: I'll take any nerfs Riot throws out on Fiora... but yeah this one barely qualifies as a nerf. Honestly if Riot just changed her passive to do physical damage with higher numbers then I would be fine with her. I mean, she's supposed to blow up squishies but be countered by tanks... right?? Cos she kinda blows up both of them right now.
Agreed. Specially that last sentence is true almost 100% of the time.
TheGauntler (EUNE)
: {{champion:58}} bait out w with basic then use your stun and dead fiora plz {{champion:80}} just poke. he comes you stun {{champion:35}} pff izipizi just box everything around you. she comes she dies. {{champion:62}} clone op {{champion:48}} reduce ad(thus rest damage) {{champion:92}} stupidly dumb chain cc allows you to bait out. {{champion:31}} oh ofc there is this fella who just cc's you and sustains you like a madman {{champion:90}} bit problematic pre6, as you basically want her to towerdive you to win the lane. after 6 dont give a damn mode on. {{champion:203}} just kite to death > [{quoted}](name=pampam666,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZofEQiWr,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-10-15T03:16:38.550+0000) >**Rumble** and **Vlad** are decent picks against her. Rumble needs smart managing your heatzone tho. Vlad tho, keep q'ing her to death. I dont play those champs much so didn't realize to reccomend them. > > There are a lot of champions that can screw Fiora over.U can play something that deosn have any hard CC so her W cant stun u or u can play mechanical champion and outplay her.She isnt even as good as before,since her base stat nerfs. > > But if u go in lane against her with that mentality that she is OP and u never trade with her only take the poke ofc u will lose. > > Some good picks against her:Vladimir,Rumble,Kennen(she cant stun u).Some skill matchups:Irelia,Yasuo,Olaf. > > But this doesnt mean u pick that champion and u insta win against her.U must play smart,know ur limits and know her limits. > > I played it a lot since her rework and i admit,before her base stats nerfs she was a faceroll champion.After that idk,she feels so squishy early and u can exploit that.Also treat her as Zed,buy a QSS and watch her cry(for those who dont know QSS removes her ult from u). I dont play them too much so I did not realize that.
Well... easier said than done, but i'll give some of these a try and see how it turns out :p Thanks for the tips =)
ChosenNoob (EUNE)
: Holy hell why isn't this guy in the balance team like right now do it
IKR!!! RIOT, HIRE THAT GUY PLEASE! <3
: > [{quoted}](name=ChiTenshi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZofEQiWr,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-10-14T22:49:26.741+0000) > > **E** = Reduce the Bonus Critical Damage Value. Guaranteed Critical Strikes should not be accessible unless they have high requirements. This Ability can kill Squishy Champions too easily, and Fiora doesn't need to build Critical Strike Chance for it to be effective. Better remove that crit and leave 2 basic attacks.
that's a bit harsh honestly... just seems like a very simple not-that-good ability :p
Myster10 (EUNE)
: How to fix fiora: Not touch her and let her be in her previous state before rework, what? you didn't like her pre-rework?? THEN STFU AND ENDURE IT CAUSE IT WAS YOUR CRYING THAT ENDED UP IN HER BEING REWORKED!
What's the point of reworking if she stays as strong as she was before? (and in my opinion even stronger now, specifically in the lanning phase) And btw... "IT WAS YOUR CRYING" ? i never complained about the old fiora although I hated it sometimes... just saying... Stay cool mate... just a normal discussion here :)
: She needs a bit more but this solves one of her issues, putting her ult on someone who is about to die to get the heal. Now team fighting for her is much harder as you need to get the majority of the marks to actually have much of a teamfight presence.
And I'm looking for that "a bit more" which is REALLY needed :p
: The ult was one of her problems , she always had good damage. And the spell that blocks everything and can even reflect a stun etc it's broken. It makes no sense , If I stay on place with my sword i won't block fire , grenades , bullets , bombs , magic projectiles , magic balls , some insane amount of water or an 20 meters {{champion:12}} hitting me
doesn't have to be realistic (because nothing is in league xD )... but ya... nice way to put it :D
Simato (EUW)
: You can already tell that she's broken just by the fact that she can even counter summoners like ignite with her W :|
Exactly. poor {{summoner:14}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} never has this happened with ignite before...
SS Pappino (EUNE)
: Fiora's kit is desiged to make her a duelist. someone who can win 1v1 fights more easily than others. However, her ult was functioning as a low effort teamfight tool, which goes like: "i ult him, u kill him,fight won". That should not work like this, and the nerf fixed this issue in her gameplay. theres no need to nerf her damage, thisis waht makes her good at what she can do: 1v1-ing.
That's true... specially the "thisis waht makes her good at what she can do: 1v1-ing" part. But I just feel like it's _way_ too good. Too good that it hurts knowing you're facing a fiora in the log in screen even before going into the game xD
: There are a lot of champions that can screw Fiora over.U can play something that deosn have any hard CC so her W cant stun u or u can play mechanical champion and outplay her.She isnt even as good as before,since her base stat nerfs. But if u go in lane against her with that mentality that she is OP and u never trade with her only take the poke ofc u will lose. Some good picks against her:Vladimir,Rumble,Kennen(she cant stun u).Some skill matchups:Irelia,Yasuo,Olaf. But this doesnt mean u pick that champion and u insta win against her.U must play smart,know ur limits and know her limits. I played it a lot since her rework and i admit,before her base stats nerfs she was a faceroll champion.After that idk,she feels so squishy early and u can exploit that.Also treat her as Zed,buy a QSS and watch her cry(for those who dont know QSS removes her ult from u).
Nice tips mate. when i started reading your comment at " something that doesn't have cc" I remembered that i tried playing morde against her... but she just cancels my my damage which is all in one hit (third q)... I might try rumble or vlad. And... I didn't used to face her with that mentality, but it was just normal for it to happen eventually after suffering alot for several consecutive games :/ Thanks again for the awesome comment =)
: How to take credit for a comment, lesson 1.
B..but... I said "Couldn't be said better" about what he wrote... I gave him full credit man :( {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}}
raps1355 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Phantom0fShadows,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZofEQiWr,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-10-15T00:53:00.351+0000) > > I don't think she was THAT useless before the rework. Actually, she was pretty viable. You could win or lose the lane based on how you play, and if you win, you snowball. If you lose, well... yea... you become useless. But with this new fiora, you almost win the lanning phase like 85% of the time. And when you lose, you almost automatically make some kind of a comeback by mid-game and become as strong as if you never lost the lanning phase. > I really wish she doesn't get nerfed THAT hard... but currently, she _really_ does need a legit nerf... not like the past one... Well if you agree that unless she got the hydra quickly and forced all ins every time the ult was off cooldown then yeah. But lets face it they nerfed her ult by weakening multi hits on the same target which made it for lack of a better term "fucking shit" and this is what will end up happening to her now. She was viable when you could tower dive outright kill someone and get off keeping 75%+ health. Its coming baby she will never be picked again.
Well, to be honest, I'd go with her being useless over her being an unbearable opponent. I NEVER went afk or rage quiited in any game, but I never got so close to doing that for the first time in 3 years as much as I did facing her in the latest several consecutive hopeless games.
raps1355 (EUW)
: Look just face it she will be nerfed until she is as useless as before the rework.
I don't think she was THAT useless before the rework. Actually, she was pretty viable. You could win or lose the lane based on how you play, and if you win, you snowball. If you lose, well... yea... you become useless. But with this new fiora, you almost win the lanning phase like 85% of the time. And when you lose, you almost automatically make some kind of a comeback by mid-game and become as strong as if you never lost the lanning phase. I really wish she doesn't get nerfed THAT hard... but currently, she _really_ does need a legit nerf... not like the past one...
ChiTenshi (EUW)
: How to fix Fiora: **Passive** = Either remove the Bonus Movement Speed, or the AD Scaling on the Target's Maximum Health Damage. Having both makes for a Broken Trading System in the Laning Phase. **W** = Should only stop the **First** Basic Attack or Ability that hits it. Blocking everything for a period of time says, 'F*ck you' to all Burst and Semi-Burst Champions. **E** = Reduce the Bonus Critical Damage Value. Guaranteed Critical Strikes should not be accessible unless they have high requirements. This Ability can kill Squishy Champions too easily, and Fiora doesn't need to build Critical Strike Chance for it to be effective.
YOU... I like you! I like how you think. Nice solutions bro! Really like them! You basically said what I wanted to say but in a more in-depth-details way (which is amazing!) Couldn't be said better... I just really wish solutions like these are really taken into consideration.
: Wouldn't make sense to argue with you here, since you'd circlejerk anyway. Her ult heal was more problematic than her damage, because it heals your team for 1k just by pressing two buttons in time whereas her damage comes over time, by using Q's to proc her passive. Fiora is one of my most played champs and I know what I'm talking about, if you don't believe me feel free to keep that to yourself.
Okay... I wasn't going to "circlejerk". Maybe I did underestimate the nerf to her ult a bit, it does make a difference in teamfights, but it really doesn't make that much difference in the lanning phase. Even you can't deny she's really strong during the lanning phase. That's what I was complaining about :/... no hate man, don't start with a negative mood... just a normal discussion here :)
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