Ląst (EUW)
: 14 days ban? Da%%%%
This is what it looks like when a diamond player earns 3 chests for free ahahahah. Cry me a river negative win rate g3 stuck kiddo :D BabyRage
Ląst (EUW)
: 14 days ban? Da%%%%
By the way if anyone is wondering how this ended (probably not). After 4 days I opened the ticket, Riot reviewed my case, admitted their sytem failed ("hihih if you're banned you 100% deserve it, the system never fails" cit. down syndrome kid), unbanned me and to compensate me for the mistake gave me 3 keys and 3 chests. So yes, the system does fail, and when it happens they unban people. Hope this info will be useful to someone else who will be in my same situation.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ląst,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=0003000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T08:09:37.138+0000) > > So why was he unbanned BY RIOT U totally missed my point, didn't you? Anyway: EVERY automated system is bound to generate some "false positive", in the like of 1 every thousands and thousands and thousands. Riot ban system for flaming, for example, is as perfect as an automated system can get: u can browse the internet and find 1/2 cases of legit false positive (corrected manualy shortly), but the % is so small to not even be relevant. Guess what: the same goes for the automated "inting buster" system, another "as error proof as possible" one. In short: a guy banned for flaming...is guilty. A guy banned for inting...is guilty. He can claim all he wants he is "the one", the unlucky 1 player out there that actually was truly innocent (like uh...pretty much EVERYONE always claim?), but Riot ban enough is a proof is lying or, if u like it better, a 99,9999999999999% sure proof of it. And, in THIS case, we have the ban and a INCREDIBLE large amount of deaths, a number so high I don't know if I EVER saw it in THOUSANDS of "level 30" (non counting aram: but even there is REALLY rare) games played, if not when meeting...inters; the chance of him being innocent and me winning the lottery are pretty much the same, LOL. But ehy, I am discussing with someone convinced that to ban a 10/0 guy all u do is to gave him 4 reports or so in a game, I am probably wasting my time trying to put some sense into you, aren't I? EDIT: oh wtf I was talking with the inter himself LOL now I fully get it: u are not super clueless, just biased as hell, and in desperate search of excuses!^^ oh and your "skill level" further seal the deal: I can maybe believe that a bronze/low silver player can die that much in a very bad game due to hard tilting etc not doing it on purpose, not for sure a diamond one LOL
> [{quoted}](name=Quello dei Gatti,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=00030000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T08:27:26.467+0000) > > U totally missed my point, didn't you? > Anyway: EVERY automated system is bound to generate some "false positive", in the like of 1 every thousands and thousands and thousands. > Riot ban system for flaming, for example, is as perfect as an automated system can get: u can browse the internet and find 1/2 cases of legit false positive (corrected manualy shortly), but the % is so small to not even be relevant. > Guess what: the same goes for the automated "inting buster" system, another "as error proof as possible" one. > > In short: a guy banned for flaming...is guilty. > A guy banned for inting...is guilty. > He can claim all he wants he is "the one", the unlucky 1 player out there that actually was truly innocent (like uh...pretty much EVERYONE always claim?), but Riot ban enough is a proof is lying or, if u like it better, a 99,9999999999999% sure proof of it. > And, in THIS case, we have the ban and a INCREDIBLE large amount of deaths, a number so high I don't know if I EVER saw it in THOUSANDS of "level 30" (non counting aram: but even there is REALLY rare) games played, if not when meeting...inters; the chance of him being innocent and me winning the lottery are pretty much the same, LOL. > > But ehy, I am discussing with someone convinced that to ban a 10/0 guy all u do is to gave him 4 reports or so in a game, I am probably wasting my time trying to put some sense into you, aren't I? > > EDIT: oh wtf I was talking with the inter himself LOL > now I fully get it: u are not super clueless, just biased as hell, and in desperate search of excuses!^^ > oh and your "skill level" further seal the deal: I can maybe believe that a bronze/low silver player can die that much in a very bad game due to hard tilting etc not doing it on purpose, not for sure a diamond one LOL You said it's 100% unfailable, now that i proved you wrong you say it's not. This says a lot about your knowledge. By the way being diamond doesn't mean you can't have bad games when you try a new champ. But as I said, I know you will never admit what you said is dumb, you're just that kind of guy who wants to argue everything. If I made a post saying Riot doesn't ban enough people for inting, you would have said they should ban less and their system bans too easily. I'm sure of this, I recognize kids like you at first sight xD Also I found several 15+ deaths games in your match history even in games 25 minutes long. So you inted? Why you're not banned yet? 15 deaths in 25 mintues is 100% inting imo.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ląst,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=00030000000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-19T07:35:15.810+0000) > > I'm 100% sure the Riot system doesn't look at all at any stat, you might be 10/0 and still get banned if 4+ more people report you. How is this an unfailable system? **No system is unfailable or infallible in the long run, and that is a well known fact... ** on the other hand, what you claimed is something that has never happened before, so you should lower that "100%" chance of certainty :p I'll give you an example, yesterday a bunch of people that couldn't play the game without going 1vs 4 all the time and nag/flame and shout about the team, after getting tired of getting grey screens in their quests for kills, they started shouting : "Report sejuani, playing for KDA" what was I doing at the time .?. I had placed my zzrot in base towers and was defending our last side tower, while they were going "lerrooooooyy jenkins" again for no reason ... my score .?. 2-0-10 ... and first in self-mitigated damage in the whole game (so, no I was right there in the fights and the system has a way of knowing that) https://s26.postimg.org/cg4eiz2mh/Screenshot_2.jpg stats here : http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1804193393/215127973?tab=overview Was my chat toxic .?. **Nope** ( I did complain a lot about their playstyle, but along the lines "all you have to do is play SAFE!" which is a non-toxic chat ) Did I respond to the KDA accusations, by flamming .?. **Nope** so, I got 3 reports from people who didn't know how to play the game .?. **Will they count .?. Nope. ** It sometimes happens that people get angry over my safe playstyle and that I do not follow them into 1 vs 4 fights, but that is how I roll ... nothing reportable there, so I've had no complains from Riot - be that the old tribunal or these automated systems - for 6 years ... **Avoiding punishments is easy ... all you have to do is play your best and do not try toxic stuff in the chat or not respond to the toxic stuff others write.** That being said, if in your case the ban was a mistake, did you send a ticket to the support .?. What was their reply .?.
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=000300000000000000010001,timestamp=2017-09-19T08:38:09.604+0000) > > **No system is unfailable or infallible in the long run, and that is a well known fact... ** > > on the other hand, what you claimed is something that has never happened before, so you should lower that "100%" chance of certainty :p > > I'll give you an example, yesterday a bunch of people that couldn't play the game without going 1vs 4 all the time and nag/flame and shout about the team, after getting tired of getting grey screens in their quests for kills, they started shouting : "Report sejuani, playing for KDA" > > what was I doing at the time .?. I had placed my zzrot in base towers and was defending our last side tower, while they were going "lerrooooooyy jenkins" again for no reason ... > > my score .?. 2-0-10 ... and first in self-mitigated damage in the whole game (so, no I was right there in the fights and the system has a way of knowing that) > > https://s26.postimg.org/cg4eiz2mh/Screenshot_2.jpg > stats here : http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1804193393/215127973?tab=overview > > Was my chat toxic .?. **Nope** ( I did complain a lot about their playstyle, but along the lines "all you have to do is play SAFE!" which is a non-toxic chat ) > Did I respond to the KDA accusations, by flamming .?. **Nope** > so, I got 3 reports from people who didn't know how to play the game .?. **Will they count .?. Nope. ** > > It sometimes happens that people get angry over my safe playstyle and that I do not follow them into 1 vs 4 fights, but that is how I roll ... nothing reportable there, so I've had no complains from Riot - be that the old tribunal or these automated systems - for 6 years ... > > **Avoiding punishments is easy ... all you have to do is play your best and do not try toxic stuff in the chat or not respond to the toxic stuff others write.** > > That being said, if in your case the ban was a mistake, did you send a ticket to the support .?. What was their reply .?. Ban for flame works differently, if you get 4+ reports the system checks for key words if it finds them you get punished. The feed system works the same way except it just looks at the the number of reports and then doesn't check anything else. The 1/1/1 Gripex game is a proof, but you can find dozens of others if you look. By the way, yes, I contacted the support and I am waiting for an answer.
Eambo (EUW)
: Hey Ląst, If you haven't already, I'd advise [contacting support](https://support.leagueoflegends.com) to discuss this. Nobody on boards is able to help with bans - they can only advise why you may have received them. If you're certain you didn't intentionally feed, our support team can take a look and help you out in cases of false positives.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-09-19T08:21:38.301+0000) > > Hey Ląst, > > If you haven't already, I'd advise [contacting support](https://support.leagueoflegends.com) to discuss this. Nobody on boards is able to help with bans - they can only advise why you may have received them. If you're certain you didn't intentionally feed, our support team can take a look and help you out in cases of false positives. I did contact the support before opening this thread and waiting my case to be reviewed. I jsut wanted to know people's thought about this. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ląst,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=00030000000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-19T07:35:15.810+0000) > >100% sure the Riot system doesn't look at all at any stat, you might be 10/0 and still get banned if 4+ more people report you. what u just wrote is surely one of the stupidiest things I ever read, EVER (u should keep up with the game btw, since is at least MONTHS AND MONTHS that the system was changed in a way that the number of reports in a single game doesn't matter in the slighest anymore, as clearly stated loud and clear by Riot) Oh, btw: u thinking that a 1/1/1 player "can't possibly be a griefer, right?" just show how u really don't know NOTHING, sorry
> [{quoted}](name=Quello dei Gatti,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=000300000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T08:04:10.616+0000) > > what u just wrote is surely one of the stupidiest things I ever read, EVER (u should keep up with the game btw, since is at least MONTHS AND MONTHS that the system was changed in a way that the number of reports in a single game doesn't matter in the slighest anymore, as clearly stated loud and clear by Riot) > > > > Oh, btw: u thinking that a 1/1/1 player "can't possibly be a griefer, right?" just show how u really don't know NOTHING, sorry So why was he unbanned BY RIOT, saying the UNFAILABLE SYSTEM made a mistake? Maybe not so unfailable as you think? xD Bue yeah, I'm the one saying dumb things I guess when even Riot admits it fails. But whatever, I'm sure you will never admit all you said in this post is just %%%%%%ed over 9k.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ląst,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-19T07:51:29.201+0000) > > C O N S P I R A T I O N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > https://imgur.com/a/AOiEa I stand corrected. :) so, what are the games in the rest of the message and what were your scores in them .?.
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T07:56:06.954+0000) > > I stand corrected. :) > > so, what are the games in the rest of the message and what were your scores in them .?. There is only that one game, don't you see the "I understand" button at the end of the message? There is no other game below.
: > [{quoted}](name=K3tsu w0 t4beru,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-18T21:32:16.887+0000) > > Meanwhile actual inters and trolls still play unpunished. Working as intended meanwhile, he probably got banned for flamming and thinks (or pretends) that it was for intentionally feeding ...
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T07:40:51.007+0000) > > meanwhile, he probably got banned for flamming and thinks (or pretends) that it was for intentionally feeding ... C O N S P I R A T I O N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/a/AOiEa
: > [{quoted}](name=rèV,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IEjMchZq,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-09-18T22:22:11.005+0000) > > What do you mean by common mistake? You want to tell me, that there is absolutely no correlation between bad stats and bans for intentional feeding? Read what I have already wrote, is all explained there. Yes, a VERY bad score can be a valid sign of inting but u can int with EVERY kind of score, providing u have died at least one time during the game. >What you are saying is, that someone rages and dies 2 times, he should be held accountable for intentionally feeding If he did it on purpose OFC he must be punished for it, doesn't matter if he did it 2 times or 20. >I took a very specific look at this game and concluded this not only by his stats, but also by the stats of his teammates, the enemies, the damage dealt, the wards placed, the items bought and the minions farmed. I also took other games into consideration to see, if he is prone to inting. ...all things that mean nothing. U can snap at ANY point in the game, what your teamates did has 0 relevance, and so forth. Sure: if u go 0/20 in every game u are surely a troll. But u can have perfectly normal stats and still be a inter, like this case proved. And let me repeat: Riot "inters buster" DON'T ban innocent guys, is made to only punish when is 157% clear they deserve it, even if it means that 4398348943 actual inters can walk free. In short: if Riot ban someone for inting...that player is guilty, period.
> And let me repeat: Riot "inters buster" DON'T ban innocent guys, is made to only punish when is 157% clear they deserve it, even if it means that 4398348943 actual inters can walk free. > In short: if Riot ban someone for inting...that player is guilty, period. So the system is never wrong, you say, right? Are you sure about this statement or you wanna retreat? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMSGgwE_yiM I'm 100% sure the Riot system doesn't look at all at any stat, you might be 10/0 and still get banned if 4+ more people report you. How is this an unfailable system?
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