: Hello I think there is a mistake
If you believe to have received an unjust punishment, I advise you to contact the Riot Support (if you didn't already): https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new They have way more insight on cases than anyone in the community here could have and they are also the only people with the power to revert your ban.
Aloneylas (EUW)
: Lol Skin Mod
On the Turkish server, they started punishing for using this program and while there is no statement that it's getting punished in EUW yet, these kinds of programs were always a gray area. This means that while Riot Games does not actively punish for it at the moment, they could change their stance on it at any moment. So if you want to play it completely save, don't use any 3rd party programs like the one you mentioned.
Etarga3ut (EUW)
: You can also look it like this and please hear me out. Everyone needs a slap on the wrist sometimes. So if you play with someone that respects and fears you they will try harder. If people know that you are a pushover and that you will not flame ,people will stop respecting you and will not put some effort in the game. Look at tarzaned look at almost all the lcs pro players. I have found some evidence from back in the days. These players had the reputation of "ow shit if i don't bring my A game this person will flame and insult me so I better try"
Right, that may work among high elo players, who are used to each other, all know each other already because they appear in each others games all the time and who are also used to giving every game their best like they are in a tournament or whatever, but if you meet a random person, you aren't going to know what they expect of you. They will just randomly start screaming at you and at least for me, that's not really motivating. At most, it makes me want to annoy them even more, or just completely block them.
Etarga3ut (EUW)
: riot says that being toxic makes u lose more games
Not all Challengers are toxic, but that aside, just because there are a few exceptions to a statistic doesn't mean the rest of it is wrong. Yes, there are some skilled people who are still toxic, but unless you're really skilled, being toxic will make you lose more games and I think it's quite obvious why: You're tilting your team, making them lose focus, lose your own focus, pay most of your and your teams attention to the chat, destroy any kind of teamplay and communication you may have had with your team and so on.
Cypherous (EUW)
: > At all hours is just... impossible. No one is going to be around at 3 am, except for some people (like me) during weekends, but that's it. If only there were these things called "countries" that had people who lived in different timezones who were awake at 3am EU time, but that is just nonsense because as we all know the earth is a flat disc made up of a singe country and timezone I hope i don't need to add /sarcasm So yeah you make sure you're recruiting people from across the entire span of timezones, just like the mod team i worked with did nearly a decade ago, i mean if we managed to work this out back then.... > There's a lot of bad stuff you could do with moderation permissions, so it's not like we could just recruit anyone and instantly give them these rights as long as they can be active during these times. Hence why the volunteer system is infact a terrible idea in most cases, in this instance you would need to actually outsource it, but riot isn't willing to spend the required money and effort involved because it just doesn't care enough
> If only there were these things called "countries" that had people who lived in different timezones who were awake at 3am EU time, but that is just nonsense because as we all know the earth is a flat disc made up of a singe country and timezone > > I hope i don't need to add /sarcasm > > So yeah you make sure you're recruiting people from across the entire span of timezones, just like the mod team i worked with did nearly a decade ago, i mean if we managed to work this out back then.... I already mentioned this in my comment before that: "To have someone around at these times, especially during the week, there'd need to be people from the other side of the world, but next to no one from Australia or NA plays on EUW and even more so uses the Boards (when they have their own Boards that are just as good as well). And even if there may be one person that does fit that description, they aren't going to be really active, have a clean slate and fulfill all our other requirements." And I wasn't referring to the idea of paid moderators or anything, it won't happen. This was referring to us, we, the Volunteers. We have OCE Volunteers, but they're busy with their own boards. We can't possibly ask them to moderate our boards as well, not to mention the other subregions, like the german boards or czech boards (they likely don't speak german nor czech). So this isn't possible for us currently.
GLurch (EUW)
: I can't guarantee anything, I mean, if you get reported for telling someone to "slit their eyelids", you'll probably end up getting punished as well. It's just that if you say "My teammates last game told me to slit my eyelids", no one will be offended by that and you most likely won't get reported for it, so you also won't get punished for it.
Right, that may be in theory, but realistically, this happens next to never and like I said, in the rare case that one out of a billion players gets punished for it, they can simply contact the Riot Support and it'll be dealt with. First off, "fu ck" may at most give you a chat restriction (to jump to a 14 day ban, you need to write things such as "k y s" or "the n word", jumping to a permanent ban is even rarer). Second off, the system only counts the "fu ck"s you wrote during a game you got reported for. And last but not least, the system will ignore it if you just write "fu ck" once, you need to do it in multiple games that are not too far apart from each other. So, to get punished (with a chat restriction!) for writing "fu ck", you would most likely need to play like 30 games, in which all of them you'd need to spam "fu ck" AND get reported as well, in all of them. Yeah, that's just not realistic. And if you're going to spam "fu ck" during multiple games like that... what would be your intention to begin with? Of course, these numbers are estimates, but so is the fact that solely writing "fu ck" can result in a punishment. We know the system works with trigger words, but it could also be trigger sentences or trigger phrases. Maybe it filters out things like "fu ck me" or punishes specifically things like "fu ck you" instead of just "fu ck". We don't know the exact code of the IFS.
: It won't help. I sent a ticket today almost 5 hours ago and I still don't get a response. They say they are getting a lot of help needed right now, so they can't answer everyone. Well, they tried to help me yesterday but didn't succeed.
As I said, answers can take some time, but it's better than never getting a reply and I mean, there are other Supports where it takes weeks for them to answer.
Spearki (EUW)
: what if i wrote something like my team told me to slit my eyelids that in theory shouldn't get you banned as none of those should be in the ban list unless slit is? it might be?
I can't guarantee anything, I mean, if you get reported for telling someone to "slit their eyelids", you'll probably end up getting punished as well. It's just that if you say "My teammates last game told me to slit my eyelids", no one will be offended by that and you most likely won't get reported for it, so you also won't get punished for it.
Spearki (EUW)
: well if you write my team called me a noob last game and only that i dont think you would get banned for it but maybe where as if you calls others noob every game i think you would but who knows would be fun to test but to boring to play normals and lvl accs up to test that and dont wanna test it on lvl 30accs in case they dont get unbanned
Well, if you call others noobs every game, I'm sure you will eventually get punished for it, because I don't see any reason to do that in the first place. Even if "noob" means "beginner", if you call someone a noob, it's in most if not all cases supposed to be an insult, even if it's not the harshest one.
: HELP! League Client will NOT open!
I'm sorry I can't really help you out, but I doubt you'll really get a fast answer from someone who can either. Except for doing the things mentioned in articles by the Riot Support such as here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/224826367-Automated-Troubleshooting-Hextech-Repair-Tool or here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752664-Troubleshooting-Connection-Issues So the best people who could assist you with your issue are probably the people working at the Riot Support, you can send them a ticket here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Choose "Tech issues: Install, patch, lag, or crashes" as the category and tell them your problem and everything that you already tried. An answer by them may take some time, possibly even a few days, but they're probably the most reliable people. ######If someone here can actually help this person out, don't hesitate to do so, I'm just not able to and I don't really see a lot of other people who're able to either.
Spearki (EUW)
: Torpedosheeps comment is incorrect tho ( my main got banned in s5) and i didnt flame one single person on my team even saying the word noob is harder flame then i did. reason? i was negative got banned just purely from being depressed saying ff 20 and other negative things like my lane is over go ff dont wanna play i didn't use any ban listed word nor did i toward my negativity towards anyone else besides myself and still got banned purely from the reason of being negative. saying "You are a noob" will get you perma banned if you say it in enough games and in majority of your games and gets reported for it
I don't really see what Torpedo wrote that'd make a case such as yours impossible to happen. I don't think he ever denied that even slight negativity, if it happens consistently, can lead to a ban. He only said that it'll be harder than if you use a zero tolerance phrase and that the system may be able to detect context in that case. Although if I had to guess, I'd say it wouldn't detect context even there. That's nothing bad though, because under normal circumstances, no one would report for that if you aren't going to insult someone with it. And if the game only flags you rarely being slightly negative, the system will "forgive" that, just like it'd forgive someone who's always nice but is toxic for one game. That's the way the system more or less detects "context".
Cypherous (EUW)
: > I can assure you that we're aware that we aren't as fast with moderation as we used to be and I can also assure you we're looking to fix that issue. Inappropriate posts aren't getting ignored because the moderators want to, it's more of an issue that there are no moderators to moderate it as soon as those posts go up, the moderators can't be active 24/7. 24/7 no, but you should always have a mod active, its why you recruit for all hours, as i said i've done this before myself and we had to make sure there were always mods active during all hours just to make sure as little as possible sneaks through > I highly doubt this will be an option, even if I can't speak for Riot here. Riot won't pay for something if they got us and we're managing to do it. Yes you're right, riot won't invest in a proper solution, but we both knew that already, its why they replied on volunteers for pretty much everything, its free labour :P > It'd also take some time for them to actually find people they could hire for that, most likely they'd employ a third party company who would then employ moderators, in which regard communication and actual quality may be highly debated Considering some of the moderation messages i've had its already up for debate
>24/7 no, but you should always have a mod active, its why you recruit for all hours, as i said i've done this before myself and we had to make sure there were always mods active during all hours just to make sure as little as possible sneaks through At all hours is just... impossible. No one is going to be around at 3 am, except for some people (like me) during weekends, but that's it. To have someone around at these times, especially during the week, there'd need to be people from the other side of the world, but next to no one from Australia or NA plays on EUW and even more so uses the Boards (when they have their own Boards that are just as good as well). And even if there may be one person that does fit that description, they aren't going to be really active, have a clean slate and fulfill all our other requirements. There's a lot of bad stuff you could do with moderation permissions, so it's not like we could just recruit anyone and instantly give them these rights as long as they can be active during these times.
: > [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=mHFw8Fsu,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-18T16:34:46.754+0000) > > I think this comment by Torpedosheep beneath that post pretty much sums it all up: > https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/PAfUrl85-i-tested-riots-ban-system-how-to-get-banned-without-any-flame?comment=000d > Along with the fact that Riot Games uses the definition of words that the majority of the community uses. You can say k.y.s and claim it's supposed to be "kiss" in danish, however, the majority of the community thinks it means "kill yourself" and the system will treat it as such. In any case, if there was just a normal discussion between danish people going on, it's mostly weird that someone ended up getting reported anyways, but besides that, I'm sure the Riot Support would look into it, like they obviously did with these cases even if we don't know their reasoning. However, someone looking for a ban shouldn't really be surprised when they get a ban. > > I can assure you that is not the case, even if it may seem like Riot Games moderates the boards, the boards are mainly moderated by some of the Volunteers (basically, the other people beside me who have the "Emissary" or "Wrenchman" tag). While I don't belong to the moderators, it'd be quite weird for us to delete these posts in order to hide some secret conspiracy by Riot Games when we're not even employed by Riot Games. I think your finally seeing my point, but obviously you need to pay attention the details I'm attempting to point out. You have just agreed with my that the system ignores context. That is my point, the system should have much more detail in it and be upgraded or redesigned, or provide an alternative where bans can only be performed by a person and not the bot. Your consistently missing the point I'm trying to make however if you try to stick to it, I appreciate your voice on the post as it allows me to bat basic arguments.
How should a bot be made to see context? It's impossible, because context is mostly something we humans see, you'd need an AI to really make a foolproof system that'd detect context, but even that's just impossible on this scale. For the very few cases that context is important, I doubt it'd be worth it to make a completely new system when these people could just send a ticket to the Riot Support and they'll look into it. Employing humans to review all reports is also very unrealistic for a game that has more than 100 Million active players playing every month, meaning there are even more games being played. How many employees would that need? For a company that's oriented around profit, such as Riot Games or pretty much any company you can find, that's just not worth it. They'd lose all their investors and go bankrupt really quick.
: > [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=mHFw8Fsu,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T15:47:03.046+0000) > > You see, the problem is that if I search for these supposed cases online, I really only find justified bans. > Here are a few examples: > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/mEJLVVp3-completely-unfair-ban > https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/r3Aa53LR-riot-is-just-unfair-with-their-bans-14-days-ban-for-nothing > https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6ae99y/unfair_ban_from_riot/ > > These are the first results if I search "Riot unfair ban". As such, it would be a huge help if you could further elaborate. If I saw an actual unfair ban and the Riot Support would really have just ignored that, then I'd do my best to help that person. However, these cases happen next to never, especially because the people at the Riot Support are all very nice and I could never imagine any of them ignoring someone willfully or anything like that, if there was no good reason for that. I've stated in brackets those are cases of toxic players, please attempt to understand my point. https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/PAfUrl85-i-tested-riots-ban-system-how-to-get-banned-without-any-flame Is a perfect example of the broken system^ There are hundreds of threads written up regularly but they are taken down after they are resolved because riot tries to keep their slate clean.
I think this comment by Torpedosheep beneath that post pretty much sums it all up: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/PAfUrl85-i-tested-riots-ban-system-how-to-get-banned-without-any-flame?comment=000d Along with the fact that Riot Games uses the definition of words that the majority of the community uses. You can say k.y.s and claim it's supposed to be "kiss" in danish, however, the majority of the community thinks it means "kill yourself" and the system will treat it as such. In any case, if there was just a normal discussion between danish people going on, it's mostly weird that someone ended up getting reported anyways, but besides that, I'm sure the Riot Support would look into it, like they obviously did with these cases even if we don't know their reasoning. However, someone looking for a ban shouldn't really be surprised when they get a ban. >There are hundreds of threads written up regularly but they are taken down after they are resolved because riot tries to keep their slate clean. I can assure you that is not the case, even if it may seem like Riot Games moderates the boards, the boards are mainly moderated by some of the Volunteers (basically, the other people beside me who have the "Emissary" or "Wrenchman" tag). While I don't belong to the moderators, it'd be quite weird for us to delete these posts in order to hide some secret conspiracy by Riot Games when we're not even employed by Riot Games.
: > [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=mHFw8Fsu,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T15:36:09.122+0000) > > Can you show these cases here? And the chat logs related to those cases? Not all, but since you said you saw a lot of them, you can surely share some of them here. Hey hey, not need to be pissy in a debate, this is an opinion based post. You can google it and there are PLENTLY of posts( However there are some where people state they have been wronged but its false.) I'm somewhat busy rn, however if you really can't go through the effort of using the search engine I'll make an edit and post a basic example in one or two hours :D.
You see, the problem is that if I search for these supposed cases online, I really only find justified bans. Here are a few examples: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/mEJLVVp3-completely-unfair-ban https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/r3Aa53LR-riot-is-just-unfair-with-their-bans-14-days-ban-for-nothing https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6ae99y/unfair_ban_from_riot/ These are the first results if I search "Riot unfair ban". As such, it would be a huge help if you could further elaborate. If I saw an actual unfair ban and the Riot Support would really have just ignored that, then I'd do my best to help that person. However, these cases happen next to never, especially because the people at the Riot Support are all very nice and I could never imagine any of them ignoring someone willfully or anything like that, if there was no good reason for that.
: > [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=mHFw8Fsu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T15:30:31.674+0000) > > No, that's not how it works. You don't get punished for swearing as long as it's not directed at a teammate and if you do, you can contact the Riot Support and I can guarantee you they'll remove your punishment. However, you also won't get punished for once calling someone a "%%%%". If you get punished for that, chances are you said way worse stuff as well, or you did that in a lot of games. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you're flat out wrong with the way it works. It does work like that, although you CAN appeal. But many times the support staff will be unfair and be very awkward stating the context dosen't matter. I've seen a large number of cases and I'm confident in what I know. I strongly believe the punishment system needs a rework but I appreciate you replying non the less.
Can you show these cases here? And the chat logs related to those cases? Not all, but since you said you saw a lot of them, you can surely share some of them here.
: The ban system is disgusting
>FACT: If you say, " Oh fu ck, I didn't mean to do that" and you get reported, you will get flagged and punished. No, that's not how it works. You don't get punished for swearing as long as it's not directed at a teammate and if you do, you can contact the Riot Support and I can guarantee you they'll remove your punishment. However, you also won't get punished for once insulting someone lightly. If you get punished for that, chances are you said way worse stuff as well, or you did that in a lot of games.
xXxD2GxXx (EUNE)
: how i can talk with someone from riot
If you need assistance and want to talk to someone working for Riot, you should send a ticket to the Riot Support: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new We can also try to help you on the boards, but we're all only community members here, so you shouldn't expect any answer from a Rioter. Also keep in mind that getting an answer to a ticket you sent may take some time, possibly a few days.
M3lonion (EUW)
: I can login with my 2nd Account but not with my Main Account.
If you're getting a bugsplat upon trying to login, it seems like enabling a VPN will fix that. in case you don't know any VPN service, you can create an account and use this one: https://windscribe.com/ )
: i got perma banned for defending myself from a guy who was abusing me
"Defending" yourself would imply your health and well-being was in danger. Peoples words, unless you suffer from a trauma or something similar, tend to not harm people. At most, your feelings or your pride gets hurt. The word you're looking for is probably "retaliation". The best "defense" in your situation would've been to mute, ignore and report the person who verbally abused you. By flaming them back (retaliating), you're basically doing the exact same they did, so you're not really any better. Not to mention it won't stop their abuse either, you're at most doing exactly what they wanted you to do.
zvpHy (EUW)
: Chatban/14DaySus/Permaban
If you have to go out of your way to mute someone, that's already an inconvenience for you and it also doesn't change the fact that damage has already been done. Even if you may not see their future flame, your mood may still be ruined and the game will definitely not be as fun as it would've been without any flame at all, not to mention some of your teammates may get influenced by that flame and also flame back, so you may even have to mute the whole team. This also ruins the communication within your team, meaning you're more likely to lose. The people who didn't mute the flamer will focus more on the chat instead of the game, meaning they'll perform worse as well. You see, it just causes a lot of inconveniences and ruins the game in a lot of ways. The easiest way to avoid all this is to just not flame. The punishments Riot gives out are supposed to tell you to look for ways to stop flaming your teammates and if you can't stop yourself from flaming your teammates, their last resort is to ban your account in the hopes that you'll leave the game, so others can enjoy it. ######By the way, you lose honor *along* with getting chat restrictions, bans and all that when you're toxic already. If you're toxic, but not enough to get a punishment yet, your honor progress also gets slowed down.
robin7075 (EUW)
: Why doesn't riot do anything about afk or inters?
You don't always receive report feedback when someone gets banned, you only receive it *sometimes* after someone got a punishment. So not getting it is not an indication of them not getting punished. However, people don't get banned for going AFK in the first place (with some ultra rare exceptions), they only get punished by the Leaverbuster, meaning they need to wait 20 minutes or so for the next 5 games (scaling up depending on how many times they leave, if they only leave once it's also possible they get away without any major punishment). And for the Leaverbuster, you never receive any report feedback as far as I am aware, so there, it's not an indicator at all. You can rest assured that he did definitely get noticed by the Leaverbuster though, you wouldn't even need to report someone in order for the Leaverbuster to take note of someone leaving the game and issuing them a punishment.
: Patch 9.14 worst patch of the year
There is still about half a year to go, I wouldn't be so quick with my judgement lol
Cypherous (EUW)
: > moderation is mostly handled by the Volunteers, meaning no one does this as a job and no one is getting employed nor paid for anything here. And herein lies the issue, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys > In any case, I'm not a moderator, but if you have a complaint about how moderation is handled, I think it'd be best if you'd state the exact problem, maybe even offer solutions to it. The "problem" is your moderators have no idea what they are doing and are incorrectly moderating things that didn't need moderating and ignoring things that did, i've seen literal porn sit on these boards for hours despite it being reported, the mods seem to care more about dealing with snowflake protection than actually doing their "job" properly I've done volunteer forum moderation before, and we had standards, we expected people to be around to do their jobs or at the very least be able to be contacted as required, we were so old school we used IRC lol The "solution" is hire some professionals to do the job, cost shouldn't be an issue for riot, if people ar epaid to do a job they generally take it more seriously than volunteers > I can't force you to do that, but I can assure you that creating a post and just saying "mods are bad" won't lead to anything, no one will take your feedback serious that way. Lets be honest here, considering how riot has continued to go downhill over the last few years i honestly don't think they care as much as they used to :P
>The "problem" is your moderators have no idea what they are doing and are incorrectly moderating things that didn't need moderating and ignoring things that did, i've seen literal porn sit on these boards for hours despite it being reported, the mods seem to care more about dealing with snowflake protection than actually doing their "job" properly I can assure you that we're aware that we aren't as fast with moderation as we used to be and I can also assure you we're looking to fix that issue. Inappropriate posts aren't getting ignored because the moderators want to, it's more of an issue that there are no moderators to moderate it as soon as those posts go up, the moderators can't be active 24/7. However, if you have any concrete examples of where "unjust action" was taken, it'd be good if you could show that so Moderators could take a look at it and see if there is an actual mistake. If you have Discord, you can go here: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/team-recruitment-en/nEUNsA1b-eu-boards-discord We have channels reserved for talk about moderation actions done on the boards. >The "solution" is hire some professionals to do the job, cost shouldn't be an issue for riot, if people ar epaid to do a job they generally take it more seriously than volunteers I highly doubt this will be an option, even if I can't speak for Riot here. Riot won't pay for something if they got us and we're managing to do it. I don't think the boards would really be worth it for them if I'm honest, if you ask me it's more likely they'd remove the boards or at least a lot of the localized boards (german, spanish,... boards) instead of hiring people to moderate there, so the community would at most suffer from something like that. Paid moderation is also not necessarily better than volunteer moderation, getting paid for something doesn't automatically mean you are better at it nor that you do less mistakes. It'd also take some time for them to actually find people they could hire for that, most likely they'd employ a third party company who would then employ moderators, in which regard communication and actual quality may be highly debated, I think you get the picture.
Cypherous (EUW)
: Yo Forum Mods
Weird, especially you should be quite aware of how moderation on the boards is handled and that moderation is mostly handled by the Volunteers, meaning no one does this as a job and no one is getting employed nor paid for anything here. In any case, I'm not a moderator, but if you have a complaint about how moderation is handled, I think it'd be best if you'd state the exact problem, maybe even offer solutions to it. I think that'd help the moderators a lot with dealing with the issue or discussing something with you (if that's what you want). I can't force you to do that, but I can assure you that creating a post and just saying "mods are bad" won't lead to anything, no one will take your feedback serious that way.
fUwReSean (EUW)
: thanks alot for the answer and i shall do as proceeded thanks enjoy your upcoming weekd ^^.
campp (EUW)
: Honnor Lvl
Your honor progress is the most affected by the amount of games you play. Simply playing will already boost your honor progress, even if you're not standing out as extremely positive or anything in these games, being neutral is enough already. However, if you're behaving in a bad way (for example, being toxic, flaming people, insulting others,... even if not enough to get chat restricted or otherwise punished by Riots system) your honor progress will get slowed down. The other thing that affects your honor level is whether or not you get honored, but honors only give a slight boost to your honor progress. In the end, what matters the most is how much you play.
fUwReSean (EUW)
: Hello Riot, can i have answer to ranked disable? :)
No, Riot Games doesn't only suspend peoples ability to play ranked, and they don't just punish people on the spot without there being a reason for it either. There are no "ranked bans" or anything of that sort. At most, Riot gives players 14 Day Bans and Permanent Bans (which apply to your account itself and in turn, to all queue types, just like all other punishments Riot usually gives out), but if you receive that type of punishment, you likely did something that you should know has consequences, like for example threatening others, wishing people death, being racist or intentionally feeding. Note that just playing bad is not punished by Riot Games in any way, even if some may refer to it as "inting". Intentional feeding is dying with the intention to give the enemy an advantage and in turn, give your own team a disadvantage. If you don't have this motive before dying, you're a bad player at most and that's it. The biggest "punishment" Riot will ever give you for that is losing a game, dropping in MMR and Rank (if you're playing ranked), till you get matched against players who perform just as bad/good as you. If you should still get punished for playing bad in any way, you can always [send a ticket to the Riot Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and they'll take a look at your punishment and most likely remove it.
: Thanks for the answer :) (Even tho its weird you call Korea a small region :p)
Well, I didn't, Riot did. Though I'd probably agree, compared to the playerbase in EUW or NA, they're probably relatively small, even if they decide a lot about the meta and are really good in pro-play.
: LoLSkin discussion after TR boards post
https://boards.tr.leagueoflegends.com/tr/c/duyurular/EV4TAaqn-lolskin-kullananlar-dikkat1?comment=02070005 This comment, as far as our google translate skills go, says that in the smaller regions, this program will also not be allowed (Russia, Korea, SEA). The larger regions like EUW will first adapt this new system and then Riot decides for each of these regions separately if they want to ban for it as well or not, which will depend on how much damage the program causes to Riot in that region. So if just 2 people use it, they likely won't care, but if 15% of the players in EUW use it, they'll probably start banning for it (though they'll, like on the TR server, most likely warn before banning for it as well). Anyways, depending on Riots decision, you'll likely hear something about this. And if you don't, everything should be the same as it always was, which means that these programs are in a gray area and that while Riot does not think it's great to use them, they don't actively ban people for it.
: Why do people look for any other reason but themselves when they lose?
Players tend to think they play good to the point where they even think they play good when they don't. This is known as illusiory superiority and it also applies to a lot of situations in real life, for example when people overestimate their performance at school. There are a lot of theories on why this happens and there are differences depending on cultures, if this interests you, you can search it up (it'd feel kind of weird copy pasting a Wikipedia article or something here). Now if they lose a game, there obviously needs to be a reason for that, and since they think they play good, they need someone else to blame for it, so as not to create a conflict in their mind (known as a cognitive dissonance). The same may go for other situations, such as when they lose their lane, they may blame the jungler instead of themselves because they think they are good at the game, so their mind once again searches for someone else who's easy to blame. Another thing that may be interesting is that, if we look at the Dunning-Kruger effect, people who are worse have the tendency to overestimate themselves more than people who are better. So while we don't have any data by Riot on this, it's likely to assume that this happens even more often in lower elo.
: but get bans for stupid kids dont have life worth? when you get ban without say 1 word toxic ,,, better be like tyler 1 and flame all and riot 1 day will remove you the ban and contrat you :D nice atitude or he process riot ?
First off, this post of mine is already 2 years old, so... yeah, kinda weird to get a reply to it now. In any case, Tyler1 never got any of his bans removed. The only ban he got removed is the ID ban, which basically means that he is allowed to create new accounts without them automatically getting banned again (which was the case before, he didn't need to actually be toxic on these accounts, as soon as they were created and identified to be his, they were banned). All accounts of his that were banned in the past are still banned and he will never recover them. People also don't just get banned without saying anything toxic. These cases are really rare and if someone was banned without being toxic, they can contact the Riot Support and they'll remove the ban. However, the large majority of people already went through other punishments before arriving at a permanent ban, like chat restrictions or temporary 14 day bans. As such, false permanent bans happen next to never. If the Riot Support refuses to lift a ban, chances are it was deserved, but if you don't trust their judgement, you can always open up a post on the boards, share your chat logs with the people and see if the community also thinks your punishment wasn't deserved. If they do, you will very likely attract Riots attention and they may take another look at your case. However, just saying "people get banned without being toxic" is pretty much an empty claim.
: Ads in taiwan region
Garena is a different company from Riot Games, Riot Games only gives them the game and in exchange, Garena provides the servers and hosts the game over there, since it wouldn't be profitable for Riot Games to run their own servers in South East Asia. Maybe they'll change their stance on this one day, but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon. So basically, they can't really change a lot with the client over there. If you live in Taiwan, my best bet if you really don't want to play on Garena / use their client, would be to switch to the Japanese or Chinese (PRC) server (although the Chinese server is also not run by Riot Games but by Tencent, so I can't promise anything there either), if you have a Korean ID, you could also switch to the Korean server. Although it is even further away from Taiwan, you could also try Oceania. You can't transfer an account from Garena though, so you'd need to create new accounts on these servers (though you can transfer from for example EUW to both Oceania and Japan).
Ember Frost (EUNE)
: What's the reason for this board?
Actually, that's exactly what the boards are *not* supposed to be used for. You can report people after a game for that or [send a ticket to the Riot Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new), but no one here can punish anyone you "expose" here, so all you're doing is at most start a witch hunt targeted at someone (which the boards are not intended for and will not support). However, you *can* for example have a discussion questioning peoples behavior in general and asking for the opinion of others on how to deal with these people. You could even give the aforementioned case as an example, though you would, according to the boards rules, need to censor their name (in order to not start a witch hunt). You can also use these boards to discuss a punishment Leagues system gave you here or ask for tips in case you have problems with toxicity, though you should always keep in mind that no one here is a Rioter, unless they have a red name and are clearly marked as such. Also, once again, no one here can actually undo any actions done on your account, you need to [contact the Riot Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) for that, but we can offer you advice and discuss things with you. So really, you can discuss anything somehow related to the behavior of players in League of Legends, including yourself, on this subboard.
Wrongo (EUW)
: I understood nothing of what you just said ^^
You can draw something related to League of Legends - it does not need to be anything good, it only needs to be *something*, even a stickman is enough - and send it to the Riot Support in exchange for the 4 RP: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/fr/requests/new This can only be done once on every account though, so it can not be abused to effectively gain any RP for free. As for the type of request, just choose something that fits the most. "Question générale sur League of Legends" / "General League of Legends question" should always fit.
Mitsuk3 (EUW)
: I lost 1 lol
Right, I took a look at the op.gg of the account you said this happened on: https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=QuM1tSuk3+YT By what I can gather there, it seems like these 3 games where your promotion games to Silver I: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335782456282316800/599210069284093962/Screenshot_3.png Which leaves these games after your promotion to Silver I: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335782456282316800/599210075680407563/Screenshot_4.png So you played 4 games after being promoted to Silver I and out of those, you lost 3, the last Zed game you lost being the one that caused you to actually drop a division again, the loses before that didn't yet demote you because you were still shielded due to recently being promoted. So there was no mistake with how the system is supposed to work at least and it wasn't just that one game that caused you to drop, if you'd have won any more of the other games before that, you probably wouldn't have dropped either.
Mitsuk3 (EUW)
: Being demoted after being promoted is bullshit
That's weird, because this can't happen. After being promoted, you'll be shielded from demoting for the next 3 games in case you were promoted a division (e.g. from silver III to silver II) and 10 games in case of a tier (e.g. from silver I to gold IV). Here's the source in case you need it: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/204010760-Ranked-Play-FAQ#h3q2
Zanador (EUNE)
: It's the thing that happens when your location relative to the planet's core is facing away from one of the several billion nuclear reactors we can observe. Primitive cultures attributed some kind of strange significance to this arbitrarily defined event. For example fossil evidence shows that some might have used this time to "rest" or even "sleep", however archaeologists and anthropologists are yet to come up with a unified theory as to what these rituals used to be, let alone what their purpose could have been.
Thank you Kanye, very cool!
: A lot of people will give you different reasons. But here is the objective one : It's because NA boards have rioters that are constantly reading posts/comments AND answering them. They explain why they made some changes or thank people for their feedback. That's also where you can find the [*dev corner*](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner); it's the boards section where the champion/design team post all their idea about what they *think* they will implement (even if it's just an idea and will never come to the servers) + all the PBE changes before they come. You can check an example here : [Quick Gameplay Thoughts: July 5](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/17fpOPh5-quick-gameplay-thoughts-july-5). It's written by Meddler himself and you can see him answering tons of comments there. This is a game changer when it comes to boards activity. Being in a direct conversation with a rioter and discussing league features or balance changes with him is quite different from only having other players answer without any real facts. People feel heard there + they can directly engage and have an impact on all the current changes + future features. Posts you will do on EUW will sink in the abyss 99% of the time, no matter how good they are. If you add to that that all boards aren't region locked (you can do everything there just fine with your EUW account), then why would any player post/read/comment in EUW while he/she can do that in NA boards?
By the way, not all boards aren't region locked, for example NA accounts can't use the EU Boards (although we can use theirs). Then again, why would they need to go to our boards anyways?
Shamose (EUW)
: Petition to make me the night's watch.
: Hey GLurch Thanks for your reply! Yes, the tournament worked like this: Everyone could sign-up via a Google Form and then the Tournament Admins put together the teams. They tried to balance the teams as good as possible but they also allowed full teams to sign-up. In the end it the tournament started with 20 teams divided in 5 groups who played a Round-Robin style groupstage. One of the admins themselves participated aswell. Apparently this was agreed on by a Riot Games. Since it's a bigger organization that is tied to the tournament, I'd rather not share information to the public as I have discussed this with one of the admins. Though I am more than willing to give information in a private conversation with an official from Riot Games to resolve this situation. The line you're mentioning is tied to a reward given out to the winners of the grand-finals by the organization that is tied to the tournament. Best regards, Illios
I'd just like to mention that I edited my comment a bit here and there, so there may be some changes. That aside, I can't provide you with a direct contact to Riot or anything (in the first place, Riot usually only discloses this kind of information to the organizers, as I mentioned), and I also don't see a reason for not saying who the organizers were, or what the name of their "organization" was. It's just that I'm personally interested in all this and would've liked to do some research because I like keeping an eye on "certain fishy organizations" as a sort of hobby, I guess and depending on how things may go, I would've reported it to Riot Games and see what happens next. In any case, I very much doubt that a Rioter personally agreed to the full rule book the providers wrote in the name of Riot Games, along with the part that the organizers themselves are participating in the tournament, or just alone the fact that the organizers are participating in the event. I have really never heard of a tournament where that was the case and the rules I posted in my previous comment (after some edits, these: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/burningman-prod/tournament-rules/en_GB.pdf ) mention at multiple points that the tournaments are to be free of any conflicts of interest or bias. I'd even go as far as to claim that if a Rioter were to have used Riots name to agree to such rules, they'd lose their job.
: Riot does not respond to them either. They tried to contact them through multiple channels but Riot does not reply at all.
Riot does not just ignore requests. They always reply to the ticket in some way, even if it may be by closing the ticket (which usually follows some reason as well, like them spamming Riot Games). Anyways, if Riot really completely ignored them, as in, they didn't give any answer at all, didn't close down the ticket with any explanation, didn't do anything at all, the organizers are free to say what the ticket ID is and I'll see who I can ask. From my perspective, this all just seems fishy (as in that the organizers are most definitely hiding some things from you). How did the tournament work exactly? In the small part of the rules you posted, I see a line stating "If the admins win then their prize will be given away in the form of a giveaway after the tournament". Riots rules for providing prizes are very long and in-depth and I think that apparently, the organizers also took part in this tournament, which is a very clear violation of Riots rules and may be a reason why they are not giving out any prizes (for reference, here are the rules: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/burningman-prod/tournament-rules/en_GB.pdf ). Giving away these prizes in the form of a giveaway is also not allowed, one actually needs to win the tournament and the tournament has to be free of any kind of "corruption" or unfair advantages given to anyone. If the organizers violated this, they'll most likely also be exempted from hosting any further tournaments on the events page, but that's not a huge deal anymore because at the moment, the events page for EU has been shut down. On another note, was the tournament even registered on the events page? I'm guessing yes, since this isn't that much of a problem, but in general, it'd be nice to have some more information so that we can maybe try and find out what the problem with the tournament may have been (if my previous point didn't... already kind of do that, in case I was right with my assumption). Like, who were the organizers? I'm guessing they have some kind of community, do you perhaps have a link to that community, like a discord invite? Can you link their full rulebook? Who was allowed to participate in the tournament, how were people matched up against each other,...? All that aside, I'd like to mention that I'm not a Rioter, so I can't exactly tell you what happened either, the only people who could do that would be Riot Games and the organizers of the event, who most definitely have a clue of what's going on, even if they want to play dumb. I'd also like to mention that it's probably normal for Riot Games not to reply o your tickets, since you're not the organizer of the event and usually, the only one who really gets to contact Riot about their tournament is the organizer of the event, which is not you. Riot Games tends to not disclose such information, because it may violate what some may deem as their privacy.
: 25 games chat restriction
If there is an issue with the chat restriction/reform card you got, you can send in a ticket to the Riot Support and they can look into it (because except for them, no one on the boards can really help you): https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new On another note, you're most likely just getting displayed the wrong games. At least for most of the previous cases where the exact same happened to people, they only got the wrong games shown and after contacting the Riot Support, they were sent the games they were actually punished for. So their punishment wasn't in itself false or later on revoked. As a disclaimer, an answer can take up to a few days, I believe at most a week. Usually, it'd take a few hours or a day to get an answer from the Riot Support (that's how it's been for a while at least), but as far as I know they've been pretty busy lately due to TFT and server issues, so an answer could take a bit longer than "usual".
: Easter Egg in TFT?
Indeed, when picking champions during the shared draft phase, smileys or the-like (I don't know what else to call that "< >") will pop up. You can call it an easter egg, but I'd call it a funny little detail, seeing as it's not really secret enough to be an easter egg.
: why is riot gaems a lesser comanpy after all these years?
Uhm if you want a list of all the arcade missions, you can find it here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/eBazIgqN-arcade-2019-mission-list-and-dates
: Hacked and banned, have accounts been leaked? (CHANGE YOUR PASS)
To begin with, Riot bans users of 3rd party programs in waves. This means that all accounts that somehow got stolen and scripted on or whatever get all banned together, so obviously you'll see multiple people complaining about this at the same time. If Riots servers really got hacked, we'd all get notified somehow and Riot Games would likely not be the only service that got hacked, not to mention that there would be way more people claiming their account got hacked than there are at the moment. But one doesn't just hack the servers of a multi-billion company. It's not really easy and entails a lot of risks and I don't think there really is a lot to gain either, compared to for example Facebook or Twitter, where one could get a lot more information by hacking the servers and in turn make more money from that. However, it is possible that either a new kind of scam website is going around (one of these "I'll give you free RP, you only need to log in with your league account data") or that another service you use that has the same password as your league account got hacked. One website you can use to check on this is this one (although your account not getting listed there doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't been breached): https://haveibeenpwned.com/
Tannur (EUW)
: PBE
Bonjour! Pour avoir accès au PBE, allez ici: https://pbesignup.na.leagueoflegends.com/fr_FR/pbe
: ***THIS***
God damn it
: impersonating riot in ranked? who is that guy?
As someone else said, this most likely was Riot Liq. I can definitely assure you that he works at Riot Games because he happens to be on the official German League of Legends Discord, unless he got his account stolen or something like that (which I doubt). ######god damn I'm slow, it's been like just 3 minutes and everybody is posting faster than me >.>
: > [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=wWyfoEeE,comment-id=000100020001,timestamp=2019-06-12T13:21:00.761+0000) > > I'm sure Tencent would be interested in that as well lul IKR. I think its about damn time that full dive games get released to the public use. I dont care i might get stuck inside like SAO
Well, it was supposed to be more of a joke referencing how Tencent is working together with the chinese state (just like any other chinese company) to monitor their citizens in nearly everything they do.
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