: Hey there ! Yes they do give vision score (always), but as the wikia said : > A Hawkshot (Ashe's E) that reveals a full Baron attempt will give much more than a Heightened Senses (Quinn's W) that reveals nothing (which will still give some score). To sum up, everything that grants vision will increase your vision score (even the jungle plants and abilities). But depending on what they reveal, the vision score points they grant will vary quite a lot.
thanks :D do you know if there is somewhere i can look up the best spots to ward? the wiki doesn't seem to say that bit
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=j5l3aK7O,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-18T08:09:17.034+0000) > > oh sorry, i said it wrong, i meant that SINCE they should redo them we may have to wait until they do so, like a vgu or an update like ashe got. Usually they don't call a voice actor in just for a line or two. > she needs a lot of work...mostly because she sounds like a 40 year old midget with a smoking problem > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Doesn't have to be VGU, Annie is pretty modern in terms of mesh, rig and animations. Many champions receied a voice update as a standalone thing (Ashe, Lee Sin).
yes but every time they recorded more than one line. since annie is old they are probably waiting to see if there is a need of a vgu or some sort of lore update to call in her voice actress to do the lines.
: Another day, another leak. But Riot, seriously?
i still think they should have named the new band the "K / Y / S" (zed, kayn, yasuo, vayne) or the "AFK" (teemo, yuumi, nasus, veigar) {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: No... What he said is completely wrong lol. Vision score was made in a way so it can't be abused and it increases by putting useful wards rather than just spamming them (all supports would have at least infinite vision scores each game if that was the case). Abilities like Ashe's E also give vision score depending on what they reveal. Here is the general formula : VISION SCORE = (1 point per minute of ward lifetime provided) + (1 point per minute of ward lifetime denied). Basically speaking, it's about how much useful info you provide vs how much info you deny. The number of wards in itself or their nature doesn't matter. But there are multiple modifiers that affect that value (1 point per minute). Here are a few of them : * If a ward doesn't reveal anything interesting (epic monster or champion) over a long period, it's value per minute decreases * Useless wards like those near your minions, towers or in your base have a 100% negative penalty modifier. They basically give 0 vision score So to get your vision score to increase well, you'll need to place wards that reveal enemy champions or important objectives (like drake/baron). And deny enemy vision using {{item:2055}} and {{item:3364}} . B-1 : You need to kill the ward B-3 : You just need the takedown (kill or assist) so you need to hit it at least once. This [Link](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Vision_score) have all the accurate details and it's explains it in a simple way. Try to check it and if you still have some questions, don't hesitate to ask ;)
quick question, do abilities like maokai's sapling, teemo's shroom and shaco's box add to your vision score? i'm trying to improve as a jungler but i can't get my vision score high enough
WolfX10 (EUNE)
: I am ok with them redoing them
oh sorry, i said it wrong, i meant that SINCE they should redo them we may have to wait until they do so, like a vgu or an update like ashe got. Usually they don't call a voice actor in just for a line or two. she needs a lot of work...mostly because she sounds like a 40 year old midget with a smoking problem {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: In my country the age of consent is 16 {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} But when we're on the internet etc, the universal legal age is still 18, so no matter where OP is from, it's still paedophilia and pretty damn creepy (Let's not ignore the zoophilia/bestiality)
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: True But the body doesn't really age And she still looks like a small kid (A small kid with a crazy galaxy hair) So if OP is saying that Zoe looks hot, they're referring to the body, which is still a kid's body Also i've gotten new information about Qiyana not being legal. So even though Zoe is thousands of years old(doesn't make it any less creepy), there's still Qiyana who's around 14-16
joke's one THEM! i'm italian, 15 up is legal here! PRAISE THE CLAPPING BOOTY CHEEKS {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: XD Blackwatch Moira, scientist Moira and glam Moira are the good stuff Warlock and classic Ashe are hot af too From what i remember zoe was a kid and the apect of targon took control of her. So the body is still in the form of a kid
yeah but that was like a thousand years ago
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Yeah but the thing is, from what i remember (correct me if i'm wrong) The body of Zoe, is a child's body Sure the aspect of targon is hella old, but the body is still a child's body And if OP says that Zoe looks hot, then they are referring to the looks aka. the body of Zoe, a child's body So it's still a pretty big yikes I personally like Taliyah and Neeko (Moira and Ashe from overwatch are my ultimate waifus tho) {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
i knew i couldn't be the only one fining Mommy Moira hot. also, i don't remember zoe's body being a kid, need to look into it (i might need to delete a folder...)
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Yeah..... technically.....but it's still a kid's body.... so.... that really isn't convincing and says quite a lot about OP {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
i don't think the body matters, otherwise someone like her https://www.instagram.com/tinytexie/ would be illegal (she is 28 XD) anyway, i don't really care, i'm more into {{champion:78}} {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: So let's just ignore that male champs are getting prestige skins too And you think Yuumi (A CAT) or Zoe (a literal child) are hot? That's a big **YIKES** {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
technically zoe is legal....
: Why is every new champ a female?
WolfX10 (EUNE)
: This may be a bit greedy but I wish RIOT would make one change to the new Annie-versary skin
considering how old annie's voicelines are, they would need to redo everything
: I don`t think he necessarily needs a nerf. Garen has been an useless top laner for too long. Also, that change on his E was made so he can use Conqueror more effectively. The thing is he benefits the most from Conqueror when he uses his E. And that ability doesn`t hit that hard anyway considering some minions will be nearby. Yeah, if you are "isolated" and he uses E on you he will deal 33% more damage i think but overall he isn`t a problem and he can be countered easily. It`s just a matter of perspective. If you ask a Riven player if Garen is overtuned in low elo he will say that he is. But if you ask a higher elo Riven player he will say that he isn`t overtuned at all. Also, you have an entire pool of champions that can deal with him incredibly easy like Darius (his main counter, that bleed damage will render his passive useless even after you stop fighting him, you can pull him back when he tries to escape with your E. also slow him with W.), Gnar (if you ask me he is the most fun to play against Garen and Darius. They simply can`t touch you if you are smart.), Teemo (he is the bane of any melee champion), Tryndamere is also a viable option with all the sustain he has and his ultimate. Garen isn`t overtuned, it`s just people that can`t manage him properly. Vayne, Riven, Draven, Leona, Sona, Tryndamere, Darius, Jhin, Ryze, Thresh, Rengar, Talon for example are all champions that have been in strong positions for ages. Maybe with the exception of Ryze considering the amount of re-works he got and Riot still haven`t figured a way of balancing him properly. Garen is no different. You can`t expect to play Twisted Fate into a Zed and win the game. It`s the same with Garen. Good luck!
look, the only thing they overtuned was his synergy with conqueror. something as minor as making his E gater stacks every 3 spins wouldbe nice. he has a shield, has a more consistent ult and, for what i saw so far, isn't that badly balanced. the only problem is conqueror.
: Then use something else than conqueror like aftershock. In this game i lost lane vs Garen, i dont play top much and i dont know the matchups, but if you look Garen was not hard to deal with even after losing the lane https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4218838263/201713713?tab=overview
aftershock...on rumble?
: I'm sorry but if you lose to garen as Teemo, that's entirely a player problem, not a game problem. Teemo is a massive counter to Garen, to a point you can render him entirely useless during the laning phase. You get E at level 1, stay away from garen and farm until get you level 2, get Q. If garen is in range, press Q and walk away. Rinse and repeat, you can easily keep him away from minions like this and there's nothing he can do against you. New garen is still horribly countered by a lot of ranged champions to a point he's useless and can't even farm. New garen however can easily delete players who don't respect him. Something he couldn't do before, which is a good thing. A lot of champions you HAVE to respect their skills or you will die. Tryndamere, Teemo, Vayne, Kayle, Karma, Irelia, Natuilus, Jinx, Caitlyn, Kled, Bard, Shaco, Leona, Talon, Jhin, Blitzcrank etc you get the idea. All of them you have to respect their abilities or you will die. Up until now you could pretty much ignore Garens abilities and kill him away.
again, i don't use teemo, i was using rumble and i picked before him
Muuaahh (EUNE)
: Shaco needed a buff in every single possible way.
yeah but there are buffs and stupid ideas
: Well in this game https://legends.ai/euw/summoner/allchatignored/match/4226776236 i was able to kill Garen as Jinx solo after i use flash in the last teamfight, he didnt have ult but i also didnt have ult. He used his ult on Yi, then used his passive to heal up and then i engaged him
you realize jinx has an incredible range advantage, right? i'm talking about fighting him in toplane with the same range, it's unfair to charge full conqueror with ONE ability when other champions need 3 abilities plus 2 auto attacks
itaiIKi (EUNE)
: Ya. He is tanky af and now thanks to the E buff he can destory everyone on toplane
charging conqueror in 3 seconds at level 2 is insane
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Nik23dAG,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-13T10:05:09.518+0000) > > yeah but i picked first in that match :\ also, i can't use teemo (despite being teemo 5) i have no idea how to use him XD build liandry, sorc shoes, lichbane and nashor and choose whatever you want for the rest^^ just keep poking him with blind, level blind first, toxic second and speedboost third than blind again than toxic lvl 6 shrooms etc level your W only after you cant level the rest anymore, and use shrooms to block off paths they can use to flank you^^
that's the problem, i couldn't do it. new garen charges conqueror in 2-3 seconds AT LEVEL 2! this is incredibly unfair. i couldn't farm because he would just silence me and then spin to activate conqueror and kill me. i'll try teemo more but i just don't like him that much :\
Zetsúme (EUW)
: he's already set for a nerf next patch bro
: Counter him with Teemo for example. Or trynda, or Gnar, Yorick, Darius.. People complain that garen is too strong now, we've had champions that are THAT strong for a long time and the response for those is "well just play their counters." It's likely gonna be the same deal here.
yeah but i picked first in that match :\ also, i can't use teemo (despite being teemo 5) i have no idea how to use him XD
SirLevi (EUW)
: Well, picking rumble into garen is suicide and that makes you silly, and if you have chosen rumble and they pick garen, DODGEEEEE
oh, i explained it wrong, I picked first so technically HE countere picked me :( also, i NEVER dodge. not even if i get filled adc (i hate adc)
xZabaksx (EUW)
: No, should (one spin adds 2x stacks now)
yep, level 2 garen WITH BOOTS almost one shot me
SirLevi (EUW)
: Just play Darius in to Garen and you are fine
and what if i pick rumble into garen?
iSuzuken (EUW)
: is this r/wooosh or ? Im kinda confused
no it was a typo, i meant "shouldn't"
: shouldnt?
yeah sorry, mean't shouldn't
Rioter Comments
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Yeah The launcher is new because riot is preparing for their new game, which will share the launcher with league. Just like blizzard app for example
got it, so this is just the first step.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Yup, that's the new client They've been shipping i out for like the past month People will randomly get it, and soon everyone will have it
but the client is the same :\ only the launcher is different...
Rioter Comments
: Hackers
sometimes league crashes then it rolls back to a previous version and reinstalls all the data from scratch. try to run this https://support.riotgames.com/hc/it/articles/224826367-Risoluzione-problemi-automatizzata-strumento-di-riparazione-Hextech don't worry, it's legit from the support page
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=R8MpTe9l,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T13:24:27.052+0000) > > i'd like to play with someone i know and i only have (at best) a team of 4 :( you will be surprised you will find nice chill people out there that you can enjoy play on voice with, sure you will also find some degenerates, but if you filter them abit you can find nice people.
i still need time to find them, now that clash kinda worked i can begin to find someone XD
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=R8MpTe9l,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-07T10:50:17.539+0000) > > well, i don't really care about it as i don't have a team of 5 but if they manage to pull it off without screwing the servers i'd be happy XD its very easy to find a team if you want, on discord servers is the best, you can find a team in 5 min, just play a test game and keep search till you find some people you get along and have same attitude in the game and enjoy
i'd like to play with someone i know and i only have (at best) a team of 4 :(
: I hope they manage to full release it next year and not to the end of the year :/ Already 2 years since first try of release :(
well, i don't really care about it as i don't have a team of 5 but if they manage to pull it off without screwing the servers i'd be happy XD
: New one is coming soonTM. We shall see then I guess.
yeah but a new client means new bugs...
: Guess we got the answer to the age old question, "will it clash or crash?" ... Props to riot.
now if only we could have a stable client...
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duh7 (EUNE)
: I was poppy main be4 her rework now i only use her when i need to counter jg. U will get S+ on supp faster than in jg. In my opinion u dont need tiamat her q clear a lot without it so consider bulding {{item:3057}} and gank more bot line even babysit. Ur dmg and tankines is deadly more items u have. Still remember how she used to be uber top tank that can ank towwers for days.
maybe i won't rush it but i need titanic for extra damage on my autos, i'll build sheen first next game, thanks :)
Torkl (EUW)
: For an S, high farm seems to be the most crucial point. This clip helped me alot with jungling, begins with kiting techniques but also goes through stuff like awareness, wards and a few tricks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVUCpWpndKU Poppy is best utilized in 2v2 so gank alot and dont be afraid of counterganking. Especially if youre low elo its extremely important to gank ALOT, visit every lane atleast once before they hit 6 or prepare to get flamed and lose :D
i'll watch it, kiting is one thing i always screw up :\ thanks :D
Torkl (EUW)
: Do you want to get good or do you want an S just to level your champ??
well, i DO want to level her up but that's not my main purpose here because, after 2 more S (i got one with poppy support) i'll be poppy 7 so i won't have a use for an S rank anymore. What i really want is to get GOOD. If i understand how to get good with poppy i'll have the basics to become good with any other jungler (where to ward to get maximum map awareness, best pathing for similar champs etc...) so i can finally be confident enough to start ranking. Problem is, i can't seem to find what to improve and how to improve it :(
: Nah i mean that Poppy hard counters shen {{item:3070}} . Can't really help you with poppy jungle sorry for the confusion :(
: poppy mains (cries in shen {{champion:98}} {{item:3070}} )
you mean that they work the same in jungle? do you have any suggestions? :)
Rioter Comments
: now that would be a bit more fun and interesting. more versatility and will probably be a few new metas at that point. but it will probably have to go trough some balancing.
and we all know that "riot" and "balancing" can only exist in the same sentence if separated by the words "doesn't know a thing about"
: Ethernals
hopefully never
JustTits (EUNE)
: Make it so Jax can't autoattack while he uses his E
that would destroy him, they'd need to increase the stun duration or the damage of his dodge because if they just removed the autos he would become useless
Remmeh (EUW)
: Just got forced into leaverbuster and the que to games are not working.. Problems seem to be an ongoing issue.
wow...let's hope Eternal$ can fix this {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
3xample (EUW)
: I have absolutely 0 idea if this is connected, but we (party of 4) experienced something similar. Was in a party of 4, with an extra. Everyone in the game was complaining about lag. Morgana Qs were going through drake at 40ms. EVerything felt like it took 2 seconds to register. After like 20 minutes, everyone got disconnected and the game doesn't show up in my match history, but op.gg says the game is still going on. This happened literally 5 minutes ago. What is going on
yeah, we got that too. an incredible lag but with 40 to 50 ms which is impossible
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