: You know one of the prime rules of war? Deserters get shot.
You know one of the prime rules of strategy? Insisting on fighting a losing battle instead of retreating while it is still possible, is dumb, wasteful, illogical, and will cause you to lose the war.
: >It pretty much shows in what kind of mental state you're in. Its called "playing to win". Try it sometimes, winning is fun. >what you come up with in the meantime? My post was written over a month ago. L2Use Timestamps.
>And gg to rito for removing my post because of "offensive behavior" even though it contained 0 insults or any type of offensive words. When you make a negative comment about someones mental state in a bar, or other public place, I am pretty sure you will immediately see that it a) is an insult b) has consequences Not that keyboard warriors, who only ever dare to make such remarks under the cover of anonymity, would ever do that, but I think you get my point. Bottom line is: QQ more. YOu break the rules, your post gets removed.
Scartung (EUNE)
: Rolle stereotypes
>Top laners are quiet people who wants to be left alone, and stuff like that. {{champion:92}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:266}} mains. Think again.
: AM I TOXIC?
>If yes please explain me why and how I got reported. If you were reported and punished for it, you had a reform card. (That big thing when you log in, telling you you are not allowed to play, or chat restricted) If you did not get one (they are impossible to miss if you know how your eyes work), then your rewards are fine, and the reason why you don't have your border yet is **because as said about 100000000 times by riot, it can take some days for every account to receive them.** So, be patient, young Padawan.
: Is it new to take LP away from you for a win if you afk'ed for some of the match? Can I complain?
Let me put it in simple terms: >if ( you.afk() ) > contribute = false; > >if ( contribute ) > you.get_reward();
Cebelon (EUW)
: with replays and chat log hahahah no no it isen't and usally just what the person pick for champino and summoner another huge tell
Wow so simple solution. You must be a Genius! I bet no one has had that thought ever before! Tell me, why aren't you working as a player behavior specialist at some big gaming company and make 150.000$ or more a year? Could it be because things are not as simple as you claim?
Cebelon (EUW)
: trolls trolls and trollssss
>trolls trolls and trollssss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvYfRiJQIX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHTFCZgm6HU
im Pride (EUNE)
: Nah, I can't say i care too much, you joke. Keep tryharding
>I can't say i care too much Suuuure, and that is toootally believable, given that you reply to each and every post I write here ;-) Now, you have two options...you can stop replying, or you can continue to reply, and thus prove that I am right. Normally I'd say that there is a third option, which is play a game of LoL to calm down, but as we both know, that's not actually an option in this case. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
CS Primo (EUW)
: Tanks are dead,please rework resolve tree :(
And you base this fantasy on ... what exactly?
Plox Plox (EUW)
: I'm in bronze on this account and can tell that these people don't have a brain. In platin you atleast know that they have one, sometimes it's bugging but atleast THEY HAVE ONE.
>atleast THEY HAVE ONE. I will paraphrase Ob Wan Kenobi: _"Whos the bigger fool, the fool, or the fool who knows better?_ Yes, Plat players have more skill. However, they are also more susceptible to throw games where they feel their player-genius insulted (for example, by someone dying once on their team).
im Pride (EUNE)
: Then don't try to make it seem like the fail is on me bruv. :D
Don't worry, you already did that yourself.
: After said word, there was no point being made. All I saw was some of the usual "Internet-Tough-Guy-Talk" which I just ignore.
Awww cute, the shoulder clapping :D Wont bringt your account back. I'm off playing ;-)
: After said word, there was no point being made. All I saw was some of the usual "Internet-Tough-Guy-Talk" which I just ignore.
wow, such argument, very sophistocation.
: After said word, there was no point being made. All I saw was some of the usual "Internet-Tough-Guy-Talk" which I just ignore.
:D You just devaluated everything you wrote, or will write. GOOD BYE
Drogo (EUNE)
: That was my second word out of many, how ignorant can u be? Bloody hell
After said word, there was no point being made. All I saw was some of the usual "Internet-Tough-Guy-Talk" which I just ignore.
Drogo (EUNE)
: You totally ignored my main point but anyway i thought he got 14 day ban
>>You totally ignored my main point There was no point to ignore. You told me to shut up, I told you I wont.
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BAA8mElR,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-11-13T09:36:22.072+0000) > > Because this isn't a courtroom, noone is under oath or otherwise legally obligated to provide proof, especially not when writing a 6-liner response. > Oh, stay assured you don't need to explain that to me. A lot of nonsense on the pages passes for truth, and i would have grown old if i tried to see even a slight a reasoning in most of it. It's just that sometimes these truths are presented with such an intrepid disregard for even a basic explanation that i can't resist to challenge the approach itself, rather than the matter at hand. At the end of the day, then end result is still no different than a common ALL CAPS F@@K YOU RIOT THIS GAME IS DEAD thread, so i guess i could have spared that bit of time. Still, i like to try anway once in a while.
As I have said before, if you want me to, I will happily present my reasoning as to my beliefs on how the balance situation will develop.
Drogo (EUNE)
: Dude stfu, you are pinpointing too much and trying to hard, yes, i guess you can say that he was annoying but he had never verbally assaulted anybody, there are way worse players that get the same amount of punishment.
>Dude stfu Are you somehow under the impression that I have to care about random people on the internet telling me to be quiet? That's rich :D >i guess you can say that he was annoying I think the word you are looking for is "toxic". >there are way worse players that get the same amount of punishment. That's because there is no worse punishment than a permaban.
im Pride (EUNE)
: I did bro, make sure to properly read next time!
Nah, I won't. Some texts are not worth much attention.
im Pride (EUNE)
: :D:D:D:D
Awww, you think you won. Alright, you were the Shaco. Idc. There is plenty more: **Mocking.** >im Pride: i wanna u meik einglish gret agen! **Spam.** >im Pride: SHACE im Pride: AHAHAHHAHAHA im Pride: SHACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE im Pride: AHAHAHAHHAHA im Pride: nc england im Pride: shadhsahdhahadhadhahaha im Pride: HAHAHAHA im Pride: GG. **Blame.** >im Pride: 2/8 **Nonsensical Blame** >im Pride: this game would be free im Pride: if you didnt ban my zed im Pride: ggwp In short, more than enough reason to permaban you. You already had a 14day ban, so it was your last chance. Enjoy your laugh ;-)
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Excuse me for not reading every single line in every QQ thread of some toxic who got punished. In any case, there is plenty more. >im Pride: i wanna u meik einglish gret agen! Mocking teammates for their language skills. More than enough reason for a ban.
im Pride (EUNE)
: I haven't made a report threat, you have read the game chat, yes?
Yes, I have read your chatlog. Maybe you should do the same. >im Pride: report shaco
im Pride (EUNE)
: Bruv, have i said anything worth being punished? If I have i'd be fine with the ban, cuz I'd know it was deserved, y'feel me? {{champion:238}}
>have i said anything worth being punished You have read my post before replying, yes? In case you didn't, here is the relevant section in repetition: #"You made a report threat" On a side note, youth slang does not impress anyone above the age of 12.
im Pride (EUNE)
: Unjustified ban.
No, the ban is not unjustified. You made a report threat, which is a punishable offense. And no, it doesn't matter if you meant that "ironic" or whatever excuse you try to come up with. Other people do not have to share your sense of humor.
ROBINLAS (EUNE)
: I need a rioter, please!
>Would a rioter be so kind as to help me with that? Why should they? Your router and modem are YOUR problem. You are responsible for making sure your equipment works and can uphold a stable connection. Riot will not lift your low priority queue punishment.
: Then report him! After that? maybe, JUST MAYBE! Teach him how to communicate properly, A good reflex can change the entire game. Communicate changes LIFESTYLE. {{champion:22}}
>Then report him! Report him fpr what exactly? He broke no rules. There is no fixed lane assignments in Blind Pick, nor is there a requirement to play Meta in Blind Pick. That's why its called "BLIND" Pick...you never know what you get. You can report him of course, meaning, you can press the report button, but nothing will happen...the report will be discarded by the system as fake. >Communicate changes LIFESTYLE. Knowing the rules prevents useless reports.
rekkie85 (EUW)
: Not honoring the lobby calls
>is it lately a thing that people just ignore what is called in the lobby of blind pick. I let you in on a little secret my friend: #CALLING THINGS IN THE LOBBY NEVER WAS A THING BECAUSE THERE IS NO RULE ANYWHERE THAT SAID IT IS. The fact that some people uphold the fantasy that it is otherwise, doesn't change that fact. Have a nice day.
Failman3253 (EUNE)
: No. Simply no. I have at least 10 games that I have brought back from seemingly "unwinnable" state. Most of the time its all a matter of 1 blitzcrank hook, 1 enemy mistake or 1 lucky play. However they need to have the time to make the mistake. For example, one game that sticks out in my mind is a game where all 3 of our inhibs were dead, I hook someone, forcing a team fight, ends up in them getting ACE-d, hard push mid, win the game. My team made several surrender requests, luckily I was in duo queue so we did not let them surrender.
>luckily I was in duo queue so we did not let them surrender. So you used a system that is undemocratic and thus dysfunctional, to force 3 other people, who did no longer want to play, to continue to do so. Yes, that's something to be proud of...not.
Failman3253 (EUNE)
: Players below Plat should not be able to surrender a RANKED match.
And players on Plat are supposedly special because...?
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BAA8mElR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-10T20:43:18.648+0000) > > Judging by the fact that tanks profit more from the rune changes than any other class, get ready for some loooong games. Care to lose a moment or two to explain why, or sometimes the "truth" must be taken this way, without anything to support it?
>without anything to support it? Because this isn't a courtroom, noone is under oath or otherwise legally obligated to provide proof, especially not when writing a 6-liner response. If you want to challenge my statements, and discuss the reasons why I belive that tanks will profit more from the changes than any other class, you can do so of course, and I will be happy to provide my reasoning. Maybe such should be done in another post, to not go offtopic, but I leave that decision to you.
: so in short they must buy RP compulsory ? than they should remove the ''free'' game tag.
>than they should remove the ''free'' game tag. Show me a player who never invested a cent in the game and is still able to play competitively.
Kaluchii (EUW)
: Yes you're right but what you say is very negative. every champion has his pros and cons. Ezreal is just a perfect burst adc and yea tanks will be a counter. thats why getting ur spike earlier will help you out a lot. well see where the meta goes for now im happy and this shit is broken but idc =]
>but what you say is very negative So? Do you see me care? It's the truth. Sometimes the truth doesn't sound super-positive.
Kaluchii (EUW)
: Kleptomancy on Ezreal is Insane lol
Yeah, so he gets his powerspike early. Aaaaand then has about 10 minutes to get a decisive advantage in the game, before the enemy Hypercarry goes online, and Ezrael starts falling apart, because he simply cannot compete with the team-fight damage of Kog/Trist. Judging by the fact that tanks profit more from the rune changes than any other class, get ready for some loooong games.
: the new accounts earn more BE than the old accounts. What it does hurt is just, the average player that is grinding his ass out.
The average player is wealthy enough to pay 10$ for a meal at McDonalds without even thinking about it. You're really gonna tell me, that this average player cannot afford to use the same money on a bit of RP? Hell, knowing what's in McDoofus foodstuff, it might even be beneficial to ones health to do so :D
: So how do I actually get champions now(besides paying your employees' salaries)?
On the plus side, this makes it even more painful for toxic clownfaces when they lose their account ;-)
FQ Cappy (EUNE)
: ban permanenet :(
>hello, im sorry about my last behaviour my brother was playing on my account I am glad that this is your "defense". Wanna know why? Because account sharing is even worse than flaming, and punished by an INSTANT PERMABAN. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Ìxeas (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=W0E6ulre,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-11-08T16:31:52.650+0000) > > Explain it to me in terms my simple mind can fathom: > > What are the legal consequences of suicide supposed to be exactly? Basically country you live in "owns you", so killing yourself isn't legal. I know it doesn't make sense but that's an actual thing.
>but that's an actual thing. Erm...no, it isn't, at least not where I live. Our constitution specifically states that the freedom of the individual and the right to freedom are untouchable foundations of our society, and that no human being under any circumstances, can be "owned" by any person, company or institution, and yes, this specifically includes state institutions. Also, I am pretty sure, even if any such law existed, it would be null and void in any member state of the European Union, as it would be in direct violation of the [_**European Convention of Human Rights, Article 4.**_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights#Article_4_.E2.80.93_servitude)
Leptyx (EUW)
: ***
I want to play against a good Teemo, but I do not indulge people who bring rank into a discussion and then accuse others of a lack of knowledge based on zero arguments. You can disagree with me, no problem, as long as you keep the tone civilized. Any and all normal conversation was thrown out of the window with that one sentence. Accept this, and refrain from such statements in your next discussion.
: Until a certain year, suicide was punishable by death in the UK
In Arizona you can get a 25year prison sentence for cutting down a cactus. Yes, that law still exists.
Ìxeas (EUW)
: Well suicide isn't legal in most countries..
Explain it to me in terms my simple mind can fathom: What are the legal consequences of suicide supposed to be exactly?
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=0003000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-08T15:53:40.851+0000) > > What you write is true of course, but not th etopic of conversation. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
The topic of conversation was going more in the direction of wheter or not Riot is legally allowed to do what they are doing, and not so much how the players feel about it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=00030000000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-08T15:29:44.121+0000) > > **Wrong.** > The fact of the matter is, that those people PAID FOR A SERVICE, which is completely different from BUYING something. if you have to cut my sentence is half in order to make sense, then it is not really useful to continue talking ... I wrote : "but the fact of the matter is that those people BOUGHT something **(or the priviledge of using it) and now it is GONE.**" and you ignored the bolded part, just to make your "argument" "work" ... > When you pay for a service, that is not the case. The provider of the service is legally required to render his services as agreed in the TERMS OF SERVICE or TERMS OF USE. If said terms include the possibility that the conditions of the service, may be subject to change in the future, then that is perfectly acceptable.. > > No, I would say _"check the contract you have with the power company"_. > > If said contract says "We can take away power any time you want", and you agreed to subscribing anyway, that's your problem. And I will say again that Riot has every right to ban, destroy or even discontinue it's services alltogether, but that still doesn't make it GOOD MARKETING. suuuuuuure, it is "legal" ... it is also legal to declare bunkruptcy and fly with the rest of your money to a tax haven, but it is not GOOD MARKETING, especially if you are planning to make another game in the future, as Riot is. **Look, dude, I have been in many courtrooms and I will tell you this simple thing : If a company or a person is forced to start explaining his marketing decisions based on the fine prints of the signed contracts, then the whole thing is down the drain.** Sure, you can make the law and the words dance for you, but **being a good businessman**, a person or a company that people would be happy to be clients of, is so much more than that. I am aware that many of you do not understand that concept ... I cannot do anything more about that, than suggest you people try your hand at creating a business and trying to pull contracts and clauses to your clients and see what really happens ... Riot will get away with it because the playerbase has proven, and still does right now, that is, in its majority, composed of gullible people that will dance around with joy for any tidbit that they might throw their way. Good for them ... but that doesn't mean that the rest of us will not complain about it :p
>And I will say again that Riot has every right to ban, destroy or even discontinue it's services alltogether, but that still doesn't make it GOOD MARKETING. Okay, let's stop for a second and talk about marketing. **They are giving away free stuff, even though they don't have to, as a compensation for keeping your game updated with fresh ideas, free of charge.** Explain to me, logically, how this is bad marketing. >Look, dude, I have been in many courtrooms I don't know what country your legal experience is based on, but I assume its from a country with some form of common law (UK, USA, etc.) system, where people can basically sue each other for any reason they can dream into existence, and lawsuits are often used as a form of public relation stunt. I come from a country that uses a codex-law (aka. the form of law that is based on the 20th, instead of 16th century thinking). Meaning, our legal system tells you what you can sue for and what the courts will refuse out of hand laughing. "Sueing for the sake of public pressure" doesn't work here. >its majority, composed of gullible people Yes, a gullible bunch we are, aren't we...dancing around singing with joy because we get free stuff as compensation for getting a better game. What an evil plan of three-dimensional-strip-poker-chess Riot is playing with our poor little gullible minds. https://i.imgur.com/U0F0vK4.jpg
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=00030000000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-08T15:29:44.121+0000) > > **Wrong.** > The fact of the matter is, that those people PAID FOR A SERVICE, which is completely different from BUYING something. > > "Buying" entails a change of ownership of a commodity. > > When you pay for a service, that is not the case. The provider of the service is legally required to render his services as agreed in the TERMS OF SERVICE or TERMS OF USE. If said terms include the possibility that the conditions of the service, may be subject to change in the future, then that is perfectly acceptable.. True. People paid for a Service on an Account ... That Sevice changed though, to a different one, and it's within the Client's rights to not like it. That's why Riot tried to compensate for it. That doesn't mean that those compensations were the best option they could choose, or that they moved with their client's interests at heart or even the best compromise they could choose from.
What you write is true of course, but not th etopic of conversation.
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2017-11-08T14:24:34.140+0000) > > I am a client of the public Transport company in my home town. > That doesn't mean they owe me anything. If they discontinue service to your town and now your public pre-paid ticket card is NULL, then they do owe you at least an apology. Riot on the other hand, via the words of Cactupous, admitted that they did all this for money, savvy .?. > I have a service contract with them (by the yearly ticket price I pay), which means that I agree to their _Terms Of Use_...same as you agreed to the _Terms Of Use_ of Riots online gaming service. > > As long as the Transport company upholds their obligations toward me, as outlined in said Terms of use, they are living up to their half of the agreement. Yeah, as long as they agree to uphold their obligations ... if they switch the transport you are using, let us say a bus, and they buy some derelict busses from my country that were built in 1960, would they be still be providing transportation .?. Yes. Would they still be "upholding their obligation" .?. Yes. But you would have been FURIOUS, because you paid the price for a good transportation on a good bus and they provide you, for the same old price, a moving gas-leaking iron coffin on four wheels. Oh, how happy you'd be when their lawyers came with a smug attitute like yours and smiled at you condenscedingly tell you "hey, you are getting where we promished to take you, eh.?." >What they HAVE to do, is act according to the laws of the countries they operate in (which they do). > Anything above that, is voluntary on their part. Aye ... good marketing is voluntary and bad marketing is something that the clients have any right to complain about. The ability to complain, IS IN THE LAWS, look it up. > Exactly what it says. > Riot has ownership of all the accounts, and all data associated with them. > If you do not believe that, I suggest you read the Terms Of Use (to which you agreed btw.) I have read them extensively, worry not ... now if you had read the rest of my sentence you'd know that my question was a figure of speech called a "rhetorical question" > I am happy with this arrangement. > If you are not, I suggest you do what customers normally do in such a case, and take your business elsewhere. If you think some random complaints of 1 guy on the internet outweigh the positive opinion of 100+ Million people, I'm afraid you are wrong. And this is why soon you will not be happy with the "arrangements" and this is why companies get away with things like that ... because the majority is made by people like you who **are happy to be scammed.** P.T. Barnum knew that truth, why wouldn't Riot .?. :p
>If they discontinue service to your town and now your public pre-paid ticket card is NULL, then they do owe you at least an apology. Erm...no, they don't, unless it says so somewhere in the law or the service agreement. You seem to have a misunderstanding of the term _"to own someone something"_. There is what you FEEL or THINK you are owed. And then there is what you are ACTUALLY owed as required by law. The second one is the one that matters legally. >But you would have been FURIOUS Probably, yes. But that fury on its own would get me exactly nowhere. If a very large majority of people would agree with me, to the point where the negative public relations would endanger future economic endeavors of the company, then yes, something about their dealings might change. If that is not the case, as with your complaints here, then I can be furious as much as I want, no one will care. >The ability to complain, IS IN THE LAWS, look it up. **One:** Its _"in the law"_. Singular. Look it up. **Two:** Of course it is. Its called "Right to Free Speech". However, what isn't in the law in any country I know, is a requirement for someone else to listen to what you say. There are customer protection laws in some countries, but afaik, none of them entitles customers of a service provider to services not agreed upon in the ToS. >was a figure of speech called a "rhetorical question" I know. Rule number one on how to deal with rethorical questions: Answer them. That way, you deny whatever effect the one asking the question intended by asking them. >And this is why soon you will not be happy with the "arrangements" If that is the case, I simply say this game good bye, and take my money somewhere else. >because the majority is made by people like you who are happy to be scammed. Again, explain to us, logically, who Riot giving you free stuff is "scamming". So far, you failed to do so. >P.T. Barnum knew that truth, why wouldn't Riot .?. :p P.T. Barnum was also the man saying: _"There is no such thing as bad publicity...there is only publicity."_ So by the logic of the man you seem to agree with, you are, right now, helping out Riot ;-)
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2017-11-08T14:31:16.636+0000) > > "The least they could do" would be to just change the system, give people nothing at all, and tell everyone who complains to go suck a lemon, because surprise surprise they are not legally required to give us free stuff at all. > Its amazing how entitled people feel these days. entitled to what .?. Their own money .?. Their own time .?. you can sprout legalities as much as you like, I am game for it, but the fact of the matter is that those people BOUGHT something (or the priviledge of using it) and now it is GONE. I paid for the priviledge of getting a power line to my house and I am using it ... I do not OWN the cable nor the wooden pole, nor the capacitors, but I paid for them and if the power company comes along and takes them away (along with the usage of electricity) I'd say "this sucks" and you'd say "hurraaaay for the power company". is that entitlement .?. To some decency, maybe.
>but the fact of the matter is that those people BOUGHT something **Wrong.** The fact of the matter is, that those people PAID FOR A SERVICE, which is completely different from BUYING something. "Buying" entails a change of ownership of a commodity. When you pay for a service, that is not the case. The provider of the service is legally required to render his services as agreed in the TERMS OF SERVICE or TERMS OF USE. If said terms include the possibility that the conditions of the service, may be subject to change in the future, then that is perfectly acceptable.. >and if the power company comes along and takes them away (along with the usage of electricity) I'd say "this sucks" and you'd say "hurraaaay for the power company". No, I would say _"check the contract you have with the power company"_. If said contract says "We can take away power any time you want", and you agreed to subscribing anyway, that's your problem.
: My account is perma banned
>Could you please re-open my account? No. >I am reformed. Oh rly? Tell us, why didn't you reform after your 2 consecutive chat bans and your 14 day suspension? On a completely unrelated subject, why should we believe you are reformed now?
: > [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-08T11:44:32.475+0000) > > So you are being scammed because you received mystery skins for free? Uh, interesting. the least they could do was give those people a choice on the skins they wanted, no a lottery ticket, for crying out loud.
"The least they could do" would be to just change the system, give people nothing at all, and tell everyone who complains to go suck a lemon, because surprise surprise they are not legally required to give us free stuff at all. Its amazing how entitled people feel these days.
: > [{quoted}](name=Martensitic,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=i9s8zQlp,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-11-08T11:52:09.757+0000) > > **Riot doesn't owe you anything.** > **Riot owns your account and everything on it.** > > They have the right to change whatever they want in this game, for whatever reason, at any time, and they need neither your agreement nor your approval. In fact, they are not even required to notify you. > > They could have deleted your runepages, without so much as blinking about it. > > So take what you are offered, say "thank you", and stop complaining. are you people for real .?. We are RIOTS CLIENTS !!! helloooooo ... yes, they own the place, but even if we never spent one euro on their game, we are still their CLIENTS and they need to behave accordingly. what is up with all that "Riots owns your account" stuff .?. My favorite restaurant's owner, OWNS the restaurant, but doesn't make me eat my order in a trough along with the horses "just because he owns the place". No, he puts it on a plate and puts the plate on a table and gives me a knife and a fork, thank you very much, even if he OWNS THOSE TOO. what is wrong with you people .?. This is a consumer society and we are the consumers ! The client isn't always right, but by God he needs to be treated with some respect.
>We are RIOTS CLIENTS !!! I am a client of the public Transport company in my home town. That doesn't mean they owe me anything. I have a service contract with them (by the yearly ticket price I pay), which means that I agree to their _Terms Of Use_...same as you agreed to the _Terms Of Use_ of Riots online gaming service. As long as the Transport company upholds their obligations toward me, as outlined in said Terms of use, they are living up to their half of the agreement. And I cannot stress the _"as outlined in said Terms of use"_ part enough. **They don't have to do anything that is not in those ToU, no matter what I think they should be doing. ** >but even if we never spent one euro on their game, we are still their CLIENTS and they need to behave accordingly. No, they do not. What they HAVE to do, is act according to the laws of the countries they operate in (which they do). Anything above that, is voluntary on their part. >what is up with all that "Riots owns your account" stuff .?. Exactly what it says. Riot has ownership of all the accounts, and all data associated with them. If you do not believe that, I suggest you read the Terms Of Use (to which you agreed btw.) >This is a consumer society and we are the consumers ! We happen to have no problem with the arrangements. As far as I am concerned, I get regular, free updates to the game I love and play, without paying anything unless I want to. On top of that, I get free stuff when they make big changes. I am happy with this arrangement. If you are not, I suggest you do what customers normally do in such a case, and take your business elsewhere. If you think some random complaints of 1 guy on the internet outweigh the positive opinion of 100+ Million people, I'm afraid you are wrong.
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: > Its not about Winning the Lane matchup. Its about not screwing it up. That's true but the reason I asked that question is because you were getting off topic :p OP asked about the lane phase and you talked about midgame-lategame compos, of course if Garen gets countered early he's likely to be more useful later but this post is about lane phase only > Then Garen goes into full defense build, still survives and waveclears without a problem (Teemos turret harass sucks because the poison agros the turret). That's where you lack knowledge about this matchup. Sorry for being harsh but Garen does not survive the pokes of Teemo (with VStaff) on the long run. He may dive in a wave to clear it quickly, but he can't always do that on the long run. Secondly, Teemo **can** freely autoattack melee champs trying to farm the ranged minions, and most importantly, roaming is usually a better option than harassing Garen under turret, either shroom/gank the midlane, screw enemy jungle, or get enough vision to continue harassing Garen freely without the risk of getting ganked Teemo is probably not worth banning due to its pickrate, but the OP is asking which champs can turn his laning phase into a nightmare, you can't exclude Teemo from the list
>That's where you lack knowledge about this matchup. After this sentence, spare me further comments and consider the discussion over. Good day to you.
: I feel betrayed by RIOT
**Riot doesn't owe you anything.** **Riot owns your account and everything on it.** They have the right to change whatever they want in this game, for whatever reason, at any time, and they need neither your agreement nor your approval. In fact, they are not even required to notify you. They could have deleted your runepages, without so much as blinking about it. So take what you are offered, say "thank you", and stop complaining.
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