VIT Laati (EUNE)
: There already is a ranked place for those who die 15 times on average and / or run it down mid. It is called Bronze. And in the next season, Iron. No need to artificially split those who play Soraka and those who play champions like Fiddlesticks that tend to go ham.
I dont agree with a system which seperates soraka from agressive junglers or adcs but there might be average death considered for each class and each kind of champ. For example if a tank top laner average death is 7 in all elos and in all games. Players who have average 9 deaths shouldnt match with people whose average death is 3. There is a visible skill gap between them and that is mostly caused by eloboost/ account sharing. Eloboosted or account shared ppl usually die more than usual and that is cause of skill gap. And average death is a good indicator seperating them from real players who deserve their own elo.
: > And yet no Rioter bothers to write anything about this issue. i would give it a min or 10-30 b4 there is a response from them explaining this or saying that it will get fixed somehow
This issue is here for more than 8 hours and this post is here for 8 hours...
: Today's Patch Has Trojan in it Riot WTF?
And yet no Rioter bothers to write anything about this issue.
  Rioter Comments
: Play Aatrox Like Nukeduck
If you dont bother fixing your broken match-making system in silver-gold-plat-diamond elo. Nobody will even bother playing this game in Season 9-10.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: Top Tips for Playing Bot Lane Post-8.12
If you dont bother fixing your broken match-making system in silver-gold-plat-diamond elo. Nobody will even bother playing this game in Season 9-10.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: The {{item:3146}} rush was expected just by looking to her kit.
True that but after that item there is no core item settled yet. You can go {{item:3152}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3116}} all seems fine to me but dunno which item will be core for 2nd item slot for AP KAISA
: Well she is designed to work as either ad, ap or both... so of course it works
Yea but is Kai'sa able to 1 shot ppl 1v1 like other HExtech/ap build champs or not that is what i wonder.
: yes. good luck getting full build by 20mins as jg kaisa tho :) in a real situation, it won't work.
OK. {{champion:33}}
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D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Nida will have an easy time in the jungle has she gets resets for every small stuff she kills there Meaning raptors and krugs die insanely fast compared to others(she and olaf will prob still be top tier in clear speed)
yeh fast but nida lose hp more than any other junglers in early stage and her heal is just not enough. So she might struggle in red side imo. Not sure thou gotta test it first.
: > [{quoted}](name=Malkavian999,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=eITEQyZ6,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-11-01T21:33:10.221+0000) > > The route you describing is not for all junglers dude. good for sustain junglers but for exp Talon if he follows that path he will be half hp and lvl 3 max. half hp lvl 3 gank to bottom lane is suicide... Who plays talon jungle >.<
in season 6 nobody but in season 7 'everybody' will play him if he is not banned :) assassin rework baby :)
: Dude that route is shit. Far better to start blue>wolves>red then gank or b and then do a full clean from red side.
The route you describing is not for all junglers dude. good for sustain junglers but for exp Talon if he follows that path he will be half hp and lvl 3 max. half hp lvl 3 gank to bottom lane is suicide...
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: The thing is normals arent vonpetetive enough to actually practice stuff AND its also the fact that if you play on silver lvl as jgl you wont ruin silver games lol
Agree, Since ppl dont gain anything from playing normal games, ppl just dont tryhard so you get absolutely nothing by plaing normal games. They (normal game players) also for some reason flame more. Normal games are terrible to improve your skills.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: I was talking about the first jungle clear. AP junglers will only have one ability to start with and their autos arent that strong, not to mention some buy the ap regen rather than the machete as their first item. Once they recall to base, it will be easier, but AP jungler will still have it hard.
zac/diana/seju/ekko can clear good even in the first rotation without problem. But single target mages will struggle hard as you mentioned.
: > [{quoted}](name=Malkavian999,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=eITEQyZ6,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-11-01T09:28:39.363+0000) > > Imo even though it is laggyon PBE you can create custom games to try our the jungle route to master it. Since it has many changes. Now you can heal yourself with a plant in river. You can jump to any directions with red flowers and you can get instant view advantage. So try it out on custom games then go for the PBE normal games. I cant play on the pbe :( {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Dont worry Pre-season will be enough to practice anyway :)
: What? My karthus jungle will be stronger than ever as far as I can see.
yeh clearing full jungle now gives 5 lvl too might be great for karthus to get 6. It will be good for any utility champion imo.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: Helpful guide indeed, AP junglers will get destroyed though.
But on the other hand most ap junglers have aoe damage which allows them to clear red>krugs etc and with runic echoes red side will not be problem for them.
Riryz (EUW)
: dont forget "golems" aka "krugs" and "gromp" spawn 15 seconds later. might as well start blue and red again. although i think blue will be best since you can just run to gromp after doing blue but doing krugs is gonna drain your hp way to fast.
True that that is why I implied it on video. Easier to understand. Red side is alot harder than blue side now. Also krug is very dangerous camp now. Bad clear makes you lose your entire hp.
: I want to try jungle as my new primary role. Should i wait with it until pbe to try things out because its to different?
Imo even though it is laggyon PBE you can create custom games to try our the jungle route to master it. Since it has many changes. Now you can heal yourself with a plant in river. You can jump to any directions with red flowers and you can get instant view advantage. So try it out on custom games then go for the PBE normal games.
Rioter Comments
Serage (EUW)
: Akali PBE Changes / Calculations
Right now as I test the new Akali more I think if Riot doesnt change Akali at all it would be the best rework ever! Leave Akali alone RIOT go ruin another champion. You nerfed Akali several times already.
Nar7ia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=glrV00he,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-10-24T10:10:34.293+0000) > > Also the idea of the entire update is to slow assassins down so they don&#x27;t burst in 0.5 seconds but instead need to out play to get kills. Ughh.. they have buffed kha/rengar on horrible levels it seems. I am not as worried about other assassins as I am about kha/rengar. Right now kha is already strong , I literally got deleted under my turret by a kha few days ago in about 1 sec (thnx to top/jungler for those 8 kills they fed him in 20 min) and they have massively buffed kha's Q on pbe. I have seen videos of some youtubers running with huge amount of ad (800+) on rengar and just ult-right clicking someone for kills on pbe. I seriously hope riot knows what they are doing and doesn't screw up this time.
Since you dont know I gotta mention that those champs will not be problem wait until you see new Talon's burst damage :)
: Remember that pinks no longer detecting her in her W is a massive buff to her which means these nerfs are to balance this out. Also the idea of the entire update is to slow assassins down so they don't burst in 0.5 seconds but instead need to out play to get kills. Akali is no different, with her defensive tool becoming reliable she can now be pushed into a hit and run play style where she does a combo, stealths, then combos again, rinse and repeat. So she isn't gonna be one shotting people but she can get multiple combos off in a fight while being safe in her shroud.
PPL in higher elo (I mean diamond 1 and above) was not even rely on her w. W is only used for juking in brushes and for speedup. So buffing w by giving it not visible by pinks and teleporting short distance is only a buff if you are low elo player. When you give buff to benefit only low elo players why nerf the heck out of other skills for just 1 w buff? that makes no sense. Also w duration nerfed really hard and in that time your cooldowns doesnt even reset anymore which makes it more pointless.
Angeł (EUW)
: q is the same, e and w are buffed, passive and ult are nerfed.
q is same, E is not buffed e is nerfed. They buffed damage but nerfed cooldown big time. In max lvl akali e cd was 1 second and it is 3 seconds now! that is a 2/3 damage nerf :) w looks like buffed but it is nerfed big time. duration nerfed to half and w was what makes you farm on lanes. passive nerfed big time and ult nerfed.
: Truth is ..her e >q combo should come back. It.s a champion that got one ability which is not only bad for her kit but also mess up her combo (you r and if you press e you will cancel your aa which pros your q). I don't think she will be playable as assasin.Her combo is really slow ( 2 aa at teamfights with a paper champ lol ). Tank akali inc. Yes it is not a good assassin rework (i love rest reworks to be honest) . Her kit bad for me really boring,.Her e must be changed totally .Remove and make another ability. Don;t worry in 3 seasons she may get a rework :P
They also nerfed Tank Akali dude. Her (E) cooldown on max lvl is now 3 seconds instead of 1 second. Tank Akali was only playable since you could build some ad and spam e (the only ad scaling skill of Akali) now it is also gone... Also which makes Akali tank unkillable was her passive which is gone also.
Rioter Comments
Metharius (EUW)
: his shield is enouth to perma tank inib tower if not nexus tower ...
: Then what about Nami?
If her skill with 3 bubbles works for thornmail/sunfire damage it might be doable imo
: Just Heimer and Garen should outregen the dmg from Nashor at fullbuild({{item:3075}}{{item:3065}} {{item:3068}} +health regen runes and/or magic pen runes
Garen cant heal himself with passive while taking hit from Baron or can he? Is it triggered if not attacked by champions or smth?
: Maybe I 'm missing something.. But why sona?
Self heal + Enough Hp regen with armor build makes her live forever. Gives her enough time to solo baron with Thornmail + Sunfire.
Zeromatsu (EUW)
: {{champion:3}}
Yea could be, his self shield heals him right? The question is if it is enough to heal him for a full solo baron :) Great idea thou.
: Interesting but sadly pointless in actual games.
OFc It is pointless for a normal or ranked games. Nobody wants to solo baron without attacking it anyway? :) But if you are wise enough with same build you can do miracles vs full ad teams :) Since Baron damage is similar to that composition. :)
: {{champion:32}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:74}}
Heimer shouldnt count as Zero Shot Solo Baron imo but rest are interesting. Garen still doubtful since baron deals ad damage more than ap, so his MR will be kinda useless. But Amumu definately worth a try since his damage reduction is imba...
Rioter Comments
: thats build was so bad. instead of trinity take lichbane, much more damage, seeing as it scales off of ap, unlike trinity that scales with base ad. also insteead of warming take gunblade for the op heals, cause you have 6000 ap every w you'll heal for like 1000 hp, and then you also have the empowered aa from lich which would make for more heals. next kindred solo baron no items?
with your blade you cant solo baron in lvl 1 mate. believe me i tried alot of builds. Main problem is you are lvl 1 againist highest level baron since you need to stack ap. so your hp is the biggest issue. Tried lich bane on my fist try and couldnt survive so i builded some ap/hp items. you can try it yourself and see that lich bane total crap while soloing baron. also gunblade items dont give instant spellwamp anymore you know.
Quadias (EUNE)
: Riot nerf please.
Nah, pretty good at the moment shh :)
PDA Shift (EUW)
: This is wicked haha!
Draqone (EUW)
: Is this ranked viable? Edit: Gettign Hextech Gunblade would probably be more efficient than Warmogs by the way. You should get healed for about 300 HP for every W and about the same or more for every auto.
Tried it but actually need 800 hp to survive 1-2 baron hits. Being lvl 1 sucks. even if you get 300 hp with 1 hit you dont even survive :)
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Frostmane (EUW)
: Finally, a Jungler that might knock the almighty {{champion:64}} off the top spot for early game junglers. I was getting bored of seeing him anyway and him getting away with no getting a rework because of community bitching. Enjoy Malphazar, about time a mage was good at something.
Just played a game vs World's 500th Lee Sin and destroyed him by doin absolutely nothing :)
Overloard99 (EUNE)
: How many voidings can Malzahar have? I reached 7 of them when i was fighting dragon. Is that max?
yesterday I tried NAshor Tooth and bought one more cd item and I spawned more than 8 voidlings :)
Neonchan (EUW)
: "Let's talk about Malzahar Jungle" - never talks :D
Vharaj (EUW)
: Malza AD always was a more than decent jungler, but reworked Malzahar is pretty ridiculous. Not because of ganking or eveng cleaning camp times (he had that before) but the survivability his W gives him in the jungle and the relatively low mana costs... That's too much. I have no problem with meta shifting towards mages, but a guy who can enter the jungle, do every camp and emerge to gank as a level 4 without any HP missing? I have a friend who managed to get past the bans and picked Malzahar jungle. He didn't even buy potions, cleaned krugs, red, wolves, blue, ganked top (lost some HP while ganking but he entered lane to gank full HP), and when he killed the scuttle he was back to max HP. I think that's overdoing it with jungle sustain.
True that. Yesterday I managed to Solo Baron with only 3 items. And i was not overfed or anything...
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: yes, riot kept toning down the skill needed to play certain heroes: for example, ryze got capped to 5 spells per passive, but his Q got buffed to do more damage. zed and cho got an special indicator when their ultimates will kill the target lee got his energy management system changed to 75+25 return per auto attack instead of 50-50 to help the more casual players. Also +% bonus hp damage from the kicked target to the rest of their team was also made to accommodate for less skilled lee players. zyra putting seeds EVERYWHERE, also helps with "skills" ahri unable to stop dashes with charms was also a nerf for the good players and nothing as far as bad players are concerned I'm the type of player that likes less mechanics intensive champions (i dont play Zed or Leblank or Kalista), but riot is constantly dumbing shit down, even when unnecessary they did that to malzahar too, now playing malza jungle requires less skills than it used to do. No big surprise tbh.
Yeh and when they do it everybody plays champions jsut because he is op and they dont even need to worry about playing it right. taht is the sad part. Malz was one of my main mid champs and now he gets banned or gets picked by a really terrible player just because everybody thinks he is op and actually he is very op. 1 year ago we had this exact situation with Kassa. He was getting banned every single game just because riot buffed him way too much. And then they nerfed him way too much :)
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: you could also do that before rework with AD malzahar. That's not a change >.> it took practice to solo lv3 dragon, but it was really easy at lv4 (yes, without items) and his ganks were just as good as right now: press R and see stuff happen, but you generally wanted the slow smite so you could E Q the target and then press R. In this game case EQW the target and press R. Malza jungle didn't change much at all. Its not my fault you failed to notice he is really good at securing objects and ganking before rework
Yea I played AD malzahar jungle before so i know it. Before patch you had to kite jungle mobs and be careful about your skill sequence etc. Now you just have to press (E)+(W) on a random minion and auto attack. while voidlings killing jungle mobs and while you are healing you only have to watch :) Also soloing Dragon / Baron way more easier than before.
: he can also solo herald at levels 4-5 depending on itemization
Herald resets that is the problem. There is no problem with damage even with no items :)
Overloard99 (EUNE)
: How many voidings can Malzahar have? I reached 7 of them when i was fighting dragon. Is that max?
not sure if there is a max voidling. But there is cap for AS so basicly you can spam as much as you can at 8 secs mark. Voidlings last 12 secs and when 4 seconds left htye down spawn anymore. And that is basicly 6 or 7 max imo
: Well malza need nerf for sure i guess on voidlings otherwise i still would prefer him go mid. Rework need few tweeks for sure. I hope they will not make another abomination like graves who can practically play everything but suport...
Malzahar can play Top/Jungle/Mid now and i am pretty sure you can play him as adc with Triforce+Guinsoo+Nashor's Tooth :) Voidlings can outdps any adc anyway...
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