I am in promos again, win them. Now, the next 6 (!) games EVERY ONE OF MY TEAM MATES ARE FEEDING. Not like "well, midlane gave Zed a kill and he roamed", nope, every lane single handedly fed their opponent and lost their lane. hard. 6 games in a row. So I demoted to Silver III again. Again, all this happened twice in a row, _almost_ as if it was scripted by someone... somewhere... And I'm not saying I deserved to win any of those 6 games, but I am saying there is an all too clear pattern emerging.
UltraY (EUW)
: we need a new skin for shaco
We need nothing that encourages more people to play him. Case closed.
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: Tip for you, before he ults ping him, the ping stays on the real shaco, helps to shut down his kit, im a lee one trick and this helps to kill him mid game a lot
This is interesting. How long does the ping thingy last for?
QancerClown (EUNE)
: You can just ward his camps. As a shaco main i consider it annoying. Control wards are also a good thing to counter shaco as well as some champions that can counter him. Additionally you can just buy a little bit of armor and he is pretty much dead. GA is quite good, because if he kills you, he is dead and you will be revived. Also randuin's omen is good, because it gives you both armor and critical strike reduction and shaco's backstab is a crit, also some Shaco's go IE. I think that Shaco isn't even op. If they nerf him they are stupid. Graves and kha zix are op. 1v1 vs kha zix is almost imposible to win. To win 1v1 as shaco vs kha I had to put 3 boxes and assassinate him and I almost died. Invading Shaco on lvl 1 is a good thing also, because he has to put his boxes. I know that maokai's sapplings were proxing the boxes but idk if they still do. On level 1 in low elo Shaco is probably alone with his boxes so it is a free kill. There are 2 routes that I take and consider good at Shaco. First is 2 boxes on blue, 1 on grump and 1 on wolfs or scuttle. The 2nd route is 2 boxes on red, 2 on krugs and scuttle after that. I hope it helps. {{champion:35}}
thanks for the tips, the Randiuns thing is useful, and the invading. Though the big problem is that he can have no interaction with me whatsoever, and when mid game comes he is just fed enough to one-shot me and get away before team kill him. By this point I barely have my 2 items for damage, building Randuins seems sketchy. Not to mention the lack of team work and awarenss of invis champs etc. here in Silver. The "buy a littel bit of armor" thing, though... Last game I ws Xayah with 124 armor, he opened on em and did 75% of my health in a second... Didn't die directly, but no way to survive his team with range after that. The infuriating thing about him is that he may be weaker than Kha in 1v1, but if he does not show on the opposite side of the map or tries to kill someone else I am Shröedingers ADC until he shows.
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: If asking them nicely is the problem, then ask them very rudely.
huh. In a twisted way that might actually work! {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
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: How is taking Lee + Eve bot trolling? Sure it's unconventional, but I wouldn't assume malice right away.
in a ranked game, when you are Silver, hence you suck and will definitely lose to a conventional botlane, then you troll. Have you practiced it extensively in normals, finding succes, and then going in? Sure, but they hadn't. Checked op.gg
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Rismosch (EUW)
: Context?
Junglers not ganking top because I asked them nicely.
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Luster24 (EUW)
: [Concept] Banning keystones
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: Your Q is longer range than her R, thus if she ever walks towards you you can shield preemptively in order to deter her or if she does go on you to protect yourself.
So never ever get back line cs?
: If you use a targeted ability out of range then it will move your character into range to try and use it.
so why does she move into their face (100 units or so) when the ability has 600 range?
Kitsu (EUW)
: {{champion:84}} is quite off meta at the moment because how easy you can poke her or nuke her with a squishy mage (thanks runes reforged and co.) If you harass her enough at early game, she can't keep up with her sustain only, and she'll have to back and buy potions, and lose cs. You can also buy defensive items before she get {{item:3145}} or {{item:3146}}, so she'll have a really hard time to kill you. Despite being an assassin, It takes a longer time to get a kill with akali than most other ones, so unless you're pretty low hp (in this case you're making a huge mistake), she can't really dive under your tower like {{champion:7}} or {{champion:238}} do. If you struggle laning against her, sometimes hugging tower is the best solution, better than feeding. Remember, a 0/0/0 {{champion:61}} at min 20 is more useful than a 0/0/0 {{champion:84}} (or almost every other assassin). A tip with {{champion:84}} is to wait a few seconds after landing a mark on the opponent, then dash, proc the mark with AA, and immediately after, landing another mark as the Qspell cooldown has refresh, and proc again with AA. If you know that, you can prevent her from maximizing her burst, and she won't be as much as a threat as you thought. If you dont give her kills 1v1 then you have done your job. Now she'll try to get her meal on other lanes. When you're doing well against her you can push the lane (watch out for enemy ganks), as she's not a very good pusher she'll get constant pressure and it will be difficult for her to roam without losing a lot of farm or the outer mid Turret.
what defensive items do I buy? Considering she not only does magic damage and I need mana to be able to stay in lane, unlike her (boy, giving an assassin endless sustain was a great idea). And staying under tower never worked for me. Yes, I don't die, but she takes tower from sheer minion pressure, and she outfarms me since I have to farm under tower. I know how to farm full health minions under it, but between her slow-ish push and my own minions coming in the meantime many minions just die form 1 tower shot before I can do enough damage myself. And just how does her going bot getting a double kill, instead of a single one on me, make it better? Seriously, no one in my elo looks at the map or care about pings, so they don't ever back off, and I have yet to see a support stopping an assassin from killing our ADC by more than sheer luck. Oh, and ofc it is my fault that I don't just burst her out of lane every time, not theirs for being asshats
: Have the ball on yourself, as soon as she tries to dash on you you can just ult her
I seriously have a hard time seeing this working. So I never ever use my Q to farm, meaning I am always in range for her to dash on me when I want to farm. And then I would have to rely on my combo doing more damage than hers, also given her kit does more damage than mine early. And if I ever use Q to farm, she goes on me before I can shield myself, then I ult and then what?
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: Depends on what kind of squishy, mages should have fairly easy time by just ccing her and then nuking her with combos.
at what point does, say, Orianna nuke Akali, before she ults to you and kills you? Don't see you lading your own ult, ever
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: It’s not enough to just deny farm... that’s going to let him just catch up later on. Instead you’ve got to get a tangible lead on him and translate that lead into something that can end the game... harassing and killing nasus is a good start, that will give you something over him which can be used to get something on the map, if not a good tp gank can secure a lead for your bot lane as well as potentially first tower and/or dragon... get advantages elsewhere on the map so that your team is ahead of theirs significantly. Do that well enough and your going to handicap nasus, he can’t safely afk farm without his team losing too much, and if you’ve done it well enough your team will be far enough ahead to prevent him from solo carrying... and if nasus tries to split push your team can win the 4v4 meaning you can just keep nasus in the side lane. So fighting nasus in large part comes from fighting around him not fighting him directly... he will outscale and he will be able to kill you no matter what you do... but if you make the environment of the game one which nasus can’t actually use that power by setting up the rest of the team for success and taking objectives around nasus as he generally won’t go to try and prevent this will give you exactly what your team needs... the ability to fight nasus’s team while he is gone, and the ability to at least stand against nasus if need be... So that’s the truth in a nasus top lane... your not going to be the one carrying as you’ve got your hands full... so you’ve got to use any opportunity you have to get the people who will carry you to where they need to be
Thing is this doesn't work. Not in my elo anyways. If Nasus gets to free stack he gets to kill my team, since they are stupid enough to a) 1v1 him, and b) are not good enought to get and push an actual lead in other lanes, rendering his split push useless.
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Febos (EUW)
: Hello ~~Azir~~ FluffyPidgeon, Playing against Shaco isn't hard, but you can't control what your team does. That's the hard part. Against a coordinated team, Shaco falls dead flat. Here a few tips to play against Shaco: * Ward his jungle. One of the most important tips. Works for every jungler, but against Shaco is even better. Shaco relies on the element of surprise, so if you take that away from him, by following his every step, then you'll be safer. * Don't ward in "obvious" spots. Just like the point above, Shaco relies on the element of surprise. A good Shaco will avoid your wards, by assuming you placed them in usual places. This is nightmare for Mid and not so much Top, but even there you aren't safe: * Top -> If you are playing Red side, ward the entrace of Blue and place a control in your trybush (for the ward itself). If you are playing Blue side, ward the tribush behind your turret (the one after Gromp) because Shaco can gank from there; leave a control ward in your bush and ask your jungler to ward Scuttler (or kill it). * Mid -> Too many spots to list them all, but generally don't want to ward the entrace to the lane because he'll jump over it. Instead, ward the bush above the Red and the terrain above the entrace to the lane. Don't stick to a side. Keep changing where you place your ward and play around it. * Bot -> Much like top, but inverted. * After laning phase, be sure to have an Oracle because point 2 only works during laning phase. Whenever you are pushing for an objective, be sure to have your Oracle active and your carries protected. Shaco won't jump into your team because he can't escape if he does, unless he's fed. Don't waste your Oracle to clear wards. More often than not, low MMR doesn't make good use of their wards to begin with. To remove them just drop a control and save your Oracle for Shaco, unless you see him somewhere else. * **Never** roam alone. Seriously. Tell your ADC to **not** push "one more wave" when he's 50% HP because **Shaco will be there**, even if he has the support by its side. Shaco can, and will, win a 1v2 if the 2nd champion is the support. While on this point, be sure to ward **everywhere** you go. Are you going to take dragon? Ward his blue and river entrace, if you are Blue side, or ward his Red and Raptor bush, if you are Red side. Once again, Shaco relies on the element of surprise. If you can see him walking towards you, then you can bait him. * In a team fight, before he uses his R, you can "mark" him. Exhaust, Ignite, some champions abilities, etc, will leave a mark on the original and not the Clone. That's the best way to tell them apart. We, Shaco players, tend to learn how to distinguish the real from the fake because we know how we'd move. I suggest you watch some Shaco gameplay to understand the tricks he pulls off. In a general sense that will work, but a good Shaco player can, and will, trick you. Unless you mark them first. * Like with other AD assasins, you can "counter" Shaco by buying armour. Ninja Tabi is a good start. Shaco needs items to deal damage and buying defensive stats is more efficient, short term, than buying offensive. You only need to deny him the mid game. * You can "counter" Shaco during champion select. Just have your support pick a "Healer" if you see Shaco being picked on the other side. Champions like Janna, Lulu, Karma, etc, will do the trick. If your support is Brand, you better pray Shaco doesn't feed off Bot lane. If he does, you lose the game. * Generally, Shaco will gank the lane that can give **him** the most advantage. This is true for every jungler, but more for Shaco. He wants to be fed. Mid is a prime target for Shaco because it's so easy to gank. The best way to go about this is to never extend beyond the middle point of your lane. Once again, this is true for every jungler, but Shaco can appear out of nowhere to ruin your day. Be safe and stay near your turret. If you are low HP, recall. * Finally, the best way to play against Shaco is... don't play against him in the first place by banning him. Everyone on the team can ban 1 champion, including you. But where's the fun in that? :^) As you can see, it isn't that hard to play against Shaco. You just need to deny him the element of surprise and be resistant enough to his initial damage. He really doesn't have much damage in his kit, unlike Kha'Zix. All I said works against the "normal" Shaco. That means AD Jungle Shaco. If he's playing AP Top and he's an OTP, then you'd need different advices. If he's playing AP Jungle Shaco you've won the game automatically.
This is a very comprehensive, good and useful answer. Thanks {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} About the ban thing, I alwasy ban Kayn these days since he sucks most of the time on my team, and when he is on the enemy team he mor eoften than not doesn't gank my lane, but is 9/3 by 15 minutes and one-shots whoever he wants and escapes with ult and E every time... So yeah.
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: Matchmasking sucks monkey balls!
> If you are single go and %%%% ur self or find other low lifes to play it with you. But... I just can't seem to find anyone who wants me {{sticker:sg-janna}}
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Mìmo (EUNE)
: climb ? u mean rank? Few problems i have: - skip waiting for status (bug) few times i get this and cant reconnect on time and I got visit from leaver buster - Fps drops after every patch its worst - after new patch cant buy full items ({{item:3105}} {{item:1033}} =full price {{item:3190}} ) - toxic ppl / afks/flamers / feeders - and so many other .. I only play rank in last month before season ends and then i hit Gold and thats it , last season 25 wins G5 , its not really worth playing rank even if u can get higher its just not worth at least for me
Mìmo (EUNE)
: just trying hit 2 m MP on my main..{{sticker:sg-lulu}}
well, that seems like a hassle {{sticker:sg-zephyr}} . Why not climb while you do it?
: What if he likes playing different champions until he finds one that he really likes, hell i reached diamond just playing whatever i felt like. I dont really main anything. to this day i still dont have 100 games on one single champion for ranked, because i find it boring, and maybe so does he. He plays in silver, let the guy do what he wants, he is complaining about the matchmaking, which in the past even for ranked games was shown to be quite a bullshit one. If i'm playing normals and i go top, and i am with a gold/plat friend, i should face the one that is equally matched to me, not my gold adc who isnt even premade with me.
> If i'm playing normals and i go top, and i am with a gold/plat friend, i should face the one that is equally matched to me, not my gold adc who isnt even premade with me. Nice. This is my entire post in 1 sentence.
: Played against some high diamonds last night and we kinda stomped them during the lane fase. And I did it as a support with an silver adc. I was plat last season so maybe they didn't expect that but it was fun. We still lost because their only plat player got fed tho.
I don't mind going against Gold players in my games, that is just one division above me and is whatever, but 2 full divisions above me? That is not balanced in any way.
HdtvSK (EUW)
: You severely overestimate plat division, and even low diamond for that matter, they are not good at micro automatically. You probably just faced a Zed main, so i suggest you stop playing 100 different champions, or accept the fact you can't play a champion 10 times and expect to be any good at that champion. Given your division you probably need about 150 games on a champion to be mediocre at that champion, so go play stop complaining.
Ah, so divisions don't matter at all, B5 is equal to D5, the only real skill gaps start when you get to high Diamond and above? Please. According to his op.gg he has not played any Zed in ranked this season, so hardly a Zed main. I don't mind that he killed me as Zed, I suck vs the champion in general, but assuming equal mecahnical skill on our respective champions he still has game knowledge wayy beyond mine, so why the %%%% should he be in my game? I am not suggesting I am, or should be, good at my champion, Diana that game, so that has nothing to do with my post.
iSneez (EUNE)
: What are you talking about ? You want RIOT to "fix" the normals MMR and you are talking about Ranked divisions of players you meet in normal games ? What a platinum, diamond master etc division in rank has anything to do with your normal games ? Each que has its own division, and even if the normal games division (mmr, elo, whatever you want to call it) it's hidden doesn't mean it's not there. That High elo ranked players you meet in normal games they have your mmr in the normal witch has nothing to do with their ranked mmr. Also you claim you want to improve, if you want to improve why you don't enjoy a free 1 on 1 lesson from a more skilled and better player then you ? Instead of being frustrated that he destroy you, you should be happy you had a better player to learn from. You can study how he farm how and when he harass you, how he engage on you, why he kill you and how, how and when he roam how he manage the waves before he recall etc. Improving its when you face better players not if you stomp worse players then you or you face equal players. Then go play with bots and you win easy all time, that's improvement ?
phew, where to begin... > What a platinum, diamond master etc division in rank has anything to do with your normal games ? Assuming neither of us are going into the game with our main champion, which we have 5000+ games on and know every single matchup, he has 2 full divions on me of overall mechanical skill and game knowledge. That is a huge gap in capabilities. Like a body builder arm wrestling with someone who just started working out. Sure, it is not his forte, but he still has quite the advantage. > Each que has its own division, and even if the normal games division (mmr, elo, whatever you want to call it) it's hidden doesn't mean it's not there. That High elo ranked players you meet in normal games they have your mmr in the normal witch has nothing to do with their ranked mmr. This is true and I am well aware of it, which you would know if you read my post, so totally irrelevant. > Also you claim you want to improve, if you want to improve why you don't enjoy a free 1 on 1 lesson from a more skilled and better player then you ? Yeah, my first death was enjoyable. He hit level 2 when we were both in the middle of the wave, and I know that was because he knew when his minions would die, and they would before mine. Totally my bad, and I know not be careless about that in into an assassin matchup with ignite. After this, though, there is no learning experience. He pushes his lead, so if I am in lane I am dead, even under tower. He plays Zed, so he roams to my botlane, who are also Silver, and hence have the map awareness of a headless mole, and obviously blames me for not pinging missing, when I did. He singlehandedly won the game by exploiting my stupid team mates (All Silvers are stupid, me included, red.) and my one misplay lead to that. So 1 minute of learning, 24 of waiting for the game to end. Good ratio. > Improving its when you face better players not if you stomp worse players then you or you face equal players. You learn nothing from a stomp, you learn from playing against someone better than you, the "Oh, you die if you leave fountain" is a lesson I have already learnt many times over. This is all there is to it, when you are low elo, you are not a tank, and the enemy assassin gets fed. So yeah, think next time you react to a post, please :)
Mìmo (EUNE)
: U are lucky when u get Plat 2 , i had Master in enemy team and now Diam 5/4 almost every 3rd game.. so boring even if u win lane they deal still dmg like they are fed , enemy adc 2-6 more dmg then my adc 5-1 .. its not rly fun and if I have Diam or Plat in my team they play like bronze or let say like first time {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Yeah, that seems very tilting. When you are both not playing as seriously as you should in ranked, with your most played champions and such, the skill gap is just sooo huge.. Takes the fun right out of it :/
: Hey, happens, but more often than not it... You know, doesn't. I do agree that ranked mmr should affect normal mmr, but with something that's such a rare occurrence...
True, it doesn't happen very often, but when it does it is so tilting and game is practically over when it starts, simply because that one person carries the %%%% out of the team he is on. I find it to be an extremely bad policy to say "most games are balanced, so it is okay", instead of taking steps to make every game balanced, or at least making sure games are not so extremely scewed.
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: try to farm around minions no into them and try to freeze the lane in front of your turrent . try to poke him from angles and not directly while your out side of yasuo q e . try to kill him when his 3rd q fall and Show him how drunk he is {{champion:157}}
> try to farm around minions no into them Do you mean stand next to minions? If yes, how do I do it in a way that he cannot just dash onto me? > try to poke him from angles and not directly while your out side of yasuo q e . What angles? > try to kill him when his 3 fall and Show him how drunk he is This means walking up, walking up means him jumping on me and killing me before I can kill him, so no
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