: Everybody playing co-op vs AI seen this, and it won't gonna change because Bot accounts inflate playerbase and make league more attractive for sponsors.
And every one of those are accounts purchased by someone once they reach 30, if they paid for that they are not going to have a problem paying for their favorite skins and other stuff on their new accounts. This is a massive cash cow for Riot: people rebuying all their stuff over and over on new leveled/boosted accounts.
: Newbies placed in Iron4 => nobody will buy 30lvl accounts for trolling. Literally every troll I see is the guy with fresh account like 10-20 games in ranked, with ridiculous MMR of gold player and WR like 24-36%
If they paid for the leveling up, they'll pay for the boosting elo. Or the boosting to silver will be included in the account prize. There's already plenty leveling up by bot, and elo boosting by pro. Right now they are independent. Place everybody in Iron4, and they'll go together as people demand their accounts are elo boosted upon purchase.
Ch0pCh0p (EUW)
Known bug, play more, buy more skins, thanks.
: What is the logic behind this? Any sources from RIOT? I could understand a rank or two difference but not a while division...
From Riot you'll get nothing but smoke, it's not on their interest you knowing exactly how any of their systems work, otherwise you'd learn to avoid/exploit them. In this instance, maybe you were winning too many too quick, and had to be stopped? Forced back to 50% winrate?
: Matchmaking issues resulting in large skill disparity
Morrhen (EUW)
: Hello? How about you do some research before you blatantly waste people's time here. Senna is getting nerfed in 9.24 Q damage reduced. Mist drops reduced for solo lane. W duration decreased Ult AP ratio increased by 0.1
I guess they already cashed in all the money they guessed they'd be getting with new broken op champ sales. Let's see what happens with the next one.
Ellada (EUW)
: My background still appears on every person in my friendslist
Change your background to whatever you think the person whose profile you're going to visit would like, every time you plan to check a profile ^^
: Riot matchmaking sucks balls
New anime skins soon, though.
: I totally get where you are coming from with these views. And they make complete sense to me . But that is not my main point. I'm trying to understand the motives behind resetting honor levels with just a simple ban. And by resetting honor levels --------> not competing in clash/not receiving end of season rewards etc. What i realised right now though is that , I've just gone full circle , because if Riot wants the game to be toxic resetting honor levels is the best way to do it.
Because the choices are doing something or doing nothing. They rather do something, even if it doesn't help, than do nothing and be apparent they don't. That's why the report, the ban, the matchmaking, the mmr... are all so shady, always shrouded in mystery, with Riot refusing to give details and stating things that are patently not true by experience. They don't know what they are doing, but they rather do anything at all than nothing at all. It's all about the show.
xAqaaya (EUW)
: Banned for underperforming because of lag?
I watched the replay of this particular match, and not only you fed on purpose on several occasions, you spent the match avoiding your team (not a single team fight or objective), stealing all the camps on your side of the match away from your jungler, moved all across the map with 20% hp in order to push solo overextending until you got killed... You were clearly griefing, so like someone said in the other thread, you can stop lying already. If only the ban system was always this good.
: Exactly. New fresh account should start there.
People buying new lvl30 accounts also pay to get them elo boosted. The placement doesn't matter to these people, they'll just pay a bit more to get them where they want. Riot only bans them after they've spent some money in skins. This gets you banned from boards.
: Another schmuk bites the dust
Careful, last time I brought this stuff up, I got a ban from the boards.
: Mastery Levels
So you want to flex on people when you do something skillful, by showing an emote bought with currency instead of earned being skillful like it is now. Wat.
: Match up issues
You have to be brought down to the 50% winrate, so after some wins the system rigs it for you to lose. Such is LoL.
Taroth (EUW)
: "Mastery Undefined" Issue
Rhetorical question?
: What about a Punishment tab in League Client that shows you all your report feedbacks?
> [{quoted}](name=College Failed,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=52wweiIY,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-06T11:35:15.023+0000) > Riot's reasoning to why not show every single punishments your reports did to other players was that they don't want to spam us with this informations, so the Instant Feedback Notification popup window only appears every once in a while. This is one of those things Riot says. You report a zero-tolerance word, see how quick you get an instant feedback message, and notice the offender doesn't play any more matches for at least 2 weeks. INSTANTANEOUS. The fact is most of your reports do NOTHING in the automated system. Those not in verbal or hate speech are virtually useless. But Riot doesn't want you to clearly see through the report system, doesn't want you to understand they do nothing against people that require manual review to be punished, doesn't want you to realize trolling is free.
: Mastery lvl bug
It's been going on for months, but you'll need to play MORE to compensate for it, so the bug is overall profitable for Riot and not likely to be fixed just yet.
: player agression
Not everyone... I only get salty when people do this in ranked. Because there's two modes, and normal is for fun and testing, and ranking is to compete. And I think most people understand this... Why they get mad in normal, or short of troll when picking in ranked, are different questions.
Rioter Comments
MatthewiO (EUNE)
: Matchmaking
You were winning too much.
: > [{quoted}](name=PurpleOrk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Hxk3vpME,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T05:48:29.096+0000) > > Armor / mag res no longer have any effect? They only have an effect if you actually BUY the armour or MR, and the majority of players below Diamond are more concerned with building as much damage as possible regardless of the teamcomps. The OP is a classic example of this. Looking through the match history and in the last 20 matches on Vayne, the only defensive item he has built was a spirit visage. No QSS, NO GA, always building beserker's greaves even when faced with a team consisting of Elise, Nasus, Jhin and Thresh.
Isn't Elise 80% mag dmg?
: Do you trust the matchmaking system?
I trust it to screw me 50% of the times, like clockwork.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lippoutou Club,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Hxk3vpME,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T03:38:28.868+0000) > > This isn't their own champion, they are all champions of the game. Ad mid laners are meant to be situational, otherwise everyone in front of you buy armor and it can become a pain way more easily than a mixed damage team. > > And I think that when you decide to play mid you shouldn't have one champion, three or four seem to be the minimum for me. The only thing sadder than a meta-sheep is a meta-sheep that still follows a meta that is no longer relavent. The days of mages only in the mid lane and marksman only in the bot lane are long gone.
Armor / mag res no longer have any effect?
: « U ban my champ »
I'm with you on this one.
: The banning system is a joke (again)
Always keep your chat disabled in-game. Otherwise, ban, ban, BAN.
: Dear Riot - Can you punish AFK more please?
While I am all for increasing the punishment of people that deserve to be punished, because the game needs to get rid of a lot of people, or at least force them to behave... The biggest problem here is that their client is SO BAD, the moment I'm risking losing MORE lps and extra punishment due to a bugsplat at loading or a lagging champ select or a lag out... I am myself quitting LoL.
: Dodge.
This is basically all YOU can do. Dodge. Or if you stay, report them at the end (if you like wasting whatever the match lasts, the lps, and an extra minute writing the report or several writing a ticket, because it's unlikely Riot is doing anything about them). Don't let them get to you, because the moment you say in-chat two or three key words to trigger the automated system, YOU are banned... specially if there are more than one of them together reporting you. Now Riot? THEY could do a lot more than this. You have to wonder why they won't crack down on trolls, griefers and inters.
Just Cat (EUW)
: not many. save up BE i had over 100k and after essence emporium i still got 20k over, buying champs with rp is not smartits still not worth it money wise
Lot of people here are casuals with 100 games a year, smurfs and alts bought already boosted to 30. Most have no problem spending real money in new (broken) champions when they are not swimming in blue essence like we are.
: League of legends account suspended
Didn't I predict this new method for getting your enemies perma'd yesterday?
PurpleOrk (EUW)
: What's with bots now?
I was fully expecting 4 bots, that's why I pick a carry instead of testing champions, and play beginners to quickly win 1v5. My question was more "what is up with all 4 being disconnected at the beginning"? Are they being hosted together from a single server or something like that? How can they make it easier for Riot to shut them down by block? Ah, that's right, they won't get banned until they are sold to someone, and they get a good bunch of skins?
: Stop releasing new champions this fast-paced. New champion (after Aphelios) already announced.
Zhnjpkaa (EUNE)
: Thoughts about matchmaking
Matchmaking is rigged to hinder your progression and force you to play more, instead of allowing you to achieve your deserved rank quickly, stagnate, and play less. The more you play, the closer you'll get to an artificially forced 50% winrate. As time passes, more stable your rank becomes. Either you flash into a good rank quick, or you get hardstuck in elo hell forever.
Rioter Comments
: No grade after games
Because you'll have to play MORE to achieve whatever you're aiming for. A bug that gets you to play more instead of less? No rush to fix.
Hansiman (EUW)
: Chat restrictions hold a very high reform rate. In the past, there were smaller time bans for accounts punished with verbal toxicity, but it was swapped out with chat restrictions since more players reformed. That doesn't mean everyone will, but enough to warrant the use of this penalty. --- > 2nd, Most people who get a CR just end up trolling the games they are in. I'll need a source for this statement. It doesn't sound realistic. --- > 3rd, I have proved this before, and if needed, I will prove it again (when I have the time), CR's are given out based on the QUANTITY of reports you receive. I I don't see any evidence in your statement. If quantity of reports were what matters, you'd see tons of cases where people were punished with clean logs. We don't see this though, suggesting it's the behavior displayed that counts. --- > 4th, Once you are CR'd, your account goes to '0' honour No, it goes to honor 1. If you're already at honor 1 when you get a chat restriction, then it's set to 0. But that means you've been punished at least twice. --- > and it's impossible to get back thus you cannot earn rewards and so, like point 2, why would you bother trying to win games if you cannot get rewards. If you don't improve your behavior, you won't climb in honor. Those that do improve, climb back.
The only reform value of the ban system is players getting hit by flaming when someone ruins their matches, switch to ruining other people's games by inting/griefing/trolling instead of flaming (as not to get chat restricted and honor locked again), starting the cycle for someone else. In the end, you have a lot less flaming, sure, but the game is rapidly abandoned by anyone more concerned with ACTUAL GAMEPLAY than having a "clean" chat, effect that could've been easily reproduced by using the mute feature. Oh, and considering how quickly premades get you banned if you antagonize them, there's only a limited number of people believing what Riot says about number of reports having the same effect as a single one, as it is clearly to muddle things up, in order to avoid having people clearly understanding how the automated system works and more easily exploiting/avoiding it.
Bæka (EUW)
: You know Riot has different teams right? The champion and skin designers can't fix the client.
You can allocate money/resources into different teams according to what is needed, instead of purely of what generates more money, I think was his point.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=kappaclism,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qzG8yGkI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-26T11:56:17.046+0000) > > Why I am not surprised Riot screws over their players... Riot support is totally separate from the company, you guys seem to put everyone on the same Pot, every single employee from the office has NOTHING to do with player support, they have different roles like: art, music, concept, management, animation, sound FX etc. Now when it comes down to support, Riot has specifically hired 3rd parties to take care of that matter, if there's someone to blame, then it's the support manager overseeing the activity (or supposed to), you cannot blame Riot as a company or every of it's own employees since they have nothing to do about it. Thus i feel the pain of your sittuation, it's never a good thing to see people getting special or different treatment.
Billion dollar indie company can't be blamed for who they hire to work for them, as they can only afford to hire a few street urchins that can't do any better than this... Riot has one of the worst records in bad decision making in the gaming industry. If it wasn't LoL they got their hands on, but any other game, they'd be homeless right now.
Wabbler (EUW)
: IP Farming Bots are on the Rise again
Money. So much money in this.
: Just had a thought.
Because it's easier to give the appearance that you're moderating your game by using an automatic bot system to pick up key words and ban without context, than actually looking into negative behavior impacting the gameplay. But so many people in the boards will defend this, like muting wasn't possible. They wouldn't have survived 5 minutes in a 1st person shooter a couple years ago.
Forsan (EUW)
: hahaha , just send this to support, he will get perma banned for sure
1. Access your account from a new device/network. 2. Use your RP to send gifts to your hated enemy. 3. Submit a ticket to support. The player of your choosing is now permanently banned xD
: Played against this abomination earlier today
If he ints really, REALLY hard, so hard it's noticeable just by looking at his kda in match history, maybe in a couple of months.
Broeng (EUW)
: After game score calculation unable to calculate score.
It's not your client, it's their tracking. It's an issue on their end, and unlikely to get fixed as long as keeps people playing more to compensate.
Sethoxyde (EUW)
: If you think that i deserved that -20 lp, i just want to tell u that i could have happened to u. I'm not blaming the matchmaking system, but no1 does anything bout the trolls. But i guess we all remember that 'support Teemo' dude who got ban actually for playing and having a full afk team who were flaming him, aint we? rito cares only dia+ games, and 0 'stuns' are given for that gold elo in which im apparently hardstuck. I mean I'm doing everything possible to win and yet i lose with 4 apes in my team. Actually that's the reason u 'higher elo guys' keep calling me 'hardstuck' Once again, rito should start punishing trolls, cuz they know no1 cares bout that elo and they can do whatever they want. And lets dont talk bout that 'adc heimer' dude who kept telling me i'm a useless fwck even though i carried bot solo.
What is sarcasm? And report/ban and matchmaking are very closely related issues here. Think about it.
Sethoxyde (EUW)
: League of Legends Match History
LoL matchmaking is apparently one of the best in the world, I don't know what you could possibly be talking about.
e1337j0ck (EUW)
: I'm glad I'm not the only one but surely there must be a fix, right? There's got to be. It's really unfair. I'm hoping, through this post, for some resolution. Fingers crossed. e1337j0ck
I keep telling, this is the kind of bug that makes you play more to compensate, and as such will still be there come season 20. Same as the vods bug forcing you to watch more esports. By the way, this is not a client issue to fix with a patch (there have been at least 4 since I started seeing it), it's a tracking issue on their servers or whatever. It's not just that you don't get it visually displayed, the progression they keep of your champs on their side remains frozen, besides of tokens or chests not being granted... They could hot fix this without patching anything, dev'ing it up on their side.
Gin5Alive (EUW)
: What the hell did they do to Tahm Kench?
Nerf Tahm Kench was the new nerf Irelia. They always do stuff like this to look like they care and listen.
: > [{quoted}](name=Smurfinbreh,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=98mFFwQq,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-24T16:54:37.163+0000) > > OR - change how they are punished so bots will be unnecessary. Permanent mute, or IP bans (yes i know there are ways around it, but many people arent that savvy with it). Require some sort of identification to even make an account... The problem is Riot's approach, it only perpetuates the problem. They need to think outside the box and be creative, not use an account ban, and think that did ANYTHING. OR, fix the problems that make people so toxic in the first place.
Like a terrible matchmaking frustrating people until they say a bad word and get banned while blatant trolls and griefers get away with everything? I agree.
Leebac (EUW)
: Starting to be little frustrating
Let's see if I can say this without "inciting conflict" or "mocking" nobody in particular, so that they feel they have to remove my messages and ban me again! The matchmaking is designed to hinder your progression so you play more, instead of achieving your deserved rank quick, stagnate and play less as a result. That's why you get a forced 50% winrate, most matches decided by luck on the player distribution. It IS very frustrating indeed, but if you point it out you'll be quickly shot down here.
Majordx (EUW)
: Maybe players wont agree with this but i think solo que should be solo.Not duo.Im 100% sure that this will fix a lot for solo que. They can at least try it out.With evry year solo que becomes unstable as hell.
Or have the chance to opt out of games with premade duos. It's a death sentence, and to aggravate things, they block the surr vote together and keep you hostage.
: I got trolled and flamed during a game and also got chat restriction
Yeah, you said a few words that would trigger the automatic system filter, the context doesn't matter. The hilarious part is that griefers like this go unpunished as long as they keep the chat clean, if he flamed he's getting a chat restriction just like you, like if the offense was the same.
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