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> [{quoted}](name=CoolKnightST,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=XRUu0E08,comment-id=000400010002,timestamp=2017-07-08T15:12:03.426+0000)
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> Try this {{champion:53}} {{item:3401}} {{item:2045}} {{item:3117}} {{item:3109}} {{item:3050}} {{item:3800}}
Would buy rede over righteous glory.
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> [{quoted}](name=Am Croco,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=ImAW1YFt,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-08T00:45:38.362+0000)
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> so u tell me if u plyed 2000 matches u can do it reach higher I DARE YOU and show me with evidence u people don't get it at all
I got to diamond in less than 400. Guess i can.
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> [{quoted}](name=Am Croco,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=ImAW1YFt,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-07-07T17:12:23.737+0000)
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> i look up but also i will get plyer arond at least high silvers low golds but i get the unranked once and bronze 1 i mean wtf the match was so shiity and not carry-able
Over 2000 games you were unable to carry 1200? And it was always your team's fault?
Well i've got some bad news for you
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48% winrate with 2k> games and hardstuck gold V, getting matched with low silver/bronze people, playing a champ you average 2/7 with.
You are getting exactly the kind of matchmaking you deserve, your MMR is just pure trash
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> [{quoted}](name=MightyBananaKing,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=47UfKBHc,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-07T16:34:27.380+0000)
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> haha xD ty ty
i wasn't joking tbh
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Welcome to the official ELO Hell.
You're about to start missing Bronze 1.
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> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MVkbZHEf,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-07-07T14:16:43.255+0000)
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> So? Its called one trick pony. He can play YI on master level. Doesnt mean he can play any other champion on that level
HE'S LITERALLY TROLLING GAMES, WATCH THE %%%%ING VIDEO I LINKED, HOW CAN YOU DEFEND A INTER, REALLY
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> [{quoted}](name=Spirit Crush,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=XRUu0E08,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-07-07T09:03:51.341+0000)
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> http://imgur.com/a/wRCcU
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> PRESENCE IN LANE GUISE.
> Meh maybe I'm just too autistic for this game.
glad u lost with full ap ahri support w/o redemption or solari.
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> [{quoted}](name=GPet,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=XRUu0E08,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-07-07T12:12:58.226+0000)
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> Looks like a 5v5 to me. .-.
3v5 at best i doubt 1/12 teammates can count as team members. More like minions.
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> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MVkbZHEf,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-06T19:31:30.379+0000)
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> Look at his Kled games. He probably can only play Yi in jungle.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WINRATE OVER 400 GAMES THAT IS NOT A PERSON PLAYING ON HIS ELO
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Until you learn to adapt your builds (And considering you're already 0-1 in placements) (The same build over and over doesn't work, you need to know when to buy MR, when to buy armor, when to buy mercury or tabi...) and how to farm a little better, i'd say bronze 2-silver 4 (4-6 to 6-4, doubt you'll do worse or better). The reasons are simple
-Your champion pool is pretty much only Camille, which mean that if she gets banned you're going to lose the lane most likely
-You have zero supports and in low elos autofill is a thing
-You farm poorly, which places you at a gold disadvantage. 20 cs = 1 kill.
I would hold for another month or so and practice CSing and learn how to adapt your build. It's ok to be an OTP, but you need to learn your champ better, not only mechanically, but also in terms of map awareness (You need to improve this) and builds.
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> [{quoted}](name=Super Hooker,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MVkbZHEf,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2017-07-07T07:11:47.150+0000)
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> i did. so we should just ban every bad player in lol? You would fall into that category.
Int =/= being a bad player
This guy int feeds games. He has a 100% winrate in nearly 400 games as yi, he could climb if he wanted, you gotta be stupid to think h e's tryharding with 0/10 fervor of battle ahri
also, i won't.
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> [{quoted}](name=Fathands,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MVkbZHEf,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-07-07T00:03:04.536+0000)
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> You're kinda late mate, this shit was settled a month or so ago.
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> The guy was punished. Leave the poor %%%%er alone.
He's still playing (And inting!) Check opgg! :)
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> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MVkbZHEf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-06T18:53:19.080+0000)
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> He was banned.
He wasn't.
Played 8 hours ago: https://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=elave
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> [{quoted}](name=What did i zed,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=xMpE1i8B,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-07-06T16:20:36.947+0000)
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> how can you do that if you can see no more than they do
Keeping control about the map is very important, and something you can't always do while playing.
I understand that if you're new to the game you won't get why, but on higher level gameplay, a single missplay like not realizing your laner is missing can lead to extreme snowballing.
If i have a friend warning me about when is their midlaner going bot incase my mid forgets, i'm way safer pushing bot, for example. It's all about extra information that my teammates might forget to give as they are playing and not only watching the game.
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TBH it's easier to just buy DnU for 975 RP.
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Because it would mean 6vs5 games. You can warn friends about basically everything going on.
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> [{quoted}](name=Smerk,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=gmEOzHZr,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-07-06T12:23:17.445+0000)
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> I stopped using op.gg after I noticed how ridiculously they calculate MMR on their site. That time I lost over 200 MMR after 5 games win streak, something that just cannot happen in reality.
I lost 12 games on a row and lost only 100 MMR according to OPGG
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My {{champion:96}} adc bought targon's items because he said i needed gold to rush ardent censer ASAP.
Fun fact, we won.
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> [{quoted}](name=Leonheart,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=MmPKHUYu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-05T20:48:02.884+0000)
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> It could be since lvl 4 will be much harder and will take even more time and lvl 5 is not for every player in the game.
only for ARAM players who buy skin boosts
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> [{quoted}](name=shamshamm,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=nmrEUExO,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-05T21:26:42.342+0000)
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"While near turrets"
You just found out why it's not 20% movespeed.
Also, "builds up" =/= "plain 20%"
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> [{quoted}](name=shamshamm,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=nmrEUExO,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-05T21:07:10.384+0000)
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> It's 95% gold efficient :v and 120% gold efficient when near a turret
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> Compare it to the stats on sunfire cape or dead man plate who give similar stats (minus the cdr and health regen) which are both 80% gold efficient
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> I'd understand if you were disrespecting the 300 hp and 50 armor, which are decent, but the other items give more of those stats, but you can't spit on that extra cdr and health regen not to mention the 20% movespeed
20% movespeed?
Re-read the item...
Y'know, 99'98% of the playerbase including every pro player tends to be right.
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> [{quoted}](name=shamshamm,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=nmrEUExO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-05T20:53:18.908+0000)
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> You should seriously just try it, it's so cheesy, the snowball is redarted, just get a bit of a lead _and it's not hard to do since the build path gives good stats while you're at it)_ and they can't even defend their towers anymore cause you'll just dive them for a clean ace
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> That item is messed up busted
Only useful when you stomping so hard that you can afford to 5v5 dive hard, but if you're that ahead that you can 5v5 dive why would you buy this? It gives bad stats for its cost.
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The WR of something bought in 0.02% of all the games means nothing.
It's a trash item, why would you waste an slot on zac or leona for that? Better buy a tank item as zac or a solari as leona.
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> [{quoted}](name=GZA The Genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tgRZpKVc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-05T20:17:24.773+0000)
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> Why do you even want to rank up? You are gold!! (just like me). Your end of season reward is guaranteed
plat and dia borders, personal realization???
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bronze 1 > silver/gold/plat/dia5
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They balance the game basing on high elo because low elo players don't know what they're doing, and so it would be stupid to balance the game around people who thinks darius is OP.
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normal
games
mmr
has
nothing
to
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with
ranked
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> [{quoted}](name=Rev del Rey ,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0ce8VEOQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-04T19:20:48.126+0000)
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> Where are the insults? if you read that zed was blaming the jungler when he was losing 1 v 1 Katarina
Flaming isn't only insulting, and your attitude there is toxic.
Yo, ik what i'm talking about, i have seven toxicity permabans and i never insulted anyone, but that kind of flaming is what got me perma after perma.
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Rev del Rey : with ur shit pick
Rev del Rey : just cuz u are autofilled
Rev del Rey : i literally asked for mid
Rev del Rey : and u play like that
Rev del Rey : picking zed
Rev del Rey : into katarina
Rev del Rey : heywatch me
Rev del Rey : im a main zed
Rev del Rey : im the shadow assassin
yes
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> [{quoted}](name=Am Croco,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td3ucEkw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-04T16:38:15.897+0000)
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> I know but at the same time what the point get into match people with excuses
Just tell them to play their role.
2 hours queues were kind of boring
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> [{quoted}](name=ÜFudginator,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nM8Y8E8y,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-03T18:45:58.595+0000)
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> Not really a disadvantage, because then first blood would be gone and the ability of the other team to get it gone with it.
Who would pick a lanebully when a hypercarry gets 2x gold
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To prevent BMing
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This encourages farm lanes and makes lanebullies have a disadvantage
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stay base and the game is over in <15 mins
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I thought it was about the honor.
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Sorry i'm autofilled
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"unless you are high tier"
IT ONLY GETS WORSE THE HIGHER THE TIER IS.
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> [{quoted}](name=Glaciating Flame,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=MrUVMuk6,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-07-03T13:18:19.509+0000)
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> Why does a silver player have to face a platinum player to prove that he is worthy of climbing to gold?
Because your current MMR is the same one as that platinum player.
Leagues are just a cosmetic thing. You get matched based on your MMR.
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Diamond 5 is the absolute hell.
People just does not care about winning anymore because they are already on Diamond, mainly.
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It's kind of easy.
If you go 0-6-0, at some point you stop giving gold, so it stops being worth to come 2vs1 you for the enemy jungler. And since you're farming a lot, you're going to be hard to kill and deal a lot of dmg regardless of your score.
Also, enemy toplaner is busy protecting his tower because his wave never gets there, so he has to tank the minions himself in order to protect his tower, and sooner or later the tower will go down. So at some point you are farming both mid and top waves, with enemy team having no choice but stop you, and when they come to stop you, your team has free objetives. And if they don't, well, they'll lose mid tower to siege and top tower to minion push at some point since they've got no wave
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You don't get punished.
If you get a big winstreak, you gain a lot of MMR, and tho, you get placed with better people who has better MMR.
Seems kinda easy to understand for me.
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> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pe3fX9bT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-03T00:36:15.913+0000)
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> Let's ask it differently:
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> Both situations suck, since they're ruining the game experience for you. We all queue up to have a fair match.
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> However, in the long run, having an afk player on your team isn't preventing you from climbing the ladder, since you'll win just as many games due to them appearing on the enemy team.
Actually, AFKs make you GAIN LP. Because assuming you're not an AFK, chances you find an AFK in your team are 4/10 while chances he is on enemy team are 5/10.
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> [{quoted}](name=Osir1s1,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AqI5uEuv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-03T07:18:49.712+0000)
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> Man without crit I dont deal any dmg. I was planning to do so but my whole team died along with me in fights and didn t have time to buy botrk and don t even know if it would be enough he healed himself a lot from his q right when he was almost dead and got heals from his supp so quite impossible to put him down and trust me kiting him with vayne is not easy she has the lowest range he can grab me then slow me and ult and gg but I guess is normal for a champ to press R and win easy like that
PD gives crit. BOTRK is the item you rush as when playing Vayne. IE is something you build later on in Vayne - Your build looks like a standard Caitlyn build, but Vayne's playstile is very different. Attack Speed is all on Vayne. Get BOTRK first, then PD. It's how you build her, as long as you keep doing IE into stattik not only darius but every tank is going to wreck you hard.
I gave you some help as a diamond support main. You can listen to it or downvote it and ignore it. Either way is fine by me.
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If they made dodge 2-5-10 mins with no LP punishment it'll take 100 years to start a game because ppl would dodge whenever their champ got picked or countered
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Darius is OK, but you are bad.
Why didn't you build BOTRK to kite him? You just made a pointless IE rush followed by Stattik, no BOTRK to kite no PD to reduce damage incoming, how do you plan on winning vs a juggernaut without those items? U just don't know how to play vs him.
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> [{quoted}](name=Yasei Pengin,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=EanIiyjE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-07-02T23:01:35.245+0000)
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> Yes
u missclicked teleport 99%
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You were supposed to go either for chaos or order, not split.
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Lulu is BAE

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