: a little help how to get an idea of the player base
That was pretty bad lol Also, I hope there's more than 10 kind of people cause I'm none of that xd
: NO wonder this match was so hard to win...
What do you need to do to win a game? Damage to the enemy champs, in order to deal damage to the towers in order to deal damage to the nexus. Do pink wards deal damage? No. So pink wards are useless.
: What does disco mean? Like disconnect? It does indeed seem odd that the other guys are still playing. Maybe they'll get punished later. Did you flame them? Maybe chatbot (or something like that) detected rude words and banned you first?
https://youtu.be/yd5Hl3vKxfo Disco nunu
Puffel (EUW)
: Getting Champion shards after having all Champions feels punishing
Every 3rd box is a guaranteed skin. You can still use the shards to disenchant or for mastery tokens. If you wanna buy chests, get the masterwork ones.
: Karthus W 'wall of pain' - Strange name for a zero damage ability
Ever been to the gym? And the next day you have muscle pain like a mfker, every move you make hurts you, and you're slow as %%%%? That's Karthus' W. You have a lot of pain, but it deals no damage.
VorenDier (EUNE)
: I've never seen Riot communicating with the players about their changes in game! Why?
Players have no idea how to properly balance, they just think they do
: As a jungler what do you expect the laners to do?
https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringViscousZucchiniMVGame The life of a jungler Also, understand lane dynamics.
: > You don't understand a big part of what I just said Oh I understand what you _say_. I just do not trust your estimates. > they can still learn on a different account, they'll just be placed in iron. I never touch iron There's always bottom. Where do THEY go when their living space is taken by upper league players who want to practice in easy risk-free environment? > even if you're iron, you can still use a different account to learn on in ranked Ah but you forget one little detail, their 'competitive' space is not competitive any more because it is overrun but higher-Elo players who use it to practice on a secondary acc that is of no value to them (and therefore, there's no need to care about match result).
You're forgetting the fact that the people playing in that elo apparently have the skill level on that champ of that elo. As long as you always play to win, you never bother anyone.
: > [{quoted}](name=Player3Th0mas,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=n8cE5xKw,comment-id=0002000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T08:44:24.496+0000) > > I take it you didn't read any of my other replies? There's an extensive explanation there. > > Boils down to: I don't ruin anyone's games cause provisional matchmaking solves that problem easily. > > For more details, read my convo with rainfollower i did read it, u just go no clue what ruins a game.
So what ruins a game then? If I don't destroy my opponents, and solo play is more important than teamplay in low elo, and even if I communicate with my team they won't listen anyways. Give me an explanation of how I ruin any game if I play balanced matches. I think all of you are just so triggered by the word "smurf" that you just refuse to think it's not that bad. "you ruin games" Here's 10 reasons why I literally don't "yeah but you still do, cause you're playing on a smurf, but I won't give you any reasons you've not already debunked" You being gold 4 on your main and bronze 2 in flex 5v5 is the exact same thing. Oyu start off in basic MMR, and you work yourself up. You don't think actual bronze players who play flex 5v5 have an issue with that?
: Done. I quit.
https://i.imgur.com/ksKKtbo.jpg
: > [{quoted}](name=Player3Th0mas,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=n8cE5xKw,comment-id=00020000000000010001,timestamp=2019-09-17T21:33:24.217+0000) > > I want to be able to play a new role or a new champ in a competitive setting. Normals are not a competitive setting > > I can't suddenly start playing adc in soloqueue on my main, since I've always climbed with top or jungle, which I'm better at. > > If I'm say, plat 4 with top/jungle, and I start to play adc in ranked on my main, I'll feed and feed since I'm bad at that role. > > So if I have a smurf account where I can start playing adc, and learning as I climb, it's a much smoother experience. > Currently learning to play zed on my smurf > > Why is that bad? cause u got way more micro/macro knowledge and game mechanics then the ppl in low elo and its completely unfair to them even if u learn a new role.
I take it you didn't read any of my other replies? There's an extensive explanation there. Boils down to: I don't ruin anyone's games cause provisional matchmaking solves that problem easily. For more details, read my convo with rainfollower
: > ...When I started playing adc on my smurf, I actually lost my first few games cause I didn't have proper champion knowledge > ...I'm trying to learn zed, and if he's not banned, I usually lose lane to silvers > ...I have no clue how zed mechanics work. > ... Yes I have plat level map awareness and game knowledge > ...They can make the same choice I did. (except that they can't because you took away their competitive environment where they could learn, and they can't go three leagues below to the next sub-bronze or sub-silver) That is exactly what I call the wrong mindset. Exactly the reason why smurfing accs should be as much expensive as possible to make and maintain. This is the best reason to make this 5-lvl ranked requirement, ever.
You don't understand a big part of what I just said: - I don't ruin any games for anyone, because I'll be out of those leagues within no time, so I'm not taking away anyone's competitive environment - they can still learn on a different account, they'll just be placed in iron. I never touch iron, so they still have a place. - even if you're iron, you can still use a different account to learn on in ranked. Even if its not easier to learn for them per se, but because you just don't tank your main. Since I'll always be playing to win, I will never be intruding anywhere. The provisional matchmaking change from this year made sure of that.
: > I can't suddenly start playing adc in soloqueue on my main, since I've always climbed with top or jungle, which I'm better at. > If I'm say, plat 4 with top/jungle, and I start to play adc in ranked on my main, I'll feed and feed since I'm bad at that role. So You cant play ADC on Your main acc (Plat, Diamond) cuz probably You will fed enemy but... > So if I have a smurf account where I can start playing adc, and learning as I climb, it's a much smoother experience. ... You can demolish Bronze , Silver`s cuz Your mechanic`s is 100 time`s better than low elo players. %%%% logic.
Did you read my reply to the other person? I don't demolish anything. Maybe 1 or 2 games total, other than that I don't. If I have the skill level of a silver on a champ, I'm not going to demolish any silver games.
: Ah that's very good that you want a place to learn. But what's about those other 9 people every game who get a teammate like that? Have you thought of them? You know, those bronze guys who try to play serious in a competitive environment of their own at the top of their skill, and suddenly they have an adc with 0 champion experience and platinum-level basic skills and knowledge? And where will _those guys_ learn their newbie mechanics if they want to change a role?
Within 3 games of playing ranked on that account I'm basically silver 4 already. When I started playing adc on my smurf, I actually lost my first few games cause I didn't have proper champion knowledge, only after a few games I started climbing, and so did my rank and Mmr. Soon I was playing balanced games again. Same with midlane now, I'm trying to learn zed, and if he's not banned, I usually lose lane to silvers, cause I have no clue how zed mechanics work. Yes I have plat level map awareness and game knowledge, but that's truly not going to carry every game. Since my champion or lane knowledge is low, I'll play balanced games, because low elo is less team based, and more winning lane based. As I learn I'll climb, and I'll keep playing balanced games. Provisional games start you out in like bronze 1, and then give 60 lp per win if you do it right. I'm not bothering any actual bronze players. Hell, my first ranked game on my smurf I was matched with high silver and low golds, I lost 3 games in a row on my newest account. You really don't have to worry about me ruining games. On some champs I'll play like a truly new player. And I'm not about to play normals, cause I'll just get my ass kicked each game and learn nothing. > And where will those guys learn their newbie mechanics if they want to change a role? They can make the same choice I did. Either play normal games, or make a smurf. They're free to make a new account, put a lot of time and effort into leveling it, and then trying out the new champ or lane on their smurf without having to worry about tanking their main MMR or rank. I'm not stopping anyone.
: Why am I playing against level 200+ players in my fist ranked match?
Because those players are apparently have the same MMR as a fresh account. Just keep playing. Within 5 games or so you'll be playing against people with your own skill level, it'll even out, the system works pretty well. You'll probably lose a few more (tbh 6/10/5 could have been a lot worse, it's a positive kda) Pretty bad to have basic MMR after 200+ ranked games tbh.
: Smurfs are the most disgusting people and in my opinion people who smurf should not even be regarded as a human being.
I want to be able to play a new role or a new champ in a competitive setting. Normals are not a competitive setting I can't suddenly start playing adc in soloqueue on my main, since I've always climbed with top or jungle, which I'm better at. If I'm say, plat 4 with top/jungle, and I start to play adc in ranked on my main, I'll feed and feed since I'm bad at that role. So if I have a smurf account where I can start playing adc, and learning as I climb, it's a much smoother experience. Currently learning to play zed on my smurf Why is that bad?
: Wrong MMR Wrong Elo Wrong punishment rating Wrong mindsets behind those accs.
I want to be able to play a new role or a new champ in a competitive setting. Normals are not a competitive setting I can't suddenly start playing adc in soloqueue on my main, since I've always climbed with top or jungle, which I'm better at. If I'm say, plat 4 with top/jungle, and I start to play adc in ranked on my main, I'll feed and feed since I'm bad at that role. So if I have a smurf account where I can start playing adc, and learning as I climb, it's a much smoother experience. Currently learning to play zed on my smurf
axilirate (EUW)
: I know and that's the problem.
There's a problem with a working ELO system? How else were you planning to do it?
Zuptra (EUW)
: well thats okay you dont most people like yourself also tend to be very stupid :)
: Ah. Another reason to implement this ASAP. Smurfs must suffer.
: Patch 9.18 Demoted bug
It's a hint you gotta transfer to Brazilian server
Tusk (EUNE)
: Testing champions in ranked games.
Um no. I have multiple accounts, if I want to play a champ I'm lvl 7 on on my main, on my smurf, I don't want to level it to lvl 5 first. Hell, I have a smurf where I only play champs I never play. I've v been trying out zed on my smurf, haven't touched zed in years on this acc
HGHam (EUW)
: 2 of the guys in 1 game were Plat players last season. I did check their op.gg. Yes, I've had some good games, but to be honest, I was either lucky or got carried.
So did I, and those players didn't really do anything. Nothing exceptional anyways And you're completely ignoring 60% of my point.
MissJJess (EUW)
: Top Lane
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: Well its because your mmr is utter trash^^ never seen such a bad mmr thats why you got 2 silvers ( who prob. got a good mmr otherwise they wouldn plat against high gold/low plat)
Both of them had a 65/66% winrate
: Unacceptable Matchmaking
You mean those 2 silver 1 with both a 66% winrate? They're just climbing real fast cause they're winning a lot of games. Both of them have high Mmr gains, so their Mmr could easily be mid to high gold. Considering you gain 12 lp and lose 23, that means your MMR is also mid to low gold probably. I see nothing wrong with you being matched with them.
: Day 2 reminder that matchmaking should be looked at
axilirate (EUW)
: The core issue with the ranked system.
AN ELO SYSTEM WILL ALWAYS GUIDE YOUR WINRATE TO 50%, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. I'm not typing this shit out again, but read this for my opinion. https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/vToEzl9r-how-that-forced-50-winrate-myth-really-works-detailed-explanation
JAMASAK (EUW)
: Fiora is balanced
: If matchmaking would be made depending on the queue with the highest MMR, it would be redundant to have multiple ladders. If you're starting out as a silver player in flex, while having D2 MMR on soloQ, would you wanna climb to the top while constantly playing against other D2 MMR soloQ players.. not how it works. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264509145766428673/623424923188330496/Screenshot_2019-09-17_at_10.47.46.png Here are the relevant ranks on OP.GG . I'd say the matchmaking for said queue type was pretty good. Slightly favouring the enemy team but nothing too bad. Flex is an environment for people to play for a "reward" while queueing up as a team. Emphasis on the team here. Maybe it's not taken as seriously as soloQ, but at times can be way more challenging. If you want some casual fun, I suggest draft normals or ARAMs. Flex will bring you a lot of frustration if you're alone/ with few friends.
Oh hey, someone with some common sense. Wow, that's rare on here.
: Lol, nope ur not the only one. Do you know how frustrating it is for a new player to get matched with people 100-250 or smurfs that obviously know every corner in the game. It's normal games but still, would like a better chance to learn. It's like the winratio has to somehow stay at 50% or something, idk. {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
It's like an elo system evens out on a 50% winratio if it works properly.
HGHam (EUW)
: I'm pissed
Either you're lying, or you're genuinely delusional. Or you're talking about a smurf? There were only 2 games where you actually played with a gold player, the other games were all Iron, bronze, silver or unranked. The two games you did play with gold players (one gold player in each game), you won one, and lost the other. Seems balanced to me. On top of that, out of your 8 games, you won 4. A 50% winrate is also balanced. Furthermore, you dismiss ELO right out of the gate, but you have no clue how it works. In the last 20 days, you've already played more normal games than ranked games this season. It's 100% possible that your NORMAL ELO is a lot higher than your RANKED ELO, because you just play more. If you keep an okay winrate, your normal elo with climb and you'll be pitched with better opponents. Maybe, just maybe, you're actually mid silver skill (since that's about the average rank you're matched with in these normal games), and then it's normal you're matched with low golds in normal games.
: I just lost 10 LP for a dodge because i dodged a normal game before.
: I'VE HAD IT WITH RECURVE BOW
Imagine playing on a fresh lvl 15 account lmao
pennywise28 (EUNE)
: i got banned becouse of bug
Considering you don't get leaverbuster low priority queue after just one disconnect, I'm guessing you consistently leave games.
: Does anyone know good educational jungle youtubers?
There's not that many as far as I know, and people will disagree with me. "I will dominate" (iwd) does jungle and does educational videos on jungling Trick2g used to do educational jungle videos, but they might be outdated and are a different playstyle Never watched "pants are dragon" but I know he's a challenger jungler
Tarolock (EUNE)
: if you dont feed on top/jungle then how do you feed as adc? not feeding is the same on every single champ... maybe you wont make that much dmg and wont engage as much but you can play adc... >So if I have a lvl 30 account where I can start playing adc, and learning as I climb, it's a much smoother experience. for you, but what about the ppl who are new to ranked and you destroy their game?
> if you dont feed on top/jungle then how do you feed as adc? not feeding is the same on every single champ... maybe you wont make that much dmg and wont engage as much but you can play adc Aka I'll be playing worse than all my teammates, ruining their game, because I'm not as good as them. If my top/jungle play is plat 4 level, and my adc level of play is maybe silver 2, that's more than a full tier difference. It would basically be "autofilled adc, first time kaisa" for many games. Would you do that? I'd have to lose many games in a row in order to get near my level of play, on my main role. Since positional ranking is not implemented, I can't queue up for adc on my main and be matched with similar skilled opponents. > for you, but what about the ppl who are new to ranked and you destroy their game? If I'm truly better than them on my new account, the new and improved provisional matches will get me out of their league soon enough. On the account I used for adc, I started off in bronze, bronze 2 even after my provisionals. I Climbed the ladder as I improved at the role. So I didn't ruin anyone's matches, because I was never matched with people who were worse than me, until I started climbing. Same for me when I'm gonna use this account to play zed only. I haven't touched zed in my life, I wouldn't destroy an iron 4 game as I would have no clue how to play the champ. As I learn I'll climb. You wouldn't hardcarry anything when you were playing a lane you never play, on a champion you never play. And you wouldn't take that into ranked on your main either, would you?
Tarolock (EUNE)
: and why cant you do any of that on your main? (apart from playing on a different server ofc) i dont really know whats the point of smurfs and none of the ppl on this boards ever convinced me that smurfs are good for the game...
Because I want to be able to play a new role or a new champ in a competitive setting. I can't suddenly start playing adc in soloqueue on my main, since I've always climbed with top or jungle, which I'm better at. If I'm say, plat 4 with top/jungle, and I start to play adc in ranked on my main, I'll feed and feed since I'm bad at that role. So if I have a lvl 30 account where I can start playing adc, and learning as I climb, it's a much smoother experience.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >What should I do on my new account? unpopular opinion but you should ask riot to delete it and go back to your main
Why is that? I have multiple smurfs, one i use to play ADC only and tried to get as high as I could with it. (currently gold 3), one I used to get ranked on EUNE, one I use to play normals with lower ranked friends who don't enjoy getting stomped on every day. I just want this one to be able to goof around a bit, while playing to win in ranked
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: how do you play udyr ?
So many comments, and ZERO Trick2G? Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuSrv3qgQA7SSi6R9bWag5A Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/Trick2g Watch this dude
DCCX93 (EUW)
: ***
Akaillusion (EUNE)
: What is the difference between ravenous hydra and titanic hydra?
Lifesteal, ability cancelling with active, more instant damage, area of effect damage around you
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Using this: https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Html/Merch/Images/c02499620_500x367.jpg Imo keyboards aren't a factor when it comes to gaming.
> [{quoted}](name=VIT Laati,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=14YIwlh2,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-22T07:07:45.039+0000) > > Using this: https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Html/Merch/Images/c02499620_500x367.jpg > > Imo keyboards aren't a factor when it comes to gaming. You're joking right
: Lets remove 14 days ban for toxic
Lowkey I agree with the first one
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: Lol advertising oneself so cheesy.
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: How can I stop laggin when a family member uses internet other room?
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