: > [{quoted}](name=Touki,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tflRGRmi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-30T16:03:49.350+0000) > > Well the samples are bit short amounted, but i don't think attacking farming skill is necessary He's attacking his whole team's skill...
Its not about skill but when every lane is losing hard there is nothing I can do. You have a suggestion?
Rioter Comments
: Solo Queue is not worth the grind for Plat+
Its always the same story man. I got 7 straigh wins and I get into promos for PLAT. Then I just got 10 defeats. So from promo to plat, I almost went down to Gold 2. Thats how it always has been. I am the same person that won the 7 games and then I get 10 loses that I didnt have anything to do with. Its so annoying cause this keeps happening. I went to promos even knowing this.
: Some more tilting from me ( most of u ignore this )
Well I got Chat restriction as well. The story is simple. Mid and jungler were duo. He camped mid. Mid end the game 3/8. The enemy jungler (evelyn) stayed for 20 minutes bot. I died at 1.30 cause noone cared to defend our red, so I was going to my lane the safe way. They were waiting in the bush and as I was reaching tower I got killed. Its okay, it happens. We move on, we barerly went out of tower and evelyn there, gets another kill and then under tower all the time. So botlane actually under the tower ended up 0/5 and 0/5. My ADC kept his cool. I ask the jungler if he plans on coming, no response. Then after Eve was able to 1 shot everyone, the MIDLANER writes on ALL chat. "Report botlane" and then I lost it. I didnt actually flamed him personaly, I was just negative cause I said "FF this now or I troll" (I never troll). They didnt FF apparently that duo, but having the premade flame and ask for us to be reported was the last thing i was expecting. Bottom line, I got the CR with honor locked and I cant even find out if they got the same punishment as me. Its stupid.It was the only game that I didnt insta mute the person that said something to me. Now I have to wait 3 months for my honor to be unlocked, again. Funny part is that I have reported a ton of people that write to me "get cancer" "Go kill yourself" and other really nice stuff and I check them and they are still playing teh game. I do not understand this system. Been negative gets more punished than death wishes.
GLurch (EUW)
: Well, yes, it all boils down to whether you win or lose. Stats don't matter, it'd be kinda hard to have a balanced MMR system taking scores in mind, seeing as there are so many diverse roles and ways of playing. There'd be just way too many statistics to consider. There are also some things that you can't really measure by any statistic at all, like for example when a Support has to sacrifice themselves to save their ADC. Aaand in the end, stats don't matter anyways, because the objective of the game is to win, not to amass a lot of kills or cs, even if they help with winning. The matchmaking system doesn't differentiate between the teammates it gives you and the enemies you get matched up with, so on average, your enemies should be just as good as your teammates. This means that in the end, you're the only one making a difference, so if you play better than the average person on your MMR, you'll automatically win more games and climb. Of course, there are exceptions to this, you may have a bad player every now and then and so may the enemy, or you may have a smurf mixed in your game, but if you're an average person with average luck, that shouldn't matter *on the long run* (even if it may over a short period of time). Does this mean you should just give up because your game is going bad? That depends on your point of view and how that specific game is going, but sometimes, it may be worth playing just 10 more minutes to have a small chance of turning the -15LP into a +20LP.
The thing is though that you can get for example 10 games in a row that you are losing mid and top. Even if me as ADC I am wining the lane, it will make no difference at all. The midlaner will just one shot me in 1 sec. So I am guessing I should just abandon been a main adc and main something else that can actually make a difference. I am going from gold 4 to gold 3, then I get like 10 games that people actually troll or they are just bad as hell and then I drop back to gold 4, then is up and down all the time and I am actually trying to find a way to handle this situation cause it seems like a waste of time trying to move to plat when you keep going up and down constantly. I am not saying that I am the best player or something, I just think I am decent, thats all.
Rioter Comments
Frog Fan (EUW)
: Survey on experiences of toxicity in League of Legends:
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Honor level 2 (How much time does it take?)
Okay let me help you out. I got C/R mid octomber. Got my honor unlocked around 10 november and I am at checkpoint 3 today. Do the math.
naskon (EUNE)
: Akali must be targetable when in stealth next to enemy tower.
Akali with shroud under tower, steps on Caitlyns trap, triggers the crit hit but you can NOT do it. So it makes Caitlyns traps useless. This makes no sense.
: I cant link twitch prime with LoL
Okay guys I got this response from Support and now that I did what they asked I have the capsule. Hope it helps you. "For our next step, we'll need you to go head on over to https://www.twitch.tv/settings/prime and provide us a screenshot of the full page as it appears (including your account name). This is meant as proof that you have ownership of a Twitch Prime account (as we can't check on our end). Once that happens, we'll be able to manually add the capsule to your account."
: Try with Microsoft Edge, i heard it works.
Tried all of them. Nothing works.
Sychers (EUW)
: Twitch Prime linking account for the crown capsule, need help..
I have the same problem. Talked with support and now I have an open ticket waiting to hear about it. When I hear I will let you know.
: > You are talking about lack of character, weakness of spirit, lack of discipline and you are not even AWARE that the majority of the players are underaged. I am not. Which gives me the right to go after those people through cyber crime for telling me "have cancer" or "f... your mother" or or or. Those things dont apply. If you are having a really bad run and one underaged kid attacks you cause he feels so, cause he doesnt care about consequences, you might just lose it. You can say you should know better, and I do know better but it can happen. I am not a robot, we are not in Spartan society. Is it SOOO hard to just mute ? To realise that the kid that's insulting your close relatives is just a typical case of mental illness, and move on ? When we create out accounts, we sign a contract, the TOS. We agree to all of it. As an adult, you probably know how contracts function. You break it's rules, you're out. I am nearly 30, working in the field of chemical engineering since a good couple of years. Contracts are like the holy bible for us. You don't respect one small thing, the investor might go somewhere else, and you don't get payed, AT ALL. Players here, should understand, that you only compromise your own account. You can't fight mentally ill children over the internet. Why risk getting banned, if you can mute + report after ? I mean it's so much easier. It's not like the offender has ANY influence over the outcome of your life. He doesn't know who you are, he can't reach you IRL etc. He just types random shit, under the veil of internet anonymity. You say you're an adult. Act like it. How many adults you see arguing/fighting with kids on the street ? I give my time more importance, than to waste it arguing with a 12 year old, who could easily be my child. That you lost your shit, that's completely on you buddy. I never judged you personally, but I do think it's a sign of weak character, if one feels the ABSOLUTE NEED to retaliate, on the internet - that again has ZERO impact on one's life, and can be turned off with the press of ONE BUTTON. Lastly, in life sometimes you have to do certain things. A man has to do, what a man has to do. If you break the TOS, because absolutely felt the need to, I even understand that._** I can respect it to an extent**_. But then stand the f#$k by your choice, and take the hit that you receive, like a man. When you see others with the ranked icons, victorious skin, tell yourself : I had to do it, I am proud of what I did, f#$k the rewards, I feel better with the choice I have taken. Don't try to justify it tho. This isn't a nazi death-camp and it's rules. It's a freaking game, and trust me, neither me, nor my friends have been punished in any possible way, in the past couple of years. Actually there are MORE unpunished players, than punished ones. So the argument with "I'm not a robot" doesn't really work, since apparently more than 50% of the server is robots... LOL You can't change my mind on this topic. I had this argument with many people over the time period I was on these boards (I see that you're pretty new here, judging by your post count, so you don't know me yet). I am not an unfair person, but I tend to be a bit strict, that's how I was raised, that's how I will raise my own children. I hope you stick around on the forum, after this thing blows off, we need all the people we can get. I will respectfully end this argument, since I feel like all points that could have been made, have been exhausted already. No need to waste more time then necessary, over an internet dispute. I hope yo succeed in getting to honor 2, good luck with it ! See you on the boards. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Its not retaliation, its responding. It can get bad by just responding. Thing is you SEE what someone typed for you. I allready tried to have my chat perma block so I dont have to read anything at all. Its not about weak or not. It has to do with the moment you snap. the TOS you are talking about has a wide range of what you can say or not to someone. Anything can be justified as flame/toxic or whatever. You cant really be objective about "TOXIC". Anyway, you have your point of view, I have mine. See ya.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=00000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T13:36:12.212+0000) > > The comparison you make cant stand. We are talking about a game, we are talking about behaviours. You cant compare these 2 things. You didnt kill someone. Someone got insulted in a VIDEO GAME. Stop comparing apples with UFO's. Come on. Sorry, but it is the same principle, whether you like it or not, for every online game in this world.
It cant be cause there are 2 totally different things.
Rioter Comments
: Hm... I will have to disagree with some of your points there. > So you think that a player that after 5 years in the game gets a C/R in octomber (first one in 5 years) doesnt deserve to get a reward? First off, I consider time/money spent, or rank irrelevant, when it comes to Riot's justice system. You're suggesting a bias there, gotta be careful with those. I understand that you want to make your point look stronger by using this fallacious argumentative strategy, still, I'd rather not. A lvl 1 new player MUST have the same rights, as a player that was around for 8 years. And what I was suggesting, was that UNSTAINED, totally clean accounts, get some recognition, over those who reform. And I'm not talking about the ward skin here. I want to be able to show off, that I was am an honorable player, who hasn't broken ANY RULES (that are punishable) in the past FOUR YEARS. I want riot to think about "pleasing" players like me as well, not just the problematic ones. If there are no drawbacks to getting a chat ban, from the point of view of seasonal rewards, why should I try my best, not to answer to that 1/17 zilean mid's flame ? Because it takes some serious energy not to. It is a 100 times easier, to retaliate, than to let something go. _**I am a human being as well, and I have an EGO too. **_ **** > You could have been in the same possition, you just didnt get reported for "toxic" or whatever reason. Secondly, seems that you don't really know me. So getting to conclusions like that, might be a bit misleading. _**NO, I COULD HAVE NOT**_ been in the same position, since I do a small trick I learnt back in the day. #I ONLY USE THE CHAT FOR POSITIVE FEEDBACK (LIKE GJ, CARE, ETC), AND TO DO OBJECTIVE SHOTCALLING. **** > What someone considers as toxic cant really be objective. Some people can take it, some people get offfended by a "wtf" post. There is nothing that can make you figure it out. Riot TOS is pretty clear. There is a pretty "visible" line, between bannable toxicity, and joking around / friendly (or competitive banter). You will NEVER get punished, for making someone offended, if he overreacted about something. "WTF look at shamrock Malphite's head !!! Such an ugly skin LOL" - even if you get 9 reports for that, 100 games in a row, the system won't punish you, since you said nothing bannable. **** > You can actually make fun to another player and he can decide to get offended instead of have fun back. I am not talking about insulting someone directly. And that is completely the player's problem. Until the point that you follow some STRICT GUIDELINES - your account will not be compromised, in any possible way. HARD - Flaming, on the other hand, shows lack of character and weakness of spirit / lack of discipline. And there should definitely be some more drawback to the punishment, than getting a 10 game restriction, that LITERALLY EVERYBODY just "farms out" on intro bot-games. And yes, I do play quite a lot of botgames, perhaps too many, for a diamond player, what can you do LOL ... 7 out of 10 bot-games, 3 people go all mid, to "end faster" because of their restriction. #Do you really want punishments to be just a momentarily drawback, without any future consequences ?
1. Time spent on the game should make no difference. I only pointed out the clean 5 years to show that I am not a toxic player. It just happened. You are talking about energy and how hard is for you to keep it clean. Yes it is the same for all of us. When you get 20 games in a row that people flame/feed intentionally at some point you lose it. You might be mr perfect but that doesnt apply to the majority. People have temper and some times they cant hold it. I am not here to be judged by you if I dont deserve something because I am not as good as you to hold my temper. It happens, deal with it. It doesnt happen only in games, it happens in real life as well. When you grow older you have more problems than just someone feeding in a game. Yes that thing though could trigger you. We are not robots, you are talking about robots. 2. I dont get to conclusions about you, thus the "YOU COULD" part. I use the chat to make fun with teammates or with funny names on enemy team. Thats it. The reason I got the C/R was because i was provoked. I didnt initiate it, I just had to respond. So I dont know you of course, but you dont know me. So chill. 3. If you say for example "WTF are you doing" this can be tolerated as toxic behaviour. If you say I am gonna report you, thats considered as toxic behaviour, even though you have the option to do so. Saying it, its toxic. Go figure. For example if someone 1 shots me or outplays me hard I might respond with a "FU zed :D" this is clearly funny but the other guy can just report me for insulting him, or even a teammate can do so, cause he felt so. Can you see the thin line there? 4. You are talking about lack of character, weakness of spirit, lack of discipline and you are not even AWARE that the majority of the players are underaged. I am not. Which gives me the right to go after those people through cyber crime for telling me "have cancer" or "f... your mother" or or or. Those things dont apply. If you are having a really bad run and one underaged kid attacks you cause he feels so, cause he doesnt care about consequences, you might just lose it. You can say you should know better, and I do know better but it can happen. I am not a robot, we are not in Spartan society. Bottom line, there should be a warning about it. "we are receiving too many reports about your behaviour, next there is gonna be a punishment if your behaviour continues the same". Simple as that. I am not asking for double standars, but you cant out of the blue give me a C/R in octomber, when to get back to honor 2 you need at least 3 months. Its simple as that and you are actually trying to make it that we live a in perfect world, LoL has the perfect community, and people dont have feelings. All those are wrong. Accept it.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T12:54:53.467+0000) > > 1. As for the rewards, I think it shouldnt be so harsh for someone that gets a chat restriction once in 5 years. Its a char restriction, not a 2 week ban for something else. There should be a warning that you are going towards that punishment, so people could get a chance to avoid typing anything. Which in these days its true. Anyone can get insulted by anything, so the best way to avoid a chat restriction is by typing NOTHING. > > 2. For the matchmaking of flex, I consider it faulted because it can match up a botlane of premade BRONZE (solo Q higher rank) vs a platinum 2 (solo Q rank). He might be also bronze in FLEX but he still is a platinum player, which makes it too easy for him to snowball from botlane and just take the game. You disagree on this? Do you think a Judge will go easy on me if i kill or beat the shit out of someone right now? Just because i have a 26 years of clean record? No that won't happen, i'll get exactly the same punishment i deserve. Same rules apply in a videogame, it's a virtual world, you've broken their rules, therefore you got punished. A clean record is the most stupid excuse for someone to go berserk once in 5 years.
The comparison you make cant stand. We are talking about a game, we are talking about behaviours. You cant compare these 2 things. You didnt kill someone. Someone got insulted in a VIDEO GAME. Stop comparing apples with UFO's. Come on.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=0000000100000001,timestamp=2018-11-14T11:22:06.134+0000) > > How am I a minority? You think I am asking for something special there just for me? I think most of the people want a better system. Well, there's always place for BETTER, but you have to be more specific about it, like concepts that work, are better and would benefit everyone, not just yourself. It is really easy to say "I want better" without giving a constructive feedback or posting a concept, right? And while better for you means better for you, it doesn't necessarely mean better for myself.
1. As for the rewards, I think it shouldnt be so harsh for someone that gets a chat restriction once in 5 years. Its a char restriction, not a 2 week ban for something else. There should be a warning that you are going towards that punishment, so people could get a chance to avoid typing anything. Which in these days its true. Anyone can get insulted by anything, so the best way to avoid a chat restriction is by typing NOTHING. 2. For the matchmaking of flex, I consider it faulted because it can match up a botlane of premade BRONZE (solo Q higher rank) vs a platinum 2 (solo Q rank). He might be also bronze in FLEX but he still is a platinum player, which makes it too easy for him to snowball from botlane and just take the game. You disagree on this?
: As an honorable player, I feel that this move isn't the best one Riot could have taken. I mean, is it really a single ward skin, that separates players who played 100% by the rules, from those who told 37 different people to hang themselves ? Not sure I like it to be perfectly honest with you. PS : I estimate a -30 for my post, taking the fact that 80% of the forum user-base is here to complain about punishments {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
That is sad to read. So you think that a player that after 5 years in the game gets a C/R in octomber (first one in 5 years) doesnt deserve to get a reward? How that affects you? You could have been in the same possition, you just didnt get reported for "toxic" or whatever reason. What someone considers as toxic cant really be objective. Some people can take it, some people get offfended by a "wtf" post. There is nothing that can make you figure it out. You can actually make fun to another player and he can decide to get offended instead of have fun back. I am not talking about insulting someone directly.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=I am Legendaddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8xuj6ugx,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-11-13T09:17:50.003+0000) > > Well the system aint perfect either dude. For example my C/R (first in so many years) got me off my rewards cause it takes ages to get to honor 2. For me this system is bad. Not much I can do, since a simple C/R as my first offence ever gets me that. On the other hand, lets talk about flex. The rank you get the matchmaking according to the rank you have in flex. For example my friend was silver and I was gold. I check my jungle which was really bad or my botlane and I see bronze 3. I check enemy jungler or bot and I see PLAT. Cause in flex they are bronze/silver they get the matchup with teh same rank, but MY botlane is bronze everywhere, and he is bronze just in FLEX cause he never played. Solo Q they are plat. Thats kinda broken if you ask me. It can be really frustrating to try and try and just because you are unlucky you have lower ranks in your team. For YOU, it might be bad, but if it's good for 100 other players, then you're a minority. This game shouldn't run based on personal prefferences, because if you take it like that, i would also like a game without Chat and no Yasuo, Katarina, Zed, Fizz, Leblanc etc. but that's MY PERSONAL prefference and it SHOULD NOT be taken into account!
How am I a minority? You think I am asking for something special there just for me? I think most of the people want a better system.
: (CLUB) player reforming
Wont help. I get a friend request from a player that we won a game. Telling me how good i was bla bla bla. After a couple of days we go in game together and out of the blue he starts flaming me cause I didnt do what he expected me to do. So, I am sorry but I dont see how that can help.
DarkG0d (EUNE)
: What you explain is exactly how it is. when someone cant climb or gets banned automatically makes the game a dying game. (no research , not numbers no nothing). but hey the world need losers dont it? Edit: By losers I dont mean people that cant climb, I mean those who give up and convince them self's that the system is in wrong and not them
Well the system aint perfect either dude. For example my C/R (first in so many years) got me off my rewards cause it takes ages to get to honor 2. For me this system is bad. Not much I can do, since a simple C/R as my first offence ever gets me that. On the other hand, lets talk about flex. The rank you get the matchmaking according to the rank you have in flex. For example my friend was silver and I was gold. I check my jungle which was really bad or my botlane and I see bronze 3. I check enemy jungler or bot and I see PLAT. Cause in flex they are bronze/silver they get the matchup with teh same rank, but MY botlane is bronze everywhere, and he is bronze just in FLEX cause he never played. Solo Q they are plat. Thats kinda broken if you ask me. It can be really frustrating to try and try and just because you are unlucky you have lower ranks in your team.
Monks (EUNE)
: Community events tournament prizes takes too long.
What tournaments are those and how you can take part?
: Lets talk about honor and punishments
1. The system is crap if you ask me. When you get reported for been toxic, they should check the full logs of what pushed you to be toxic. In other words check also the person that reported you if he was toxic and ban him as well if you want to be fair. Majority of people get triggered from other people. They dont just lash out after they die. 2. You cant define toxic that simply. Toxic can be someone just annoying you by talking all the time, do this, do that, pings, telling you how to play. The same person from another point of you can be helpful because he is trying to make you better. If you believe that you are better than him THEN he is TOXIC. You see how small the difference is? For example I use words like "FU", for example "FU zed :D" for killing me in aram lets say. I dont say that in a bad way, its just teasing. BUT ZED can just report me cause he doesnt get jokes or because he finds it offensive. It all has to do with prespective. Toxicity cant be defined because they are no actual rules/limits that you brake. Just some random system/ random guy that sees the word "FU" or "Fock" or "WTF" and decides you deserve a ban. So just a broken system. 3. Progress in that system is bad. Most of my time I play with a friend which in most cases we honor each other, or in ranked we honor the player that was the best in our team, or if I am ADC and my support is decent, I usualy honor them. It takes ages to get to the next level of honor whcih is disturbing that it can go down to 1 for a chat offence (read above the broken system). I dont really care about the honor or the rewards, its just annoying that it has to be so brutal. It doesnt make a point if you ask me, cause if I was lashing out before, now that you took away my rewards, most propably i would lash out more and stop caring. Bottom line I requested from support to REMOVE or BAN permantly my CHAT. I dont want to use it, I dont want to see what people type. They refuse to do that and they sent me to MUTE button. Which is not helpful, since I can just unmute and hard flame or get triggered. So again a company that cant really make it easy for its players on a minor request as of removing the CHAT as a whole. Its a game, I dont want underaged kids that RIOT cant control lashing out to me. I am aware that I can take logs from the game and direct them to a cyber crime agency and then get in trouble both RIOT and the parents of the underaged kid. But who actually would bother to do that?
: Attempting to reconnect while internet works fine.
Rioter Comments
: Petition to have the option to disconnect from CHAT server
Do you have the option for VOICE CHAT? YES. You have the option to have it on and OFF. I dont get it why you people are rejecting this idea as a whole. I only ask to have the same option as VOICE chat. My Voice chat is OFF at all times. I use other programs to communicate with the people I want to. I just ask for the same option to be available. I dont get the grief about it. It wont cost anything to you people and I am not taking away anything from you. Its just an option. You can have it all at all times and be as mature and smart as you want, seems I am not as good as you at handling my temper. I dont get the downvotes on a thing that it will be just available for any user to use it as it wants. Thats it.
Kringe (EUNE)
: > People can still tilt you. A tough nut to crack you must be, eh? Why would you feel the need to respond or comment on anything? Can't just play the game and only talk about the game without flaming? God that must be so hard, I wonder how so many people manage to do it. Just because people don't have the manners to stop themselves from insulting others doesn't mean somebody else should do it for them. So no, they should never add this feature, as a matter of fact, they should make the system even less forgiving, this way players never learn and just go on to do the same, make more accounts and don't **really** care about the consequences.
Its an option. You dont have to bring it on to me just because I propose it. I want to be able to block the whole chat. I dont want to see things from people I dont know. Mostly from under aged kids that do that constantly. I want the option. This aint a school to teach me not to tilt or whatever, its a game. Its an option and the "NO" you called has no meaning cause it has no point. You can always have your chat on and I can always have it off. Whats the big deal?
Hansiman (EUW)
: > This way we will avoid bans that are considered "flame" from their system The easiest way is to simply not flame. That way, you won't have to worry.
People can still tilt you. That way we take away that option since we dont have to read what other people say. Its an option. Doesnt do any harm and I dont know why you could possibly oppose this.
Rioter Comments
Gnarcotic (EUNE)
: A question regarding honor
Someone needs to honor you. Bots wont do that :D
Log Dog (EUNE)
: A question about ranked rewards and honor
You have untill november 12. Its impossible. I got C/R too and my honor after 15 days is still locked at lvl 1. So I wont make it. Borders are part of the season rewards, you wont get even them. Whole year is gone because you got C/R.
: Riot is giving you leavebuster when you dont afk or quit?
Well, in my experience, I dodged a couple of games cause people where fighting in the lobby or they had picks that I didnt think will work, then I got a power out in the same day, also I think at that point I got a DC in the game ( i never get DCs), I tried to reconnect, i was getting a black screen, tried again, restarted client, tried again same black screen, I restarted, I get into the game, and I saw the game was done and I got marked and I had to wait for the next games, I dont remember teh waiting time. But I am sure that it wasnt my fault that the game gave me the black screen. So I am guessing there is no way to check if YOU left the game or the game had some bug or problem. So yea everything adds up and u get the penalty.
: He got banned because he asked the other players to report olaf THATS IT. (For more thats one hell of a re-tarded reason to punish someone but w/e)
But C/R takes everything away. I am still honor locked after more than 10 days, which means next year I might get unlocked or honor 2. I think the system is something like "he said fock trolls" well ban him. "He said report that guy", toxic, ban him. And when someone just feeds? Its ok everyone has bad days...I agree everyone has, not for 13 of my games in a row. I dont call that entertaining but frustrating. But lets ban the people that ASK for reports, instead of the people that make them to ask about it. There is no logic.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >Thing is that if you show that behaviours for 4 years and then for one incident you have your honor locked jjust days before the end of the season seems unfair. the question here is if you could behave for 4 years then why did you broke the rules now? this is why i think this system is good, you must behave well constantly to keep the rewards, not just grinding it up then going toxic (even if it means only 1 game) >It also seems unfair that in order to reach lvl 2 you will need months. From what I read it can take up to 5-6 months to get past lvl 1, which seems so unfair when your prior behaviour was just fine. it does not take months, it only depends on your behavior, not using the chat at all wont help you going up in honor, but being positive in chat actively can help lvling honor faster, and honoring others/everyone honoring someone will boost your honor gain too >The whole deal is about the boarder icon that shows you made your goal. getting to a specific rank means nothing if you got up there being toxic as hell, watch any sport/games/etc and youll see that they have respect for others even if they beat them or get beaten >So, its only me that considers this punishment system broken or you think I am just whining for not getting the rewards? You agree with half a year block on the rewards? I mean why stop there, why not derank someone back to bronze? Why not perma ban instantly? I can go on but there is no point. nope, you are not the only one whining, everyone who got punished whines about it being "broken" and "unfair", i dont have any problem reaching lvl 5 and i dont have any problem keeping it at lvl 5, no punishments=no drop in honor, its that easy
Cause matchmaking is crap and it tilts you when for 10 games in a row you get feeders. I am not talking about 3/9 I am talking about 0/17 0/15 0/12 in every of those games and I can proove that. Yes then you tilt, it happens to everyone. I am not a robot. It does take months. I was hardstuck on lvl 2 for 4 months. I am not toxic as hell. When I lose, i lose, thats it. It is unfair cause after 10+ days its still locked. I am not gonna go in chat and suck up to people so they might honor me. There is no point in that and I am not that kind of a person. Why would a game force me to act like that when there is a stranger that I am talking to and I would be lieing if I talk nice things to him for the only reason to get his honor after teh game? I didnt grow up learning to suck up to people to get what I want. Maybe thats the difference between us mate, and I say this in the best way possible.
: Did Riot delete the warning System they had beforehand?
Smerk (EUW)
: Ranked borders will work differently next season, borders aren't a part of season rewards anymore. So it doesn't matter if you're honor level 5 or 0 you still won't get that border ;)
But now they are part of the season rewards. Which means people with honor level 2 or lower they wont get it.
: Riot said that the honor system shouldn't feel too much of a grind but more of a System that is just there, a little bonus. I think combining it with the punishment system was the biggest bs move Riot ever made. Getting Honor lvl 1 (which is not hard to be honest because there's no real chart of what actually is toxic and not) makes the whole thing feel like a grind especially if it happens close before Season end. The only Question then is how many games do i need to grind to get my rewards back. The worst thing is that till today we still don't know which factors even account into honor. Does it matter how many games i play? Or is it just a waste of time to spam 20 Arams a day to get my rewards back? Are Checkpoints locked to 1 per patch? Or can i get more than one? Do i get less honor for playing more and more honor for playing less? There are so many things Riot isn't telling us because ''we don't want an abuse for the system to be created''
You are so right about this.
neropa (EUNE)
: Would you think it is fair if you would still get ranked rewards?
I would consider it fair if it didnt have months and months to go back at where you were.
neropa (EUNE)
: It can be pretty harsh because you can get punished for 1 bad day, but i still think its fair. Nobody wants to flame when there is a risk of losing a honor level. And if you lose it once time im pretty sure you dont want to do it again. Atleast i dont.
Still its a punishment for months. Even if you didnt use bad words or been racist or anything. It takes you away a years work for been "toxic". I dont consider it fair but its your opinion.
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RallerenP (EUW)
: > They dont know all the players. Its just that the other players know them cause they are famous streamers. Of course. And it's up to each player in the game to report toxic behaviour, *if they want to*. > Anything that is against the rules, should get punished. That's not Riots stance, nor most peoples stance. It is widely agreed upon that if no one is affected, there is no reason for punishment. If you're affected by it, then you submit a report at the end of the screen after playing with them. But if *you* try to go to Riot to report it, they just wont do anything. You didn't play with the streamers, you have no way of knowing if anyone they played took offence to the toxicity. And even if they *did* take offence to toxicity, *they'd* have to report it, not you.
So you are saying that it all has to do with if someone gets affected by what a player is saying. So the player that reported me because i ASKED for him to be reported and for using the word "WTF" he gots affected because we all know that WTF is the worst word you can use in the chat. As I said the toxic part can NOT be objective since there are no real borders that define that. It all has to do with how someone feels. Which is full of crap if you ask me.
AsherUA (EUW)
: In bronze-gold (and prob plat) elo people are reporting everyone for the stupidest reasons which in 99% cases aren't even worth mentioning. After getting few reports in a row, system automatically 'rewards' you with ban/restriction. In dia+ people don't do this. It's not that they don't do this, they just don't care. As for bans, check out the hashinshin (the most recent one I know of). He literally got banned for 1 (one) game where he went 0/19 (even Riot support said that, when he asked them). Even though it wasn't intentional, he was just trying to understand why everyone's playing that champ on that role and with that setup. So, you probably, don't even understand yourself what you're talking about.
Sure. Hashinshin is a known toxic/flamer/inting person man. You propably have no idea what you are talking about. I have seen tons of him hard flaming all his team because he gets camped. People actually know that he reacts like that, thats why they camp him. All the time he is flaming someone. That ban was just an excuse for something he had coming for ages now.
: > So yea congrats and you do have double standards. Prove it. >Yes I am still mad after 20 days for such poorly behaviour from RIOT. Respect the TOU you agreed to follow and you'll have nothing to fear.
its just 14 days till the season end. There is nothing I can do mate. Honor is still locked and I will need level 2. Which I consider impossible in so few days.
RallerenP (EUW)
: > I believe that if you are a famous streamer you only get punished for whatever you do after youve reached the maximum of the violations. I watch a lot of streamers and the language they use in their chat (not talking about the stream) is offensive as hell. Have you considered the possibility that they just aren't getting reported? Most of the time when streamers 'trash talk' they do so to players they know. (Since the most popular streamers tend to be in high ELO)
They dont know all the players. Its just that the other players know them cause they are famous streamers. Anything that is against the rules, should get punished. Do I have to search it and report it riot? Cause its obvious they have knowledge of that.
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