Leptyx (EUW)
: A stealthed champion should not be revealed/betrayed by its Aery or Arcane Comet
Stealth is a bad mechanic, it's like when you play the "slapsies" game, where one person tries to hit the other's hands. Stealth gives the players a reaction advantage over the other player which when combined with the damage these champions can put out it far to much of an advantage IMO.
: Why BE is so hard to get ??
I have 195k blue essence and nothing to spend it on. I'd much rather have Orange Essence!
Keyah (EUW)
: What do you like/dislike about the Ranked System in League?
For me, a lot of it seems to be Time Played == Higher Rank. I am barely gold, but have played with Plat friends and I perform on an equal level to those atleast usually. They get to play almost all day, I get to play 2 maybe 3 games a day if I'm lucky. Something in the system seems flawed to me, I had a great win streak which turned into a horrible lose streak. But the quality of players seemed to be a world apart. Playing games where people used pings, played as a team, communicated well etc, into games where the Twitch Jungler fed 2 early kills, afk'd, come back at 14 minutes to refuse the early surrender then flamed for 5 minutes. How a player with that attitude was in the same elo just seem's odd..
Shmoeggle (EUW)
: "Why am I playing vs you"
It feel's like there is almost 2 seperate leagues to me, one where people play well, work together as a team, communicate and are friendly. Then you enter the "we need to drag you back down league" where they are the same elo, but troll, afk, are toxic or seem to have no idea how to play safely etc. If I die once early, I know my opponent has an advantage, so I'll play much safer, let the wave push to me if needs be farm under turret. Wait for jungle/mid/top intervention and try to recoup the advantage. But when you see people die again and again and again, it makes you wonder how these people are in the same league as you. I don't know if that makes sense and I know I'm far from being the best at the game, but from my experience this season there is a world of difference between the players.
: Average of 85 farm at 15 minutes: what elo do i belong?
Take some custom games with no runes or items and practice last hitting with auto-attacks, then also try your abilities to get an idea of how best to wave-clear with your certain champion. 15 minutes, there's a possible 185~ cs.... so your under half.
FleaLess (EUNE)
: >the game is way too team depended wow a TEAM oriented game is depends on the TEAM?
A TEAM game, which you have no say or choice wether you play with them or not. If you get a troll in champ select and dodge, you get penalised and lose LP. It need's to be team based obviously but sometimes the teams just seem completely out of balance.
: You have draft / blind pick for fun. Ranked, you play to win.
PvP Games, regardless of game mode should be play to win. If you don't want to win, then play PvE games like call of duty story mode etc. It's even worse when people have the "don't care" attitude about ranked also lol.
: #justavideogame Seriously. It's just a game. If you win then yay if not then yay someone is better than you. I just get amused so hard when people take it like their life depends on it. Because it just doesn't.
I think you exagerate how much people care about it. I played 1 to 2 games an evening, after working full time, then settling my daughter for bed. When I play ranked, it's quite often with people who have no want to win the game. If you aren't a competetive gamer, then go play some PvE games, the hole principal behind these games is for competetive games. You wouldn't see a team in the World Cup, be like oh hey, lets play some random guy from the stands to see if he can win. E-Sports are becoming huge now and it's the same principal that it's a competetive game. Whilst I don't ever expect to break Gold, it would be nice if my time wasn't completely wasted. First time champs, in low elo are just their to int, much like trolling and afk, they have no desire to win the game. In all honesty, I stopped playing anywhere near as much since my last big lose streak. I climbed to gold3 near to gold2 promo, where I felt like I had a big impact in the game along with a team that wants to win. Then hit a huge lose streak and dropped to Gold5 0LP. First time Annie who doesn't understand the ability to use Q endlessly to get CS and has no interest in listening to you when you mention it. To a twitch jungle, who banned champs at champ select, then gave 2 early kills within first minute, then trolled everyone, went AFK until minute 19, came back just to refuse the surrender, then went afk again.
: Having a 4man premade on my team means enemy has 4-5 man premade too. While my team was busy "just %%%%ing around normal game man" their support came mid after adc could 1v2 and made it a 2v1 lane. So yeah it did affect my laning phase.
You have an example of this in your match history?
: People like you are whats wrong with this game, all you care about is your rank, which means nothing. Cause at the end of they day, either silver or diamond, you will be that same loser who'se life is this game.
Wow, that's a very broad assumption. I play 1 or 2 games an evening on the odd occassion, feel free to check my match history. But, if you play a competetive game, with no interest in being competetive then what's the point? Ranked is there to make you feel as if you are accomplishing something in the game, which in reality doesn't mean anything but that still doesn't mean people don't want to be competetive. Wether you are playing a game of football, a hand of poker, or an e-sport game there will always be competition. But I guess you never play ranked by the looks of your match history anyway, so who cares?
: No thanks ill play whatever i want in ranked, if you dont like it feel free to dodge. Why would i wanna practice in normals when every game is 4man premade picking grasp of undying veigar top and spamming "we are just %%%%ing around its a normal game" after every death.
Because you can still practice your abilities in lane, even if you are against a 4 man, it shouldn't affect your laning phase or the ability to learn the champions abilities and combo's. But I guess it's to each their own.
: STOP allowing first time champions in ranked.
Basic game mechanics only go so far, with someone like zed, you need to understand your all-in-potential, how to play with your W and R shadows, how to land the snare with your double E landing etc. It's not like you only need to right-click minions the entire game. I do think Riot don't take ranked games seriously enough. Trolls and AFK'ers should have a considerably longer ban in place to prevent them entering more ranked matches. You should gain atleast mastery3, before you can unlock a champion for ranked. Personally I go to leagueoflegends.wikia.com, read up on the abilities, take a few practice games, then some normal games etc. Before I use them in ranked. Maybe it is a low-elo only problem, I guess we have to try harder to climb. But when you see people first time a champion (Annie being a fun example), where they don't use the Q to last hit minions and score perfect CS and you reach the 20 minute mark and they only have about 80/100cs.......
: Nerf Kayle
If it's that's strong, why have you lost considerably more than you have won with Kayle?
VladCraft (EUNE)
: Stuck in silver, how do i get out ?
30 minute game, 142 cs. 4.7 cs per minute (out of 12/13). 272 on 43 minute game, 6.3 CS per minute. 163 on 31min game, 5.2cs per minute. Whilst you may be good at securing kills, your CS is terrible...... You need to increase your CS, you are probably to focus'd on kills instead of objectives, timing your CS waves to bounce. The game is more than just roaming lanes and securing kills, it's the small things which can make a huge difference.
: S Rank in Solo Q
The thing which I don't understand, this simply can't be a "one of time" these trolls do that. So how do they manage to get out of bronze5 when they do that? Is it just basic statistics saying that every now and then he will be on the winning team regardless as the enemy team may also have a troll? I had a great winning streak, Climbed to Gold4 58lp from Qualification after reset. Then dropped to Gold 5 0lp literally non-stop. Yes I may have played a part in some of the losses, but having a Twitch Jungle, who trolled from Champ select by banning a team mates highlighted champ, to feeding 2 early kills then going afk and only coming back at 19 minutes to refuse the early surrender...... How does a player like that, manage to get matched with high silver/low gold? I had many matches where the quality of players was just completely different to the quality on my winning streak.
LeonidPower (EUNE)
: When i play Kayle i almost never use my Q cuz it doesn't deal any dmg and it doesn't slow for that much it takes 2 much mana so thats why i buy Rylai's. Her W however is a bit better than her Q cuz the ms buff is nice but the healing is not that great that's all im gonna say.
Around 400dmg before resists isn't that bad, with a 55% snare for 3 seconds. Then 330 heal / 44% movement speed from W. Being able to keep them within your empowered auto range is great. Then you also have runaan's applying your passive and wits end on hit, you're removing a lot of armor/MR for your team to benefit from also. Stack that with a support like Lulu/Nami, giving you ardent buff. You can shred through enemies quite easily. Probably a different experience in plat/diamond elo, but silver/gold I find that to be the case.
LeonidPower (EUNE)
: rly why u think that ? i think her Q and W are pretty much useless
In my eyes, she's a hyper-carry. Doing both Melee and Magic damage, with her passive reducing their Armor and MR by 15%. Her Q, the slow seem's really effective especially if you build Rylai's to, you W for the speed boost, Q to snare at 650 range, then you auto them to death with Rylai's applying on your E. With {{item:3124}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3085}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3091}} {{item:3116}}, I find her to be a monster for her hyper carry potential. Or, if you partner her with an Strong AD Champ with on-hit especially, like Yi, Jax, Vayne or other ADC's, with ardent etc and her ult you can be an insane combo.
LeonidPower (EUNE)
: Kayle rework
Kayle is brilliant? Leave her well alone imo!
: Alistar can shove AND knockup same target?
Well, most dash's can be interupted by CC, you can knock Tristana out of Rocket jump etc. So it makes sense that pulverize interupts the headbutt dash. The only who who can't be interupted is Ezreals "blink" as far as I'm aware. But you're actually better off Flash-Pulverize, then headbutt the target back towards your team....
: Mf q cheese
It's fine, I see it fairly similar to Draven's Q, in that it needs a few things for it to be effective. You have to focus on your positioning, the enemy position and the creep health / position. Like Draven, if you just run around like a headless chicken, you lose your axe and lose your bonus damage. If you focus on your position and you time it right, for your enemy to position themself within the 30 degree? ricochet, then great. If I lane into MF, I always keep 90 degree to her and poke her when I can....
: What's the counter play to Cait?
Their team comp was just better than your's IMO. LB has great assassination potential with CC, obviously morgana Q with spell shield + ult. Udyr super fast movement speed with stun, cait with traps/50 calibre net. Even irelia has gap close + stun. Whereas you only really have Ekko stun if he can land it and maybe Lulu snare. The fact you were 32 / 39, it was a fairly close match. But you have built Berserker's greaves on Graves for what purpose? Why not Ninja Tabi? Kai'Sa's build looks pretty bad to me also.
looonster (EUW)
Well, technically when you reach your skill level and you are playing with equal opponents this would happen regardless. Although players like Caps etc prove that even then its not the case. But it's just strange how some games, it feel's like all of your opponents are friendly, know what they are doing, know how to CS, farm under turret, play to the advantage's, use TP to secure objectives etc. Then other matches, where it feel's like it's just a free-for-all for toxicity and feeding. I'm sure I'm not the only player who notices this. Having a team makes a huge difference, I'm find with being in gold, I know I'm never going to be a challenger lol. But when the games feel like they have been impacted severely by team mates it's hard to find fun in the ranked system. I get the law of averages means the enemy teams have as many problems as I do. But how these player's even make it out of bronze, when they have no interest in playing is beyond me.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: I know this may sound crazy, but what if matchmaking doesn't work around creating win streaks and losing streaks and you create them yourself? Like for example, you get a bit of bad luck, which makes you tilt, which in turn makes you perform badly and lose even more games. Eventually, you get way below your skill level so you get your win, just because you're that much better. This begins your win streak. If you create a losing streak, it will be followed by a win streak. Ideally, you should be able to recognize those losing streaks and cut them short before they get out of hand.
I thought this at first, but I generally don't let things get to me. Most of the games I still tried to win and remained positive. But the communication and toxicity of my team mates seemed completely different. I can't remember the games exactly, but 1 that sticks in mind was a Twitch jungle, where at champ select he banned one of the team's highlighted champ. He then fed 2 kills, first at enemy blue at the start of the game, then bot lane. He then went AFK at 5 minutes, came back later just to refuse to surrender and was verbally abusive at the base. This behaviour, is clearly noticeable. But the games before, you can tell when your team mates are wanting to win and play together. There was a clear difference.
: > [{quoted}](name=Proppa,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=uKQHEnaz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-03T06:25:10.443+0000) > > And he has 1000 range on all abilities and isn't affected by CC at all.... he's a LOL GOD?!?!?! dont forget his INSANE mobility
That insta-teleport to enemy champion ability so he can land his 3 empowered auto's is just op'd right?!
Juill (EUNE)
: Stupid winstreak/loss streak game
I felt the same and have stopped playing for the last 3 weeks because of this. I go from Qualifications after season reset Silver4, Climb quickly to Gold3 80LP, then feel like I'm matched with Bronze players and drop to Gold5 0lp literally losing about 15 matches in a row spread across about 2 week period, I lost then would play aram/normal, then try ranked again later/another day and had the same problem. The team mates just seem to be of a completely different standard from my winning streak to my losing streak.
: why is mordekaiser not removed yet
And he has 1000 range on all abilities and isn't affected by CC at all.... he's a LOL GOD?!?!?!
: I've been wondering how challenger / master plays average 10 CS per minute.
Also, it's no good for example... if you take the top turret, then your team wants to push bot lane/dragon, but your ADC Roams top to take the CS. You have teleport and are able to enter into a fight at a moments notice, the ADC would need to run the entire map to help the team fight.
: Does anyone got any fun off-meta builds to suggest?
Foxynerdy (EUW)
: Need tips on LuLu
I like the Font of Life - Revitalize option, your ADC does increased damage when you snare the enemies, whilst revitalize makes your shields stronger. W with summon aery counts as shield, so also procs ardent censer, then E also shields. Also, W increases attack/movement speed, so you can use your adc to poke more. Similar to how Janna grants AD boost with her shield, works better if the ADC is a poker..
Proppa (EUW)
: How are ranked match players determined?
Semi-Pro players will be able to carry. But the toxicity just drags you down. Now, I don't expect to be platinum/diamond. But, when I play games with great team mates all who are helpful I win so much more. Yet there are players in the same ELO, who just seem to just want to throw the matches. I don't understand how or why I seem to be getting placed with them so frequently these last few matches. The games with great team mates, we won easily, I would always be ahead in kills, ahead in CS and ping objectives, take turrets etc. Those games were fun. I understand that being on a 10-lose streak, will tilt my attitude, but I always play to win. But in a game the other day, we killed 3 of the enemy team, we ping Baron. We start, the JUNGLER goes bot lane, (Udyr), then the enemy jungler steals. Now, we should have pulled off if we knew the enemy jungler was alive, but it was a free baron. My last game, the Vel'koz first time playing that champion, he LITERALLY wanted ot throw, he would just cast spells at the nexus and run around in circles, calling for FF every time. How are these player's in gold ELO and why do I seem to be getting matched with them so frequently at the moment. I mean, I'm happy reaching gold given my play time etc. But I'm about to get demoted back to Silver due to my losing streak from having 50+LP in Gold4. It just doesnt make sense.
Rioter Comments
TheCrazyBoy (EUNE)
: This season is evil
I feel the same, I climbed to Gold4, 50+LP. Now, I'm on a 10 losing streak. Took a game this evening, the Vel'koz fed kata 5 early kills, then AFK'd, pressed ULT at the Nexus etc, also saying it's his first time Vel'Koz, and he's just playing around. This has happened in literally my last 10 games, before that I had great fun, great teams etc. It feels like you get a good streak, then Riot decide to match you with all of the toxic players in the game, to put you on a losing streak. I'm going back to PUBG for a bit lol.
Rismosch (EUW)
: I am done with ranked.
I'm in the same boat, seemed to climb easily to gold4. Had team mates who were friendly, polite and wanting to win. Now on a 9 game losing streak where the players seem completely different. They aren't interested in communication or playing as a team. My last game, the Udyr spent more time farming than anything else. We killed 3, moved to Baron...Udyr went botlane, enemy junlger stole baron. I go mid to defend, udyr goes bot lane, we lose mid turrets etc... Just seem's like completely different level of players.
FreeKillFTP (EUNE)
This isn't a one-time thing you've done, if you contact them they can provide you with the logs to show you that.....
: Better stats then last 10 games team mates
I sort of feel the same, I had a bunch of matches, climbed to Gold4 58LP. Each match the games felt close, the teams played together well, no int'ing, no trolling, good communication. Then I hit a streak of 8 losses, one game we had a mid victor and an Irelia top, the irelia top was 0/3 by the first 10 minutes, but the Viktor kept abusing me for some reason, even though I was equal/ahead in CS and hadn't died in lane. Literally each game, the team felt completely different and far more toxic than the last 20 games I played. Sometimes it feel's as though Riot matches you up with these kind of trolls just to tilt you. I haven't played ranked since and lost enthusiasm in the game completely at the moment.
Proppa (EUW)
: Nami / Lulu are solid also :D
Nami is great paired with champs like Varus (and Nami can also be played as ADC with Leona Support, great fun). But if Varus ult, Nami knockup, then followup with ult its a dead champ. Lulu effectively has 6 spells, Q the damage/snare, W the Polymorph or attack speed/movement speed buff, E the damage or Shield then the ult.......
: Who is a good AP-Ranged support to start?
Nami / Lulu are solid also :D
: for this meta you will need to play tank top, so you could have strong front line for your adc. so a fed top wouldn't do much.
But it's all about the engage, if your team has no tank then I find you always struggle with engages 5v5. If the enemy team has a tank, who can soak up some damage whilst the rest of your team engages, compared to something like a bruiser, who engages but can get instantly destroyed whilst the rest of the team doesn't engage. If you have a tank, you need to push with him, if you don't then you need to be able to poke safely etc.
: she did actually but still something you can counter, you can do something about it. mid top or jg are countable. It's the botlane, like I can't do anything about it later. It's just overpowered
Then you aren't doing it right, you can suppress the ADC with Warwick, but if your team doesn't synergise with you and follow up on the execute, or they play well and thresh hooks/flays you away from the ADC whilst Blitz hooks the poppy. Without seeing your matches it's hard to say, but ADC are there to do damage, if they get a lane advantage, they can freeze the lane and farm up safely whilst harassing the enemy bot lane. But the mechanics apply to all lanes, if an top-lane tank gets ahead, he can easily bully the enemies out of lane....
: yea you are right, even tho we took bot tower and did manage to feed the midlaner, It's still nearly impossible to counter a fed ADC. what I'm saying is one lane shouldn't decide the whole game.
I would disagree, a good player can make a huge difference. A good support, who actually want's to support makes the world of difference. An AP Lux will do very little apart from a bit of extra damage, but will have a huge lack of gold income when it comes to building damage items. If Blitz misses his hook, but thresh land's his hook.... TF Ult's and land's his gold card, along with Poppy TP. It's hard to say without being able to spectate your matches, but yes, ADC is exactly that a Carry, if the team looks after the ADC he should carry his team to victory. I've had games where I've had morgana support, who only wanted to take the kills, who never gave me black shield, or exhausted targets on me etc. It all makes a difference.
You gave an early kill to Poppy in your 10/8/8, which probably set Darius behind? Their botlane is premade by the looks of it your's wasn't. Your support isn't a support main, their's seems to be support main. So many factor's make a huge difference. MF seemed to be doing ok early game, killed Yi, you killed Jinx, MF killed Thresh, you killed Jinx. But Jinx will always scale later game compared to MF. But I'm assuming the Poppy started being able to make an impact in other lanes?
Look at your last game that I can see where you played Warwick and was 7/5/10. Look at your team's build, look at the enemy builds. Lux with Zhonya, building Morelli, no support items. Thresh, Locket, Knights Vow, Darius only with Cleaver, dead mans plate, spirit visage. The builds/comps play a much bigger part. With a premade like "She is Bad, He is Worse", just rings alarm bells. 127 CS vs Draven's 219, nearly 100cs difference.
I find it rarely has anything to do with the lane, but how well the team's synergise with each other. I've had matches, where I was ahead bot lane, but enemy top lane was also ahead. Enemy top lane TP to bot with jungler and just tower dived me and the support and took another turret with ease. If the team plays well, knows how to co-ordinate or can "predict" what their team will do so it's easier to assist them that's what I find makes the difference.
: Which adc do you recommend me to play?
Erm, Tristana/Cait have escape tools (Ezreal to but bleh), Varus has his ult for good engage/disengage. Or Ashe for the perma-slow?
Eleken90 (EUW)
: Kayle Rework
Please don't touch Kayle! She is such a powerful champion lol.
: Recommended items in store, or I'd use a guide.
So no Guinsoo / Runaans/ Wits / BOTRK / etc?
: How the hell do I even get better?
Also, what on earth are you building on Varus item wise :o
: How the hell do I even get better?
Pick a lane, pick a champion or 2 for that role and practice. Look on sites like http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Legends_Wiki for information on the champs, get a good understanding of your abilities. Get a good understanding of the items you can buy and what you are buying them into (Check the scoreboard, to see what your enemy is building), penetration/crit etc. Take custom games, take no runes, and practice last hitting minions. Some games it looks like your trolling, double ohmwrecker on varus? So change your attitude also perhaps. So many possible options ....
superR93 (EUW)
: win = 17 LP . lose = 21 LP
Flex or Solo queue ?
: What support to pick so i can carry games.(i suck at hooks)
As an ADC main, nothing tilts me more than having a mage support who plays it like a mid-lane champ, takes kills, sometimes CS and doesnt bother buying ward items etc.....
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