Backstard (EUNE)
: Finally people starting to understand how Riot operates... Good customers = Getting decent teams = Ranked boosting = No punishments Bad customers = exclusively trolling teams = ello hell = forum censoring = random bans
i don't think they go so far as to alter the players you face/find but there is a serious chance they have a preference for the money bringers
FixxeS (EUW)
: the system works, it's just that you need to get reported several times in several different games to do anything. this is meant to penalize frequent flamers, not someone just having a bad day and happens to release stress on chat... I can tell you that I had one day that was super stressful, I flamed in all chat, I got report x9 that game (or at least they all said they were gonna report me) and I didn't got punished, in counter part, I had a friend that would say noob or worst things in pretty much every game and he got permabanned after like 4 months of being chat restricted pretty much all the time.
still waiting for the guy that told me to kill myself and for the one who wished my mother got cancer and died to be punished, they are still there.
: i dont even understand why riot isnt priotitizing the punishment system. maybe if they would fix that this entire community wouldnt be as toxic but they sadly prioritize other things like game modes, pro play and skins
becuase you don't make money by punishing players {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: How the %%%% get some players away with everything?
hey, maybe they have "riot friends" like our buddy NB3
m0rfis (EUNE)
: Dont missunderstand some of them will get banned but in time its not like you flame and you get banned the instant you do that it needs some time
let's be honest. that's just BS riot feeds you to keep you calm. they are proving themselves to be a shitty company with no moral standards as it took a public outrage to punihs a STREAMER. the general rule of thumb is: if you spend a lot of money regurarly then you'll get less severe punishments or even no punishments at all, you DON'T spend in this game? enjoy getting banned at the first offense.
: People who already have these skins always make a fuss when riot does that kind of stuff lol
yeah, it could be fixed tho. they could give those skins the "championship riven treatment" and add something to the originals, even a chroma just for those players, while releasing the regular skins for everyone to purchase/find
DarkG0d (EUNE)
: I have Judgment kayle its an amazing skin. and I do think it would be great if others as well be able to get it. I am against that kind of rarity so yeah +1 on your comment
yeah, it's not fair to the players who joined recently and releasing them like they did with championship riven (altering them a bit or adding to the "originals" so that tho older players have something better) would solve the problem of the various fusses XD
: 10 year aniversary idea ?
re-releasing locked skins like silver kayle/judgement kayle would also be a nice idea
: Supporting the Return of Iranians to league of legends
you realize that, if the US blocked any service to be accessed by iran, LEague is the LAST of their problems, right?
GitGudYasuo (EUNE)
: Iran/Syria
ok, now i'm picturing trump at a rave party mixing music....
: > he wasn't coordinating I find this kinda funny. In close to every ranked game i ever played i had someone who didnt communicate. If you pick vlad, you force the strategy of "stall, wait for lategame" on your team - and i am yet to see a vlad asking wether this is fine for the rest of the team or not. So why is one strategy - without communication - bannable and another isnt?
well, one thing is to play your role without saying anything. say you go support blitz and just do your thing. another is to lock a champion support and, without saying anything to your adc, leave him alone and go mid.
: Why should he stay banned? He has a 48% winrate in over 400 games with teemo, in masterelo. So while his strat may not be OP, it seems definitly viable. If idiots like NB3 wouldnt start flaming and afking, his teemo-winrate might even be above 50%.
it's not really about winrate, he may have won with that strategy but you can't force it on your team without saying a word. he wasn't coordinating which led to the childish behaviour we saw from NB and his pals. While NB should get ID BANNED, Nubrac should also be punished (maybe just 1 week instead of 2) for forcing a strategy on his team. And let's be honest, how would YOU feel if a guy came out in champ select with the dreaded "DON'T WORRY GUYS I HAVE THIS AWESOME STRATEGY I'VE BEEN WORKING ON, TRUST ME!" that would instanly rise a couple of red flags, wouldn't it?
: NB3 should get a perma, that's clear. He is weakminded and it will take a long time for him to reform.
not only that, his behaviour is terrible for someone that has to show this game to hundreds if not thousands of people. most new players wartch streamers before playing the game, if you are that toxic you are going to either scare away new players or make them as toxic as he is because, essentially, he is proving that flaming goes unpunished. Tyler1 was ID banned for this reason, Nightblue3 should be ID banned too
: Oh yes. I remember the first day of the new mordekaiser. I picked 6 or 7 times my character before a match finally started. I even was able to type "Hi again!" into chat since I saw them again and again. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
yeah, isn't this comunity great? {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} which reminds me, i can finally try out mordekaiser XD
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JjiKMze5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-21T12:02:19.423+0000) > >maybe save your level up capsules and open them a couple of days after she is release Don't. I got Yuumi in a capsule the week she was released. Didn't upgrade or enchant it for a week, and when her price dropped to 6300, the champion shard had turned into a champion permanent and I could unlock her for free. Dunno if that was a bug or if that's just how it works...
i meant, save you capsules so you can find the shard, what you do with it afterewards is up to you
: She cannot be banned from blind pick. Correct me, but I do not see anywhere the word which represents the game type he wants to play her as. Anyway, she will cost 7800 the first week. Then she will drop to 6300 after 1 week. Then she will be in the free rotation after one more week.
then he better be REALLY fast because for that first week, blind pick will be hell. even if you manage to get her, any other player who wanted her might dodge or troll the match
: Qiyana
for the first week she will be 7800, then she will drop to 6300. i suggest you wait to buy her, she will be permabanned in the first week anyway (same with all new champs and reworks). maybe save your level up capsules and open them a couple of days after she is release, so you may find her as a shard since those are calculated as if the champion was 6300 not 7800, meaning the price will be a lot lower
LastStrike1 (EUNE)
: Nightblue3 violating Riot Games' Terms of Use. Discussion.
yes, both nightbliue and riot zephyr should be banned (and fired in the case of zephyr) not only did nightblue violate the terms of use, he did so ON STREAM so he was PUBLICLY representing the playerbase in that instance. As for Zephyr, he cannot continue working for the company because he is now biased and can't be expected to look at any other ticket or report impartially.
Trixster (EUNE)
: NB3 received his own 14 days vacation
finally that bastard got what he deserves {{sticker:sg-kiko}} {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Don't unban Nubrac.
to be honest, i'm for a light punishment for nubrac (you can't force a strategy on your team without discussing it first) but also for an INCREDIBLY harsh punishment for NB and his pals. he is a public streamer, he shouldn't act like a little kid while, essentially, representing the game in front of thousands of people. Nightblue, his 2 afk friends and Riot Zephyr should all be banned/fired
: Chest with tokens
don't complain, they will remove the keys or reduce the amount you can get with tokens -_-
Tarolock (EUNE)
: now tinfoil hats to everyone and let me say one thing: what if its just staged and to boost publicity? i dont really care or even know those 2 ppl, but the video is spreading like wildfire and ppl are flooding the boards with it :D
i don't think so. if that was the case it would be even worse because it's bismirching Riot's name (they are essentially saying that Riot is ok with double standards and lets people off the hook if they pay them) to rake up some views and could lead to some serious legal actions from riot to both Nightblue and Nubrac.
: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! Ah, right, the "%%%%% Pudding" joke was a joke about the following character from Adult Swim's Robot Chicken show. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/robot-chicken-fanon-2/images/1/17/Angry_%%%%%_Pudding.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20171012165001 Did the image show? She is a nasty piece of work. You can guess her first name; a very prominent B-word. You can look up how nasty she can be to everyone! Haha _That's_ how bad I think Qiyanna is! ^^
: You should admit you're a crybaby who makes a post everyday saying the same thing over and over and you get 20 upvotes to stroke your epenis because it feels good
you are just mad MY posts get to 20 upvotes while yours don't {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: I would be happy if you shove your head where the light never shines.
nah man, that spot's occupied by Nightblue3
Neverm0re (EUW)
: Insufferable champion characters are fine if that insufferability is part of a personality, not the ENTIRE personality. Lux has an insufferable voice because she's so perky, but that at least gives her A Character of an irrepressible force for positivity and betterment. That's a personality with insufferable traits. Fiora is similarly arrogant, but she's earned the right to be arrogant by consistently prospering in a patriarchal Demacian society by her own merit. She's proven her high standards, there's no reason she shouldn't hold others to them. Camille is probably the ultimate example of an arrogant character done correctly; she's completely confident in her ability to beat you because she knows everything about you before she fights you, she's proven herself through almost a century of black-ops work to be the best at what she does, and even through all of that she still has regrets in her life, acknowledges she isn't perfect and harbours fears of failure, becoming outdated and losing what makes her human. Camille is, as far as I'm concerned, the single best written character in the game. {{champion:164}} {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Qiyana lacks that depth: her close-minded arrogance is her only personality trait and it's almost completely undeserved. She's got the emotional depth of a slice of bread and is easily the worst written character in a long time (worse than Kai'Sa which is saying a L O T).
and as i stated, Kai'Sa has survived HELL alone, what did Qiyana do? she crippled her sister and killed some miners https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/541/2016/01/Look-Out-We-Got-a-Badass.jpg
: Good to see we're on the same page with this. Hopefully riot does the right thing.
yeah, it's in their best interest because this mess is on its way to become a massive PR nightmare, heck, it could even start league's version of the "metoo" movement {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Cypherous (EUW)
: http://www.cypherous.co.uk/popcorn.gif
hey, don't hog them all yourself {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: I agree that nightblue was toxic in the video, and he shouldn't of typed threats in chat. But you have to look at this situation at a different perspective. Nubrac gets into a champ select lobby, locks in teemo support and doesn't properly inform his team about his intentions. Playing teemo support isn't bannable, but he should inform his team of his intentions before commiting them. He gets into summoners rift, runs to midlane and stays there all game, ignore his teammates telling him to go botlane. Leaving a sivir to 2v1 a disgusting lane. While sivir and teemo won't beat sona taric, he could of picked an ACTUAL support champion the help sivir. Instead he sat midlane, soaked up midlane xp and ignored his team. At this point of the match he is griefing his team. Hes played this for 50 games right, 50 games of roaming teemo support, 80% winrate or not, this will piss anyone off when loading into a ranked game. Espeshally players who work hard trying to climb grandmaster. This was done in grandmaster. If you was the irelia in that game, would you want a teemo soaking up xp on your lane? I wouldn't. Off meta strategies like these work better and are accepted more when teammates are informed of your intentions. Nubrac didn't inform his team in champion select. So they we're tilted by his actions. On nightblues case. He was toxic vocally on stream, calling people R*tards etc. That is on the twitch platform. But in game he was telling nubrac that if he didn't leave midlane, he would get his account banned. Pretty childish move. And he went afk with his team because of nubracs actions. Going 'next' is common in high elo games. But i agree he shouldn't be doing that on stream and he deserves a warning. Which most players on the boards will join the hate bandwagon and think nightblue should be banned, i am looking at the situation as if i was in the match. As for both players, nightblue should set a better example while on stream. Being toxic on stream influences other people to be toxic. For example when Tyler1 was toxic on stream and inting games back in season 6. Because of that behaviour most draven players are toxic in game because they are just wannabe tyler1 fanboys. For nubrac, it's cool that he is trying to change the meta, but people don't like change. A strat like roaming teemo support should be communicated properly in champ select before executing. The methods used for his punishment we're unfair. And i agree that he should be unbanned but issued a warning. Not everyone will agree with having a teemo roaming support, he shouldn't be playing it if his teammates disagree. Holy sh*t this comment is a long one.
and i couldn't agree more (and i'm even upvoting you) there is nothing worse than a "TRUST ME GUYS I FOUND THIS STRATEGY ONLINE AND IT WORKS!" in a champ select, i'm just making this post to put what little more pressure i can on Riot. this behaviour is unacceptable, they banned Tyler1 for misrepresenting the game and they should do the same with nightblue and Riot Zephyr. A strategy needs to be discussed WITH the team but he shouldn't have been banned for it, repremended, sure, but not banned because they lost only when NB and his pals went afk, if they talked to him instead of insta-flaming him, the game would have turned out differently. a little roaming, that's what they needed to do. have teemo go from mid to bot, keep the enemy guessing and shroome the enemy jungle for vision and damage
BadboyUG (EUW)
: Poll: Should Nightblue3 get punished?
wanted to let you know that i linked your post to mine as a reference https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/o5qB6BH0-to-all-summoners-part-two
: #FreeNubrac
wanted to let you know that i linked your post to mine as a reference https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/o5qB6BH0-to-all-summoners-part-two
WAVenom (EUNE)
: so is everyone gonna ignore this?
wanted to let you know that i linked your post to mine as a reference https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/o5qB6BH0-to-all-summoners-part-two
Sarokh JR (EUW)
: Where is the justice? (Nightblue and Riot games)
wanted to let you know that i linked your post to mine as a reference https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/o5qB6BH0-to-all-summoners-part-two
Rioter Comments
Snowbrand (EUW)
: I don't like what happened, but this mob train and self-rightouse attitude from the community is pretty bad too. It's like a big mob
my friend, this is bigger than a teemo being banned. this proves that Riot isn't a trustwrothy company as some players can just ignore the rules and have innocent people banned. What if the same thing happened to you? or your friends? what if you end up in a ranked and have a really bad day, you lose the game with 15+ deaths but one of your teammates knows a rioter and asks him to ban you for intentional feeding, even if you stood under your tower for the majority of the game? This whole debacle NEEDS to blow up, people NEED to see what this company is and Riot needs to do something to FIX this shit because, right now, they are simply saying "yeah, you bring us money and you don't have to follow rules, PLUS we ban whoever you don't like, as a bonus"
: perma banned might be a little excessive in my opinion, but needless to say, it was not okay what he did.
no, he should get the same treatment as tyler1. he is supposed to represent the playerbase and these actions and his dishonest relationship with a rioter are NOT something Riot should support. If Riot values their dignity, they'll ID ban Nightblue and fire Riot Zephyr
: After watching the video. Nightblues actions we're disgusting. He was toxic in game, afk, and threatening nubrac. The problem is, nubracs strategy is in high mmr games and his teammates are unaware of his intentions. I would of reported nubrac if he did that in my games.
yeah, that's the only thing i can blame him for. a strategy like that needs to be discussed first and, since you have teemo, you should have put on mobility boots and kept moving from top to bot, shrooming every corner and assisting the laners.
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-16T14:40:48.011+0000) > > also, do you start with corruption potion or something else? Start corrupting pot and take TP (Ignite makes no sense because you definitely don't want to fight). Play like a %%%%% and get some knowledge about wave management. You can harass melees when they walk up to CS by Q'ing + E. The Q's hitbox is deceptively big when it collides with minions. The shred and damage from Q max and the excecution damage on the E can ramp up quite nicely after Level 6. btw your E starts AOE exploding at 6; hitting a champ with the explosion also procs klepto, so you can CS and get Klepto simultaneously. I really like Manaflow band because I spam the crap out of my Q and E so I need the mana. When you make it to lvl 11 without falling behind it feels really amazing because you can start pressing buttons on people.
you mean you can DO STUFF at level 11? like being a player and not a super minion stuck under tower? XD seriously, i'll change my builds. thanks :)
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T14:16:37.451+0000) > > no conqueror? oh, so what should i use with her? i admit it, i'm no kayle expert but even using klepto i didn't do that much better (didn't feed like crazy tho) but i DID have a somewhat inexperienced trynda against me. > I was thinking maybe grasp? Klepto is pretty much the standard although you do see some Grasp or Fleet. I usually go with Klepto to get some Gold and additional pots going; Fleet for ranged matchups when I can't freely E. I only have experience with her in Silver/low Gold and normals were I can manipulate the wave as I wish and avoid fights. I poke from distance with Q + E (I max Q first) and freeze everytime I can and build Gunblade -> Nashors -> PD -> IE; Gunblade for the point and click for kiting and guaranteeing Q to land (without Q shred you don't deal damage) and PD for the tankiness. The True Damage waves can crit for double damage that's why I go crit later. That's at least my personal take on her in a not really competitive environment. It hard to see what high elo does because the champion doesn't really exist in higher elo. You can also go Lethal Tempo if you have no respect whatsoever for your opponent.
also, do you start with corruption potion or something else?
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T14:16:37.451+0000) > > no conqueror? oh, so what should i use with her? i admit it, i'm no kayle expert but even using klepto i didn't do that much better (didn't feed like crazy tho) but i DID have a somewhat inexperienced trynda against me. > I was thinking maybe grasp? Klepto is pretty much the standard although you do see some Grasp or Fleet. I usually go with Klepto to get some Gold and additional pots going; Fleet for ranged matchups when I can't freely E. I only have experience with her in Silver/low Gold and normals were I can manipulate the wave as I wish and avoid fights. I poke from distance with Q + E (I max Q first) and freeze everytime I can and build Gunblade -> Nashors -> PD -> IE; Gunblade for the point and click for kiting and guaranteeing Q to land (without Q shred you don't deal damage) and PD for the tankiness. The True Damage waves can crit for double damage that's why I go crit later. That's at least my personal take on her in a not really competitive environment. It hard to see what high elo does because the champion doesn't really exist in higher elo. You can also go Lethal Tempo if you have no respect whatsoever for your opponent.
taking notes and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt061BAbkQs still, i hope they change her a bit, seriously, her early is worse than naus' {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T09:59:19.015+0000) > > ok, i just woke up so walls of text are my enemy right now, but i get what you mean, she does 51 TD per auto (assuming that's how penetration is calculated, can't remember if they check % first then flat or vice versa) there is still one problem: Well the 51 damage are assuming you are a full tank. Assuming you're an ADC with QSS you only end up with ~27 damage less per wave and without any MR items at all you would probably take like 20 damage less per wave that hits you (don't quote me on that though, I didn't check the calc again). 20 damage is 20 damage but it's not like that's were Kayle's lategame power is focused. > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T09:59:19.015+0000) > > you build Kayle attack speed. and you give her conqueror. so you need to add another 8% of the post mitigation damage on top of that and remember, she is not alone. No you don't go Conqueror on Kayle ever. She can't reliably stack it (if you AA a champion 5 times at level 16 he probably has other things to worry about than your Conq proc) and it makes her early game even worse. Also, Conqueror doesn't work the way you describe it here. It doesn't ADD damage at all. It converts parts of the damage you already deal into true damage. Since Kayle already has true damage, this actually makes less sense on her because only the non-true damage benefits from Conqueror. > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T09:59:19.015+0000) > > all those calculations are for a 1v1 but kayle, especially lategame, has a team behind her and 51 (+8% of whatever she does) true damage in a teamfight, with your supports and tanks supplying CC and your midlaner getting in on the action,is a LOT. It's 50 damage only for the full tanks and less for everyone else. You can't just AOE hit the entire enemy team with Kayle without dying (remember that you can't AA during your ult). You're probably only hitting 1-2 people in a fight unless the enemy team is having a stroke or DDoS attack in the fight. I'm not saying that the extra damage is laughable; it's not. I'm only saying that I highly disagree that you can't balance her while keeping her true damage. All it gives her is tank shredding power and some extra damage. The latter part could easily be adjusted by changing her numbers. > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T09:59:19.015+0000) > > Hence why they cant buff her early game or her lategame becomes even more oppressing due to the aforementioned conqueror+teamfight. Which is not a thing. Conq on Kayle is not a thing. And it's not going to become a thing because there is no synergy with her kit. Actually, if they removed Kayle's true damage, Conq would make MORE sense than right now. > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T09:59:19.015+0000) > > changing her passive damage to magic, %HP or even mixed damage (like corki) would make her strong but not excessively overpowered (it depends on the amount of course) > you can still make it so she doesn't get "free damage" like making it like "at level 11 her waves deal X magic damage+1.5% (+1% per 100 AP) of the target max health as magic damage" > there, you have a decent carry that can still run conqueror for a boost in damage but can still be buffed early game so you aren't playing a game with 4 players and an unplugged toaster in toplane (dunno why i chose that one, again, just woke up, roll with it) So if you adjust her in a way so that she deals literally the same damage to pretty much everyone, then why even change her at all. Just to get rid of the evil true damage? If you did that change you might actually have a reason to run Conq on her versus tanks and shred them to pieces harder than you do on live right now. I'm really confused what you are suggesting here.
no conqueror? oh, so what should i use with her? i admit it, i'm no kayle expert but even using klepto i didn't do that much better (didn't feed like crazy tho) but i DID have a somewhat inexperienced trynda against me. I was thinking maybe grasp?
iaapvper (EUW)
: CORRUPT RIOT EMPLOYEE IS: **RIOT ZEPHYR** Player to be banned is: **NIGHTBLUE3**
fire Riot Zephyr and ban Nightblue3
BadboyUG (EUW)
: Poll: Should Nightblue3 get punished?
wheter or not teemo misbehaved, Riot can't keep a biased rioter in their team. You can't have strramers have "rioter friends" who can ban players they don't like. The rioter MUST be fired and Nightblue MUST be USER banned, like tyler1 was, because not only he is a %%%%, he is being a %%%% ON STREAM and with this he just publicly stated "HEY, i'm popular so all the rules YOU guys have to follow don't apply to ME because i have a rioter friend who can cover my ass any time i want".
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T23:08:31.010+0000) > > True damage is a problem because it's not reduced by anything. if they keep that part of her kit they will have no way of making her early stronger because then she will just obliterate everything at level 16. Here is the calculation I did some months ago: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/AMwMiBnl-kayle-already-has-a-weak-early-game-and-now-they-plan-on-nerfing-her-base-stats?comment=000200000000 I think you really overstimate how much the true damage on her waves is actually doing.
ok, i just woke up so walls of text are my enemy right now, but i get what you mean, she does 51 TD per auto (assuming that's how penetration is calculated, can't remember if they check % first then flat or vice versa) there is still one problem: you build Kayle attack speed. and you give her conqueror. so you need to add another 8% of the post mitigation damage on top of that and remember, she is not alone. all those calculations are for a 1v1 but kayle, especially lategame, has a team behind her and 51 (+8% of whatever she does) true damage in a teamfight, with your supports and tanks supplying CC and your midlaner getting in on the action,is a LOT. Hence why they cant buff her early game or her lategame becomes even more oppressing due to the aforementioned conqueror+teamfight. changing her passive damage to magic, %HP or even mixed damage (like corki) would make her strong but not excessively overpowered (it depends on the amount of course) you can still make it so she doesn't get "free damage" like making it like "at level 11 her waves deal X magic damage+1.5% (+1% per 100 AP) of the target max health as magic damage" there, you have a decent carry that can still run conqueror for a boost in damage but can still be buffed early game so you aren't playing a game with 4 players and an unplugged toaster in toplane (dunno why i chose that one, again, just woke up, roll with it)
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-15T22:22:31.902+0000) > > well, simply removing her true damage would enable riot to buff her early game (pre 11) maybe increasing her damage or heal or even just her stats, which they cannot do right now, otherwise she becomes unstoppable at level 16 (i played her day after rework, sucked before level 16, after that i was happly fighting 1v4) She got several nerfs to both her late and her early (!) game since then. > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-15T22:22:31.902+0000) > > also, there is conqueror for true damage so her having it for free is kinda stupid (especially if you can't get there). I don't know why people complain about the true damage part so much. When the rework was out I did a detailed calculation here on the Forums on how much her damage would change if the true damage part was removed. Turns out that for really tanky targets it took 2-3 AA more to kill them and for squishies it did not matter at all. The only really big part is versus damage reduction like Alistar ult or Baron buffed minions which she can shred with the true damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Bananenschnder,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T22:32:32.911+0000) > > She got several nerfs to both her late and her early (!) game since then. I know that she was nerfed, mine was an example about how, before the nerfs, she just had to wait level 16 and then became unstoppable. > > I don't know why people complain about the true damage part so much. When the rework was out I did a detailed calculation here on the Forums on how much her damage would change if the true damage part was removed. Turns out that for really tanky targets it took 2-3 AA more to kill them and for squishies it did not matter at all. > The only really big part is versus damage reduction like Alistar ult or Baron buffed minions which she can shred with the true damage. True damage is a problem because it's not reduced by anything. if they keep that part of her kit they will have no way of making her early stronger because then she will just obliterate everything at level 16. think of all the other sources of true damage: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/True_damage they are either ultimates, single target passives, single target spells or skillshots (in ahri's case) Kayle is the only one that has an AoE true damage passive with no CD and if they want to keep that...well, there is no balancing her. her power spike REQUIRES her to suck early, so...get rid of it. make her passive deal something else and buff her, that's all
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: Riot August said he's looking at some power curve changes but nothing is ready for testing yet.
again, they can't fix her AND keep her true damage, if they removed that and changed it to something else, they would have more room to change her pre-11 and make her viable.
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirLightHammer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dAh9rZU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-15T21:48:37.972+0000) > > I get it, she is supposed to be a hyper carry but, couldn't she be an hypercarry without true damage? Maybe giving her mixed damage at level 11 (removing level 16's buff altogether and giving her max passive at 11) and making the waves mixed or %HP magical. What would that accomplish? The problem is reaching level 11. Changing her power after that doesn't do much in my opinion.
well, simply removing her true damage would enable riot to buff her early game (pre 11) maybe increasing her damage or heal or even just her stats, which they cannot do right now, otherwise she becomes unstoppable at level 16 (i played her day after rework, sucked before level 16, after that i was happly fighting 1v4) also, there is conqueror for true damage so her having it for free is kinda stupid (especially if you can't get there).
: I want justice
i stand with nubrac on this one, he was n't griefing, the only thing i could criticize would be that he should have gone bot randomly, to keep the enemy guessing. I hope nightblue gets banned for this, never seen a piece of garbage like him
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: can't wait for any Rioter response on this.
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