stooyanovv (EUNE)
: ''TANKS'', '' SUPPORTS'' AND RIOT BALANCE TEAM (MONKEYS)
Garen Renek and Dari aren't tanks. Garen and Darius are "juggernauts" (bruisers with high dps and hp, but no gap closing, so anyone getting in range for them or a team comp with no cc can only blame themselves for that) while renekton is a bruiser and can get blown up pretty easily early to mid game if he lets key targets live for even seconds. I doubt that a zyra with support item and zhonya deals more damage than a 2-slotted midlaner, especially if they get a rabadon. Of course, if you compare a zyra combo to xerath missing all his abilities then zyra looks busted af for sure yeah. And I don't know what ADCs you're playing, but pretty much any adc can carry decently after zeal item+IE, and add another damage item (and armor pen later for tanks) on the menu and you should be shredding anyone that isn't jumping/flashing on you to blow you up. As for the meta... yeah, that's the price for an evolving game. Do you think champs from 6 years ago can even keep up today if they weren't balanced and updated? Bite the bullet and learn a new champ or two, or get good enough with what you're playing now.
dino0 (EUW)
: Permabans should only be applied to scripters/Hacks Simple riot should have a system to help reform player who got banned over toxic behaviour! And yes i know about the experiment that ran in Na were there such experimente and it was horrendous. There should be a way to atleast tranfer your "skins" into a new account simple. I understand your pain, i had over 800 euros and almost 2.700 hours of in game play wich is kinda around 112 day of straight play (around 4 whole months) Right now i give nothing to riot cause i wont ever trust them again, i play the game i get out, from me riot wont do another cent and its better this way, on my way to honor 4-1 stage , i just dont give a flying f about the game if we win or lose i ma just gona play like i want.
So people who int get a free pass? People who hard troll? People who spam the chat with flame and tilt the team into playing worse? You get to play the game, but you don't get to be an asshole or childish or you get punished by the fullest extent riot can do. There's no reason for them to let you keep your champs or skins, what'd you even lose then? Your summoner name and your match history? Now that's a harsh punishment for real.
Xzall (EUNE)
: How can I see what champions do if I don't own them?
YouTube, sadly. I know riot has 4 projects being made at once and all, but someone please start making better in-client descriptions!
: My regular request to remove premades from ARAM or create a separate queue for them is here.
Ratatouka (EUW)
: ivern gets less gold and exp than other junglers
Skip krugs, go check enemy buffs (with your smite up) and get even more. But it is true that balancing it out would be nice.
Denchik13 (EUW)
: GIVE ME BACK MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Oh, don't worry, you can speak your mind. Just don't be surprised when you get muted by your allies and deplatformed for people thinking what you're saying isn't worth hearing. You can say whatever you want, but if you're going to use that to be toxic then you're going to get the boot. I'd post the cartoon people often refer to when discussing FoS like this, but I sadly don't have it at hand.
Denchik13 (EUW)
: why am i having restrictions to speak my mind WITH OUT PRIOR NOTICE
"I have the GIRTH to punish players verbally for playing badly!" Gets banned by RIOT, wich is owned by a Chinese company, for trying to be a chat vigilante. Denchiik13: *Surprised pikachu face*
: Thats not true at all, totally false you're clearly a novice in this matter. I have gotten over 8 accounts permanently suspended. I bean with contact with the riot support frequently each time i received a restriction. Just search in the boarder "bansystem". You can get banned for anything, in speciell and I mean rely speciell occasions the rioters will unban you
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/
Rioter Comments
: A skin pls
Doesn't noc already have a decent red/black skin? And the model is likely to get updated before next skin for him, or at least I hope.
Mr Perica (EUNE)
: Question for you
Hey OP, my personal suggestion is to just play the odd game of support. It's not a hard role and you have plenty of powerful picks you can choose from that can help you out. At the start of the filled queue you can always ask your team if anyone wants to swap, if your adc is good with laning with a brand, veigar, malph... As a support (if you really don't want to play someone with good peel, enchanting, etc.) and act accordingly. It won't kill you to play one every few games, but it's a necessity for keeping the system running smoothly. If only support mains played support then the number of games would drop dramatically as for every supp player there's surely at least a few mid/top laners queuing. But hey, if that doesn't work for you you can always think back to the old days of free for all first pick mid last pick support.
: why did mordekaiser got buffed again
I'm guessing because of the crash in winrate about 2 patches ago, he's pretty balanced as is though.
LooLx79 (EUNE)
: Do you guys like the duration on the root u get from Morg's q?
Well, first off it's a root not a stun, so you can still cast spells and attack so long it doesn't involve you moving. Second off, the projectile speed, hitbox and range are pretty fair I'd say. The speed is just enough to catch anyone who doesn't strafe, but it isn't really a surprise if it hits you, unlike some hooks. The main thing I'd be concerned about is the damage, because it can chunk a hefty part of your hp and leave you out of position. Not to mention it doesn't go through creeps. Just keep moving and keep an eye out for it, but if you're adc maybe a quicksilver stash is a good investment midgame.
: New Tiers Destroyed Ranked
It has always been like that. Don't know what spurred this wall of text but the new ranked system doesn't involve anything other than the new tiers. The matchmaking is the same, the players are the same, now it only matters what role you focus on.
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: *Not needed *Not needed *Could be interesting, but both maps are quite cramped already *Would only lead to more ARAM accounts *Examples? Like the Poro King mode? *Most of the mission we had were possible to complete in ARAM
Firstly, riot kinda made changes that did away with "ARAM accounts", i.e. by making the pool based on the past n free rotations, if I remember correctly. BUT I do agree that it is pointless since aram is... random... Secondly, I think that all the first 3 points would all be validly interesting, but unnecessarily sap resources from the rift.
: What to do when your jungler dies 13 times in 26 minutes? (Ranked)
Play it out, worst case scenario you get to practice playing from behind and try out a whacky build or two, best case scenario you win and you gain LP.
PsychoGO (EUNE)
: So a game appeared in my match history that I have never played. rito wut.
I'd just preventively change the password if I were you, no reason to leave it to a case of "sleep playing" league
: Man ,in this game if you flame you get chat restriction ,if you dont nobody is gonna help you maybe on your region is better ,but on my region is a full bag of shit,trust me full of under age kids that trolls and flames you
If you don't flame I'm pretty sure more people would gank. I.e. if YOU were jungle and your toplane was like "Holy shit jgl pls be useful and come top and camp" I'd be pretty sure that you'd think the dude was an asshole who can't win lane and you wouldn't wanna help him. BUT if your top was like "Yo dude this darius is wrecking my ass, come gank and let's put him down" you'd probably be down for it. Just keep your cool and play it out, farm under tower, try outplaying their dude when he makes the mistake of diving you or if he overstays at low hp and you'll do better than flaming the jungler. Some games you just gotta take the L and hope the rest of your team will haul your ass and win.
: Reports
Yes, the matchmaking is somewhat of a you win some you lose some, but flaming the bad teammates you get won't help either. Just deal with it, everyone else is and they can climb (for the most part)
: getting perma banned
Oof, this is a damn pain to hear. While I do agree that you yourself are responsible for your account security, I think that riot support is becoming more and more beurocratic, and that's sad to see...
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: probably when you stop acting like a spaghetti yourself. League has so many variables it is not even funny. 1) Content changes at minimum monthly, sometimes even faster. 2) Meta shift of popular and unpopular champions 3) Balancing and rebalancing, only to get hit by a broken ass bug that instakills everything(there have been a few of those) 4) Fix a bug, another bug appears. 5) To rewrite the whole god damn architecture, you'd have to tear it down. This would mean, while they rewrite everything, the league would be inaccessible. NO GAMES, NO VIDEOS, NO STREAM, NOTHING. Game would literally stop existing. So instead, doing partial rewrite overtime, while takes longer, is also safer. That however means there are bound to be bugs when codes dont play nice with each other
I get what you mean, but I think you're overdramatizing the 5th example. League has a pbe and a live build, what'd stop them from making a rebuild build to get the game onto a more modern operating standard. I'm sure they've done it before (and I'm not saying they HAVE to do it, since I know that it's definately not going to be easy, cheap or fast) in some form to integrate new concepts, like stealing abilities, identities, whatever you call tahm kench eating you...
: You can get permabanned for 1 word?
Yes. LPT: Just don't say stuff you wouldn't tell a random stranger on the street to anyone in any case, it probably won't make a difference, and definitely not a good one.
T00Late (EUNE)
: Bring back season 8
Season 8? You're way off, by twice as much as it should be.
: Sure it did. I am a player, I am a paying customer here, since 2010. I have given more than $2200 to Riot games, supporting the company, buying their IRL merch, and ingame content as well. The incident caused harm to me, personally in the following ways : * Made me lose faith in the company I supported. * I am an in-game collector. Having piles of skins gives me a feeling of in-game accomplishment. The whole incident made me realise that all my virtual content - it basically means nothing. * Left me with an overall bitter taste in my mouth. I was hoping more from Riot. It impacted Riot in the following ways : * I have stopped spending money on their game, and IRL merch. * I am playing less and less since the incident. Something changed in me ... I can't look the same at the game any more. Sadly I don't like LOL as much, as I did before. YES - I do know that I am only one player. YES - I do understand that me not spending any more money has 0 impact in the "big picture". And YES - I do realise that me quitting has zero effect on the overall player-base. I have just given you my 2cents, on how this whole incident comes to "IMPACT PLAYERS" - on a personal level.
I will start off by saying this: you are the ideal consumer and the reason why companies are making more and more predatory practices of monetization. The fact why you feel upset about the event isn't because you think riot "had no backbone", but because you saw people who probably spent barely a dime on the game get lucky and get more DIGITAL merch than you'd ever spend money for. And personally, I think it's completely reasonable to feel that way. This is the initial reaction of anger over loss, envy, that someone got something more than you, more "in-game accomplishment" for nothing other than being plain lucky. We both know riot wouldn't hesitate for a moment to revert these changes if they were easy to do, but fact is that it took a lot of time and manpower to do it (probably), hence why the staggered schedule. In this time you only got more and more anxious about this "unfair" situation. It's the ideal example of "Either you get a million and the neighbour you couldn't care less about 5 times more, or neither get anything". I personally would feel glad that these players got this stuff that cost riot absolutely nothing (because the likelyhood of them buying this many bundles would probably be minute) and that riot would learn from the mistake. The only thing I see differently about riot now is that I know that they won't let blunders like these go and just let the lucky few keep the stuff, but that someone made a mistake and was probably fired for it too. Anyways, that's really all I have on my mind, but please, do tell me what more you were expecting from riot, and how exactly this lead you to not liking lol as much as you did. Was it because of the realization that your money wasn't well spent, or because of thinking that your "pride and accomplishment" was devalued from the experience?
Smerk (EUW)
: only few thousands got anything during that time. it's not as big of a deal as many try to show
True, but the fact that it happened and riot didn't have the oversight to even snapshot accounts before patches just in case something happened. In this case, I'll swallow the fact that someone else got thousands of dollars in cosmetics just for being lucky and logging on at patch time, but it still feels awful nonetheless.
Mártir (EUW)
: ¿Can someone explain to me, what the 'Loot Abuse' thing was about?
When riot patched the client with the update introducing the chinese new year lootboxes, they made a BIG oopsie and sold them at PBE prices (wich is ONE blue essence each). People abused this by buying them at that pice (wich would obviously be a mistake) and now hundreds of people have who knows how much loot from it. Riot can't do anything because it's not in their power to reroll the accounts. Also, the bug has been fixed way waaay earlier, like 20 minutes after the patch went live.
: Garen
Garen is an entry level champ. His combo? Q and spin on them. There's some extra mechanics on his w and e that you can pay attention to, as well as the whole villain minigame, but he's always been and always will be a tank over everything else. You won't see him in high elo because he doesn't have outplay potential and as a beginner champ he never will. Unless riot announces a major rework, he won't change.
: Ok, so about your chatlogs: I think it should be clear to everyone, including you, that you are guilty. You threatened to int, you threatened to go afk, you spammed, you blamed, you asked for reports, you trashtalked, you insulted. In other words: You broke pretty much every rule you can break in chat. Sure, there are worse chatlogs than yours, but this is still quite a lot and EASILY enough to justify a punishment. The threat to int alone would already be enough. > All in all, I do think I am worthy of some sort of punishment but an instant perma ban is in my opinion a bit too much. Define "instant permaban" please. What exactly is "instant" about it? Are you trying to say that you never had any punishment whatsoever before? Because that's how it's usually defined...and that's not possible. Instant permabans basically don't exist. They are theoretically possible, but in my 8 years on the forums/boards I saw exactly ONE of them, and that players chatlogs were beyond evil. So I am 100% sure this is not what happened here. > Opinions? I am looking for more of a critical discussion on the weight of the punishment relative to what has been done That strongly depends on your previous violations and punishments. Impossible to say just with those chat logs alone. > It is fine if it is perma-banned, I am just kinda surprised since I [...] mainly flamed based on reactions to other players. Doesn't matter. The rules don't change based on circumstances. You are not allowed to flame. Period. No matter why you flamed, no matter who flamed first, no matter how bad others flamed, no matter anything. It's always forbidden. The rules do not become invalid just because others are breaking them.
: i like maths so i will do this per equation : ( to riven : http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Riven )(dec. 15 2018) i will ignore runes in my calc and add comments regarding that while i am going -> riven base hp : 558.48 riven hp per lvl : 86 black cleaver hp : 400 lets say your lvl = x 558.48+400+86(x) = 1600 #equation for riven hp based on lvl = 1600 958.48+86(x) = 1600 86(x) = 641.52 x = 7.4595 since i ignored runes which can also give hp i should round this down to lvl 7 however i am certain that you rounded your hp(1600) down to begin with and you picked armor and not hp runes .. so lets round it up instead to lvl 8 .. so lets save : riven lvl 8 . if kled has only titanic and has 3.1k hp he needs to be (and here comes the problem) : lvl 14 ... here is my calc for kled since it is a weird result : (all info came from http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Kled )(dec. 15 2018) kled base hp = 400+60lvl kled passiv = 340+70(lvl-1)(0.7025+0.0175(lvl-1)) titanic hp = 450 so kleds hp = (400+340+450 #flat hp)+(60lvl #base hp scaling)+(70(lvl-1)(0.7025+0.0175(lvl-1)) #shield passiv scaling) you can rewrite that into : 1.225(x-1)²+49.175(x-1)+60(x)+1190=3100, where x is kleds lvl you can simplify the expresion into : 1.225(x-1)²+49.175(x)-49.175+60(x)+1190=3100|then(a+b)²=a²+2ab+b²|so : 1.225(x² - 2x + 1) + 49.175(x) - 49.175 +60(x) + 1190 = 1.225(x)² + 106.725(x) + 1142.05 and this all is equal to 3100 hp so: 1.225(x)² + 106.725(x) + 1142.05 =3100 which is equivalent to : 1.225(x)² + 106.725(x) - 1957.95 = 0 | /1.225 x² + (106.725/1.225)(x) - (1957.95/1.225) = 0 and now pq formula -> x1,x2 = - (p/2) +- ((p/2)² - q)^(1/2) if you give that into your calculator you get (rounded to the 4th digit after '.' ) x1 = - 103.0175 which you ignore since our x can only be between 1 and 18 ([1;18] U IN) x2=15.8951 which you must round down since we ignored runes etc .. but even so he would have to be lvl **14 at least !** so lets save : kled lvl >= 14 a lvl 8 riven can / should never be able / allowed to win against a lvl 14 kled in a fair fight .. most likely you gave wrong informations about your situation regarding the riven vs kled matchup or the league wiki is wrong or i did a grave mistake in my calc which shouldnt be the case (i dare you to find it if it is there) conclusion .. lvl 8 riven looses to lvl 14 kled .. totaly ballanced i can not say anything more based on my calcs ..
I found a mistake! You didn't think there was something wrong with lvl 14 kled only having titanic. OP is obviously crying hard and can't read the numbers right.
: Is Threhs a good OTP!?
Yes and no. I'd say he's a pretty popular pick in support, and hence often banned when there's nothing better to ban, but in higher ELO I guess not many people afford to ban him. He's a reliable pick, always among the better supports I'd say.
: Or I just switch my focus to different game. Flaming is a problem, but more annoying is the just plain...well...blindness or oblivious actions I see in game. That said, it's still better than straight out trolling("Staying nearby and letting the allies die, then go in solo and die yourself. Afk farming in jungle never helping anyone, despite all lanes being hardcore pushed in. Refusing to even walk in a direction of a person just because he is 4/0 while you're 0/1. Those kinds of things). The won games were won due to a 1) Troll in enemy team or 2) Afk.
Sure, that's fine too :) some people just aren't made for multiplayer games; League is A LOT more fun with friends and bullshittery than when you're being solo competitive. I'd much rather enjoy a good singleplayer rpg and finding out what's op and not than stress over not getting gold or that one lane losing. Sure, it's annoying, but if it is there's always better things to do. Can't wait for nexus blitz 2.
: 10 games trolling
I would like to see this "trolling", since I hardly ever come accross actual trolls and not just people throwing their lane/jungle/role that one game. And no, I haven't payed for rp in years. Also, I happen to see flamers a lot more often, I guess you could say flaming (or worse) is a way bigger problem and that you're part of it. Either way, you just go and enjoy leveling a new account if you can't accept that the internet will never (ever) be perfectly to your liking (especially in videogames).
Gabresol (EUW)
: Just a little idea I had about punishments I want to get some opinions on.
You could also argue that flamers are naturally at a disatvantage because of the amount of time they spend looking at chat instead of the game, but I'll put that aside. While it's clear that you could do this without the explanation, I think this might actually make people think more seriously about how they behave in game. Then again, they'll always be arguing that they're only doing it because of trolls and such not getting banned, but that's nothing new...
Nojima (EUNE)
: thats called time conzuming,which is every companys goal,so ofc no ones a moron to waist time on this projhect
the 1000th win rioter game is a tradition that actually happens sometime. This text is spiced with memes (I assume) but still...
: banned for 1 game without warning
N-word, f-word, r-word, k-word. Damn, it's hard to think you WEREN'T TRYING to get banned. Usually this is met with a 14 day suspension, but this honestly deserves a ban too. Go play cod or something.
: EU
If nothing else I want at least raw data and statistics on how EUW fares compared to other servers and their explanation for why it seems like we draw the short one.
: My history is free. My last game had 1 10 troll teemo again. That was premade with troll Malphite. Another lost ranked cause Riot matched me with lows as I said 100 times. Enough said bb.
That's like me saying that because I tossed a coin 5 times and got tails 5/5 times that it's magic/weighed. You just need something to whine over to de-stress, but you aren't doing yourself any favors {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: Then you can't prove anything. {{sticker:cass-cry}}
Neither can you {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} have fun
: I'm already playing good. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Then you're lying {{sticker:sg-lulu}} In all seriousness though, you sound delusional. Get a grip of yourself.
: Try to %%%%in lose me another ranked game %%%%y Riot. I dare you.
You'll get matched with better players when you start playing better {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: can u tell me how to do it exactly ? i'm really confused and i dont know where to go
Here https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us
Chùos (EUW)
: unfair ban
"Cool guys" I bet you call gals whores for not dating you because of a dp you sent them
hmm (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RewardWanted,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=WQqfFlEl,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-08T08:18:03.031+0000) > > League of legends, with their post-ban messages. Example: http://i.imgur.com/tYTTb8n.png League of legends claims 5% of players get a 10 game chat restrict, that's one in 20. Let's also say that the punishment system is perfect, that'd still leave one in twenty people flaming - a minority. But okay, let's be "real" and say that 50% of people flame, not a minority; It'd have to catch only one in 10 flamers then (very unreal, but you make of it what you will, I make of it that riot is very mild with flamers and that the majority of the playerbase don't flame, this is only for the 50% line, far from a sizeable majority). > Let me help you and show what a quality statement looks like: The majority of players has flamed and didn't get banned. > As is obvious my statement reflects reality. I really don't know what inspires the wierd imagination behind basically everything you say So the obvious conclusion is that 90%+ of players flame and the 5% worst of them receive a chat restriction. > Let me rephrase: Players don't even know they're being put at a disadvantage until they've sunk in considerable time into the game. New players aren't inherently flamers. It's not about knowing but interpreting. If jungler does a fail gank somewhere, or don't gank at all etc etc. the laner may interpret it that the jungler put him at a disadvantage. Such an interpretation triggers anger. To vent anger the player trolls, flames or signals that he is not interested to help back which is truly disadvantageous in a team based game. > Correlation doesn't always mean causation. More people can be "trolling" and less people flaming because more people see the game as casual; in this case, the same people _could potentially_ be the flamer and troller, but definitively not exclusive to them. I personally don't think people are transitioning more to trolling, I've actually seen a decrease in real hardcore flame. > If you wanna keep persuing this argument, you're gonna need to give me some proof; since the proof needs to be provided by the person making the affirmitive claim (or else I can just say there's no proof of what you're saying and disprove it as is). How about I call it a hypothesis? Then I provide information without needing to prove anything. The motivation for this hypothesis is my own observation of an increase in trolling and giving up. The theoretical explanation/argument for this observation is that when people aren't flaming, and anger is an emotion that needs expression, naturally they are expressing their anger by punishing their team in non verbal ways. I think this is a good hypothesis. Therefore I post it. > Oh, sorry, since you claimed I'm stupid, 1035480342572340x 0 is still 0. So if you have x=200/1035480342572340=1.9314708e-13 IQ then I got 200 IQ because 1.9314708e-13*1035480342572340 = 200. > That's kinda how the mmr works, if your mmr falls you're matched with people of the same mmr as your new fallen mmr. You wanting to make people constantly losing match with losing teammates would make a extremely unfriendly downspiral system that would probably make people even more toxic and likely to troll. At least I'd imagine it would. I think this is how the matchmaking system currently is. If the system recognizes you are bad due to losing some matches (which ofc happens to randomly getting trolls) then the system matches you with trolls and feeders to place you where it thinks you belong. > > I.e. if you go 0/14 for x% of games the system will only match you with trolls/feeders. Riot doesn't do that because of values. Wow that's exactly how I think rito matchmaking works. How do you know it doesnt do that?
You are really stubbornly trying to pass a point and not actually making arguments for it past "this is how I feel, hence it must be true, and you're stupid, basically". I'd keep arguing, but I see this conversation isn't productive for either of us, so toodles.
Master Mid (EUNE)
: Account suspension For what?
If you got a 14 day suspension for boosting it was probably because of the system finding some trait marks on your account for it, like frequent IP switching to distant locations, sudden mmr incline, change of champion pool, and even if flash is on f or d for instance. I'd speculate more, but I'd like to see a screenshot of the message.
Shaco Beast (EUNE)
: The average player doesn't speak english to flame in chat.
Popular foreign curses are picked up as well, you see it in lots of chat logs shared here, if memory serves right.
: Maybe to ban the inters and trolls instantly and not after months?
And how do you achieve that? If there is a delay, it's not because riot feels like it, it's because the system needs that long
Kaimetsú (EUW)
: Should riot make a “League App”
Don't think it's that great. Maybe chat would be nice and might drive up champ and skin sales a bit, but doubt it overall.
hmm (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RewardWanted,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=WQqfFlEl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T17:54:14.659+0000) > > Riot would disagree with you, claiming that only a vast minority of players ever get punished more than once for flaming. In fact a very low percentage of players ever get a perma ban (single digits, exclusively for flaming, I'd imagine it maybe reacing 10% when accounting for 3rd party program usage and account sharing). Where do you get these numbers from? I hear about people getting chat restricted all the time. Most of my friends have been chat restricted before. I see flamers in most games as well. > Flamers usually begin flaming when they start understanding the game on a basic level, usually in a very self-centered way. You can argue all you want that everyone flames, but if they did then the majority of the player base would be banned, _I don't think I have to say that it clearly isn't the case, but I'll say it anyways._ Everything you say is basically a load of !"#@ lul. Flamers start to flame for example when they interpret that other players are putting them at a disadvantage. You say yourself that fewer people get banned than people get flamed. Then later you conclude that if everyone flamed everyone would be banned. Can you also see now that your logical reasoning isn't very impressive? Let me help you and show what a quality statement looks like: The majority of players has flamed and didn't get banned. As is obvious my statement reflects reality. I really don't know what inspires the wierd imagination behind basically everything you say {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} > > I'm not defending trollers in any way, I'm simply not saying that because there's trollers flame should be glossed over as well (wich it already is! You probably won't ever get banned for flaming in the sense of "Bot is bad feeding" or "Omg this Vayne", but in the sense of using certain words that you'd really use only in places where you know you won't get stared at for saying it). Ironically enough, I can't remember the last time I encountered a genuine troll, **_and I play in low silver/high bronze/normals, so that should tell you something_**. Let me help you to think lulz. I claimed that decrease in flaming --> increase in trolling. Then it makes little sense to point out that we should decrease flaming still. Perhaps you should look for a counter argument to my claim instead? > It happens. Statistically, if you get a bunch of wins you probably aren't getting trolls, hence it seems intentional that you have that one promo with a troll. As for changing the algorithm... NO #%&@ SHERLOCK Here's a tip. Now that it is clear that I'm like 1035480342572340x smarter than you, you don't need to state the obvious. Thanks. xD After playing thousands of games every year, I can safely say that trolls, afkers and feeders in promos are 10x as common as in non promo games. > a) How should riot make sure that you don't get matched with a troll? They don't know people's intentions beforehand and we simply don't have the tech to be able to say "yup this guy is a troll ban him" when there's thousands of games being processed at once by the automated system. How to match someone against a troll? Easy, just match you up with a bunch of players with negative derivative on their mmr (losing streak) and at least one of them gonna be on tilt. There are many other factors that can determine a troll, e.g. the player flamed more than usual the previous games etc. Or just simply use a machine learning algorithm to evaluate relevant datasets to classify people who gonna troll. I think rito gives you bad teams if the system thinks you belong in a lower elo after a losing streak. > b) Riot is strictly against a "prisoner island" matchmaking system, i.e. they don't want people with potential of reforming matched with people who'd prevent them from reforming (more trolls and flamers), so they instead go with a strike system. No idea what the difference of these systems are, feel free to elaborate. > > Trolls are a unavoidable evil when it comes to gaming, like scammers are with trading and money or bullies are in school. You can't get rid of them, but you can change your view of them to make it better for yourself. You can't prove that there doesn't exist any measures to decrease trolls in a good way.
>Where do you get these numbers from? I hear about people getting chat restricted all the time. Most of my friends have been chat restricted before. I see flamers in most games as well. League of legends, with their post-ban messages. Example: http://i.imgur.com/tYTTb8n.png League of legends claims 5% of players get a 10 game chat restrict, that's one in 20. Let's also say that the punishment system is perfect, that'd still leave one in twenty people flaming - a minority. But okay, let's be "real" and say that 50% of people flame, not a minority; It'd have to catch only one in 10 flamers then (very unreal, but you make of it what you will, I make of it that riot is very mild with flamers and that the majority of the playerbase don't flame, this is only for the 50% line, far from a sizeable majority). >Everything you say is basically a load of !"#@ lul. Flamers start to flame for example when they interpret that other players are putting them at a disadvantage. You say yourself that fewer people get banned than people get flamed. Then later you conclude that if everyone flamed everyone would be banned. Can you also see now that your logical reasoning isn't very impressive? Let me help you and show what a quality statement looks like: The majority of players has flamed and didn't get banned. As is obvious my statement reflects reality. I really don't know what inspires the wierd imagination behind basically everything you say Yeah, start arguing with insults as you can apparantly not understand what I said. Let me rephrase: Players don't even know they're being put at a disadvantage until they've sunk in considerable time into the game. New players aren't inherently flamers. Again, see my above point as to why the majority of people aren't banned for it/aren't flamers. It's easy to call what you say reality, yet at least I give an effort to understand what you're saying. >Let me help you to think lulz. I claimed that decrease in flaming --> increase in trolling. Then it makes little sense to point out that we should decrease flaming still. Perhaps you should look for a counter argument to my claim instead? Correlation doesn't always mean causation. More people can be "trolling" and less people flaming because more people see the game as casual; in this case, the same people _could potentially_ be the flamer and troller, but definitively not exclusive to them. I personally don't think people are transitioning more to trolling, I've actually seen a decrease in real hardcore flame. If you wanna keep persuing this argument, you're gonna need to give me some proof; since the proof needs to be provided by the person making the affirmitive claim (or else I can just say there's no proof of what you're saying and disprove it as is). >NO #%&@ SHERLOCK Here's a tip. Now that it is clear that I'm like 1035480342572340x smarter than you, you don't need to state the obvious. Thanks. xD After playing thousands of games every year, I can safely say that trolls, afkers and feeders in promos are 10x as common as in non promo games. Oh, sorry, since you claimed I'm stupid, 1035480342572340x 0 is still 0. Again, burden of proof is on you, show me your stats. >How to match someone against a troll? Easy, just match you up with a bunch of players with negative derivative on their mmr (losing streak) and at least one of them gonna be on tilt. There are many other factors that can determine a troll, e.g. the player flamed more than usual the previous games etc. Or just simply use a machine learning algorithm to evaluate relevant datasets to classify people who gonna troll. I think rito gives you bad teams if the system thinks you belong in a lower elo after a losing streak. That's kinda how the mmr works, if your mmr falls you're matched with people of the same mmr as your new fallen mmr. You wanting to make people constantly losing match with losing teammates would make a extremely unfriendly downspiral system that would probably make people even more toxic and likely to troll. At least I'd imagine it would. >No idea what the difference of these systems are, feel free to elaborate. I.e. if you go 0/14 for x% of games the system will only match you with trolls/feeders. Riot doesn't do that because of values. >You can't prove that there doesn't exist any measures to decrease trolls in a good way. I don't have to, burden of proof is on you to prove a good way exists. There's ways. They're orwellian and aren't great but there's ways.
: Account lock
Contact riot support here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us If you have some basic information and access to the original e-main used to register the account then it should be no problem. Extra value if you have all the purchase data logged somewhere, like credit card transactions and old paysafe code reciepts. Note that account sharing is met with an insta ban (only one user per account, people can make their own free accounts)
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