: Sorry for copying and pasting the same response I typed to Solash, but for the sake of saving time. >Well, I guess it depends on perspective. >Just imagine the GG Easy guy after dying 57 times then said player gets a kill and none stops spamming, for the sake of ego "I.AM.GOD!" kinda stuff. >Or mostly, its a typical Yasuo player spamming Mastery, whistle doing absolutely nothing. he is just farming, chilin´ and all that, but at the mean time, he is just constantly pressing the mastery. To the point where you have to mute the man. >Its used the same way as the laugh/taun/dance spammers. But more annoying.
Well, I personally tend to struggle to keep up with the game most of the time, so could easiely be that I miss things. ^^'
: Emotes, the sad truth, I guess (?)
I seem to never have met any of those 'BM players' yet. :/
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GPet,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nIGLVQz4,comment-id=000300000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-21T13:24:22.314+0000) > > Cus they get zoned off their turret, and if they don't move away just killed under it. :( Only if jungler comes to help enemy bot lane too. Or if they get greedy for ranged minions. BUt it also depends which ADC. But also if enemy support doesnt match your supports roam, support can roam to mid lane and with the help of jungler pressure there. Take Olleh for example Reached rank 1 as support. Spends 4 minutes on bot lane whole game.
In one specific game or in all of his games? I personally love roaming supports and know how much impact they can have, but it really is so easy to exploid the enemy ADC when they are left alone. Mainly the trick is to know when to be bot to prevent dives etc, but in the topic of this thread I assumed fully leaving your ADC alone, which will have them get dove rather sooner than later.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GPet,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nIGLVQz4,comment-id=0003000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-21T12:42:49.569+0000) > > But if you leave your ADC to 1v2 they won't get xp nro gold even under turret. :p > > Playmaking supports should indeed look for roams rather than trying to protect them, but just leaving them to their own will only work out well if the enemy bot swaps away to other lanes. Why wont they get xp or gold?
Cus they get zoned off their turret, and if they don't move away just killed under it. :(
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=HypodermicSaIIy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nIGLVQz4,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-08-21T11:21:22.435+0000) > > our adc wasnt rude or an asshole he just died early game alot but that doesnt mean our support should leave Actually that means exactly that. Support should roam if ADC isnt doing well. ADC should then just farm under tower and soak solo experience while support tries to influence game somewhere else. Whats the point of support staying bot? ADC is behind , they cant fight 2v2.
But if you leave your ADC to 1v2 they won't get xp nro gold even under turret. :p Playmaking supports should indeed look for roams rather than trying to protect them, but just leaving them to their own will only work out well if the enemy bot swaps away to other lanes.
: > [{quoted}](name=i am not roel,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=g6GAB5GE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-08-21T08:06:16.779+0000) > > I think they are never going to do it because for honor levels you must be honorable, not just have a lot of money you want to spend on league. **You also can't buy LP boosts, can you?** Fantastic idea, I'll pitch it immediately! ######This is in the jokes section, for those who missed it.
But so far elo heaven was always free to get... T.T
: about supports who leave their adc when they are having a bad game
I miss the old days where supports always were on the roam, I can't play this botlane focused meta. Q.Q
skinTDM (EUNE)
: and for Orianna and malzahar.. i think ill go with something else.. Ziggs or Vlad or Orianna.. Malzahar is down.
The best bet is usually to buy what you tried and enjoyed as free week, but that doesn't always cover everything. :/ Else I guess you can watch gameplays to see how each champion behaves.
skinTDM (EUNE)
: okay, So Shen is to stay in top lane and use ult to help the carries, while maokai is to wait for teamfights and get an ace. Am I right?
To stay top or bot. In the most simple way that's right, but it tends to always get complexer. x3
Me0wstic (EUW)
: Indeed, it is not Taric-Ezreal. It's Me0wstic-Ezreal.
Well, cannon wise they won't make any weird pairings anyway I tend to believe. As for if he will remain single, I think you are in my way. .-.=
: Need help in understanding Janna (guide and tips
For lane you just want to use E whenever your ADC trades. You want to pretty much limit the use of your other spells to deny enemy engages. (I personally find that most of the time just using and insta Q to stop your enemy's dash is most effective, but they don't have a good all in you can just let it charge to disengage after trading a bit. (Similar to Soraka Janna is very strong is trading, btu for Janna this is mostly limited to her E duration.) Later on you just do all to keep your team and mainly your ADC alive. She is pretty similar to Soraka, just that rather than healing she uses CC to try and prevent them taking damage in the first place. You max R -> E -> W -> Q. Usually build Coin, upgrade it at your first back and the get Ardent as soon as possible. If you don't need it sooner you'll get Sightstone after Ardent, and then itemise into either more Healing/Shielding power (Mikael's and Redemption) or a locket, depending on what you will need.
Etherim (EUW)
: The Opinion Game :D !
I like tankmeta, I also like assassinmeta, I also like splitpushmeta, I also like Ardent Censer. I also like uneventful laningphases, they are the best. .-. I don't like punishments for whomever. I never understood why champion like Syndra would be considered to need less skill than any other mage. (Oh, and I hate people who stick to none-cannon relations like Ez-Taric. Why can't you just take characters as they are designed? Keep that poop in your fanfiction. v.v)
Loonstaa (EUW)
: I've lost every game I've played today.
skinTDM (EUNE)
: Ok thanks
Later in the game there are generally 3 setups you can use: 5 man teamfight 4-1 (4 memebers grouped usually mid, and 1 splitpusher) or 1-3-1 (3 emembers defending midlane while 2 splitpusher apply pressure on both sidelanes.) Splitpushers generally are just champions that will stay on sidelanes even in lategame and push them to create pressure. Champions that are good for splitpushing generally are able to win most 1v1 fights in that stage of the game so the enemy has to send at least 2 champions to relieve this pressure. If done correctly the splitpusher will simply back off and the rest of the team has a number advantage. If the enemy only sends 1 person and your splitpusher is stronger you just try to stall the map until either a 1v1 happens in the sidelane or the splitpusher just chibs away at the enemy turret untill it goes down. There are 2 types of splitpushers, even though both have to be able to do the other to some extend: 1. Can join your team faster. Most toplaners use tp for this. But if you have a Shen ult you will generally grant more impact to the 4v4 fight sooner than your enemy with TP. Another example would be splitpusher who try to roatate towards the fight first to flank. (e.g.: Kled or Warwick) 2. Is very strong at 1v1. These are the types fo Splitpusher who are able to 1v1 pretty much anyone, but struggle in teamfights. in most cases they still have to join teamfights if one breaks out, but they'd prefer to just stay 1v1 on their sidelane or can even win some 1v2 fights. (Those are champs like Fiora or Tryndamere.) Mostly toplaners end up being splitpusher, but Assassins from midlane usually end up doing it too. (this is when 1-3-1 setups happen.) Very rarely there are other positions who can do this: Jungle Yi/WW, (but jungle is always a case of their smite being needed around drake/baron) or Fanatic used to do it with ADC Kennen. ------------- For Shen - Mao it mainly comes down to that Shen can actively do this, while Mao might even struggle to defend turrets against the stronger splitpusher. However, Mao (Or anyone who cannot stand up in a 1v1) generally tries to counter this by simple engaging 4v5 if one enemy splits. In case of Mao he has a very reliable engage to do so, with either his ult or Rightous Glory + W.
skinTDM (EUNE)
: As for strength and who is better, is Maokai slightly better, or is Maokai far better then Shen?
They do different things mainly. Shen creates sidelane pressure and can keep his carries alive. While Mao looks for teamfights, got a better engage and overall more fight impact with better CC, but he'll get problems if your enemy got strong splitpusher. But are pretty decent currently, and while Mao is mainly used for jungling, I'd call them on par for top.
: a lot of Key Fragments
It tries to give you 4 keys per month. In the old system active players would get most keyfragments at the beginning of each monthly reset, the new one likely will be different, but I suppose it still will contense key fragments to one point when you aren't really active at others.
skinTDM (EUNE)
: Orianna or Malzahar
More fun will really just depend on what you enjoy playing like. I personally consider Ori more fun, more versitile and generally stronger. I barely touch top but whenever I get it (and decide to not troll around with AP WW) Shen is my way to go. ^^ (Even though Mao is arguably stronger.)
: There's no such a thing as Elo Hell or Elo Heaven. It all depends on luck of every game.
I disagree, I've been in elo heaven ever since I started playing, it seems to be pressent in every division I've played in so far (Silver to Diamond).
Shiwah (EUW)
: Ranged, mixed damage, can poke to death. Also, why not. AD carries in mid lane aren't that bad, I mean look at Ashe and Varus mid in past seasons.
He deals more AP damage than any normal mage though. <.< Ashe is too long in the past for me, I mainly consider the meta to not be as fleshed out back then, but champions also were very different. Varus was played as poke-caster, I wouldn't call his ADC with the build used on him there. However, currently we have Lucian mid, who just passures lane like he were an assassin, while being a lot safer and scaling well into lategame. (if the comb works around the AD factor)
: Why is Corki mid played?
Compared to mages he only lacks CC. In the current tank meta CC is not something you lack, and you mainly want pure damage from your mid. Corki provides about the best mix of Burst, DPS and Poke damage you could want, he doesn't necessariely exel at any of those, definitly takes upper spots in all of them. Pair this with his safe laning (W), insane scaling due to Crit builds, and map impact with Package and you'd rather wonder why you shouldn't play him mid. Additionally, in terms of soloQ: His damage is fully AP, so you don't even run into the problem where you lack AP damage by having an AD mid.
: honor capsules
As far as I've read theirn rarety is supposed to be roughly 1 per month. So 2 in a good month, none in a bad one. I'm sure you'll get one eventually. ^^
Solash (EUW)
: You think YOU'RE having a bad day?
That's what ya'll get for leaving your home. v.v
Solash (EUW)
: New Comic on the Universe Page - Darius, Blood of Noxus
Little Darius and Draven look so cuteeee! \*squeels*
: >The more interesting question is a rather paradoxical one: Will you ever be better than someone who is currently better than you and still improving? :o I run 100m, while a turtle runs 10 meters. The turtle has a 100m head start. 1. When I arrive at 100m, the turtle is at 110m 2. When I arrive at 110m, the turtle is at 111m 3. When I arrive at 111m, the turtle is at 111.1m 4. ... ... ... When will I pass the turtle?
Exactly what I was refering to. ;) But in terms of improving this might be harder to dismiss. :/
: Silver Rank is completly worse than bronze.
By definition it's not. Every elo will place similary skilled players together so no difference there, but you get rewards for silver that you don't for bronze.
: Do Players below diamond have hands ?
My educated guess would be that 99.99% do indeed have hands. However, we can't really tell. But what you easiely can tell is if any of them have hands, as I'm sure you know at least some that have them.
: Determination and willpower only get you so far. Simple you think, if I spend enough years learning, training and investing all my time in playing chess, I will be able to get to the level of Magnus Carlsen? I don't think so.
I actually never looked into it, but it seems rather hard for me to imagen that something like birth-talent exists. It's very likely more a case of being interested (for the example of chess) in strategy soon and thus learning and improving lots in it. "natural affinity" (as you called it below) is what I'd rather go for. x3 The more interesting question is a rather paradoxical one: Will you ever be better than someone who is currently better than you and still improving? :o
: How to get to challanger?
You just have to be very good at any aspect of the game. And in order to keep up still stick to improving 10 horus a day rather than doing anything else. <.<
: solo carry still possible?
Only possible when one has way higher skill than their current rating, like it always was. <.<
Treycos (EUW)
: Oh, it will REPLACE a key frags drop ? Really ?
Aye, but as Honour Capsules include at least 2 Fragments it's not liek it loses anything. ;)
Treycos (EUW)
: You won't last long, seeing her lore
I don't know if they changed it, but I don't see why that would be from her old lore. .-. As long as I don't annoy her all is gud. ^^
Treycos (EUW)
: > I'm mostly into Snowday Syndra ಠ‿ಠ
I'd snuggle her whole day, she looks so fluffy. :3
Shiwah (EUW)
: Justicar looks pretty sick as well.
I'm mostly into Snowday Syndra, but haven't had a acloser look on SKT or SG.
: in that case, we should leave it for 1 LP only
Well, but then it's really just the same for having 98LP, you are only 1 LP of promo for all that matters. :/
Truewarlock (EUNE)
: Unpopular opinion: I don't like Star Guardian skins
I love the SG skin line for the same reason I liked Arcarde skins, colours. \o/ I still want an Ezreal skin I like though, but I think no changed Q particles stand up to how it looks in classic. :/
: That shit is actually genius! Man, I respect them for that innovation. Although it admittedly feels bad af for the enemy.
It just isn't all that good for actually winning I feel like. :/
C9 LynX (EUNE)
: I need help
{{champion:34}} If I had to name a single strongest (and likely hardest to use spell) it's her W. :/ But for soemthing easier to pick up {{champion:161}} can reach a nice ceiling too.
Treycos (EUW)
: Ezreal is gay, that doesn't count
I'd be less tempted to hate everyone who says that if you could only provide any sort of cannon reasoning for it. v.v
PlutlN (EUNE)
: Why don't i get the honor Capsules when i have hit lvl 4?
When someone is honour level of 3 or higher every key fragment drop they get has a small chance to instead be honour capsules. It's not something people will get upon reaching the level, but instead simply is something to have it be mroe rewarding long term for higher honour levels.
: Im about to quit League, this is unacceptable!
Shuddup and stay in your room. .-.=
Voldymort (EUNE)
: that's because bronze players make the most drama out of it, in case you didn't notice
Don't silvers mostly do that? .-. I kinda assume it will simply come down to the amount of players in a certain league, and a similar percentage complaining for every tier. x3
krisz2010 (EUNE)
: EULCS Group B
I think game differantial goes first. If you go [here]( you can find this: So they aren't considered tied as H2K has a better game differential.
IvanBrony (EUNE)
: ( ͡°╭╮ʖ ͡°)
Imma be sads if it's anything I'd actualyl want, because I don't think I'll get very far in terms of honour. <.<
IvanBrony (EUNE)
: End of season honor rewards
Fine then no icon for you. :p
Wa5abi65 (EUW)
: I see posts saying "I can't climb because of my team" from Bronze, Silver, Gold & Plat players ALL the time.
You only see less of Diamond players because there are less Dia players overall. :^)
Voldymort (EUNE)
: just because you don't like the "mantra", it doesn't make it any less true :)
Not that it's not true, but it is very missleading when mentioning it in conjucture with Bronze rather than every elo it applies to. .-. (Nvm, you said 'only', now I call it missleading! .-.=)
: Stop the Knock up bullshit !!!
> Furthermore , the knock up is the only cc that can't be reduced by tenacity . I feel like that's exactly why it's so nice to work with. .-. I so far onyl got Lux as example, but if her root lasts 2 secs or less when they got tenacity makes a world of differance. Bet I can add this to the reasons why Lux will never be decent competitively. <.<
Mada (EUW)
: I for one welcome our robotic overlords
Why do I just have to wonder about the potential AI could have in educational systems... <.< Then again, most science starts out as fun thing. x3
: Good job Riot on the Star Guardian skins (not really)
I think she has 9 iirc. And I don't get why Taliyah needs a skin... Given, the Ice one is just ugly, but classic is all I could ever wish for. .-.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: They kinda go hand in hand, if assassin are strong, tanks are the best option to deal with them.
And if tanks are strong, anything to reliably kill the enemy backline has potential too. (As I still feel like that's just the way to win against tankcombs.)
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