: Voice chat is not working
that doesn't tell Riot much. are you and your premade very far away (like in EUW but one is in France and one in Germany)? do you have a bad connection? any other program running?
PepijndM (EUW)
: Not just the younger. As a student, in my experience, the people who're worst at accepting critic are the ones that are now 50 or older, or 14 year old angsty teens. The former see it as a hit to their 'authority' (bruh yer old thas all) while the 14 year olds don't need explanation. Somehow, we have come into a culture where offending someone is your fault instead of theirs... Guess the 'thick skin' passive has been lost. Honestly people who get offended should all remove themselves the western world. In fact, I'm afraid that in 10-20 years, everyone will get sick and tired, and we'll go around once more, hunting for any offended (LGBTQIASDF..., _independent_ women, black people, ...) to put them in camps. As always with humans, {action = - reaction} changes into {reaction = -2 * action}. Best hope is all this offended stuff de-escalates before the neo's get the chance to escalate.
yeah, it doesn't bode well at all. right now it's just movies and videogames that are forcibly changed to be "less offensive" but already they are starting to escalate (the whole grid girls thing) and that is honestly scary because, as you said, we will go from one extreme to the other.
: Were is voise chat for all ???
since not every player speaks the same language and most of the time your team WILL be toxic...no thanks, i don't care about voice chat for the entire team. also it's VOICE not VOISE {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: What do you mean? Oops my bad i mean a mastery lvl 7 token
Sandra, too, doesn't exist XD
: Get the hell out from here {{sticker:darius-angry}}
NEVER! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: Same thing happened before the instant feedback system started giving out permabans
sadly, i suspect there are no easy fixes for this situation. Either hyper long therm ones or really unfair ones. (we might as well wait for the wireless ball kicker)
Not xPeke (EUW)
: using caps or swear words isn't flaming... people really should stop throwing around the word flame so easily. it actually makes it lose its value. same for the word toxic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm i admit, it wasn't my best as i was in a hurry when i posted the original comment XD
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: If you call that flaming, then I have no surprise that you totally missed my point. What I was suggesting was using the impractical systems as secondary installations to deal with specific behaviour, while maintaining the current system as primary. This would give options. 1) The data from impractical systems then can be used to polish the current system in place, making it more effecient on catching trolls. 2) Possibility of people becoming more aware that they will be punished rather sooner, than later. Not indimidation, but education. 3) You only need 3 teams of 5(which is already a huge expense) to monitor the teams of hundreds. Key part here is using volunteers that are taken specifically for that task, while keeping the demands at reasonable level. (I'd start with 2 games a day or 10 in a working week per volunteer, then see from there based on optimum performers.) At 5 people, thats only 50 games out billions. It is literally nanoscule margin. However, it will allow RIOT Player Behaviour team and volunteers to gather the data what is and is not punishable and narrow down the edge on edge cases. That's when instant feedback system can act accordingly, as it now has enough data to judge the cases on it's own, over time reducing the need for human aspect. The results would not be even seen in the first 2 or 3 years, but then it would suddenly improve. Right now, there is just no data what is troll and what is bad game. What I consider bad game may be troll to someone who gets ticked far more easly. There are some certain rules already in place where instant feddback system can act, but those cases are so rear, they don't fall under grey area. And even then they mostly fly under the radar for a long time(The reddit top page trolls). --- TL;DR Use the less effecient systems to improve the more efrecient system by narrowing down on grey areas. Results will not be immidiate, but long term. I didn't flame you, I just got emotional by the fact that people totally overthink everything.
> The results would not be even seen in the first 2 or 3 years, but then it would suddenly improve. > and that's the problem right there. it would take too much time to be usable as 2 or 3 years just to gather information are too much. the best choice would be to bring the tribunal back (the tribunal was that thing that evaluated games, wasn't it?) so people would submit the games they think are "trolly" and the team would then decide.
: yes I'm all my premades can use it except me
oh...that's weird. i couldn't play today so i haven't tried it yet :\
: I can't use Voice !!!
you are in a premade, right?
: That would hurt adcs too much. Lethality is only flat pen, the last whisper items are % pen... transferring them to become lethality would hurt all ad champions too much as they wouldn’t have any itemisation against tanks. It’s not meant to make it not brought... on the contrary it’s meant to be rushed and is meant to be core... riot understands this... champions who should be using them get good effect out of them and should be allowed to use them... that includes some ranged champions. The thing was that champions who shouldn’t buy it was getting too much value out of it, by nerfing it and buffing the champions riot is happy as it’s main users they can push the champions who abused it out while still accommodating for its proper users
: But the ranged champions who use it are weaker now... that’s the point of the buffs that went along with it... the only ranged champion who got buffed was mf, the other ranged champions who have used it where straight up nerfed heavily... while the champions who are supposed to use it got less if not no nerf. So it is the right direction... a heavy nerf combined with buffs to who you want it to be used on means that champions who buy it who wherent buffed have been nerfed heavily while others haven’t
what i'm saying is that ranged champions can proc it more safely (as they often have means of escape) or even proc it multiple times. take twitch, he can just use his q and instantly regain the passive, same for kai'sa and vayne. i'm not against nerfing the bonus damage, i just find weird that they didn't lower the one for ranged champions as well...
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: YOU DON'T NEED TO CHECK EVERY SINGLE GAME GET THAT THROUGH YOUR %%%%ING HEADS PEOPLE. Aknowledgment of punishment leads many people away from toxic behaviour. Aknowledgment of no punishment(which is particulary true in the case of trolls) leads to more toxic behaviour.
if you want to scare people you must enforce a harsh punisment, meaning you must be 1000% sure that the one you are punishing actually deserves it otherwise you end up with people demanding apologies and the immediate unban, faulting the entire system. problem is, how exactlyu are you going to find those people? either have a small team that looks at recorded games ( watching the same one 10 times, once per player) and then they decide if someone is bannable or not (highly impractical and time consuming) or hire hundreds of people to spectate the game directly/watch the recording later, still too expansive. also, thanks for flaming in a post about bannable players XD
Fedairkid (EUW)
: Don't take everything as flame
well considering the easly offended culture we live in nowadays, i'd say it's a general problem with younger players as most of them have "offended" as a default mood. i'm with you on this one, people tilt too easly lately.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: But it wasnt just ranged champions abusing the item, it was ridiculous on assassins too.
i know and i won't deny that, all i'm saying is that making it have the same damage for both ranged and melee champions is actually buffing ranged champs because they have a range advantage
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Duskblade was ridiculous, that item needed a nerf.
yes, the damage was too high, my point was about it being purchasable by ranged champions and that now those champions are at an advantage because they have range on top of the same bonus damage as melee.
HitYourHead (EUNE)
: when you ward no cursor apear for players like me that use smartcast for items also
yes but that's because you chose that setting. they could make something similar to that for the herald (setting the default as smartcast)
: PLEASE can we get some manual account checks?
sadly, there is nothing they can do. the playerbase is too massive and there wouldn't be enough manpower to be able to check every single game. even if they implemented a "perma block" mechanic where you could block someone to EVER be in your team again, that would backfire immediately making queues painfully long even with autofill. Trolls like that will have free reign until scientists develop a way to kick people in the balls via wireless.
: Eye of herald
or make it like a ward so when you click a cursor appears (maybe made different or with a symbol that tells you it's the herald) and you decide where to "spawn" the herald by clicking the map
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: no, that's not why this happened. Duskblade was quite a ridiculous item, but it was still a core item for assassins, which is why they got theyr compensation buffs.
still, i think the "nerf" they chose wasn't the right one. maybe they could have reworked mortal reminder or lord dominic's regards to become the exclusive lethality item for ranged champions making something like the hydras that aren't allowed on ranged and giving duskblade only to melee champions. That too, however, would be hard to make right. as of now i'm still building draktarr on jungle champions, i feel the "nerfed" damage isnot that big of a deal.
Antenora (EUW)
: Aery in mid lane? Comet is miles better.
it depends, comet is slow, unless you use a champion that slows the opponent chances are he is going to dodge it. aery is good if your champion uses amilities on allies too, that way he can shield allies when teamfights start late game.
: Disenchant Emotes ?
well there is a solution if you don't want to find emotes in the lootboxes...BUY THEM ALL {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Kayle and Morg champ and lore update?
they are going to do it but nobody knows when. probably next season as they stated they are going to rework/update them together.
Deyuragua (EUW)
: Irelia Frostblade
meh, it looks generic. that said i don't own ANY of her skins so...
OHiei (EUW)
: We should be able to request a refund on skins we bought before champ updates
it never happened to me (mostly because i rarely buy skins so i can't get refunds anyway) but i agree, this should be a thing. another thing they could do for skins is to change the re-roll mechanic so that it gives you the permanent in your loot even if you own the champion (instead of unlocking it automatically) and then YOU decide if you want to disenchant it or use it
eragon7734 (EUNE)
: Don't waste time reading
don't play this game. EVER. got it, thanks for the tip
: might not be riots fault but the world is full with whiny kids and we all know that.. you cant make a system in hope that you only get good ones
true, still, the autofill right now is the best option
: and now we spend more then a half cause in every autofilled game someone dodges -..-
again, it's the player's fault, not autofill's fault. People should stop being a one trick pony, take that stick out of their asses and LEARN OTHER ROLES. the worst thing i was autofilled to was adc (which i can't play that well) so you know what I did in that situation? i asked if i could GO SUPPORT and let someone else be adc! we quickly exchanged our lanes and actually WON. It's not Riot's fault if whiny kids dodge instead of adapting
: A tips to you is too cancel the queue before it hits the estimated queue time. I do that and i alomst never get autofilled.
yeah, i noticed that too. if the time exceeds the estimated by a little bit (like up to 20 seconds) then 9/10 you get your secondary role, if it gets more than a minute then you are about to be support
LongbowNL (EUW)
: Autofill should be deleted
absolutely not! autofill cuts down the queue time A LOT. if you disable that, you could spend even half an hour looking for a game and you are literally THE ONLY ONE that would prefer that. Learn how to play different roles or play support willingly once or twice to get your autofill protected and stop bothering people with these meaningless rants
Kurotsu (EUW)
: I laughed at "You did not gnak" xD
and here i thought i did good by ganking when in reality i was supposed to be gnaking :\
: Nerf new Irelia.
no seriously, lee had too much mobility and was op and then they do this? are they NUTS?
GreyfellD (EUW)
: Can Riot stop pretending they made the emote system for anything other then to increase toxicity?
well, that depends on the player. i use emotes just to tell my leash to go when i start jungle (i use lux's "nice try" as it's cute and does 2 thumbs up) other than that i mainly use emotes to just give a thumbs up or two to my laner after a successful gank. blaming emotes for toxicity is like blaming guns for murders, if someone wants to kill someone else they will do it wheter they have a gun or not, the gun just makes it easier. players were mocking each other since the game begun and when there were no emotes they just spammed the existing animations (spamming laughter or the first taunt over and over) So, do emotes increase toxicity? kinda, in the hands of a toxic player even the basic thumbs up is toxic. Did Riot make them TO increase toxicity? No, they made them to milk more money out of meaningless things in a free-to-play game. By your reasoning everything should be removed, the 2 taunts, the laughter, the dance, the joke, the mastery emote. EVERYTHING. because all of those things can be used to mock someone
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: If someone uses them to verbal abuse....I got to see that xd
: Riot made this really interesting article on trashtalk, but it is only from player perspective.
well considering Riot actually made champions that MUST troll to work (singed, shaco and teemo for instance) i don't think they hate "bad behaviour" they just don't want to deal with it personally :\
61915 (EUW)
: if i use mod skin u get ban?
ok, CUSTOM skins aren't illegal as long as they don't give you an advantage (show you the range of your abilities and whatnot) as only YOU can see them unless someone else on either team has the same custom skin (they take the place of the base skin for a champion) but i heard they are getting patched-out with each new patch so i'm not sure how long will they be around. anything else is a problem, if you find a site that promises you "free skins" or "free RP" you won't get banned, your account will simply get stolen. i'm not aware if there are means to unlock actual skins for free with the exceptions of Riot Girl Tristana, Unchained Alistar and Dreadknight Garen since all of those are given by riot (with the champion if you don't own them) just by liking their facebook, twitter and youtube account (or by sending a ticket) so if you find ways to do so with ANY other skin...i'd suggest you simply don't.
: Nightcore Legends Never Die
legends never die, chipmunk edition
Igi (EUW)
: Mate look at her before visual update she was fat kid whit hammer xD Umm that was a joke more,then worth to explain smh... xD ( just random go a'know )
luckily, i started playing AFTER the VGU XD
Rioter Comments
: So you say that you are a connoisseur of midget porn?
not any midget, just poppy u_u
Igi (EUW)
: Look at Jinx Lux xD
ok...i don't see it, what does it seem? XD
Igi (EUW)
: Pedo-NEET ... {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Or u maybe like to be called lolicon ? {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Joking mate :) http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/955/182/c4a.jpg
i think Poppy would be more of a shortstack than a loli as she isn't a kid nor does she look that much like one she would be more akin to a dwarf or a hobbit XD (as opposed to Zoe that despite being thousands of years old actually RESEMBLES a kid)
TheLynxMan (EUNE)
: It's like https://pics.esmemes.com/welcome-to-aatroxs-e-anal-inspection-d-mockingbird-7904899.png
i love you {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Mada (EUW)
: If it's MF, I wouldn't mind her doing that to me
i'm more of a "poppy guy" but yes, i agree :P
: Chat Bans are a joke
you just spammed "reported" if you do that too much it's punishable (even if not stated in the rules) because you aren't saying anything constructive. this is a chat ban, so you can still learn a very important lesson: when your teammates behave like that, ignore them. you can say that you are muting them so they , possibly, won't talk to you in chat about strategy (altough in cases like yours i seriously doubt it could happen). next time something like this happens, just mute them, tell them you did that (just to be safe) and then keep playing. you can try to surrender if they start feeding (probably useless because if there are 2 premades they will keep refusing just to make you waste time out of spite) but you should just keep chatting with the one or two players that still PLAY. avoid all chat, it's pointless as 9/10 games the enemy team is GLAD that someone on your team is feeding/trolling since they will have an easy win (i personally don't like when an enemy feeds or trolls but i'm just one player)
: I somehow enjoy alot this section of the splashart https://gyazo.com/3f51ee079366c9c0503ffa8b649d7993 {{sticker:garen-swing}}
: Looks like the heel is already in quite far from the look on rakas face.
Rioter Comments
Wen294 (EUW)
: Put in your own words: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/397/625/be7.jpg
MS Vucko98 (EUNE)
why just Xin? DELETE EVERYONE, close the game, GG, good night boys, it has been an honor playing with you gentlemen, let's all go play MINECRAFT! IN SINGLE PLAYER MODE SO WE WON'T FEED!
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