Hansiman (EUW)
: > You got kids my man? Yes, but I fail to see how that is relevant. --- > If your suggestion to them to cover their ears with their hands and go LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA! My suggestion to them would be to not stoop to their level, and stand above such behavior.
" Yes, but I fail to see how that is relevant" I'm not surprised.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > Retaliation and self defence to you is just as bad as the antagonising... Retaliation is not the same as self defence. Self defence is fine, which is muting the offending player. **That's** self defense. Retaliation is nothing but being toxic in return. It serveres no other purpose other than further fueling the problem.
You got kids my man? Have they ever been bullied or been around kids with negative views? If your suggestion to them to cover their ears with their hands and go LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA! Leave me alone.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > You're not listening are you. Do you even read this posts? I read it, and responded to you. You not agreeing with what I say doesn't mean that I'm not listening to you. I just don't agree with you. --- > You almost sound like your condoning them by comparing the system instead of the context. I'm unsure what you mean with this. I provided you with an explanation as to how context matters.
Your attitude is the reason why bullying in schools, work and online exists. Because you don't know how to counter it, your suggestion is just to ignore it. Retaliation and self defence to you is just as bad as the antagonising... Your attitude is DANGEROUS. Please leave me alone before you seriously upset me.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > If i just mute it and move on, report or not, these people are going to expect it's ok for them to say such horrible nasty offensive things How so? As you said, you were recently chat restricted indicating you were punished for your behavior. Being here, you do give insight into understanding that it **isn't** acceptable to behave like this. If other players are misbehaving, they'll also get punished which signals to them that their behavior is not acceptable. --- > But seeing as i can get reported just with the word 'trash' I fail to understand why you make that claim. You made a thread and posted your chat logs. They contain much more than just a single use of the word "trash". --- > and the bot doesn't take into account the conversation, just your own logs without context It does, but not in the manner you're expecting it to. The majority of players don't want flame in the game, and retaliation is counted as flame. In that sense, context doesn't matter, because if you're being toxic, you're being toxic. And your logs indicate you were being toxic. Context matters when it comes to how you're using the words. When you're calling someone else "trash", you're using it in a derogatory manner directed at another player. That's where context is important. The word "trash" itself isn't banned, because you can use that in perfectly fine manners as well. --- > i had to just let him continue talking the way he was, feeling empowered, entitled and able (even with the mute, it doesn't stop him talking) But with the mute, he would be wasting his time because he wasn't getting at you, because you weren't reading the text. You're putting yourself in the situation where you eventually burst and step over line, which will result in a warranted punishment.
You're not listening are you. Do you even read this posts? You almost sound like your condoning them by comparing the system instead of the context. How disgusting, and you're a senior mod. How disappointing.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > Mute players and report them once the game is over? If i can't see what they're saying, how am i meant to understand what i'm reporting? Because you muted them once they started flaming, so you know exactly what you're reporting. There's no reason to not mute them. If you know they're being toxic, and you know that it has a negative impact on you, why do you allow them to continue? --- > The chat is there for communication. Muting someone shouldn't be a thing If someone is being toxic, they're not really using the chat for communication. Just mute them, and communicate with the people that use the chat correctly. --- > You can't stick your head in the ground and think everything is roses and rainbows. How am I doing that by acknowledging that toxic players exist, but also informing you of the best way to deal with them?
I was perfectly fine continue playing. You seem to have a problem with reading so i'm going to have to repeat. What you seem to not understand is, you can't ignore a problem and expect it to go away. If i just mute it and move on, report or not, these people are going to expect it's ok for them to say such horrible nasty offensive things.. But seeing as i can get reported just with the word 'trash' and the bot doesn't take into account the conversation, just your own logs without context, i had to just let him continue talking the way he was, feeling empowered, entitled and able (even with the mute, it doesn't stop him talking) This system needs to do a much better job at giving out bans and mutes. These people should not expect to be able to talk the way they do without someone else telling them no, but with such a bias system, there's nothing we can do to fix their attitude. Please consider reading this post a few times before responding.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > If i don't get that little message saying something has been done... Odds are you won't, since the message is intentionally set to rarely pop up, under certain conditions. Most players you report that ultimately end up punished **will not** trigger this message for you. --- > i had to break my fingers and watch some of the most horrific attitude been thrown at me Or, you could just mute the players and report them once the game is over. Having to read their flame is your choice. You're given the tool to avoid it.
Mute players and report them once the game is over? If i can't see what they're saying, how am i meant to understand what i'm reporting? The chat is there for communication. Muting someone shouldn't be a thing, because the purpose behind muting should't exist either. You can't stick your head in the ground and think everything is roses and rainbows. These people are going to continue like this to others and it's going to seriously hit some nerves soon... as well as bait them into their own bans and mutes for responding.
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Henky (EUW)
: dude shut up riot doesnt give a fck about anything all they care about is spending your money for skins and releasing new skins for popular champs even if they allrdy have 8 skins there is a bot checking your words if you have a lot specific "words" in your chat log you will get punished Doesnt matter what it means its a %%%%ing bot checking your logs if 1 person reports you Doesnt matter if the dude was trash and you call him trash doesnt matter if he run it down mid and u call him garbage or whatever its the bot that makes the decision programmed by a employee at riot games hq that had to programm it because some stupid monkey at riot games hq made the decission to implement the bot. Its a %%%%ing censorship but you cant do anything against it just shut your mouth in game and disable the chat this game is dying because of toxicness they releasing more games because they loosing earnings year by year and 2017 was their best year There are specific keywords for the bot, if you dont write them you can flame as much as you want because the bot cant check it
There are specific keywords for the bot, if you dont write them you can flame as much as you want because the bot cant check it This actually came into my mind at work today. I would imagine if you wrote 'you're trash' as yoore traysh, if it would pick it up?
: Ye sure, being eve is hard to gank with. But how is my friend who is a eve otp having no problems ganking with eve early so much harder than you are having it? There's no difference, well maybe that he is plat and you are not. I guess that's the biggest diffreance, he knows what he's doing while you are blaming your teammates. From going "I can't gank" to "You guys are at fault for feeding". Isn't that a big loophole? They are basically playing 4vs5 and you are blaming them for losing? 2nd, asking them to be quiet by being offensive towards them? You think that will solve anything. If you wanted to avoid getting taken for a ban that game you should have wrote "Please calm down and be a bit quiet, please". Doe that sentence doesn't help, it at least avoids you a ban... I don't care for harassment YOU got, what matters here is that YOU HARASSED OTHERS. End of story, if you want them banned then yourself should be banned. You 110% deserved the ban. Like I said, I think the story would be different if you had a rioter in your game. Then the ban would be up at a 14 days ban.
You are absolutely correct. The reason IS because he is plat. A lot of early pre-6 ganking relies on your laners playing the lane, freezing the wave or in some cases, let the enemy push so your jungler has a better chance to gank. People in plat have a lot more awareness and agency, and they also respond a lot more appropriately. So you're exactly right. He knows what he's doing and i am blaming my teammates. Though in this instance. I was responding to mass pinging and them doing the typical spam of 'jungler come 4 times now' etc. It is very hard to gank a lane who's losing, flaming, spamming, and not playing due to being busy typing. You're right there aswell. it does become a 4v5, because as soon as the lanes lose, the opposing jungle opens up and without vision and movement, the jungler is going to be starved of their own farm. So you'e entirely correct. You just don't realise what you're correct about. 2nd. You need to realise Joetri10: so shut up and Joetri10: %%%% off are a good chunk apart, and frankly if i recall, i was telling them to leave me alone to my jungle because they were stood there trying to last shot it to tax me WHILST blaming me. As you can see, i said this twice, the 2nd time a bit further down. They were very hell bent on making sure i got nothing at all. So i think telling them to frick off is rather acceptable given the circumstance. It would be different if a rioter was in the game. The guys who reported me would probably have been removed after 5 minutes. As i said, i don't deserve the ban, and we all know that.
: "i cant even do much till 6" Lies. Any jungler can make a gank before 6. Just don't force a gank. The only champion which can't gank early is Malphite. He doesn't bring anything to the ganks. "all have lower vision scores than me" That's normal for a jungler... Jungler and supports are the roles that should have the highest vision score of everyone of you, but that doesn't mean you have put out the most wards, it only means you seen more enemies than your allies. "dudee youve DIEE 4 times BEforE 6" You seem to like this sentence. Some blaming others. It's 1 of the reasons. "%%%% off" "Shut up" Verbal Abuse. "%%%% trash and cant even accept it" Blaming others. ___ Second game should be otherstandable by yourself why the ban came through. Constant verbal abuse. You should be lucky to get only 10 games of restriction.
I can't do much pre 6 as Evelynn. That's a basic known fact and mutual point regarding the champ. That's why she's considered a mid game spike champ. Vision scores being below 10 by 10-15 minutes is just playing badly. Vision is important. I'd you do t utilise it, you're just doing poorly. You shouldn't excuse that. Asking a jungler, and jungler to help try and turn back a lane that's so heavy swung is really very hard and taxing, more so when they make little effort to help themselves. They died 4 times before 6. That isn't negative flame, they are just doing bad. Blaming me isn't going to justify themselves and think to improve. The amount of harassment i was getting got tiring and horrific, do I told them to shut up. Don't see a problem personally. Unless you condone letting people personally harass others into silence? Because when someone is blaming you whilst you're doing fine and they're at this point basically iirc 3-21 or something silly, I will tell then it's their fault because it's THEIR fault. 2nd game I just got nailed at worse, and it was straight after the first one. I don't deserve this ban, as like 90% of the others here. We're being victimised for being human and it's horrible horrible practice on riots part. Disgusting.
Griaule (EUNE)
: Permabanned for this?
Looks as if riot isn't a fan of the word 'trash' as my mute features the word. Imagine punishing free speech because we choose trash instead of something worse, like s**t. Maybe we should change to garbage or rubbish, literally the same words
cephiro (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=obfLRemi,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-13T01:58:19.588+0000) > > Calling someone bad at a game is not an insult. It's an opinion. Much like calling someone good at the game, is not (just) praise, it's an opinion. > If you're actually so fragile as to get upset because someone thinks you're bad at something, you shouldn't be taking part in the conversation > > rules are rules, and they need to be re-written. It's outrageous that i can be punished for such a basic opinion. yes you are right, calling someone bad is an opinion, but calling someone "trash" is an insult until you understand that pls just stay chat restricted, possibly banned hfgl in SR
Trash as in rubbish as in not good as in bad. I defend my use of the word trash because that's how to choose to speak in my everyday. Frankly, you're chatting trash here. The sarcastic comment at the end of that though proves you're here to fill some kind of superior complex so, ah well.
cephiro (EUW)
: you are trying to justify why you calling them trash is right, but that is an insult and therefore it is punishable i get you when you are frustrated about bad players or troll i had pta yuumi who was assigned top but went into midlane and merged with the midlaner, later in a different game that guy went jungle, smite and built support items and that guy is still playing i really get you, but still you also insulted them rules are rules and since this is riots game they get to decide how to enforce those
Calling someone bad at a game is not an insult. It's an opinion. Much like calling someone good at the game, is not (just) praise, it's an opinion. If you're actually so fragile as to get upset because someone thinks you're bad at something, you shouldn't be taking part in the conversation rules are rules, and they need to be re-written. It's outrageous that i can be punished for such a basic opinion.
: Yeah just don't respond to people or type about how bad they are playing, they play like that all the time Chat bans are useless anyway, in a game where you need to make constant calls and cant due to the 5 message restriction, you actually lose games because you can't talk Toxic bans should be account bans 1 day, 3 day 7 day, 14 day, 30 day and then perma Chat restrictions are a bad idea imo I'm sure people will argue for them as much as against
You're right. As a jungler, i've lost 2 out of my three games today because i couldn't communicate my plan of actions in regards to ganks. Ironically in both games 'report jungle' was copy-pasted in the last 5 minutes because i wasn't communicating and they thought i was trolling Ohhhhhhh what a perfect system. 6-7 years, level 5 honor rapidly and consistently. All pointless because ??? It's great. it really is.
cephiro (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=obfLRemi,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-13T01:21:43.106+0000) > > Its not ban worthy because them being trash is just a fact. Much like Eminem is a rapper, Burger King is a fast food joint, Oranges are colored orange. In this instance, the player in question was trash. > > Abusive ban worthy talking is death threats, racial or homophobic slurs, aggressive direct personal attack. Not stating the obvious that someone is bad at the game and was told that. Much like if someone who's never played played football before, and is playing like trash. You're not going to go up to people and go 'AYE, i don't like your tone, you're banned from having an opinion' riot seems to be of a different opinion. personally i think it is insulting to call someone else trash, so it is a personal attack. you could have said "you are bad at this game", but you decided it was cool to insult the other player as "trash" so now deal with it also this is not that much of a punishment anyway
I'll add the context of 'dragon is up' - we have no vision. their (my adc, and mid) ward score iirc is under about 4 or 5 (sup was ok, as is good) They lost both mid and bot lane, and i wanted the dragon to get back into the game. ' dragons up and they're %%%%ing over there' - is to the support who's just died with me trying to get dragon and the other three are sacking top lane. At this point the Senna mentions something about how the adc and the midlaner were duo low elo. The senna is trying to argue and the adc at this point is calling for us to get reported, that it's not their fault i didn't secure dragon. Theres some chat spamming and then they end up dying in top lane. I mention the trash comment. Senna mentions it's the start of the season so we're bound to get these games my comment comes of 'i hate these 10 games' So me calling them trash; when they're literally not warding, lost the lane, not playing with the team. literally spamming letters in the chat and dying whilst typing, was justified. Seeing as they were duo, this got reported. As thus, it didn't matter what they said, because this is the system. They end up going mid when baron is being taken and eventually just walk down the lane inting themselves so it's just me and Senna left I shouldn't have to deal with anything. I didn't actually say anything wrong. It looks angry, but none of this is BAD. Let me repeat. I've been reported by two (or three) guys, that eventually started running it down midlane because they're actually TRASH at the game. Again. i've been PUNISHED because of two people who after 20 minutes RAN IT DOWN MID AND INTED a RANKED GAME.
cephiro (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=obfLRemi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-01-12T23:47:26.346+0000) > > Everything in these logs are directly in game related facts, aside from calling them trash because of their horrible horrible tones and eventual running down mid inting. > None of this is chat ban worthy. well there you have it you admit there is ban worthy stuff, why do you even still need to ask
Its not ban worthy because them being trash is just a fact. Much like Eminem is a rapper, Burger King is a fast food joint, Oranges are colored orange. In this instance, the player in question was trash. Abusive ban worthy talking is death threats, racial or homophobic slurs, aggressive direct personal attack. Not stating the obvious that someone is bad at the game and was told that. Much like if someone who's never played played football before, and is playing like trash. You're not going to go up to people and go 'AYE, i don't like your tone, you're banned from having an opinion'
mistry (EUW)
: Looks like you deserved a chat restriction from these logs lol. are you being for real?
> [{quoted}](name=mistry,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=obfLRemi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-12T23:45:12.372+0000) > > Looks like you deserved a chat restriction from these logs lol. are you being for real? Everything in these logs are directly in game related facts, aside from calling them trash because of their horrible horrible tones and eventual running down mid inting. None of this is chat ban worthy.
Semaka (EUW)
: Yeah, retaliation is punishable.
Reminds me of the 'who punches first' argument in law. Someone on CCTV can get verbally abused to tears, but the moment that person decides to swing, it's them getting in the slammer. Love it.
: >Ironically, i'm the passive one but the logs don't show the other players. Yes they never do. The policy is that you are solely responsible for your actions in chat. There are no hidden points for defending yourself. > The end of the last game, i tried to explain the team comp lost, and they called me trash bronze and to kill myself. Well if you've reported them they're very likely getting much harsher punishments than you anyway. Death wishes usually warrant an instant 14 days ban without prior offenses.
I just cant understand how if something is reported. Does the system only read the reported chat log as shown above? You could arguably bait people into getting muted by being just as horrific and the other person may not care to report
Semaka (EUW)
: > But you can't see that because the system isn't good. Yeah, all you flamers say that.
Yeh because when you're trying to repeat something as simple as 'this team comp isn't working' and 'i can't gank pre 6 as evelynn' and 'you're actually trash after being called a failed child', it is something us 'flamers' would say
: >Joetr%%%% trash and cant even accept it >Joetri10: %%%%h upon trash upon trash Calling someone trash is a pretty harsh insult, even if it appears as frequent and common. I think that played a big role for the penality. >Joetri10: just accept the loss m8 >Joetri10: its no ones fault but the comps >Joetri10: the comp >Joetri10: the team comp >Joetri10: it loses to this >Joetri10: accept it >Joetri10: or stay silver idc The last game you were thouroughly negative. That's atleast a report case and probably favors a penality. I mean all in all is this just a display of the average calm, but totally tilted player. At times I'm also somewhat toxic and I've played the same time without penalities so I might know where you're coming from. The only thing I'd take away from this if I were you, is that you'd have to trim back your trashtalking and negativity a little. Not much more you can or have to do, with these chatlogs.
2 of them were calling us garbage players, to stay in iron and to get cancer. i had to tell them countless times it was just the comps. But you can't see that because the system isn't good. Actually almost all of this is in defence of some SERIOUS harsh tones. I got muted for defending myself.
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Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Hk3ATwFJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T15:15:42.494+0000) > > Quantity does not add to quality. It's not about quantity, it's about branching. For example, how many of us actually care about the League Universe (lore)? I'm proud to say I'm one of them. I don't care that much about "League of Legends" as a game, but I **really** care (and like) about the story behind it. By your reasoning, because not many people care about reading stories, they should have never expanded on the lore. It's people like you that keep great stuff from happening. I want them to keep writing good stories, even if no one else reads them. Like me, there are many players that care about other, different, stuff. *** > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Hk3ATwFJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T15:15:42.494+0000) > > TFT is great and it's nice they are making is season based They said TFT would be season based from day 1. Nothing new here. *** > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Hk3ATwFJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T15:15:42.494+0000) > > The animated series is nice, but way off the mark of what people wanted. This is what I meant by "It's people like you that keep great stuff from happening.". What you're doing here is "gatekeeping". You're assuming no one else cares about that, based on what you want. Just like with the League Universe, I'm **very** excited for these animated series. After all, this is story given "life" through animation. Also, to put a final nail on the coffin, players have been asking for a League Movie for a **loooong time**. Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. ######Sure, this isn't a movie, but that's off the point. The point is some players, like me, actually want to see League on the screen.
> > This is what I meant by "It's people like you that keep great stuff from happening.". What you're doing here is "gatekeeping". You're assuming no one else cares about that, based on what you want. > > Just like with the League Universe, I'm **very** excited for these animated series. After all, this is story given "life" through animation. > > Also, to put a final nail on the coffin, players have been asking for a League Movie for a **loooong time**. Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. > ######Sure, this isn't a movie, but that's off the point. The point is some players, like me, actually want to see League on the screen. Oh i actually don't want more cinematic. But when the news droped that we're losing log in screens etc, people argued that part of the beauty of League was it's art and direction with champion development. People wanted short cins for champions just to flesh out characters (Like what we have gotten for Senna) I understand it's really damn hard to look at someone saying 'we want' and not read it as 'i want'. It's a REALLY tough habit to break. However i have paid attention.
: > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Hk3ATwFJ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-16T15:46:09.708+0000) > > All you have to do is look at streams and general opinion my guy 95% of all the comments I have seen so far is overwhelmingly positive and it's easily understandable why everything looks amazing
> [{quoted}](name=FPZ Kryddan,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Hk3ATwFJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-16T16:00:07.791+0000) > > 95% of all the comments I have seen so far is overwhelmingly positive and it's easily understandable why everything looks amazing Meanwhile in Tyler 1's chat when he watched it. MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO? MMO?
Vingthór (EUW)
: > In general, all of this is opposite of what people wanted, and that's the problem Heed the mighty Joetri10, chosen voice of all league players, omniscient about the will of we the people, and most definitely not another random person on the internet claiming his personal opinion somehow represents the majority.
> [{quoted}](name=Vingthór,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Hk3ATwFJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-16T15:33:03.432+0000) > > Heed the mighty Joetri10, chosen voice of all league players, omniscient about the will of we the people, and most definitely not another random person on the internet claiming his personal opinion somehow represents the majority. All you have to do is look at streams and general opinion my guy
Febos (EUW)
: What Is Happening?
Quantity does not add to quality. Everybody talking that we should be grateful and thankful they're giving so much. Problem is, nobody cares. TFT is great and it's nice they are making is season based; but that's not something to celebrate, because if they didn't do it, the game would die. The animated series is nice, but way off the mark of what people wanted. In general, all of this is opposite of what people wanted, and that's the problem... But that's ALWAYS been riots problem. THEY DONT LISTEN.. They are infamous of going against the word of others, due to an ego trip i suppose..
Forte (EUNE)
: Of course there is always someone that complains. Just say thank you ffs.
This is how they get their false information. Nodding like dogs at random words gives the impression we are interested. I can say Thanks for a great game, but they have seriously missed the mark. It will eventually hit them though.
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: ***
Looking at the Dev corner. Not only does this mode appear to be staying, but it's got it's own ranked coming i believe. However true it is still a cash grab during this wave of Chess-like games. But then, So was league with the DOTA hype so..
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Lord Bucea (EUNE)
: How did this happen
M8 ive had games where i went from having a full game of plats and golds in both teams to a full game of bronzes in both teams. One time we had a diamond against two iron rankers and vice-verse. There is no MMR, it's just a lie from riot to think you can progress but realistically they just try to fix your win rate. I've been at a perma 50/50 win rate forever with over 3000 games.
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blissbomb (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=blissbomb,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=OYkv9kIh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-07T23:45:33.951+0000) > > Seems messy. It's a little like Pyke. No defined build or playstyle really. It's quite literally the same exact kit but instead has skill shots and more cc. Literally the same kit m8 lol. Also, absolutely none of this is even remotely like pyke in any way at all. What a weird comment.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Joetri10,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=thbFEJUd,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-18T15:48:31.182+0000) > > I'm pretty confident it's rigged to the factors that are a common theme. (Premades, history of quitting/getting reported, etc etc) Being 'pretty confident' isn't enough when talking about something being rigged, either you provide sources or you don't make any claims as if they are valid points.
> [{quoted}](name=NU Male official,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=thbFEJUd,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-18T16:40:52.811+0000) > > Being 'pretty confident' isn't enough when talking about something being rigged, either you provide sources or you don't make any claims as if they are valid points. My source and proof is there is in now way that someone can play a game for over 3/4 years, have over 3000 recorded games, and somehow after all this, have a fixed 50/50 for over 6 months. It doesn't happen.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: 2.4k likes, 300 dislikes. Thats around 85%+ people liking it. "90% of community didnt want it". How about you dont pull numbers out of your ass and look at actual numbers? It looks quite good for 975 skin.
> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=pwhTdhHc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-08T23:18:06.138+0000) > > 2.4k likes, 300 dislikes. Thats around 85%+ people liking it. "90% of community didnt want it". How about you dont pull numbers out of your ass and look at actual numbers? It looks quite good for 975 skin. The evelynn reddit thread has a huge, and i mean HUGE dislike ratio. People who play the champion hate it. They do not play it.
Alunary (EUW)
: Lobby Not Availabe: Not Connected to Internet?
Yup, i have this problem. I've been too lazy to figure out why. It started for me about a week ago.
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: The system won't predict your performance or your team's before the game starts, there are way too many variables including the decisions of all players to be able to do something like this, so the system isn't calculating how to exactly keep you at 50% wr. 50%wr is just what you get when you're as good as your opponents. When equal in skill and one player must win, there's always a 50% chance. The more games you play the more this will even out, and unless you are at a higher skill level than what you are matched against, your winrate will always be around 50%.
> [{quoted}](name=NU Male official,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=thbFEJUd,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-15T12:42:34.146+0000) > > The system won't predict your performance or your team's before the game starts, there are way too many variables including the decisions of all players to be able to do something like this, so the system isn't calculating how to exactly keep you at 50% wr. 50%wr is just what you get when you're as good as your opponents. When equal in skill and one player must win, there's always a 50% chance. The more games you play the more this will even out, and unless you are at a higher skill level than what you are matched against, your winrate will always be around 50%. I'm pretty confident it's rigged to the factors that are a common theme. (Premades, history of quitting/getting reported, etc etc)
GLurch (EUW)
: Actually, you having a 50/50 win/loss ratio is exactly what's telling us that the system works. The system tries matching you with and against players of equal skill, meaning generally, there should always be a 50% chance of winning and a 50% chance of losing. This won't mean it's impossible for you to climb: You'll simply have to set the standards of the enemies and teammates you get matched with a little bit higher by improving yourself. If you get better, you will in turn win more games. Since the goal of the matchmaking system is to keep games even for everyone, it will then match you with better enemies and teammates that should correspond to your skill.
But ive been playing this game for 4 years on and off and my skill set with both Evelynns are much much higher than my other champions, yet the W/L ratio is pretty much identical anyway. I don't feel i'm getting better, i'm just not throwing games as hard as those on either team. I'm almost winning or losing entirely at random just for the sake of the system putting me at 50/50.
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WoOxèr (EUW)
: I dont understand what to complain about that rework made her better than before, Ult gives huge burst dmg and also blinks out (escape ability), heals passively in stealth and got charm extra CC which is easily catchable by her fast Q animation.
Because you never played the old evelynn. Her ult's escape is actually much worse in most situations than what her W provided. Her passive heal is ok, but her old passive healed mana, and with a healing item, Evelynn just healed through life steal. Thus the Mana essentially became health. Her q's animation is actually slower than her old Q, and though you may call it nice cc, her old alt actually provided a slow, and a shield, and was aoe. Used correctly it was a much easier to execute CC than the charm that is easily counter-able if you just play smarter. What she has may look more flashy, but what she was able to do before was actually BETTER.
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Solash (EUW)
: PBE isn't designed for balancing. There aren't that many players on it, and the skill levels are so varied that's it's almost impossible to get proper data on champion power. PBE is just there to make sure stuff doesn't break when it's released
Best leave it to that 1% who gets past the ban hype train then. Good idea.
Solash (EUW)
: Out of the question If a new champion does end up being disgustingly overpowered, players need a way to be able to prevent them being played
> [{quoted}](name=Solash,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=U2cqxrPH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-12T09:00:53.740+0000) > > Out of the question > > If a new champion does end up being disgustingly overpowered, players need a way to be able to prevent them being played the PTR stands for a reason. If a champion goes through it overpowered, it shouldn't be released.
: When did I say you cannot?
> [{quoted}](name=Taka No Yaíba,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=U2cqxrPH,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-12T08:15:19.655+0000) > > When did I say you cannot? You're assuming i mean ranked. I mean overall. That includes draft. I play draft, they ban in draft. Thanks for your understanding.
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