Rioter Comments
: won 3 games under 36 on of was 35:26 all aram btw
> [{quoted}](name=Insane Mana Junk,realm=EUNE,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=xxHY8wQ9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-04T23:51:32.289+0000) > > won 3 games under 36 on of was 35:26 > > all aram btw a friend of mine who played along with me the games had also the problem hoever games that counted for me did not for him while others that did not for me worked for him i am now 11 games in and finaly they started counting again <.< annyoing
Rioter Comments
: fix world mission
i have the same issue, i was at 26 yesterday today i did 4 new world missions, and my counter went nt 4 forward but 1 back, i am now at 25, and funny enough this has changed TWICE in the last few hours, so i was once at 24 and then 26 again without doing a single worlds quest since i had done them all already... can somebody fix this please???
Gnirk (EUW)
: The changes were totally unnecessary. Guess some Project Manager at Riot felt that all champs need reworks through a bad gauge of the crowd. They also failed to see the value in nostalgic looks. At least make the old looks available - but that's too much to ask right?
> [{quoted}](name=Gnirk,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JFq1t0L3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-25T20:58:19.105+0000) > > The changes were totally unnecessary. > > Guess some Project Manager at Riot felt that all champs need reworks through a bad gauge of the crowd. They also failed to see the value in nostalgic looks. At least make the old looks available - but that&#x27;s too much to ask right? i feel like the hair style went out the window, he looks like a jerk and he sounds like one too... its weard but they did the same to aatrox... before both have been arrogant and elevated somehow, now they are rly just loud jerks. and look base ezreal is okay i dont mind him cause thats rly just HD ezreal there, but the ultimate is a massiv fail and rly needs some finetuning or special treatment,.. i mean the thing costs like 20 bucks or so and i did pay alot for that thing. so i rly should be able to be ehard about my opinion. i did not get him from hextech sooo
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Irarius (EUW)
: Cant Connect to Odissey
and btw i tested this out in practice tool SR arams n stuff, all loads jsut fine, however i have now 2 games of odissey i straight got a leave, 2 games where i was afk for 5 minutes and 1 where i was instantly in the game also 1 where i got instantly in and my team surrendered because one guy had 3 instead of 2 augs... i dont even have that mission but whatever, this makes me mad
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ChocoParis (EUNE)
: This will just make so many balancing problems starting from the CD of these new runes. Then we have champions which can just abuse that as hell and at the end if they don't get OP they will be miserable compared to what we have.
> [{quoted}](name=ChocoParis,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=ikfiVJhc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-17T23:39:16.235+0000) > > This will just make so many balancing problems starting from the CD of these new runes. Then we have champions which can just abuse that as hell and at the end if they don&#x27;t get OP they will be miserable compared to what we have. read again i did not say runes SUMMONER spells
Rioter Comments
: They where removed for a reason. Wiggles got essentially reworked into the current bloodrazor enchantment, also has no room in the current jungle system... and bloodrazor is litterally just madreds bloodrazor, as is Bork so no need to add a 3rd item with the exact same stats and passive. Force of nature got replaced by warmogs,., won’t be readded. And I shouldn’t have to explain DFG given how broken it is. ___ This mode is meant to be a mess, it’s a 20 minute slug fest with limited balancing... so items like these can be readded for the sake of it... they have no place in SR though
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ns7IqFgs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-17T00:44:38.800+0000) > > They where removed for a reason. > > Wiggles got essentially reworked into the current bloodrazor enchantment, also has no room in the current jungle system... and bloodrazor is litterally just madreds bloodrazor, as is Bork so no need to add a 3rd item with the exact same stats and passive. > > Force of nature got replaced by warmogs,., won’t be readded. > > And I shouldn’t have to explain DFG given how broken it is. > > ___ > > This mode is meant to be a mess, it’s a 20 minute slug fest with limited balancing... so items like these can be readded for the sake of it... they have no place in SR though i will now disagree with you because wtf. madreds gave armor and ad, the jungle bloodrazor is weaker by only giving as and the % botrk gives ad as and lifesteal, sure thats cool, but madreds gave armor as ad and the %, all 3 do have a place in the game actually. also madreds did magic % dmg instead of ad, which made it imidiatly better force of natur does share the % healing, however warmogs is a after battle heal, while force give in battle heal. its the difference between mundos and garens passiv, so in total all the items do have a place also wriggles WAS a better solution for not just junglers but also toplaners because it granted a healtthy mix of stats. ALSO if they would treeat it like other midway items like orb, or lyandris mid item, or any other mid item. then this item could branch in two or three different items to give ap and ad a nice laning item that is nice to build in so dfg MIGHT be replaced by ludens, however i feel both could exist if DFG gets a bit of tweaking, i mean dfg did open up lots of ap builds for non ap champions, and thatw as what made it amazing. and that is what should stay. what the game NEEDS is the option to have options. different builds that offer different good things and stats the game right now is more or less buiy this 1 build other builds are crap. and you also most of the time start 1 champ with 1 item because there is no better variation to it. there was a time when one started with boots, or a health regen 15 per 5 item, or something else. but sadly it got nerfed or deleted. and this has to return no excuses with it got replaced, the result of that is that the game makes no fun and getting stale. you need variation and by making many of those passives unique with a name thery would be balanced
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CJXander (EUNE)
: Come with more original names
> [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=x3B1rgs3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-13T07:29:55.073+0000) > > Come with more original names i could rename him hensel
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: > [{quoted}](name=Irarius,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8c066oWi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-02T21:04:23.495+0000) > > it rly is not OK, why? The old one was a raspy dude that spouted cliche and poetry. The new one has a voice that befits a being of wrath and war, has deeper lines in which he is reflecting on his own existence, it which he is actually developed rather than him just being the essence of conflict.
> [{quoted}](name=The7thSeal,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8c066oWi,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-02T21:10:35.363+0000) > > OK, why? The old one was a raspy dude that spouted cliche and poetry. > The new one has a voice that befits a being of wrath and war, has deeper lines in which he is reflecting on his own existence, it which he is actually developed rather than him just being the essence of conflict. it is easy why the old aatrox voice and lines had been better, he was this more or less noble entety that was above everybody else, the way he talked was actually in such a way that you can believe that this thing doesnt give a damn, but tells you in the midsd of battle to press on, its just that you cannot apruciate it. what most aatrox fanst want is the old aatrox back, which doesnt mean this one has to be deleted, most of them want this to be a new champ instead because this is not aatrox no more and if you cannot respect that then i hope riot one day takes youre favorite champ, removes his personality, leaves no trace of the old kit or playstyle ( which did happen the first time until now with aatrox so dont bullshit me ) change it so its 100% no longer remotly what it was you loved , then we talk
: Hashinshin is potentially the most petulent LoL streamer out there. Yes, sometimes his opinion is on the money but the guy will literally complain about anything that doesn't conform to his skewed view of how the game should be. By the bye, Aatrox's new voice work is head and shoulders better than his original.
> [{quoted}](name=The7thSeal,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8c066oWi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-02T17:52:27.907+0000) > > Hashinshin is potentially the most petulent LoL streamer out there. Yes, sometimes his opinion is on the money but the guy will literally complain about anything that doesn&#x27;t conform to his skewed view of how the game should be. > By the bye, Aatrox&#x27;s new voice work is head and shoulders better than his original. it rly is not
Frøst (EUNE)
: Perma bans, toxic players, ban system, suggestion for unbanning accounts.
what i think is a good point is that there are 3 types of toxic ppl and that only 2 of them are actually toxic. Griefer / trolls and ppl who start the flame are a problem, this can trigger ppl hard sometimes the third one who reacts to thsi shit and rly wishes to tell them how dumb they are or something arent as toxic to me honestly im the third, and when i paly the game, and somebody just comes to me and starts taking all my stuff, feeds my lane for good mesure, or suicides for no aparent reason and my most hated one i have ever encountered, ever premate teams of 3 and more there is this thing some of them do, where they tell the enemy they wont attack them, or anything and let them proxy farm all lanes, as long as they search and kill you they will just let them slaughter you and report you if you die or go afk or anything. they literaly force you in a game to die and never even get llvld up. this actually happened to me several times, and i felt like a prisoner i should actually be allowed to tell them the worst names and all that stuff as much as i want, just ebcause i am forced by the you cant leave feature to play. i mean how unfair is this, you cant leave the base, since you instantly die, all youre teammates will run and steal jungle lane, and feed you of too youre enemys, harass you and you have to play this, and cant even call them bastards or leave the game. this is literaly a waste of up to 40-50 minutes of youre life also sometimes ppl do this and you cant go anywhere else since other non premates will also report you for * trolling* if you want to go to another lane or anything. stuff like this rly should allow me to go ham in the chat so i can do something.. like at all.
Big Tits (EUNE)
: ARURF needs a fix
also while im at it, i played kayn in this mode after like 20 plus games because the games are done faster then arams sometimes a total of 4 times each time i got kayn i solo crushed everybody 1v5 always full hp, i mean its fun sure, but i feel bad while i do it.. i had games that took 8 minutes... just because i had 3-4 complete items so fast nobody could hope to touch me, only another op sssssss tier champ could MAYBE kill me, speak yi... <.< man getting it out my system feels good... so winning rly boils down to, did i get lucky myself or my team? who got the most shit or trolls. did somebody get one of the unholy 5 you lose champs? if you got one, are you happy crushing youre enemys until they want to deinstall the game since they cant enter the game anymore... ? well if you ar ehappy then its cool on the other sides the best games i had have been games where everybody got shit champs and the game was rly balanced. everybody had some fun even the enemys, even when they lsot, which means 2 or 3 games out of like 20 plus games
Big Tits (EUNE)
: ARURF needs a fix
also implement hard punishments for every player who gets in an arurf game, and starts inting trolling and goes then afk with the words, its troll mode, its fun mode if everybody does this nobody exept them has fun on their team, so if somebody just goes to youre lane, runs in 5 times and then says bb, or somebody just dies somehow 15 times in 12 minutes or somebody doesnt surrender a game that only still goes on because the enemy team which is 50 kills ahead after 20 minutes decides they want more fun, should be able to get a report for this, srsly, i dont want to play a game they fed so hard that you diee in the spawn after respawning which happened to me many many many times speak yi, kayn, and more yi its not fun at all, make the surr timer liek arams or something 8 minutes for early and 13 for real surr. <.< so much with those trolls who say its fun i troll so its hell for you ... i mean at least bann them for this mode if they cant behave... just this mode... so they cant do this 10 games and still play it afterwards with nothing happening to them
Big Tits (EUNE)
: ARURF needs a fix
my fixes to this atrocity of what urf has become A FREAKING 10 BANN PHASE AT THE VERY LEAST i lose almost every game in which the enemys get things like soraka, yi, kayn and karth teemo games are rly shit to deal with... like its hell literal hell also why arent teemo karth not instant banned? yi also, yi with essence reaver ( WHICH IS ALSO STILL IN THIS MODE) is so broken, if you are not shit at the game you cannot die, he alpha, auto alpha auto, everybody is dead so get essence reaver out the game, bann karth teemo and let us bann 10 champs 5 per team and then you can go with the all random crap. ( which also is rly bad but at least then you wont get fked as hard) srsly though as kayn you are also literaly immortal, ekko too, yi too, this is so insane, i lose every single game to a 30 plus bullshit champ that clearly i should be allowed to bann i mean i found karth annoying after he reaches lvl 11 since you know, half life gone every 20 seconds... if you arent a tank, if you are its just 1/3 to 1/4.... also sometimes when the random pick lottery decides you need to lose, the enemys get 3 hard cc champs that can loc you forever in cc, while you get 5 adcs we also need 3 reroles or something
jacktjong (EUW)
: How I think Aatrox is easily Fixed
heres my fix passiv is like zed/naut/j4 and has a per target cd of 12-8 sec cd FIX q must have either bigger crit zones and maybe even % bonus dmg on the crit spot so he can fight tanks maybe make the animation smoother w must go through minions,... at the very least... and maybe a higher slow on hit his e must have a severely lower cd and 3 stacks, or the cd of it gets lowered when he uses q, or when he presses ult he can have it on 2-3 sec cd also let it use while reviving, increase the bonus ad from 1,5 sec to 2 sec his ult bloodwell should heal him if he doesnt die during the ult.... also buff his passiv AS to a better grade, its waaaay too low to make good use of it as it is this sounds redicicoulus but remember he is slow asf, and needs the power to do something his ult lets you sometimes stranded with like 100 health to die after to get over a wall with the tiny dash during revive is a must have, honestly... his passiv punishes you for farming, and not trying to push.. which is a paradox to this game btw his bind is too easy to avoid by walking sideways already, but that this thing gets blocked by creeps is just a joke to compair him to other champs/ juggernauts, darius has from his q a easier to hit q bonus dmg, heal % missing health, applys his bleed and max bleeds later, scales great, is fast for a juggernaut he has a realy good ult, better loadout, can get strong later on fast, has a 200 bonus ad passiv bleeding, compair him to aatrox, the passiv alone illaoi has a fast q, slow, a heal that stacks per target hit with missing health, her ults gives her resets on the dash which lets her do more tentacle dmg/ heal again aatrox is waaaay underperforming also for other heal bruiser types, rhaast, ( darkin kayn) he has 40% heal, which is 15% more, ( actually its 18 or so) then aatrox, is faster, does % dmg and fix dmg, has burst heal, can walk through walls for a fix heal, has an instant hard cc, that does more dmg then aatroxes second q crit when the first hit also becomes untargatable while ulting its literaly everything aatrox does but better in every single way, for the one tradeoff that you have to deal with the weaker base kayn before who also can do more btw just saying aatrox buffs sound rly insane but if you just forget the ammount of buffs to other champs that do the same, then its nothing
: Riot Has Lost It
also i totaly agree, the runes reforged took away so much depth, i mean there is a small but effective fix for this let us choose bonus stats i mean either you get high dmg or high as or both but small also give us a good armor mr variathion, a new path that grants armor or something we rly need more choices in runes, and also all keystones are basicly 3 keystones in total... usefull ones maybe 4... and thats sad i mean can we have something cool? something rly interesting??? also stack items have been fun bring them back also bring back the chance to build offroad AP YI FOR THE WIN
: Riot Has Lost It
PREACH IT BROTHER / SISTER
: Meanwhile at Riot HQ...
soooo the champs passivs dont work, the missions dont work the games dont work, match history doesnt work, the ping is high, several weard small scale bugs that can end you in loading screen, but ehy the shop works, ( it does right? i cant tell since most of this game right now is on fire)
iSneez (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Metharius,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8gbP0eWw,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-06-29T19:05:29.369+0000) > > dude, even in urf due to animation lock he is still the slowest champ. > i bet rumble in the 1st version of urf could beat him (rumble silence was applied making him the worst urf character) > > > edit: also=&gt; implying you can PICK him in ARurf :^) you know sion q is same but way way more slower in casting ? nobody complain and he is constant played in lcs, i am sure if you give it time instead of all crying here he will end up being strong, and after some pro players discover him being strong then a wave of people wil start cry NERF AATROX actually his cast time is pretty fast, and its pretty hard to miss, sure if you always try to hit with the edge then they can juke but if you don't then its not so easy to step aside or run since its way way more faster then sion q
> [{quoted}](name=iSneez,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8gbP0eWw,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-06-29T19:18:04.558+0000) > > you know sion q is same but way way more slower in casting ? nobody complain and he is constant played in lcs, i am sure if you give it time instead of all crying here he will end up being strong, and after some pro players discover him being strong then a wave of people wil start cry NERF AATROX > > actually his cast time is pretty fast, and its pretty hard to miss, sure if you always try to hit with the edge then they can juke but if you don&#x27;t then its not so easy to step aside or run since its way way more faster then sion q ääääh what, sion has a very fast shield, and glare move, an almost instant ult that lets him be mobile asf his q can be a slow or a massiv aoe cc damage abilit depending how long you charge and if you let go the charge it is a fast ability hard to predict at times also his engage is extremely good, his survivability and revive are better and way more dangerous since he does massiv dmg and lets you go ham on everyboy you see you cant compair sion to aatrox even if you do aatrox loses at everything to him
: > [{quoted}](name=iSneez,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8gbP0eWw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-29T13:11:20.810+0000) > > play him in aurf if you get it, he has infinit q, until you finish the 3rd hit your q is out of cd so you can nonstop q which is useless, coz everyone has 100 free movespeed boost, so they can dodge it easily.
> [{quoted}](name=Super Hooker,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8gbP0eWw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-29T16:22:11.763+0000) > > which is useless, coz everyone has 100 free movespeed boost, so they can dodge it easily. i played tons of urf now and i must say,... aatrox is worhtless even there, everybody i meet there says he is crap, youre q is after 5-10 minutees unhittable, everything that is autohitbased will shred you to death also his healing is very low, but what comes to light is how useless his ult truly is, you use it and die, its a worse passiv version of what his pre pre rework passiv was, when he lost all as and stuff after revive i have no idea how they implemented his OLD weakest parts into his new kit. honestly its beyond me. they somehow forgot why his old old revive sucked and said thats cool as an ult man i mean the revive passive from the first small rework was way better, giving you the as ad boost still after reviving he has true comeback potential and every game i see somebody play him, everybody in the game says how useless aatrox is the one who plays it, and all other 9 players jjsay how this is every game and blabla <.< this rework is a fail
: > [{quoted}](name=Mortanius,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=gVZhpofA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-28T02:29:55.541+0000) > > No, because every rework I know kept his identity, Irelia still enjoys dashing around, Swain is still the semi tank that he is with good sustain, Ryze, while always being a problem, kept spamming his skills, xin is a dashing/aa monster, war wick catches you from afar, poppy still dives. But they changed Aatrox entirely... {{champion:6}} /thread
well urgots shield stayed, he still has his q projectile which locks on, and well sure thats it, however you still find him to be urgot also his kit isnt shit but actually good, and dynamic aatrox is a clunky piece of trash right now, and if you say he was a ball of stats before gets this every single stat he has is so low that he soly relies on item stats to do anything his health armor mr is too low, his dmg is too low his speed is too low his AS is too low his animations are too long so he needs other things to make it work in total the new aatrox is worse of a statball then the old one which was why they reworked him, in short this is a ryze situation where the rework didnt fix the problem but made the kit with the same base problem have other new problems tat have to be fixed from heavily also urgot got a animation fix later aswell, by having the q take only a quarter of time to explode, i expect the same on aatrox actually, make the q 4 times faster or so if you think he is good right now he sits at 40% winrate right now droping since his release ( sure thats because ppl TEST him) but i was able to autoattack aatroxes to death with swain, i just bought bramblevest and had dorans, i walked around him just autoing him dodging q no abilitys no nothing i just beat him out of lane this way and i got him several times aswell, so yeah
: > [{quoted}](name=FranklinDelanoR,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=LvFlarWl,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-06-28T08:53:54.382+0000) > > i have to say New Aartox rework is the worst in lol History. > > Appearance: > 1 this is not a better VGU rework, Aartox has more pixel in than Nunu, or Udyr. Just see them together in one game. > Man do you see how splendid Warwick, Poppy, Yoric now? Aartox nothing like them. > New Aartox just way bigger than most champs and thats it. But maybe the 13 years old kids like it. > > But my biggest problem is that Riot made a promo video for Aatrox in game and His q jump is just not like that what we saw in the video. Nice clickbait i have to say. > His 3. jump is sow low, I mean i could jump that high too hehe.....!!! I dont feel the power what we knew from old Aartox when you Q you jump over the map and you just dash down with all his power. > > Mechanics: > First i have to clear that i did not saw a good Aartox play so far. Maybe its super powerfull in the right hands. But i want to talk about how dull his mechanics now. > Q, super easy to kite, + if you dont have Q you simply cant do nothing. > His only potential if you use W right but thats also easy to kite, I think he is just a high risk high reward champion, > I liked the old one when you had to decide you go for sustain or the higher dmg with his old W. But now no thinking just spam abilities and try to hit right hehe... > New E. It was a joke right? His E just made because he cant dash with his Q now, So they had to put in 1 dash ability. And here is his E only can use when you dash over walls, > I really feel Riot fcking did not know what to put on his E ability so finally they decided on this. > His R is similar to the old one so thats the only thing which is ok. :) > > All in all: > He is just a base stat hero with his ridiculous passive dmg and life steal, He is exactly like an Udyr just without movement speed. Good job Riot. Next time if you have no idea how to rework a champion just skip it for later time maybe. His ultimate is not OK. It is terrible in comparison to the old one. You don't get Atk speed, you don't get Range, you don't have the ult damage anymore. All you have is a garbage revive and an AD steroid that does not matter because you will do 0 damage with his kit regardless.
pretty much yes, my fix to this was give him on ult more range attackspeed,... i mean AT LEAST and let him regenerate all the stored up health after the ult is done also the passiv has to be either like j4 naut or zed passiv and get a per target cd or even better gets a 12 sec cd fix, and each autoattack reduces the cd for 3 seconds, rageblade bonus proc also takes 3 sec off with that he can go the old aatrox very well, HOWEVER that makes the q useless... also the dash bonus ad has to have a duration of 3 seconds or so, otherwise its useless
: Let's be honest friend, old Aatrox was overpowered (Infinite sustain, attack speed steroid, attack range boost, free GA and a ridiculous damage boost on his W) and we all know Riot doesn't like strong champions so they had to make him shit so nobody plays him. I mean, would you rather pick old Aatrox or the reworked Aatrox?
or you know you bought against odl aatrox bramblevest and he loses pvp... or ignite him,, had morellos, mortal reminder... a form of cc / a slow will do just fine however what he did very well was counter dmg reduction effects such as exhaust since je still heals thorugh it since his heal is based on a fixed stat... or it was
: Your never gonna please everyone with a rework, no matter how much people ask for it or how much it’s needed people will complain... aatrox is no different to any other rework
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=oPGEsONu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-06-27T11:40:17.350+0000) > > Your never gonna please everyone with a rework, no matter how much people ask for it or how much it’s needed people will complain... aatrox is no different to any other rework exept you know was a autoattack oriented champion with drain mechanics and became a catser type tank that isnt mobile and has less poke then before??? or maybe the hard change in personality.. or maybe its something else... i dont know i cant pin it, i mean fk every aatrox main, why should they expect to play a autoattack based champ as one after he gets updated right.. lets make draven a melee tank and sejuani a range adc also make talon a ap mage, and if we are at it make rakan a juggernaut i mean i cant see what would piss of ppl can you?
iSneez (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Hero Simon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=wV6V0mvo,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-27T12:06:49.352+0000) > > screw this champion, he will never be my main ever again. it happened to some sion players, warwick players, swain players.
> [{quoted}](name=iSneez,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=wV6V0mvo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-27T12:11:39.561+0000) > > it happened to some sion players, warwick players, swain players. so as i see you are clearly one of naturs more ... mentaly free ppl... okay let me run it down for you warwick was an on hit tank drain champ with a lockdown ult and a hunt mechanic.... is STILL all of those but updated sion has kept his core mechanics, hp stacking shield glare=roar, lifesteal is on passiv and got basicly alot more choices but is similiar, he would still work as most played him before a magelike tank and swain is still a controllmage with mana getback lifereg passiv his ult stayed but is better, and he still got some good drain in his kit so where did these champs exactly become no longer what they were? irelia gankplank galio are all technicly the same champ as before, so get out of here and spray youre 10iq thoughts somewhere else
: As a former Aatrox main. I just gotta say.
played him today, hated how he became just from seeing alone, but after playing this i was disgusted... my enemy aatroxes hated him too. great rework, i have a legit hate for this
Amoustafa (EUW)
: Aatrox mains right now
the new atrox is crap, his entire kit is worse then the old ones or rivens... its basicly a downgraded riven that is named aatrox and got atroxes old e but in even worse then before.... and no it is not good because it drags you back, it can be stoped by minions., it isnt aoe, its nit a save poke tool, you cant clear with it ( his q is just the worst ) and to hit it you need to go into the open, and they can walk out of it n problems this ability should do for what you need to do to make it worth 4 times the damage or something or 2 times and go through minions to hit a champion his passiv is somehow so bad, i cant believe this made it on the live server 24 seconds for a stronger autohit... btw jarvan zed nautilus and others can do this on each target every 10 seconds.... and they do more, naut snares, zed does alot missing health magic, jarvan does more then aatrox and has better mobility to boot
Glaiver (EUNE)
: I'm sure that's how everyone feels when their champion gets a complete rework. Like Sion level, then again almost nobody played the old Sion. Irelia was huge as well, completely different.
> [{quoted}](name=Glaiver,realm=EUNE,application-id=jeJYsmwG,discussion-id=aE5KhJXA,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-06-27T11:58:33.162+0000) > > I&#x27;m sure that&#x27;s how everyone feels when their champion gets a complete rework. Like Sion level, then again almost nobody played the old Sion. Irelia was huge as well, completely different. exeptn every single time before this time when a champ got reworked you could still somewhat play the champ like before aatrox is not even remotly aatrox anymore, not a single piece of him remained, the heal is crap, the q is crap, the w is crap and somehow worse then the old e, which is an acomplishment rly, and his dash is so hardcore bad i hate it hard, his ult is so underwhelming its horrible, you cant compair the other reworks to this one ebcause the champs had they playstyle to some degree after the rework, so dont even try it
: Aatrox rework is bad
I got all the same issues and his kit is also rly bad. If this would be another Darkin I would be less pissed but would still say this kit is bad. The passive is a joke the ultimate is a joke a big one the dash is a joke and the riven q is just disappointing what a waste. And you could fix the passivbif it would be like he's or j4 on each unit instead of every unit triggers it and send it to over 20 fking seconds of CD a total joke. Also how ultimate is his old passiv but in bad.
: What made aatrox who he was also is what made aatrox toxic and in need of a rework... for a rework to be successful it also has to change aatrox at his core. The burst healing, the auto attacking, the ability to jump into groups of enemies all of it was extremely toxic and caused all of the issues that aatrox had and caused in the game. The reason you play aatrox is the reason he needed to be reworked. That’s why he became what he now is... cause frankly that’s as close as your ever gonna get to old aatrox while actually being healthy for the game. > also if somebody tells me i should just get with it, remember, when one of youre favorite champions gets essensialy deleted and replaced with another champ say youre jungler main is now an adc then man i hope you get with that silently aswell since that means you never will get back whats gone I mained old ad sion... trust me I know how it feels... hell after sion went throgh his rework I had a period of maining aatrox, until his issues forced me to stop (still in my champion pool though). Almost all of my champion pool either has been reworked since I started playing them or is on the chopping block... and with every rework there is a chance to loose them... that is the price I pay for playing these champions and it’s the price you chose to pay when you decided to main aatrox... even if they kept him as an auto attacker or made him an adc or burst assasin as you wanted, even if it was a Warwick level rework there was a chance you would loose your main. And my answer to you is the same as the one I give to everyone in your situation... you’ve got to move on. Understand why this rework went the way it did, say your good byes (the 2 weeks leading to sion’s rework I played him exclusively, I tried out any variation of his build that I hadn’t tried yet, even went ap sion), welcome the new aatrox not like you would old aatrox but like if he was a new champion... don’t compare him go in with a clear mind and give the new aatrox at least a chance. If your lucky you continue being an aatrox main, not unheard of I’m still a sion main (after a long period of searching for a new main), if not try a different champion who is similar to aatrox. And if aatrox was what is keeping you in league then move on to a new game, not with regret and anger but with good happy memories, but keep tabs on the game a new champion or future rework might fill the void. This comes as someone who has watched many beloved champions go through the blender... and someone who still has half his champion pool still on the rework list... so I guess when it comes to getting over what your going through you could call me somewhat an expert.
heres the thing though sion kept his essence, which was INFINITE HP STACKING, also shield, the lifesteal aspect was kept, it is not even remotly the same, so you cannot compair to that, also keeping the essence of the champion is what a rework should be, you basicly tell me, that they should not keep the essence of the champ even though they kept it with most if not all reworks until now, thats just a logic that doesnt support itself so the playerbase that played aatrox, would have more reason to stay behind him if he had kept his essence, which he doesnt. so for example you change a pure autoattack champ to pure ability, thats a 100% change in how you aproach the game with this champion youre examples just say i have no idea what ESSENCE means, for example the other reworks warwick, still onhit based, bruiser/diver lifereg, hunt mechanic lockdown ult Irelia still a tryforce user, still has the dash, has the heal, has kept the onhit dmg, Sion stacks hp, kept the shield with ap ratio, kept the lifesteal aspect, kept a similiar glare move with his roar galio,, still is an anti mage, still has gain from mr, his q is still somewhat in style of his old q, he still has an aoe taunt, and dmg reduction gangplank, kept most of his kit, got updated, got interesting mechanics that support the old kit, oranges stayed swain still controlls the map with his abilitys, can block off zones, kept an updated ultimate with the basic same premise WAS ALSO A DRAIN TANK ( i did play swain actually also a bit, and i did like that the controll stayed, and his ult...) evelynn kept her spikes, invisebility, has an aoe ult that you can hammer on enemys, its in general still evelynn, also kept her onhit burst move aatrox, didnt keep the onhit, didnt keep burst heal/ onhit heal nor the onhit dmg, didnt keep the as focus, or the general style of himself granted he kept his passiv, which is now his ultimate, minus the as that you got, it literaly is his old passiv but as his ultimate... meaning revive and ad so no i wont call you an expert i play this game since early season 1, and so you are no expert to me, you also clearly missed the point of the message i already lost xerath to a very very shady idea, and now he has a passiv that got removed from every other champion or is planned to be removed, because gaining mana back from the passiv is not a very exiting idea, since it gets useless in lategame anyway. and is jsut an excuse to have high mana costs, RIOTS WORDS yet he still is like this
Irarius (EUW)
: aatrox a failed rework, essence wise...
also what aatrox could have looked like with a new modell, i would have liked it if you just cut out the banner wings and leave the skelet like wings, make them bigger, when he ults just let him have blood wings grow into the skelett wings he had. as for his sword i do not understand why you dont just take the old sword cut one of the three blade sides off, ad leave it to be this whip like spiky sword. i mean him to look monstrous like this monster of war, that just gets more alive an thicker the more blood is shed, THAT would be cool this blood angel, i mean man just give the revive walk stuff to his old kit, leave the old ult, leave the autoattack stuff, give his first or second Q as his E so he has a nice range attack that seems savage and has some utility and maybe you could give him a new some interesting dash ability, or cut that and give him some sort of range auto, or a slow mechanic like malphites slow, or an as debuff or something OR give his old q add it into the ult, make the ult the dash with dmg knockup and as, and bam, amazing champion, having on that a delay as q has is totaly justified and offers counterplay i just made you a better aatrox, make this guy another darkin and done
Rioter Comments
: Aatrox rework and community reaction
i dont like the fact that jhe is now a caster typ bruiser, instead of his auto typ, i feel this is so far away from what made aatrox aatrox, i dont like it, also why is his voice so bad? he was this emotionless maschine of war, calm logical and more or less this force, just the voice and the lines, and Bam now he cracks jokes, is screaming like an oaf and is just uuuuuuh. i rly rly dont like it, they didnt capture his spirit at all, and no just because he is red his name is aatrox and he heals doesnt mean he is AATROX, its garbage.
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: Aatrox rework release date?
it was updated to full visual and gameplay update recently, so yeah this might take a bit longer when we expected
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Irarius (EUW)
: can xerath have some love pls?
just so we are clear his passiv gives a measly bit of mana that doesnt even make anything because if they would give him something more interesting to work around and make his manacosts a little bit more exeptable plus maybe tweaking him, he would be so much better, and i have skill on this champ i have him on masterie 7, so dont come with i am bad, thats just a sad excuse
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: Frostblade Irelia is now a standard winter skin, and I don't like it
exactly what i thought... i mean i think the new skinn looks almost identical to winter wonder karma, and is just... rly rly bad, i think they should remake this skinn again and rly look to make it more like the original one, skinntight suit, frosty ice blue spiky hair thats the way it was, and not this... idk what it is know.. it looks wrong, make her realy pale too, and giver her the icy glare she had on that one, she is not supposed to look all fuzzy and cozzy shes supposed to look ice cold i hope this gets recongized by riot... because rly i dont like this at all
Nakoruru (EUNE)
: Sounds like too much work, but what's the result is for? Gambling is at weak position at some countries. For card tricks you can design and create a deck of your own. I'd rather see Riot Games spending some money to build a telescope of new type and name new galaxies, stars and planets after League of Legends champions/pro-stars.
well for starters its not that hard to actually do it, cause first, its basicly using the symbols for the main parts of the card i mean jez you slap a leader such as swain with his sick art on it and done, its not like its impossible, an its not like 30 bucks per set is alot of money, im just saying that i would be interested in a high quality set of cards, and not a bunch of cheap ass copy paste cards, that break after a bit of use, i did own some very very good cards for playing small games ( not poker, but having a poker deck allows for using the deck for more then one game,) and they did make it with exessive use a long time, then i had cheap once and thei got played off fast. i mean i can also just go and buy me another deck, but i think with the amazing art we have here it would be fun to have others do it too
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