DSANIC (EUW)
: I just got my win rate below 50%, should I give up?
If you give up every time you're behind, how will you improve?
: No, I mean when is the event coming?
There's no specific date announced, but it's most likely some time next week. It's added with this patch, and patches last usually 14 days.
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: Any Helper/Rioter to answer my questions
IFS is perfectly capable of understanding multiple languages.
Pixelbits (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=267dy4kH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-21T21:05:45.794+0000) > > and how do you decide which stat to use for mmr? farm? supports dont farm, kda? tanks/proxy singed/suicide sion is not about kda, vision score? around my elo ppl barely ward, dmg done to objectives? or what? there is a million way to win a game, this is why the current system is good, it does not matter how you won, if you win you get mmr and if you lose you lose it, there shouldnt be anything added to this, unless its the same for EVERY champion and for EVERY tactic Yea, but that is my point. The current system punishes you for the other players their mistake and that shouldn't be the case. Yea... others might say you're the reason you're losing. No matter what, feeders will always cost you your game. Also, to anwser your first question: Each role has it's primary stats. Supports focus around wards placed and wards destroyed, assists count, etc... Damage dealer are more revolved around damage dealth, objectives, etc... Maybe they could assign or add specific stats to each role? I'm not suggesting to remove the current system, but to add something extra to help it improve.
> No matter what, feeders will always cost you your game. Even on the enemy side? --- > Also, to anwser your first question: Each role has it's primary stats. Supports focus around wards placed and wards destroyed, assists count, etc... That's oversimplifying things greatly. That highly depends on what you're playing in a given role, and what tactic you're using. Your stats actually doesn't show the value of your contribution to your team's victory, or loss. --- > I'm not suggesting to remove the current system, but to add something extra to make it more accurate. Your suggestion doesn't make it more accurate though, it makes it less accurate. Regardless of how well you personally performed in the game, the only thing that matters in the end is if you won or lost. That's the only stats that really matters. Adding personal contribution is really really difficult, if not impossible, because it mainly comes down to decision making, which can't be measured in stats.
duelıst (EUNE)
: Hansiman > Here you're stating that you're giving up, and won't play because you were autofilled. Everyone is autofilled at some point, but that doesn't mean it's alright to intentionally stop playing because you don't want to. That's just ruining the game for everyone else. Can you explain why im Forced to play Role Which i dont want? I allways trolling if i get off role because I dont see any particular reason play what i dont want. Can you explain How this suppose to be fun To play role which you dont want?? I know what i want to play and for that reason i take draft mode to get roles Which i want to play but Riot games thinks that They know better what we want. Riot logic IS like that. WE cant waste time in queue like 20min instead we will make 3min queue and put you off role and make you waste 30+ more min in game playing role which you do not want. is that what Riot consider funny and interesting experience??? Look at this system. Pros: 1 Reduce Queue time Cons: 1 Forcing player waste time playing role which they dont want. 2 Promotes trolling because people do not try win game in off role. instead they just intentionally play poorly to lose game faster. 3 Playing off roles mostly makes snowball effect which other people who get their role cant carry team cause of autofilled player.
> Can you explain why im Forced to play Role Which i dont want? Queue timers, it's as simple as that. Before autofill was introduced, queue timers quickly exceeded 90+ minutes on the high end of the ladder, and 10+ minutes on the low end of the ladder. If you think people complain about being autofilled, you should've seen the amount of complaints about queue timers before it was a thing. --- > is that what Riot consider funny and interesting experience??? Probably not, but it's honestly a necessary evil. Most people are actually fine with filling once in a while, since it dramatically lowers the queue timers. It's not fun sitting 30+ minutes in queue just to get into your first champion select, and hope that nobody dodges. It's not like autofill happens very often, last season I kept track of my cases in ranked, and I played over 30 games in my primary roles between each time I was autofilled. I can hardly call that an issue.
Xiley (EUNE)
: I'm sure you can make any champion unplayable and then just say it's just a counter. In Kayle's case pretty much any champion "counters" her and that's a problem.
She has an intended weak laning phase, but is a hypercarry with the ability to demolish pretty much any opposition lategame. Again, her lategame ability comes at the cost of having a very weak early game. Often people will play any matchup far too aggressive, which has been the trend lately. Kayle is not intended to be played aggressive, so she forces people into a style that differs from what's been usual lately. As Riot stated with the nerf: Once people get past the learning curve, she becomes very strong. If you're struggling a lot with her, it sounds like you have not actually gotten to that level yet.
Xiley (EUNE)
: There's a difference between being countered and being completely awful in a given match up. I haveno clue of any Twitter fight because I don't use Twitter.
> and being completely awful in a given match up. That's being countered.
Xiley (EUNE)
: She's really not. Good luck laning vs good Viktor/Jayce/Cassio/Yasuo etc. She can't do anything vs these champions.
Oh, you've been reading the Twitter fight. All champions have some champions they'll struggle with. That's not really an argument.
Xiley (EUNE)
: Stats alone don't mean that much, you need to add context to them, otherwise you can misunderstand them.
Kayle was nerfed because she's actually rather strong, once you get passed the steep learning curve.
Sajjx (EUW)
: Reroll skin into permanent bugged?
Dropjuhhs (EUW)
: Random lose of LP
Patch 9.6 brought a partial ladder reset for those in D4+. From the [Patch Notes](https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-96-notes): > Looking forward, we'll be partially resetting the top of the ranked ladder when 9.6 releases. As a reminder, here's what this entails: > ... **DIAMOND IV** Diamond IV players become Diamond IV 0 LP no matter what
: So it doesn't matter if the account got hacked or not. Cause as said I didn't even had a chance to save it from the cheater.It's just done and should just start over?
That is generally the case I'm afraid.
Vegito101 (EUNE)
: I know that but still... I do not see anything offensive there...He maybe hard toxic in previous games and had 14 days ban,but this chat is not for permaban whatsoever...He would probably get perma anyway ,but this is rely ridiculous....U know it ,I know it,wee all know this is a joke
> I do not see anything offensive there Then you should read replies from other players, because it's been pointed out and explained. -- > He maybe hard toxic in previous games and had 14 days ban,but this chat is not for permaban whatsoever The log sent to you on a permaban is generally the last log that simply serves as an example that your behavior is still not fine. --- > He would probably get perma anyway Yes, since they were on a **final** warning that clearly states that any further violations of the rules will net them a permaban. --- > U know it ,I know it,wee all know this is a joke That may be your opinion, but don't state that it's my opinion, nor that it is the opinion of everyone else. You can clearly see by the response here that people are generally not agreeing with you.
Vegito101 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=mREb1gLb,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-21T10:40:26.400+0000) > I have seen bilion time worst harashment with no punishment... this is a joke...
Vegito101 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=mREb1gLb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-21T10:27:30.952+0000) > > Can you read your logs and say you were calm and civil in your situation? From where I'm sitting, it's rather clear that you're harassing other players. Yeah but is it for permaban???
OP admits to have gotten 14 day banned very recently which acts as a **final** warning, and even claims they've gotten more than one 14 day ban. This is most likely an indication how they behave in many of their games. They've ignored all past warnings indicating their behavior is out of line, so a permaban is the next step.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: i dont need to google everything for your whiteknights, how about you search your own god damn database since it's based on ask riots answers
I've searched, and found a response in their Ask Riot section. It doesn't say anything remotely close to what you're saying. --- I also suggest you stop insulting people.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: it's "minor inconvenience" according to RIOT. In reality they are just covering up their tracks
: Question about win / loss streaks.
> According to riot you have 50% chance to win games. If you are currently matched exactly where your current skill belongs, that's true. If you're climbing the ladder, you generally will have a higher than 50% win-rate, and the opposite is true if you're falling down the ladder. --- > E.g. I loose 10 games whatever I do, and then win 10 games effortlessly. Based on your recent match history, you're not doing streaks like this. But if such a thing was impossible, wouldn't that suggest more that something is wrong?
Lari (EUNE)
: I have made 4 posts about the poor matchmaking the last month but no one seems to care :(
Doesn't mean your opinion is not noticed, but you can't expect to get a Riot reply on everything.
: Yesterday I had a master yi who would farm the whole game (expected of a yi, right?), well after we started grouping Yi was still there.. Farming.. Needless to say our botlane kept getting camped by the midlaner, jungler and even the toplaner sometimes, we still got the first turret though.. Later everyone just went mid, we all died except yi who was still in his jungle doing his camps.. The remaining 3 people on their team were hard pushing mid and our yi(who had probably the best farm in the game, or at least should have) just said ''muted'' when we pinged him a couple of times and then ignored everything that was happening around him and instead just KEPT ON FARMING. moral of the story, dont play solo.. it sucks.. get a duo.. or play some champs that can carry(i main supports like Janna and Soraka who cant carry and i also solo so it sucks for me but since youre toplane get a good jungler or mid who can roam to your lane) also, why doesnt riot ban the toxic players? not that theyre that toxic to me but when i see them being toxic to others i report them and nothing happens at all.. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Him making poor choices isn't necessarily banworthy. --- > when i see them being toxic to others i report them and nothing happens at all.. There's no way for you to determine what action is taken upon other accounts, since that's private information.
: Well I never said anything about me cheating so that sentence doesn't make any sense.
No, but the account in question has been caught cheating, which is the reason for the suspension.
: What happened to Clash
> Anyone know why riot is having problems with Clash, especially in euw?? It's not a problem especially in EUW, although problems can quickly get quite big here since the server is much larger than other ones. They had a regional test of Clash in some other regions before the planned EU test, where they ran into problems which didn't really make it worth running the test on EU since it would most likely not work.
Lari (EUNE)
: Since i can not complain to Riot directly i have to complain to someone about this
There's plenty of methods to complain directly to Riot. Taking jabs at other players is not one of them.
Lari (EUNE)
: I did not blame them it is not their Fault Riot placed the in a higher Elo game, and blitz just did a poor choice of support, which his adc asked him not to pick against that specific enemy team.
> Nice Riot matchmaking, 2 silvers and a bad support pick That's not just complaining about matchmaking, it's taking a direct jab at people in your game.
Lari (EUNE)
: " What did you do all game, you are a f*ng Noob"
> or they randomly start accusing the one player that was actually trying to win the game. You obviously did aggrevate them by blaming them in your statement. Their response isn't ok, but you should expect to see more bad behavior from others when you display it yourself.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: maybe im derp but it sounds like you're saying they removed the ability to purchase 6 tears at a time
They did. You're limited to one tear-item, and can't purchase multiple tears anymore, after 9.6. It's targetted to hit the power of double-tear Ezreal.
: 9.6 live today or tomorrow ? unsure how o check mb
You just need to look in the lower right corner of the client: https://images2.imgbox.com/87/6f/H7K89eCz_o.jpg
: The thing I do always have unique passwords on every playform that has 10+ characters. Would at least be something if you got a couple years suspension the first time as a warning then a permanent. Cause cheaters can always make new accounts.
> Cause cheaters can always make new accounts. And they can always be banned again if they keep on cheating. There's always a very strict policy for people caught cheating, because it's not just a very clear rule violation, there's really no discussion when it comes to intent. You can't say "I was only cheating to defend myself", or "Yeah I cheated, but I didn't mean to. I just got so angry". People cheating make a choice, and go through the process to install and set up cheats, in order to get an advantage over others ingame.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: invalid reports dont do anything. it doesn't matter how many there are riot could remove the option to report people altogether and just have the bot review everyone after each game and you'd have the exact same system in place, tho perhaps a bit slower in dishing out justice
> riot could remove the option to report people altogether and just have the bot review everyone after each game and you'd have the exact same system in place Not really. That would increase the amount of false penalties since reports are a method of showing that something was taken as an offense. It's perfectly possible to joke around a bit if that's the atmosphere of the team you're in, but without reports, the system can't know this.
: Well yeah kind of, depending of how the system is built. If they have IPlogs and the time of ban they can see that the account was banned when a completly diffirent IP was playing on the account
That would not say much, since IPs are dynamic and very easily replaced. A lot of people use VPNs, for instance. When it comes to accounts caught using 3rd party tools, Riot has to be very adamant on the situation. They can't offer much leniency, since that would just open up for a situation where pretty much anyone caught cheating could simply state they were hacked, and be unbanned again. Account security is your responsibility. If your password is not secure enough, or you use the same password on several services, then you're not taking security serious enough. You should always have a strong **unique** password, and not share it with anyone.
: > i just lost 2.5k essence for nothing That's generally the case with champion masteries: they are a waste of essence.
It's a BE sink intended for those that had unlocked everything and didn't have other things to spend BE on. You're not intended to unlock mastery 7 for every single champion, but for the ones you actually play so much you want to get those extra levels for. You can unlock mastery levels for "free" if you spend champ shards on it.
: Bots are back
Bots are banned in large waves.
ViaYan (EUNE)
: BTW I thought I was supposed to get a permanent after a warning like a 14 days suspension. I haven't gotten a single 14 days suspension in a whole month.
> I haven't gotten a single 14 days suspension in a whole month. Sounds like you've gotten a 14 day suspension then, just not this past month. As long as you've gotten a 14 day suspension, you're up for a permaban if you don't improve.
ViaYan (EUNE)
: Find me a single comment I made that was actually an harassment.
> ViaYan: naut ViaYan: can u %%%%ing polay ViaYan: or troll ViaYan: if u wanna troll ViaYan: i urn it down with u This is harassment, and you're also giving a indication that it won't take much before you decide to intentionally lose the game for everyone. --- > ViaYan: alright im done ViaYan: jsut ff ViaYan: autofilled not point in playing Here you're stating that you're giving up, and won't play because you were autofilled. Everyone is autofilled at some point, but that doesn't mean it's alright to intentionally stop playing because you don't want to. That's just ruining the game for everyone else. --- > ViaYan: btw rengo1 5 ViaYan: rep him first While there's more harassment from your part towards Nautilus, suddenly you shift your attention to Rengar and want to report him for a negative KDA. That too, counts as harassment and serves no purpose. --- > ViaYan: tell this mother %%%ciung talon that trolling auto filled players is bad Now you target the Talon player and claim that he's trolling you. But since you've already made it quite clear that you are not participating in the game, who's the one trolling?
ViaYan (EUNE)
: Permanently Banned For unsportsmanlike behavior in an autofilled game? Chat Logs Inside.
Can you read your logs and say you were calm and civil in your situation? From where I'm sitting, it's rather clear that you're harassing other players.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=BwBPdEcE,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-03-20T21:30:24.028+0000) > > There's not really anything worse you can say than to tell another person that they should commit suicide. (Endyourlife) squared, cubed?
https://images2.imgbox.com/34/ba/TSgOM37g_o.jpg
: It works just that its completely shit! I played a game and typed %%% 3 times in a row without knowing the meaning. After the game the guy that told me to write it reported me and I got banned instantly. But other player that are legit tilted and say way worse stuff can go free.
> But other player that are legit tilted and say way worse stuff can go free. There's not really anything worse you can say than to tell another person that they should commit suicide.
Galvaman (EUW)
: Pls let people buy more than 1 tear again
If that's the only thing keeping them in the game, I'd assume they'd uninstall soon anyway. =/
: In my extensive research I haven't found anything that suggests there is any kind of "smurf detection system" for the lower levels, just normal MMR matchmaking like the rest of the game has.
> WookieeCookie: Agreed! That’s why we can’t endorse it. Instead of trying to restrict or prevent smurfs, various teams across Riot try to minimize issues caused by smurfing. For example, one of the teams that works on meta-game systems developed pretty good detection methods that quickly separate new players from experienced smurf accounts in the early levels. Within a few matches, smurf accounts only end up playing against other smurf accounts. [Source](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/q/lets-talk-smurfs-snow-and-bans-ask-riot).
zLvKNelly (EUW)
: I have the impression that you're trying to prove me wrong, yet bring more points that prove me right. If you have no clue how internet works, why engage in a discussion about connectivity? I already explained it in detail to YOU specifically and you seem to have learnt nothing. > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XQEg02tl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T17:05:52.395+0000) > > If you read further, you'll note that they specify that regional connectivity is taken into account And what does it mean? It means they know where you are. Which means they can send a signal to know how fast and how good your connection is responding. It's called a "ping". > which is different than knowing about technical problems on a persons computer. no, as I just said, you can measure the quality of an inbound signal. Now if you're talking about a virus or the cat dropping the laptop on the floor, indeed it cannot. But as I also already explained, why would it matter? The system doesn't take this uncertainty into account for flamers. > You'll also note that they are making the system more lenient towards those that return and help their team win, which someone who leaves intentionally is less likely to do. _Leaver detection is slightly more lenient if your team wins the game_ Once again, that's quite cryptic, it doesn't say anything about the player returning. Assuming it means what you said, which would be good, in my experience, 80% of ragequitters end up coming back, just to see their team lose by their fault. > So I should be able to leave the game without risking penalty by just leaving the game without using the quit button? I can close the game in task manager, for instance. Yeah you can totally fool the game into thinking you're still playing if you just right click its icon in the taskbar and choose "close", hackerboy ^^ I remember very clearly explaining to YOU personally that programs know very well when you close them, including with the task manager. I proved it to you using factual examples. Yet, here you are, trying to dodge the issue again with the same disproven point. And once again why would it matter whether someone clicks "quit" in 10% of his games or if the program crashed because of an unrecognised error? He knows he's a hindrance and keeps plaguing the game, I don't see why the referee should allow that. Have you ever seen a leper or someone with hepatis in a sport championship?
> If you have no clue how internet works, why engage in a discussion about connectivity? I already explained it in detail to YOU specifically and you seem to have learnt nothing. You haven't explained anything about how networking works to me. Your post certainly doesn't explain anything. --- > And what does it mean? It means they know where you are. Which means they can send a signal to know how fast and how good your connection is responding. It's called a "ping". That's not how things work though. --- > no, as I just said, you can measure the quality of an inbound signal. "Ping" does not do that. --- > Once again, that's quite cryptic, it doesn't say anything about the player returning. It **specifically** says that it's about players that **return** and **help their team**. --- > Yeah you can totally fool the game into thinking you're still playing if you just right click its icon in the taskbar and choose "close", hackerboy That's one example. Intentionally causing a crash isn't really that hard. --- > I remember very clearly explaining to YOU personally that programs know very well when you close them You've done no such thing. You've barely used the boards.
Senshi86 (EUW)
: It doesn't. That was not the point though. Besides the fact that you can easily fake an internet "blackout" to not receive any punishment, there remains the fact that 4 players get punished for 1 player having a bad connection or ragequit, whatever the reason for the afk. If riot was so good at detecting whether someone ragequit or had a bad connection, they could do a remake any time in the game, and make the one who ragequits take a big LP loss while they one with a bad connection receives no punishment (along with the other people in game). And this little part of afks does not even cover the rest of it. Anyone who recently played should have noticed that League has become a super toxic place and that trolling is excused as "having a bad game". Ever since they closed down the tribunal it has become a lot worse. Algorithms just can't do the same humans do.
> Besides the fact that you can easily fake an internet "blackout" to not receive any punishment You can fake a blackout on your computer, but not for an entire region. --- > If riot was so good at detecting whether someone ragequit or had a bad connection, they could do a remake any time in the game How would you proceed to detecting this? It's not an easy task, if at all possible. --- > Anyone who recently played should have noticed that League has become a super toxic place and that trolling is excused as "having a bad game". I haven't really encountered much toxicity in my recent games, and I can't remember the last time I had someone extremely toxic. Personal experience is anecdotal, and how you treat others is a big factor. --- > Ever since they closed down the tribunal it has become a lot worse. Algorithms just can't do the same humans do. Why can't it? IFS is faster than the Voting System, and handles far more cases at a higher accuracy rate. IFS is part of the Tribunal, btw.
Dekara3 (EUW)
: Ranked is bad (For me anyway)
You're matched up with people based on MMR. If they have an 85% win-rate, it means they're climbing the ladder, and that their visible ranking is most likely way under their current skill.
zLvKNelly (EUW)
: WELL WELL WELL...
If you read further, you'll note that they specify that regional connectivity is taken into account, which is different than knowing about technical problems on a persons computer. You can know when an entire country has connection issues, and then pair that up with players playing from that country, as an example. You'll also note that they are making the system more lenient towards those that return and help their team win, which someone who leaves intentionally is less likely to do. --- > But mostly, you CAN know for sure whether someone quit the game on purpose or got disconnected : THE FREAKIN QUIT BUTTON So I should be able to leave the game without risking penalty by just leaving the game without using the quit button? I can close the game in task manager, for instance.
Senshi86 (EUW)
: I did read it. It makes LeaverBuster more lenient towards players. I don't really care the reason people are afk for. If Riot wants to be more forthcoming they should not only lessen punishment for the ones who are afk, but also the ones who remain in game, have to endure the situation and lose LP for free.
> I did read it. It makes LeaverBuster more lenient towards players. Clearly you didn't, because that's not what it says. Here's the text for you: > We took a pass at updating LeaverBuster to improve its accuracy and effectiveness. Overall, **it'll be more forgiving for those who are unintentionally leaving games** for reasons outside of their control > * BUGFIX Fixed a bug where the game would sometimes fail to detect a leaver * COMEBACK INCENTIVE Leaver detection is slightly more lenient if your team wins the game * FORGIVE AND FORGET LeaverBuster now takes regional connectivity into account * THEY WON'T MIND LeaverBuster penalties are reduced in most Co-op vs. AI and Premade 5's games Where does it say that it'll be more lenient towards people that ragequit?
: Toxic / flaming community makes me wonder why I still put effort into this game.
> and I hardly get the login message that says that actions where taken against the above named players. Which is intended. Most players you report that end up punished will not trigger this message for you, which is an intentional choice.
Senshi86 (EUW)
: Matchmaking and report system utterly broken
Matchmaking is based on MMR, not current visible ranking. MMR is a more accurate representation of current skill, which is why it's better for this to be used. --- > Latest patch notes (9.6): Leaver buster is more generous towards players. Right. Make them leave even more often. You haven't actually read the improvements to LeaverBuster I suppose, because it doesn't say what you claim it says. The change is targetted to make it more accurate, and be a little more lenient if you come back and help your team win the game.
MAKYYYYYY (EUNE)
: UNBAN
Greetings. If your account is banned due to rule violations, it won't be unbanned again. Riot can't give you special treatment over other players.
Anärki (EUW)
: i have done and its still lvl5
And it still displays as mastery 5 ingame? You can reach out to support and have them look into it. [Submit a ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new).
Anärki (EUW)
: Bug will leveling Champ mastery
What happens if you relog?
Ryuukaze (EUW)
: Alert/Reminder about phishing.
While it's great that you make a post to warn people about phishing, please do not post the actual links. All it does it aid the people attempting to steal accounts in spreading their link around.
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