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Yraco (EUW)
: That's why I said give more of a penalty ****to the person going AFK****. They don't care about the team's LP but they might care a bit more about their own account being punished. If someone is already prone to going AFK, this system will just encourage them to do it even more, especially if someone is flaming them to try to make them leave. Riot would need to implement an AFK loss prevention system alongside stricter punishments for people that go AFK to make sure that it isn't abused.
Why not do both? I honestly couldn't care less about what happens to the one that went afk in my team as long as I don't have to keep losing LP on it.
: > [{quoted}](name=LD Machete,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=sYHkOrxN,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-30T17:23:13.509+0000) > > Yeah but if you do that you still get reported for being toxic and you're regular bans. Still your suggestion incentivises said behaviour.
for a month tops tho... they will eventually get longer and longer bans and then permabanned. It's an issue that goes away quit. And you can also mute chat. I play with enemy team chats off in ranked cause there's no reason for me to communicate with them.
: > [{quoted}](name=Player3Th0mas,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=sYHkOrxN,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-29T18:04:25.372+0000) > > Promotes toxicity: > > "Person is unintentionally feeding and the reason you're losing the game. Entire team: > > You go afk, you're the reason we lose, you suck, go afk, we don't deserve to lose LP because of you. %%%%ing go AFK" > > You don't want that lolz I find that certain possible {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Yraco (EUW)
: I'm saying how they could implement this and also get people to not AFK. As it stands in the current system, AFKs aren't punished much at all so making a system where they can stop allies from losing lp would be a bad thing.
People that don't AFK aren't stopped cause they care about the teams LP tho...
DutchPro (EUW)
: Wintraders also don't duo. When they matchup against eachother they decide who gets the win. When they get together in a team they basically play like a duo and win. That's how wintrading works. So getting a reward for afk, lmao makes wintrading godlike
You can only wintrade in higher ranks where you meet the same people more frequently
: this sounds like a pretty good idea, not that i play that much ranked, but the afk's and ragequits etc are one of the reason why i don't bother doing ranked in the first place.
RW Heaven (EUW)
: Logged in just to upvote this. If the anti-abuse fix will be implemented, fine. Great idea.
: yeah this doesnt sound as a bad idea
Yraco (EUW)
: I'm pretty sure that the skin team is not the team that would be involved with implementing a loss prevention system. I don't think that the support team would have anything to do with it either. Riot is not just one big entity; Riot is a collection of different teams that do completely different jobs.
BloQver (EUW)
: Hello, I got weird situation today here is my board link: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/YouRlAds-loss-prevented-because-of-feeder-and-super-small-amount-of-lp-after-18-mins-stomp
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=sYHkOrxN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-29T11:05:12.893+0000) > > I doubt riot will not do that, cause people will abuse of that to rank up. > > Example: i duo with you, i see we gona lose i go afk to you not lose lp, or i see is a free win i go afk to give you more lp, or even you intetinal made a team member ragequit to you not lose lp, > > That will open a windows for people abuse so i doubt riot will implement that. The solution to that matter should be simple. Premade failsafe, if one of their premades decides to go afk then the second premade won't gain any LP either in case of win.
: > [{quoted}](name=HH Machete,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=sYHkOrxN,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-29T11:51:57.405+0000) > > If you're worried that they'll queue same time and AFK incase they meet eachother, that would be so few people that it would be an easy ban. there's how many people in the rank that could do that? 0.01%? Shouldn't be an issue honestly The problem is that it will break the ranking ladder in D2 and above... And as well all know riot does not care about the ranks below diamond
I don't think it would break the above latter tbh, it would do too little difference there and when you're that good you will climb if you're better than the enemies cause there's less really really dumb throws. There are some but not like 50 in one game
Yraco (EUW)
: Give more of a penalty to the person going AFK then, and report the person being toxic. Right now, if you go AFK, you lose the same amount of LP as if you played the game for another 10 minutes and lost, and you only get a leaver buster of about 20 minutes after quitting multiple games. Toxicity is already being banned, as proven by the many, many posts on the boards where people have been toxic and then ask for their ban to be reversed.
Honestly I don't care about what happens to the AFK person after the game, it's his life. I just don't wanna be punished and demoted cause someone else left. Personally I don't even care if I get more LP, I just put it in cause otherwises people would ff instantly and the enemies would get too easy LP. You'd just camp someone to they tilt and AFK and then tell team to FF.
: > [{quoted}](name=HH Machete,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=sYHkOrxN,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-09-29T19:10:39.767+0000) > > They get reports for toxic behaviour... I don't really see how this small thing would make ranked experience worse tbh Because people probably will try anything to bully people into going AFK.
Yeah but if you do that you still get reported for being toxic and you're regular bans.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: The best solution to reduce AFK players is to punish them and not encourage players to go afk more {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} .
you still lose LP when you go AFK, get your regular reports and punishments. You don't get loss prevented cause you afk, only the team.
SepharU (EUNE)
: Short comment to this post : See the ELO as MMR in this post, its the same thing. The MMR system is most likley based on sort of an ELO System like in chess. For those who are more interested, click this link and watch the formula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system. In short : Players meet each other for a match and a formula is used to decide the outcome of the game based on their ratings and hence given the new ELO/MMR points after a win or loss. You CANT give someone ELO/MMR points and not "take" away ELO/MMR from the opponent, the formula dosent allow that, if you do so the formula will be invalid and the whole ranking system is at fault. You cant either "give extra" mmr rating just because someone afks, cause the formula is predecided before the game begins on a set of rules.. Again the whole system will get invalid. To give an example irl : Let us say a chess player is really really sick, and the chances for the player to win the game is slim to none, but wins the game he dosent get more ELO rating just becuase he is sick. Im not syaing its impossible, but it will shake the foundation of the MMR system, and you will get artificial MMR ratings just because some people "jump" up and down randomly due to afks etc. Im not saying it shouldnt be done anything about it. Yes it sucks, yes i also hate it, but you need an embedded formula that works in the core to make a ranking system work. If you gonna implement loss prevention and extra mmr you need to make additional formulas to make a work around so the ranking system stays valid. I dont think its easy to do so, even then you need to "patch" the formula for outliners the whole time. Maybe hard post to grasp, but i hope it made a bit sense.
Yeah you deffinitelly made sence. However the amount of times you would gain more would be about 5% of the times you have an AFK, you won't win more than that. It's just too keep the moral up and to make sure people don't think '' oh we won't lose anything so let's ff ''. However you can't give like x2 LP, but if you gave about 7 more LP, that would be enough for people to actually try without giving up and it wouldn't do so someone in plat elo got diamond. I don't think it would be that hard to impliment tbh, it could be done in a similar way as when the servers are bugging and you get loss prevented. Granted you usually win less as an opponent so it would but a fairly easy fix if riot really wanted to do it. Besied, they can't fk up the ranked systems more so this would at least show that they WANT to make the players happy haha
DutchPro (EUW)
: LMAO this is legit the change elo boosters/wintraders want lmao. Imagine getting rewarded for afking for the person u wintrading with lmao nice joke
I've said about 10 times now that if your duo afks, you do not get the benefits.
dino0 (EUW)
: You got standard riot respoonse, to new ideas they send people to boards to then not a have to talk to them :D They did this to me when i suggest a reform system, thats how i found boards. They dont care about player base ideias, they are more preocupied making more random skins to lux and ahri.
I do agree to that but I still gonna give it a go
Hahrimazd (EUW)
: First off, I can already smell this system getting abused to bits and pieces. Second of all, before they even remotely do such thing, it should maybe be considered a thing to provide LP to someone who actually came back and made a comeback possible before even implementing this system. Now, it would be pretty win-win situation if you AND don't lose LP, AND you gain MORE lp if you win. especially in higher elos this shit will be abused to oblivion.
as I've mentioned in 3 different instantses this would not go over diamond 3.
: Promotes toxicity: "Person is unintentionally feeding and the reason you're losing the game. Entire team: You go afk, you're the reason we lose, you suck, go afk, we don't deserve to lose LP because of you. %%%%ing go AFK" You don't want that
They get reports for toxic behaviour... I don't really see how this small thing would make ranked experience worse tbh
: > [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=sYHkOrxN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-29T11:05:12.893+0000) > > I doubt riot will not do that, cause people will abuse of that to rank up. > > Example: i duo with you, i see we gona lose i go afk to you not lose lp, or i see is a free win i go afk to give you more lp, or even you intetinal made a team member ragequit to you not lose lp, > > That will open a windows for people abuse so i doubt riot will implement that. Abuse it til you get banned? sure. And obviously the one who afks gets a penalty. Double LP loss for example. Riot will not implement it, because they don't give a f, not because its a bad idea.
I've already gotten answers from support desk that they will implement it if it get's enough attention. And when it comes to abuse if your duo goes afk, you don't get these changes, you lose/win the same LP as you'd do today. I can see how it can be abused in the top ranks where fewer people play like diamond 2+ but you could make so this system only goes to diamond 3, it's not a big deal.
: I like your approach, I think it's a good idea.
: what does that have to do with the topic solution though?
If you're worried that they'll queue same time and AFK incase they meet eachother, that would be so few people that it would be an easy ban. there's how many people in the rank that could do that? 0.01%? Shouldn't be an issue honestly
: on high elo they dont need premade, since not a lot of people aren't high rank people play together a lot of game they dont even need premade.
what does that have to do with the topic solution though?
: I doubt riot will not do that, cause people will abuse of that to rank up. Example: i duo with you, i see we gona lose i go afk to you not lose lp, or i see is a free win i go afk to give you more lp, or even you intetinal made a team member ragequit to you not lose lp, That will open a windows for people abuse so i doubt riot will implement that.
That's an easy fix. If they duo goes afk, then the premade get's regular loss or win LP as they would today. I've added in that solution to the post now. Thank you!
: I doubt riot will not do that, cause people will abuse of that to rank up. Example: i duo with you, i see we gona lose i go afk to you not lose lp, or i see is a free win i go afk to give you more lp, or even you intetinal made a team member ragequit to you not lose lp, That will open a windows for people abuse so i doubt riot will implement that.
That's an easy fix. If they duo goes afk, then the premade get's regular loss or win LP as they would today.
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Shamose (EUW)
: Oh shit I Figured out Riots master plan.
If that was true, where's the old 3v3 map? I miss it
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Doomley (EUW)
: >I'm not on the roster, I'm just a Captain/Manager. Just throwing this out there, captain is one of the players in the team. Just like bjergsen is a captain for TSM.
The captain doesn't necessarily have to be in the roster nor shotcall, just maintain a healthy relationship within the team even at hard times.
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: Top laner for team
Don't mind my rank, I'm not on the roster, I'm just the captain and got 3.5 years of team managing
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