Silent Note (EUNE)
: Except that the Terms of Use states that you're not allowed to harass your teammates. That's a rule you accepted when you registered. Rules are just like laws. You either broke them or you didn't. And even if you only break it 10% of the times, you still broke them, so you should be punished. Your examples are fundamentally different, because they're not related to rules in any way. The point here isn't that "You're toxic if you flame 10% of the games." The point is "You broke the rules in those 10% of the games, and you get punished for breaking the rules." I hope you can see the big difference between the two.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Note,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7A5IyGL3,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2020-01-23T15:32:01.843+0000) > > "You broke the rules, and you get punished for breaking the rules." Fix'd.
: Nah, i just honestly think he's lying. Also why do you think that I'm so malefic ? To only care about ways to flame people ? I clearly don't have a fetish in doing that, I just want a better gaming experience with less drama about things that don't matter that much.
> [{quoted}](name=The Hustler,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7A5IyGL3,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-23T14:37:26.458+0000) > > Nah, i just honestly think he's lying. > > Also why do you think that I'm so malefic ? To only care about ways to flame people ? I clearly don't have a fetish in doing that, I just want a better gaming experience with less drama about things that don't matter that much. Well, you're someone who thinks that's OK to flame. So who cares about what you think? And I don't think you're malefic. There's a concept called Hanlon's razor that perfectly fits this case.
: Define mild things and also define once and a while.
> [{quoted}](name=The Hustler,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7A5IyGL3,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2020-01-23T14:25:48.798+0000) > > Define mild things and also define once and a while. So that you know exactly how to play the system? Hell no. Don't flame. End of story.
Magneset (EUW)
: LP gain/loss question
: Of course it doesn't happen in your games, that's a good argument. An argument from personal experience has the value of exactly 0. But yet again, i told you to look at the reality, but i guess your reality is different. >if you are the toxic one, that will happen in eachof your games. If it does, then let me get banned. My point was exactly that if it happens only in a small portion of my games, it should not be considered such a big deal. But you do not pay attention to what I say right? You're just here to white-knight, with your low level account.
> [{quoted}](name=The Hustler,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7A5IyGL3,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-23T11:24:09.094+0000) > > Of course it doesn't happen in your games, that's a good argument. An argument from personal experience has the value of exactly 0. > > But yet again, i told you to look at the reality, but i guess your reality is different. > > If it does, then let me get banned. My point was exactly that if it happens only in a small portion of my games, it should not be considered such a big deal. But you do not pay attention to what I say right? You're just here to white-knight, with your low level account. I do not agree with you when you say it should be allowed on the sole reason "it happens only in a small portion of my games". It's not about white knight or anything. It's just that if I can shut up in game, why wouldn't I be able to ask others the same? And about the value of the argument, it's exactly the same as yours. Or maybe a little more, as toxicity attracts toxicity, it's only logical that a non-toxic player find less toxicity in his games than a toxic one.
: That literally only happens in LoL. You are saying those things like toxicity doesn't already happen every single game, even with this system. Why pretend that everything is so disastrous when since day 1 a player encounters toxicity. It is part of the game, even if they would instantly perma band players that "are toxic" there would still be toxicity in this game. It is kind of hard for some people to accept the reality, and also accept that "being toxic" happens and "not being toxic at all" means that you have to be perfect as I said.
> [{quoted}](name=The Hustler,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7A5IyGL3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-23T10:58:48.286+0000) > > That literally only happens in LoL. > > You are saying those things like toxicity doesn't already happen every single game, even with this system. > > Why pretend that everything is so disastrous when since day 1 a player encounters toxicity. It is part of the game, even if they would instantly perma band players that "are toxic" there would still be toxicity in this game. > > It is kind of hard for some people to accept the reality, and also accept that "being toxic" happens and "not being toxic at all" means that you have to be perfect as I said. It doesn't happen every single game. At least not in my games. But of course, if you are the toxic one, that will happen in eachof your games. And it's not about being perfect, it's about shutting up when you have nothing useful or nice to say and not inting. Very easy. Not even close to perfection.
: Nerf leona
The Q cooldown is 5 seconds. E 6 seconds, R 60. You're trash at math. Plus don't focus Leona. No need for a nerf here, just for a brain.
: What is considered toxic in LoL is pretty much an illusion.
Being toxic in 1 game out of 10 is not OK. You have 10 players in one game, it means that on average, there would be a toxic player in every game. This is not acceptable hence why it should lead to a ban. What about considering not being toxic at all? You don't need to be a robot for that, just a little self-control. Not hard. If you can't, go play Skyrim.
Wolity (EUW)
: Forcing 50% win rate
It would be fun to hide all the ranks until end of season so that people stop %%%%%ing about a system they don't understand and a lack of skill they deny.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-22T10:16:31.149+0000) > > I already answered, i dont remember what i did 1 and half year ago, sorry for that. > Btw, you had to go back 1 and half a year to find a game with 15 deaths? > Pretty sure i have earlier games with such deaths too. Nah, with shitty farm without being a support. The exact definition of "troll" according to you. And you didn't answered the two question : you were trolling, right? You need to get a permaban, right?
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-22T10:21:09.829+0000) > > For the third time, i dont remember if i was trolling. > Also go level up you are 7 level 3 days already and maybe get a gf and a job. I don't really care if you remember trolling. It's just straight fact according to you. You don't remember even playing in place of this akali, so how can you determine she was trolling only according to her CS if that doesn't apply directly to you too?
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000100010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-21T13:47:01.998+0000) > > Or just better at automating things than you. > You missed two very important questions, I'd like you to answer. I already answered, i dont remember what i did 1 and half year ago, sorry for that. Btw, you had to go back 1 year and half, to find a game with 15 deaths? Pretty sure i have earlier games with that amount of deaths too.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-22T10:16:31.149+0000) > > I already answered, i dont remember what i did 1 and half year ago, sorry for that. > Btw, you had to go back 1 and half a year to find a game with 15 deaths? > Pretty sure i have earlier games with such deaths too. Nah, with shitty farm without being a support. The exact definition of "troll" according to you. And you didn't answered the two question : you were trolling, right? You need to get a permaban, right?
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T15:31:46.522+0000) > > Remember that one? > https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1997621239?tab=overview > You were trolling, right? > So you need to get permaban, right? It seems you have a lot of free time. I dont really rememmber what i did one year ago, sorry.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0005000000010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-21T12:14:56.636+0000) > > It seems you have a lot of free time. I dont really rememmber what i did one year ago, sorry. Or just better at automating things than you. You missed two very important questions, I'd like you to answer.
: After Riots rules, you could get banned for what you write to them. Keep it in mind please and behave a bit friendly, your wannabe riot
> [{quoted}](name=íiì Marian íiì,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-21T11:31:53.565+0000) > > After Riots rules, you could get banned for what you write to them. Keep it in mind please and behave a bit friendly, > > your wannabe riot ?
Forte (EUNE)
: You need to get reported in 3 separate games for a suspension to take place. So it wasn't just that one game where you got reported.
> [{quoted}](name=Forte,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=j2Zjw1z9,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-21T07:02:33.760+0000) > > You need to get reported in 3 separate games for a suspension to take place. > So it wasn't just that one game where you got reported. No.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0005000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:58:35.047+0000) > > The first case is already handled. There are even cases where players with only one death in the game are banned for inting, because this only death was actual inting. > The second case is why you will never be trusted because that's shitty reasoning. > > The remaining of the post is only cries from someone in denial of his poor level with absolutely no objective proof to back up his opinion, so straight to the bin. You make me laugh at least that's something good, and also it seems you dont know what you are reading but ok does not matter, you are allowed to be at your own denial anyway. PS: If you think that 28 cs of midlaner in 25 minutes is not a banning reason then i have no more time to waste typing with you.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T14:03:34.450+0000) > > You make me laugh at least that's something good, and also it seems you dont know what you are reading but ok does not matter, you are allowed to be at your own denial anyway. > > PS: If you think that 28 cs of midlaner in 25 minutes is not a banning reason then i have no more time to waste typing with you. Remember that one? https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1997621239?tab=overview You were trolling, right? So you need to get permaban, right?
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:54:11.015+0000) > > I'd better pay to see you NOT changing anything. It does not matter, soon as it seems just a few people around the world will play this game anyway. EDIT: few people around the world will WASTE their time with this game anyway.***
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:56:34.708+0000) > > It does not matter, soon as it seems just a few people around the world will play this game anyway. > > EDIT: > few people around the world will WASTE their time with this game anyway.*** Ah, I was waiting for this one. LeAguE iS a DeAd GaMe anYwAy.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000100010000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:29:43.587+0000) > > The manual check thing comes up frequently and I don't think people quite understand the scope of how much man power would be required for this. > If one person has to review a game for feeding, and thousands upon thousands of people play every day, the amount of people required here would pretty much start generating a negative income to staff. > > You should see my match history every season. I bounce from low plat to high plat then tilt down to almost gold, then repeat. I don't know why it happens, but it's something I've noticed. > So when I go on streaks, they're rather spectacular. Does this mean I now get flagged as suspicious because I literally just had bad games in bunches? > > Again, presets are difficult to set. There's a multitude of ways that they can generally be false triggered. > > I think S4 on OCE was the worst in history for me. But we also notice certain things more at the start of a season. > I'm not dismissing your encounters or frustration, but I just don't see how getting angry at Riot over it, when they do their best to mitigate it, makes sense, when really the person at fault is the person feeding in the first place. 1. About the intentionally feeders the AI can determine when they choose everytime a specific route (for example walking straight mid/top/bot and die everytime with the same way. Also, if i play 20 minutes and my mid akali has 28 cs this is troll and nothing more or less. (this has happened) 2. You said you bounce up and down the divisions. Still even when you bounce like that i am pretty sure that you dont have 10 game losing streak. Also, why is this happening? Is because of RIOT bad matchmaking and not because you are a bad player just cuz RIOT wants to make players try hard to win and not just climb easily the broken ladder. So when you play good the matchmaking will look to break your streak. And i really dont believe that you are responsible for you bad games in bunches as you say, BUT the matchmaking. 3. How i am getting angry at riot over it. Well simply i was in my placements and 7 at least out of my 10 games where a joke. And no it was no coincidence because i was watching how my mates where playing and believe me i wanted to remove me eyes. Also, every game after my placements is a bad game. I dont know what changers RIOT made or did not make in s10 matchmaking but is just bad and nothing else. I know what kind of player i am, i know my cons and pros, i know when i make a bad call or a good call and i am not used in blaming my team and not understanding if i did something bad. Also, because i like facts, feel free to invite me to a game to play together so you see that what i say is not fiction.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000001000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:46:43.902+0000) > > 1. About the intentionally feeders the AI can determine when they choose everytime a specific route (for example walking straight mid/top/bot and die everytime with the same way. > Also, if i play 20 minutes and my mid akali has 28 cs this is troll and nothing more or less. (this has happened) The first case is already handled. There are even cases where players with only one death in the game are banned for inting, because this only death was actual inting. The second case is why you will never be trusted because that's shitty reasoning. The remaining of the post is only cries from someone in denial of his poor level with absolutely no objective proof to back up his opinion, so straight to the bin.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:33:01.161+0000) > > So there is a system. > > And how should it work then? Give precise description of that system that won't give any false positive nor false negative. Enjoy. Give me some of RIOT billions and you will be free to watch the change.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:48:24.113+0000) > > Give me some of RIOT billions and you will be free to watch the change. I'd better pay to see you NOT changing anything.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:16:40.969+0000) > > So.... there is a system that handles it, right? NOT in the way it should ***
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:27:30.328+0000) > > NOT in the way it should *** So there is a system. And how should it work then? Give precise description of that system that won't give any false positive nor false negative. Enjoy.
Spoukis (EUNE)
: Teamfight tactics TIMER
I think it's part of the game. Time is a resource like any other and must be used wisely. Rookie mistake I did to roll 50 gold in on round and not being able to change what I had to, now I only roll 30 -40 in one round to keep enough time to finish. Or get faster at rolling/placing.
: Because I wasn't paying attention and replied to the wrong comment :^) Edit: It's because I couldn't hide our romance any longer tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:16:26.107+0000) > > Because I wasn't paying attention and replied to the wrong comment :^) > > Edit: > > It's because I couldn't hide our romance any longer tbh. Awww.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:07:55.023+0000) > > Sure, go check about bans for inting on the boards. There is none. > > > Wait... there is. > > But there is no system. > > > How? So, you are naive indeed. Of course there would be bans because if there where not, it would be a huge proof of the faulty system. The thing is that those bans are a hole in the water and do not adresss the problem at all. And because i like to talk with facts, later today i will upload a picture of every game i play today here at the boards so that you and everyone else see how things are in almost every game.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:13:29.341+0000) > > So, you are naive indeed. > > Of course there would be bans because if there where not, it would be a huge proof of the faulty system. > The thing is that those bans are a hole in the water and do not adresss the problem at all. > > And because i like to talk with facts, later today i will upload a picture of every game i play today here at the boards so that you and everyone else see how things are in almost every game. So.... there is a system that handles it, right?
: >tribunal could be slow but was not inaccurate. It was both. That's why Riot removed. It was slow and the false positive rate was no where near as low as it is nowadays. Not saying the current system is perfect, but for your OP of flaming vs inting: It's not that one is cared about more than the other,_** it's that one is infinitely easier to detect than the other**_ , so it's punished much more frequently. With flaming, the text logs are there. It's hard evidence, black and white, this is what was said. So, as a result, a machine can pretty quickly pick up if you're flaming or being toxic towards others. With intentional feeding, it gets trickier. You can't just set a "if you die X times it's feeding". I've been in games where the average death count was in the double digits, for example. Basically, outside of the incredibly obvious cases, you can't set a prefix set of criteria for bans here without risk of dishing out a bunch of not deserved bans in the process. As a result, you're now asking a machine to determine whether you did something on purpose, or whether it was just a stupid mistake. E.G. Ever done something really silly like look at a fight bot lane and as a result accidentally walk to your own demise? Now, how would the machine be able to determine that was an error on your part, or if you just ran it down? This is why it gets tricky, and why it takes longer to pick up on instances of intentional feeding - the system has to figure out what you were thinking at the time, if it was deliberate, or if it was just a bad game. Unfortunately, sometimes the only way to figure that out is by behavioral patterns - which typically can't be determined over one game, again unless it's super blatant. It's not a matter of Riot caring more about one than another, it's a matter of it just being easier to detect and having a faster turn around time on review. Again, the system is far from perfect - I run into intentional feeders too. But it's still much better than Tribunal ever was, and there is no bias towards flaming over inting. If either are detected and verified, they both get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000001,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:12:57.723+0000) > > It was both. That's why Riot removed. It was slow and the false positive rate was no where near as low as it is nowadays. > > Not saying the current system is perfect, but for your OP of flaming vs inting: > > It's not that one is cared about more than the other,_** it's that one is infinitely easier to detect than the other**_ , so it's punished much more frequently. > > With flaming, the text logs are there. It's hard evidence, black and white, this is what was said. So, as a result, a machine can pretty quickly pick up if you're flaming or being toxic towards others. > > With intentional feeding, it gets trickier. You can't just set a "if you die X times it's feeding". I've been in games where the average death count was in the double digits, for example. > Basically, outside of the incredibly obvious cases, you can't set a prefix set of criteria for bans here without risk of dishing out a bunch of not deserved bans in the process. > > As a result, you're now asking a machine to determine whether you did something on purpose, or whether it was just a stupid mistake. > E.G. Ever done something really silly like look at a fight bot lane and as a result accidentally walk to your own demise? > Now, how would the machine be able to determine that was an error on your part, or if you just ran it down? > This is why it gets tricky, and why it takes longer to pick up on instances of intentional feeding - the system has to figure out what you were thinking at the time, if it was deliberate, or if it was just a bad game. > Unfortunately, sometimes the only way to figure that out is by behavioral patterns - which typically can't be determined over one game, again unless it's super blatant. > > > It's not a matter of Riot caring more about one than another, it's a matter of it just being easier to detect and having a faster turn around time on review. > > Again, the system is far from perfect - I run into intentional feeders too. But it's still much better than Tribunal ever was, and there is no bias towards flaming over inting. If either are detected and verified, they both get punished. Why did I get pinged?
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:02:02.514+0000) > > Accuracy is a bad metric for the problem here. Go for precision and recall. > > Plus I'm not naive here, I'm only interested, I know how the system works, I know how the concept works, and I know how hard, if not impossible, to get a perfect system. > > But hey, if a %%%%%% that doesn't know shit about the system or any concept of stats says the system is shit, maybe he's right, right? Nobody talks about a perfect system but there is no actual systems right now anyway. If you believe that a system exists (and that it works too) you are even more naive than i thought. If the concept is about banning the flamers then i can accept that it works,ok.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2020-01-20T13:05:02.061+0000) > > Nobody talks about a perfect system but there is no actual systems right now anyway. > If you believe that a system exists (and that it works too) you are even more naive than i thought. > If the concept is about banning the flamers then i can accept that it works,ok. Sure, go check about bans for inting on the boards. There is none. Wait... there is. But there is no system. How?
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: The system is shit anyway and the tribunal could be slow but was not inaccurate. Also, you must be naive believing that RIOT cant make a better banning system than the existed one.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2020-01-20T12:46:46.862+0000) > > The system is shit anyway and the tribunal could be slow but was not inaccurate. > Also, you must be naive believing that RIOT cant make a better banning system than the existed one. Accuracy is a bad metric for the problem here. Go for precision and recall. Plus I'm not naive here, I'm only interested, I know how the system works, I know how the concept works, and I know how hard, if not impossible, to get a perfect system. But hey, if a %%%%%% that doesn't know shit about the system or any concept of stats says the system is shit, maybe he's right, right?
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: To begin with, a billion dollar company has every way (ways even you dont know and i dont know) to find out who is intentionally trolling or not. Secondly, the tribunal was really good (btw i had 99,6 accuracy in the tribunal) which as you say was not accurate. Last but not least, even if one year has passed by the time you did something bad and was not punished, it does not mean that you should not be punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Dvs Hexler,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=q0REkswU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-01-20T11:26:57.022+0000) > > To begin with, a billion dollar company has every way (ways even you dont know and i dont know) to find out who is intentionally trolling or not. > Secondly, the tribunal was really good (btw i had 99,6 accuracy in the tribunal) which as you say was not accurate. > Last but not least, even if one year has passed by the time you did something bad and was not punished, it does not mean that you should not be punished. It's like saying a billion dollars company is able to find the perfect cure to cancer. Gues what : it's not working like that. The tribunal was shit. 99.6 accuracy means shit, because when it's compared to truth, it does only go to ~90%. Plus accuracy is a shit metric in this case. And add to that the time to take a decision and the very low reform rate, you have an even shitier shity system. It was a good step at the time, but it's now obsolete in every way possible.
Dvs Hexler (EUNE)
: Bored of RIOT systems that only cares about flaming
: Ranked placements
That's why there are 10 games.
: league dont care about south africans its almost as if its a deliberate act of sabotage
Ange361 (EUNE)
: My love , i will give you my account, play some games... then talk to me... about bronze silver... :)).Dude... try to be constructive.I`TS %%%%ING PAY TO WIN... THIS IS WHY YOU ARE ARE HARD STUCK.
> [{quoted}](name=Ange361,realm=EUNE,application-id=jeJYsmwG,discussion-id=Vhd0zMiL,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2020-01-19T11:09:20.103+0000) > > My love , i will give you my account, play some games... then talk to me... about bronze silver... :)).Dude... try to be constructive.I`TS %%%%ING PAY TO WIN... THIS IS WHY YOU ARE ARE HARD STUCK. This is what deny looks like.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: Easy mode?????Play as me cassiope as adc and try to carry the game.You can`t even if :) you are 20.7 ....;)... it`s hard my love....
> [{quoted}](name=Ange361,realm=EUNE,application-id=jeJYsmwG,discussion-id=Vhd0zMiL,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-01-19T11:04:46.084+0000) > > Easy mode?????Play as me cassiope as adc and try to carry the game.You can`t even if :) you are 20.7 ....;)... it`s hard my love.... You are bronze. Silver at max. That's easy mode.
Ange361 (EUNE)
: IMPORTANT
Dude playing in easy mode wondering why he has better stats than challengers. Made my day.
ignit3 (EUW)
: The S system
Maybe if you fixed how you play instead of trying to fix a system you can't understand, it would solve some problems.
sbepi (EUW)
: i ordered my kebab 1 hour ago, still waiting it. any news about it?
> [{quoted}](name=sbepi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8z45cTz9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-17T16:12:18.867+0000) > > i ordered my kebab 1 hour ago, still waiting it. any news about it? The cook exploded.
: Okay pls tell me what is toxic then because I see the word getting thrown around quite a bit but noone ever actually defines it at all
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T15:23:35.832+0000) > > Okay pls tell me what is toxic then because I see the word getting thrown around quite a bit but noone ever actually defines it at all It would be quicker to tell you what in the chatlogs is not toxic, but I feel too much sarcasm that I can't find anything not toxic. Please uninstall the game and go play solo games.
: Okay at which point do you consider something shit talking? Is it shit talking If I tell someone he should buy differently for example? Is it shit talking if I tell someone he should play differently next time a Situation arises? cause the only definition I find about talking shit is and I quote "when someone says unnecessary shit about someone behind their back" according to which you can´t even shit talk someone in chat cause they can see it and if you deem it necessary, f.e. when you try to win the game and tell someone how to play better, it´s not talking shit
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T15:28:35.775+0000) > > Okay at which point do you consider something shit talking? > Is it shit talking If I tell someone he should buy differently for example? > Is it shit talking if I tell someone he should play differently next time a Situation arises? > cause the only definition I find about talking shit is and I quote "when someone says unnecessary shit about someone behind their back" according to which you can´t even shit talk someone in chat cause they can see it and if you deem it necessary, f.e. when you try to win the game and tell someone how to play better, it´s not talking shit You're no one to teach them. Get this in your head. And I'm pretty sure that shit talk like "stop inting" seems like you're very smart, but it doesn't. But hey, if you don't want to undertand, please continue to shit talk. Next time it's permaban.
: Look I rly do not care if you believe me or not. you can look up this smurf and you will see it has a 65% winrate in plat 2. Admittedly it is quite a bit lower than I actually expected but like I said I played on the account especially at the beginning with low elo friends and I only started playing my main role when I got promoted to plat 4. This is my first time ever posting on this forum and I actually want to find out for what you get banned because the only thing I hear from Riots side is you get banned for toxicity (of our city, of our city) without ever actually defining what toxicity actually means. And what annoys me quite a bit that they have massively changed their standpoint on what is toxic and what isn´t over the years without any statement on it.
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:57:24.910+0000) > > Look I rly do not care if you believe me or not. you can look up this smurf and you will see it has a 65% winrate in plat 2. Admittedly it is quite a bit lower than I actually expected but like I said I played on the account especially at the beginning with low elo friends and I only started playing my main role when I got promoted to plat 4. > This is my first time ever posting on this forum and I actually want to find out for what you get banned because the only thing I hear from Riots side is you get banned for toxicity (of our city, of our city) without ever actually defining what toxicity actually means. And what annoys me quite a bit that they have massively changed their standpoint on what is toxic and what isn´t over the years without any statement on it. Don't talk shit in chat. It seems pretty simple to me.
: I´m not? So it doesn´t matter what the actual Players of the game think? Quite sure that is a bad consumer policy on Riots side then.
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:58:56.613+0000) > > I´m not? > So it doesn´t matter what the actual Players of the game think? > Quite sure that is a bad consumer policy on Riots side then. Players, yes. Toxic players, no.
: if someone does not do his job or buys objectively worse items than they could have at a elo where they obviously know how to play than yes they are trolling. I would never blame someone for not playing bad at gold elo or lower, but anyone that plays in high plat or better either knows what their win condition on their champ is and how to play towards it or they have bought or boosted their account which I see equal if not worse than blatantly trolling
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:42:48.645+0000) > > if someone does not do his job or buys objectively worse items than they could have at a elo where they obviously know how to play than yes they are trolling. I would never blame someone for not playing bad at gold elo or lower, but anyone that plays in high plat or better either knows what their win condition on their champ is and how to play towards it or they have bought or boosted their account which I see equal if not worse than blatantly trolling You are no one to decide that though. And we go back to what I said.
: so you are okay with banning people for flame but not for trolling?
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:34:03.746+0000) > > so you are okay with banning people for flame but not for trolling? Both. The difference is you are too much of a crybaby to ever comply with your defition of troll.
: I have srsly only ever seen one player get banned for trolling in the 9 years I play this game and that was when I sent a Video and Screenshots directly to Riot support and I´m still unsure if he got banned for the trolling act or the fact he also flamed
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:16:23.558+0000) > > I have srsly only ever seen one player get banned for trolling in the 9 years I play this game and that was when I sent a Video and Screenshots directly to Riot support and I´m still unsure if he got banned for the trolling act or the fact he also flamed So what?
: No I´m not like I said this is not my main account I know for a fact that I´m quite a bit higher than they are and there are actually quite a few people that appreciated my help
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:17:42.163+0000) > > No I´m not like I said this is not my main account I know for a fact that I´m quite a bit higher than they are and there are actually quite a few people that appreciated my help Indeed you are.
: Wll I´m quite sure that I do play quite well and obviously I have my chat muted on my main, only reason I even started to write on this account was trying to explain to my team how to actually play the game
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:14:04.107+0000) > > Wll I´m quite sure that I do play quite well and obviously I have my chat muted on my main, only reason I even started to write on this account was trying to explain to my team how to actually play the game You're as trash as them. Keep it shut.
: rly? That is a bannable offense? What are you supposed to do then to prevent Trolls from getting away with it?
> [{quoted}](name=OvFireAndVoid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qFz5lB0J,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-17T14:11:52.608+0000) > > rly? That is a bannable offense? What are you supposed to do then to prevent Trolls from getting away with it? Just report them.
: Please Help me understand my Ban
Do you play or write a novel in chat?
: This post is like a Bargain with Riot for 1 year ban, not perma as it is now. But You cannot bargain with them. They don't care, move on with other games. I did try, had an unfair ban for joking around. Riot support explained how i am toxic, anti-Semitic, racist. Which is not true, since i had lv5 honor. I was honored every game almost, a toxic person won't be honored so much. But it did not matter for Riot support. This was for a 14 days ban over 1 game. ( no previous banns or anything like that) After the ban was over i was EXTREMELY toxic and furious about the unfair ban. So i didn't care about people, about the game, nothing basically. Death threats, sexism , racism and all you can think off. So this ban was suppose to REFORM ME or something, all it did was make things worse then ever. Managed to chill and get back to being normal chill person after some time. If i was banned for something real, i would understand . But for joking around i will never accept or understand.
> [{quoted}](name=Bulgarian Legend,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=s7j9fVTK,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2020-01-16T14:55:55.795+0000) > > You cannot bargain with them. I did try, had an unfair ban for joking around. > Riot support explained how i am toxic, anti-Semitic, racist. Which is not true, since i had lv5 honor. I was honored every game almost, a toxic person won't be honored so much. But it did not matter for Riot support. > This was for a 14 days ban. > I didn't play the game for a half a year, i was very upset because of this ban. If i was banned for something real, i would understand . But for joking around i will never accept or understand. I'm not a killer. I've met so much people who are still alive. I even have some days when I killed no one. I don't understand why I'm in prison.
: AFK'S
Sure buddy, we will invent time travel engine to know if someone ragequitted a game to forbid him to play in the first place.
: Vladimir
Just got rekt by a Vladimir : Checked. Didn't buy Grievous Wounds item : Checked. Congratulation, you just passed the %%%%%% detection test. Your result is positive.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sylwek8000,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rh4nxeeP,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-14T18:13:28.851+0000) > > Now I see why you are level 7 At least I can make my client work without crying.
> [{quoted}](name=Sylwek8000,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rh4nxeeP,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-14T19:05:12.566+0000) > > Nobody is crying. And nobody is forcing you to read or write on this thread. Wow you can make your client work. You are boss at life, my friend. And htat's the embodiment of deny. Congratulation.
Sylwek8000 (EUNE)
: Now I see why you are level 7
> [{quoted}](name=Sylwek8000,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rh4nxeeP,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-14T18:13:28.851+0000) > > Now I see why you are level 7 At least I can make my client work without crying.
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