Declined (EUNE)
: Any relevant detail I could provide you at this point, has already been pointed out by Hansiman.
> [{quoted}](name=Declined,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=00300000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T12:24:56.810+0000) > > Any relevant detail I could provide you at this point, has already been pointed out by Hansiman. Yeah, Hansiman was helpful. I will keep working on my current ticket. I will share any relevant info with you all. For now, I don't think I will be commenting on this thread, unless something important must be said. Thanks. Moonblast
Declined (EUNE)
: I'm enlightening you as to how the system is designed and the reasoning behind your permanent ban. I could go into more details, on how Riot made a lot of research into punishments affected behavior and why this system is now the most efficient, but I doubt you'd be interested in that atm.
> [{quoted}](name=Declined,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=003000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T11:43:34.092+0000) > > I'm enlightening you as to how the system is designed and the reasoning behind your permanent ban. I know how the system works. You don't need to enlighten me with that. However, thank you. The emissary here said that Riot is known for reverting a permaban to a 2 week ban if the punishment is too harsh. I think my punishment is too harsh. I am asking for help. This has nothing to do with knowing how the system works.
Declined (EUNE)
: Greetings Moonblast, It seems to me that you're somewhat misinformed about how the system is designed. In the poll you ask: Deserved Perma Ban? When in fact the question should be: Deserved punishment? If the answer to that question is "yes" then you'll immediately be bumped up to the next punishment tier, which in your case was a permanent ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Declined,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=0030,timestamp=2018-10-24T11:39:56.783+0000) > > Greetings Moonblast, > > It seems to me that you're somewhat misinformed about how the system is designed. > In the poll you ask: Deserved Perma Ban? > When in fact the question should be: Deserved punishment? > If the answer to that question is "yes" then you'll immediately be bumped up to the next punishment tier, which in your case was a permanent ban. Are you for real here? I mean, is this your legit contribution to my problem? Manipulating my words? gg
Hansiman (EUW)
: When you've already had a round of chat restrictions, and a 14 day ban, you're on your very last chance. Any further signs of unwanted behavior is enough to push you over the edge. If the system picks up that you're spiraling back to the behavior you were punished for before, it'll punish you. --- There **has** been a rare problem where wrong logs are sent to the user, but support should provide you with details if that's the case. Even if just one log is sent to you, it's common that permabans are caused by behavior in multiple games, but it's also common that just the final game that pushed you over the edge is sent to you as evidence. Again, support can provide you with additional logs from other games the system picked up on your behavior if this is the case. --- I don't have access to account information, so I can't check up on the matter myself. All I can do is offer you advice on how you should proceed. If you have an active ticket, stick with that. From another post you made it sounded like you were sending in multiple tickets, which I can just say is a bad idea that may dramatically increase your waiting time.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T11:26:26.727+0000) > > When you've already had a round of chat restrictions, and a 14 day ban, you're on your very last chance. Any further signs of unwanted behavior is enough to push you over the edge. > > If the system picks up that you're spiraling back to the behavior you were punished for before, it'll punish you. > --- > There **has** been a rare problem where wrong logs are sent to the user, but support should provide you with details if that's the case. > > Even if just one log is sent to you, it's common that permabans are caused by behavior in multiple games, but it's also common that just the final game that pushed you over the edge is sent to you as evidence. Again, support can provide you with additional logs from other games the system picked up on your behavior if this is the case. > --- > I don't have access to account information, so I can't check up on the matter myself. All I can do is offer you advice on how you should proceed. If you have an active ticket, stick with that. From another post you made it sounded like you were sending in multiple tickets, which I can just say is a bad idea that may dramatically increase your waiting time. And again, they have no other chat logs, I asked FOR THEM, but they don’t have any. It’s like my 7th ticket, they have no other chat logs to send me.! EDIT: by 7th ticket I mean its the 7th time I reply to a ticket they closed, I am not sending multiple tickets, just replying to the same one.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > He makes it obvious he disagrees on the screenshots Which is very different from claiming it's deficient. --- > There are some things he did not want to type on a ticket that anyone in Riot could see. I don't see the issue though. Riot has a very clear policy to revoke bans that are a mistake. They've also lowered permabans to 14 day bans if it is clear that the penalty is too harsh. Why they won't do that in your case is not something I know, but I find it odd that a support agent would just state that it's against their policy and that nothing can be done, because by my experience, that's not correct. If the ban is a mistake, Riot will admit that.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T11:19:10.624+0000) > > Which is very different from claiming it's deficient. > --- > > I don't see the issue though. Riot has a very clear policy to revoke bans that are a mistake. They've also lowered permabans to 14 day bans if it is clear that the penalty is too harsh. > > Why they won't do that in your case is not something I know, but I find it odd that a support agent would just state that it's against their policy and that nothing can be done, because by my experience, that's not correct. > > If the ban is a mistake, Riot will admit that. I am not sure either tbh, and as I said, I have all my reform cards and I have no problem sharing them all. Also the fact that I got out of dishonorable and back to level 1 cp 2, perma banning me after that chat log is bonkers, which shows the system IS deficient. Also , Riot has a policy of systematically saying NO at first. And copy pasting their replies. So I am not sure about what you are saying at all. Another thing, I am not asking to go unpunished, I am willing to accept my loss of rewards, border, etc and even a 2 week suspension, I can accept that, but permaban is way out line in my case, and I truly believe that.
Hansiman (EUW)
: Considering there are more than 100 million accounts, the amount of permabanned players **is** a small percentage. The vast majority of players will never get close to that form of punishment. --- > The system is deficient datm, this was even said to me by Player Support. Not according to your screenshots.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T11:12:35.566+0000) > > Considering there are more than 100 million accounts, the amount of permabanned players **is** a small percentage. The vast majority of players will never get close to that form of punishment. > --- > > Not according to your screenshots. He makes it obvious he disagrees on the screenshots, and there’s a reason he asked me to talk in the LOL client. There are some things he did not want to type on a ticket that anyone in Riot could see. But obviously I am not expecting you to agree with me. It’s quite clear which side you’re on from the very beginning.
Hansiman (EUW)
: That's a common theory, but it's quite honestly a conspiracy. From a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense. One of the major rason players quit games is toxicity. Combating toxic behavior is important, as the rest of the community are the ones Riot want to have stay, and potentially purchase content. Those that a permabanned represent a very very small percentage of the overall community. The amount of money they spend in the game compared to what the rest of the community is going to be a drop in the ocean. Permabanning them at the chance that they'll make new accounts and spend more simply doesn't make sense. It's the rest of the community that Riot wants to protect, not the toxic one.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T11:03:22.303+0000) > > That's a common theory, but it's quite honestly a conspiracy. From a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense. > > One of the major rason players quit games is toxicity. Combating toxic behavior is important, as the rest of the community are the ones Riot want to have stay, and potentially purchase content. > > Those that a permabanned represent a very very small percentage of the overall community. The amount of money they spend in the game compared to what the rest of the community is going to be a drop in the ocean. Permabanning them at the chance that they'll make new accounts and spend more simply doesn't make sense. > > It's the rest of the community that Riot wants to protect, not the toxic one. Well, I get that Riot has to protect the community, I really do. And I would strive for that. I think cheating, inting, afking, trolling, and being sexist/homophobic/wishing death to a player and his/her whole family, should be punished. But guess what? I do not fit in any of those categories. I would punish cheating with direct permaban, no warnings, no second chances (we all know scripting really destroys a game, any game). I have a couple of friends that got permaban over really silly reform cards, so, If myself and 2 people I know got permabanned for things like this, do you really think its a "very very small percentage" like all of you Emissaries keep saying? Because at this stage, I don't think permabans are a "very very small percentage". The system is deficient datm, this was even said to me by Player Support.
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonblast,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f00000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T10:37:30.129+0000) > > Thank you for your message bro. > They are pretty horrible imo, the more I think about it, the more it saddens me, > I feel like they treated my like shit. > > I will try follow your advice tho <3 Well i just know how it feels, i had this account from season 2 mostly i get lots of honours and stuff, so it was devastated to lose my account because a troll and a guy that flamed me all game, but it happened early this year, so i just went trough this, it wont be getting easy but with time you will calm down and it wont bother you so much and this can be a wake up call, to see how this game made you toxic and negative and how you wasted your time for nothing. Just keep your mind busy with something and check about news from NA experiment.
> [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T10:51:30.557+0000) > > Well i just know how it feels, i had this account from season 2 mostly i get lots of honours and stuff, so it was devastated to lose my account because a troll and a guy that flamed me all game, but it happened early this year, so i just went trough this, it wont be getting easy but with time you will calm down and it wont bother you so much and this can be a wake up call, to see how this game made you toxic and negative and how you wasted your time for nothing. Just keep your mind busy with something and check about news from NA experiment. Well, I am sure a lot of people who got their accounts banned, maybe 80%, create a new account and end up buying the same skins they already had again, so, I have this theory that Riot is doing this to get more money. Imagine if 10000 players start playing again after being banned, they want their old skins, so thats 20000 players that bought the same skin, X2 money.
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonblast,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f,timestamp=2018-10-24T09:06:40.753+0000) > > For ayone interested, I am still contacting Riot about this. > They keep copy pasting replies. > So I will keep sending tickets. I don't think I am giving up anytime soon. you probably should give up and continue with your life( the more time you spend the more it will hurts you), for Riot you and many like you are nothing, they do not care, they have their system and if the system said so, it must be true, trust me i tried having reasons with Riot and at some point some of the support actually told me to f@ck off( not with that words but with taht kind of attitude, I, like you wanted answer and wanted to understand why i was exactly banned and that their so called rules are so vague, i was trying to explain them to see that I actually started to ignore flaming and stuff and i was on my way of reforming, but they couldn't care less, the most human answer was from a support that said, taht my last chat wasnt the most positive and that they agree with me about how vague the rules are and even they don't use the chat because of that, because they are afraid of getting punished. So my advice is just screw them off and have a time to calm down, with time you will feel better, try other games, read a book or something, just let some time pass. The only hope all the permabanns like us is the NA experiment, but it is not that much of a hope anyway, but it is something. If you make new account just play it like you are some emotionless bot that don't care much about the game and you will be fine.
> [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002f0000,timestamp=2018-10-24T10:30:05.747+0000) > > you probably should give up and continue with your life( the more time you spend the more it will hurts you), for Riot you and many like you are nothing, they do not care, they have their system and if the system said so, it must be true, trust me i tried having reasons with Riot and at some point some of the support actually told me to f@ck off( not with that words but with taht kind of attitude, I, like you wanted answer and wanted to understand why i was exactly banned and that their so called rules are so vague, i was trying to explain them to see that I actually started to ignore flaming and stuff and i was on my way of reforming, but they couldn&#x27;t care less, the most human answer was from a support that said, taht my last chat wasnt the most positive and that they agree with me about how vague the rules are and even they don&#x27;t use the chat because of that, because they are afraid of getting punished. > > So my advice is just screw them off and have a time to calm down, with time you will feel better, try other games, read a book or something, just let some time pass. The only hope all the permabanns like us is the NA experiment, but it is not that much of a hope anyway, but it is something. > If you make new account just play it like you are some emotionless bot that don&#x27;t care much about the game and you will be fine. Thank you for your message bro. They are pretty horrible imo, the more I think about it, the more it saddens me, I feel like they treated my like shit. I will try follow your advice tho <3
: You had a 2-week suspension and unfortunately you had many warnings leading up to it. Whilst this alone doesn't deserve a perma-ban, the attitude is still negative and not welcome in LoL. As a result you essentially ignored that final warning and got yourself banned. I believe it deserved only on the basis that you had the 2-week suspension and a big-ass warning. However I'm sorry it's happened to you.
Thing is, after the two week suspension, I went from Dishonorable to Honor 1 checkpoint 2. So, I was doing fine until this ONE argument, and bang, permaban. Makes NO sense to me.
Moonblast (EUW)
: Deserved Permaban¿
For ayone interested, I am still contacting Riot about this. They keep copy pasting replies. So I will keep sending tickets. I don't think I am giving up anytime soon.
Xinyuo (EUW)
: The SS isn't fake, but the convo is bullcrap. Asskissery lvl 1k. Also, your reform ''cards'' Please show every single 1, lol+would love to see Genathos post here her/himself ps: wouldn't be surprised if this was your second account
> [{quoted}](name=Xinyuo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=002900000001,timestamp=2018-10-20T15:48:56.390+0000) > > The SS isn&#x27;t fake, but the convo is bullcrap. Asskissery lvl 1k. > > Also, your reform &#x27;&#x27;cards&#x27;&#x27; > > Please show every single 1, lol+would love to see Genathos post here her/himself > > ps: wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if this was your second account which is my second account?
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonblast,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=001d00020001,timestamp=2018-10-20T11:57:44.721+0000) > > I put it on the original post eddit the last screen, you havent eddit the support's name :D
> [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=001d000200010000,timestamp=2018-10-20T14:18:03.299+0000) > > eddit the last screen, you havent eddit the support&#x27;s name :D Holy shit. thanks.
Xinyuo (EUW)
: That chat is fake as hell, also not covering 1 of the pics lol
> [{quoted}](name=Xinyuo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=0029,timestamp=2018-10-20T13:35:43.843+0000) > > That chat is fake as hell, also not covering 1 of the pics lol Wtf you mean it’s fake ???? Also what pic do you mean? I can take more screenshots, it is not fake.
: i was perma banned as well for being flamed and defending myself lol.. didnt even insult anyone or anything, they just all gave me report bc 2 premades and they all flamed me
> [{quoted}](name=Morellonomiconas,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=0025,timestamp=2018-10-20T11:25:27.337+0000) > > i was perma banned as well for being flamed and defending myself lol.. didnt even insult anyone or anything, they just all gave me report bc 2 premades and they all flamed me I am a girl too, and one of the chat logs from my 2 week ban reform cards I was defending myself from heavily sexist attacks.(and by defending I dont mean disrespecting, just I have a right to defend myself if someone attacks me over my gender) What if irl I guy told me I am a whore for wearing a skirt? Do I have to ignore them or fight back to defend myself? Riot is doing things way wrong imo. Its ridiculous.
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonblast,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2018-10-19T20:18:36.895+0000) > > So I have news on this. > > I was chatting to a Rioter for about 20 minutes. > He confessed to me that it was a NO for him, he checked my account history and he thought this was 100% unfair . But Riot policy wouldnt allow him to do anything about it, he literrally apologised to me. > > So yeah, all of you who were telling me a deserved it, you were wrong, but not even someone in Riot could help me. > > Peace. can you just eddit the screenshot and black this person's name and show the chat. i am interested in that too. just eddint their names and show it to us
> [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=001d0002,timestamp=2018-10-20T08:05:55.785+0000) > > can you just eddit the screenshot and black this person&#x27;s name and show the chat. i am interested in that too. > just eddint their names and show it to us I put it on the original post
Moonblast (EUW)
: Deserved Permaban¿
Nope, just this one, I attached a link to the Gyazo that shows just this one game.
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonblast,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2018-10-19T20:18:36.895+0000) > > So I have news on this. > > I was chatting to a Rioter for about 20 minutes. > He confessed to me that it was a NO for him, he checked my account history and he thought this was 100% unfair . But Riot policy wouldnt allow him to do anything about it, he literrally apologised to me. > > So yeah, all of you who were telling me a deserved it, you were wrong, but not even someone in Riot could help me. > > Peace. can you just eddit the screenshot and black this person's name and show the chat. i am interested in that too. just eddint their names and show it to us
> [{quoted}](name=JenShen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=001d0002,timestamp=2018-10-20T08:05:55.785+0000) > > can you just eddit the screenshot and black this person&#x27;s name and show the chat. i am interested in that too. > just eddint their names and show it to us Ok,I will be home in about 30 minutes and I will do that. I will just paint over his name.
Xinyuo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=BEST0YI0EUW,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-10-19T17:29:35.856+0000) > > League boards are full of SJW&#x27;s nowdays. You account here is worthless, the time and money you put into it are worthless... > I&#x27;ve been here for months and this is literally the only people I see here. I am sorry but if you are honestly thinking that what he wrote is worth loosing all his progress and time spent then you are an idiot Look, im 1 of the biggest anti sjw's you can find. But you don't get banned for just that. You pretty much have to be flame 24/7 2 even get the 2 weeks one, and then you are simply fkd. (I talk from experience unfortunally when i took the game 2 serious in s5^^" Thanks god it was on my smurf (even tho that 1 was high plat as well) ps: i did vote no, simply cause i don't think THAT game was banworthy. But for all i care is this a cheap edit/insane toxicity bf this.
Well I can assure you I do not flame 24/7, I have all the reform cards I got, and you would be surprised over what I got banned for. I dont know if you read it, but even a Rioter told me that my permaban was unfair but his hands were tied due to Riots Policy...He apologised to me.
Hansiman (EUW)
: I'd like to see a screenshot of that ticket.
As I mentioned earlier, I dont want to post it here, it shows his/her name so I dont want to cause him trouble. Is there a way I can send screenshots of the ticket privately?
Hansiman (EUW)
: Can you screenshot that? If a ban is judged to be in err by support, they do revert it.
can i send it to you in private? i wouldnt like to expose someone and possibly cause them harm
Moonblast (EUW)
: Deserved Permaban¿
So I have news on this. I was chatting to a Rioter for about 20 minutes. He confessed to me that it was a NO for him, he checked my account history and he thought this was 100% unfair . But Riot policy wouldnt allow him to do anything about it, he literrally apologised to me. So yeah, all of you who were telling me a deserved it, you were wrong, but not even someone in Riot could help me. Peace.
: First of all, it is never nice to hear that someone has permanently lost access to their account. Though it is nice to know that the system is doing the job it was designed for. Now, before people get to invert my words and say that I explicitly support this kind of system and that I think it is flawless, note that I said "...it was DESIGNED for". This implies that the system only did what it was told by someone (single person or a group), and whether I agree with their sense of justice is not what I said. However, we need to bear in mind that the whole process that leads up to a permanent ban is a lengthy one: first you just get off with a **warning**, then a **3 day ban**, then, after the three days have passed and you get back and conduct negative behaviour again, you get a **week long ban**. Then a week goes by, you focused on other things like studying (/s), you go back to the game, and repeat the same behaviour, and then you get a **two-week ban**. This one is pretty serious, and it comes with a warning that you will get permanently banned from your account lest you "reform" (I don't like this word, but most people here understand it, so here it is). And then, after two longer weeks where you went back to do some more studying and raise your grades (/s), you finally log back into the game and, for example, five games later you get into your "toxic" (don't like this one either) self, and find that you're permanently been blocked access to that account. This whole process takes at least a **whole month**, which is definitely enough time for someone to realize what is going wrong and fixing it. Honestly, if I were in such a situation, I would just mute the chat as there is no longer the "refusing to communicate" report option is gone, so you don't even have to type a word anymore. Just don't troll pick, don't give up, try to be good and you can even rank up in honor for those sweet key fragments. One interesting fact is that Riot used to repeat the two-week ban, not sure about now, so there is that hope that you can try and plead for the punishment to change for the two-week one. Good luck on that, though, Riot is not known for their mercy towards your typical permanently-banned accounts (i.e not a special case like tyler1 or the ban reverts experiment on NA server).
Well, I get your point. But as I mentioned on my initial post I got from dishonorable to honor 1 checkpoint 2 during the few weeks after the 2 week suspention. Then I have an argument in a toxic game, and I got permabanned.
: I feel like you should get banned if you did what I think you did (sitting on base or leaving ur adc to 1v2) after saying this.. [5:56] Janna: im done bot [6:08] Janna: why you trade [6:37] Janna: :D [9:01] Janna: ff [9:03] Janna: open [9:21] Janna: ?
I kept on playing like I always do. I have never been afk in my life, not intentionally.
Lord Grim (EUNE)
: To tell you the truth I think you deserved the ban. One thing is you were on suspension, means you're not a good guy, while I can't see what score you got... But I kinda envision, from the text : adc early afk, then came back and tried to be aggressive, but then you can kinda guess you left bot, so you can be categorized for a troll (nitpicking), furthermore you even went for others, + spamming of ping etc. you can kinda envision that it was you with no better score blaming others... So don't be pety and own up to your mistakes... Personal advice learn to be sarcastic : call's you a noob ; say : WELCOME to the league or smth... don't insult others because he/she was afk, people to have other problems....{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
What makes you think you are entitled to tell me I am not a good guy? As I said on my post, I can post the chat logs for the 2 week suspension, which are very similar conversations to this argument on that reform card... I think this is getting way out of hand, you calling me a bad person because of a game chat in which I didnt even insult anyone seems crazy to me...
: >[3:47] Janna: love afks in early [4:15] Janna: thats why you have 10 cs in 4 minutes [4:18] Janna: and we are under leveld [5:56] Janna: im done bot [6:08] Janna: why you trade [6:37] Janna: :D [9:01] Janna: ff [9:03] Janna: open You are pretty negative. >[10:34] Janna: 4 minutes [12:07] Janna: xD [12:39] Janna: should have [12:41] Janna: dodged [13:12] [All] Janna: he just flames everyone else lmao [13:57] [All] Janna: actually , he is the one who spams chat , so i think he is the mad one [14:02] [All] Janna: i dont give a shit about this game [14:21] [All] Janna: 0 3 0 talks [14:40] [All] Janna: i spam ping because u trash talk [14:49] [All] Janna: i got a kill and you didnt haha [14:55] [All] Janna: assassin " [15:09] [All] Janna: you cant [16:05] Janna: you dont play assassins but you pick fizz top? [16:07] Janna: interesting [16:46] Janna: i cant understand your english [17:00] Janna: i mean [17:17] Janna: i get and afk adc and i get blamed [17:29] Janna: while you all lost lanes [18:31] Janna: i think 0 4 0 is pretty bad [18:36] Janna: 0 kill particpattion [20:15] Janna: well [20:16] Janna: well [23:35] Janna: gg Yeah really nothing about what you said is positive...
As I said before, I know I am not the best version of myself in this game. But that's not what I am asking, I am asking if a Permaban is deserved for that 1 reform card.
mamamyama (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonblast,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=L0v8WABX,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-10-19T13:35:41.802+0000) > > Hey, no! this is the only chat log I got in the reform card. I will edit post when I get home from work and post a Gyazo with screenshot if that's the case make a ticket to the support and ask them to review the case , im pretty sure they will help you out
I already did, and they said they will not change their desicion.
mamamyama (EUW)
: u didnt get banned over this one game right ? there should be 2 other games can we have the chat logs of these too ?
Hey, no! this is the only chat log I got in the reform card. I will edit post when I get home from work and post a Gyazo with screenshot
Buxtata (EUNE)
: > [4:15] Janna: thats why you have 10 cs in 4 minutes Shaming > [5:56] Janna: im done bot Probably verbal abuse > [9:01] Janna: ff [9:03] Janna: open Griefing, giving up > [12:39] Janna: should have [12:41] Janna: dodged Griefing > [14:02] [All] Janna: i dont give a shit about this game Inappropriate language, griefing, giving up > [14:21] [All] Janna: 0 3 0 talks Shaming > [14:49] [All] Janna: i got a kill and you didnt haha Shaming > [17:29] Janna: while you all lost lanes Blaming ------------------ This is my quick analysis as I understand it. Do you deserve a perma for this? I think it's too much. But you were indeed toxic in this game. You shouldn't have engaged in a conversation at all. Just for the record - I've been banned twice for 14 days and been able to come back to honor level 2 so I have a grasp of all the viewpoints.
Hey I am aware of not being the best version myself on that game, I was tilted by the team, they kept flaming me and I shouldn't have responded, but in this game I did. I am only human and sometimes I say things i regret, although I tried to keep respectful even thought I was being insulted and death was wished upon me and my family. I know it's not an excuse to talk back to someone, but in this game I did. I admitted being mildly toxic to Riot Support, but they said I 100% deserve a Permaban but I think its way too extreme...
Rioter Comments
: Keep mad, Im not banned :P
Mad? I am not mad. People like you get permabanned, thats just a reality.
: Do I get perma now?
Maybe if you love BJs so much, you should focus on getting them more frequently and play after. You might be more relaxed then (?) Honestly , your behaviour is unnaceptable, I am impressed you haven't been perma banned already. Because, even if you removed the chat logs, I read them, and you are toxic AF. If you get permabanned the community will be better off.
: When is it "OK" to AFK?
I would AFK if I got a phone call telling me a family member has died or has had an accident, and other things like that. Also domestic accidents such as fire , I mean, you all know what I'm talking about, there are situations in life completelly out of our control. I would literally just leave, not even turning off my computer or telling "my team" of full strangers what has happened. In such cases, I wouldn't care about getting punished, or anything like that, it's just a game which should never interfere with our real life. I've had games with 2 afks in my team, or 3 trolls, and never gone afk, even though I really wanted to. Unfortunately when this happens, I just let time pass until I can legit quit that game and move on.
loldg (EUW)
: "we got this cait" ... "cait reported" lol
I kind of remember that game, Cait was having a hard laning phase, and I wanted Cait to feel better and try to win botlane. But for some reason, she decided to go into our wolves with flash heal and get executed xD. Anyway, this is from a few months ago, and it helped me watch what I type, I never got punished again and getting honors in most games ;).
CJXander (EUNE)
: So you're basically threatening everyone with reports and also flame "don't int" lmao, since when did dying became "inting", you can just shut up and report without telling, it's not like someone is going to get scared of you or will listen to what you have to say, especially that you don't even know what you're talking about. Ban well deserved, enjoy vacation and try to reform.
lol dude what vacation? I WAS (past tense) chat restricted, wasn't even 14 day banned, as I mentioned in my initial post, this is from a few months ago, I never got punished again and getting quite a lot of honour.
: Stop talking and play the damn game! There is you advice. Now move on... ---Yes i'm in a bad mood---
Oh yeah, that's what I do now anyway, this was like 5 months ago. But still, wanted to show chatlogs that could get other people punished. Sorry to hear you're in a bad mood. Hope you feel better later or tomorrow <3.
Rioter Comments
: Annie's in-game Appearence
You're all a bunch of haters. I loved the cinematic, its pretty.
: "k y s" is not a 0 tolerance phrase
Seriously, people need to stop getting so offended and hurt by what a bunch of complete, random strangers say to you on an online game. Why would their insults even affect anyone? Just ignore these people ffs, and stop feeding them attention. I mean, one thing is people running down mid on your platinum V promos, but who cares about what flamers say?? Just IGNORE them!
Smerk (EUW)
: It was explained in 8.1 patch notes and then again in separate article, you should read one of those
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Lawetz (EUW)
: I'm so slow but I'm here
Why would you even worry so much about runes in Aram? Use the presets that fit a champ the most, its only Aram, not that important tbh. And imo, Arams take too long to start, so no way I would like them to last even longer.
: Most horrifying, terrible, gruesome thing in all league of legends.
: Racism
There is all these people on TW with apparently, no lifes, blaming, hating, and writing sh** on every single thing that could be slightly manipulated. I ignore those people and they are one of the main reasons I do not use TW at all. TW is full of haters with too much free time on their hands. Thats my opinion. And yeah, I do not think that ad was racist AT ALL, the people who made a big deal out of it, are the real problem.

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