: Can you stop being such a snowflake? People are unhappy because the matchmaking, the balance, and the report system is trash since ages. Also trolls, intentional feeders and leavers go unpunished. Can't handle the internet? Cover your eyes and don't visit Boards.
> [{quoted}](name=College Failed,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pwls03LT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-13T10:37:44.303+0000) > > Can you stop being such a snowflake? People are unhappy because the matchmaking, the balance, and the report system is trash since ages. Also trolls, intentional feeders and leavers go unpunished. I'm mad about this too and I never said that they're wrong. But as you said, it's the matchmaking and balance problem, not low elo people that are problem. Yet 50% of hate is directed towards them. > [{quoted}](name=College Failed,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pwls03LT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-13T10:37:44.303+0000) > > Can you stop being such a snowflake > Can't handle the internet? Cover your eyes and don't visit Boards. Can you please read the post again carefully please? Because from what I can see, you misread a lot. Also, if you're support toxic behaviour, you're going against TOS.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Allahu Akbar 007,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Pwls03LT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-13T10:13:09.502+0000) > > fuc off An excellent example of a loud immature toxic part of this comminity.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
QUTJE (EUW)
: Dodge problems ?
Same problem for me. It's present for 4 months at least. If you select a champion there is a good chance that the game will start anyway even if you closed the launcher.
gandalfhan (EUNE)
: POLL(VOTE): Toxicity vs Pointing Out Facts with Reasons
> [{quoted}](name=gandalfhan,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=VEhXEqE4,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-01-03T20:40:12.473+0000) > > a player is calling another enemy player I wonder why the heck the "all" chat even exists? There is nothing good that teams can say to each other. They're enemies, they will just try to flame and/or tilt each other. Second questions is why you're wasting your time on helping an enemy player by pointing out their mistakes?
SANEakaIN (EUW)
: Most late game carry's will destroy a non tank, Cait cant do that as fast as most just at range but she is easily killed... a LB will murder her and Cait cant do a thing. Cait is a early game lane bully, she shines by preventing her opponent from playing LoL, otherwise she is a average carry late game, she has range but she is as easy to kill as a Varus, jump on and remove. Cait is not a safe ADC if the early game goes bad, you cant play save the Cait late game and her AS is too slow to heal tank, her AD is good but comparetively her DPS is average for a ADC.
> [{quoted}](name=SANEakaIN,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EKZMEUZ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-03T20:48:28.250+0000) > > Cait is a early game lane bully, she shines by preventing her opponent from playing LoL, otherwise she is a average carry late game, she has range but she is as easy to kill as a Varus, jump on and remove. If she is early game, then why she always (even when she loses early game) deals insane damage late?
Majordx (EUW)
: First of all Cait is lategame.ADC lategame should be strong.More then that she got no mobility so she dies easily.Her early is garbage.And you must be pretty dumb to walk on here traps. And even more then that you need 3 +items to actually start playng.And the items are expensive.{{item:3031}} {{item:3094}} {{item:3095}} after this you actually start playng.You qq about adc doing dmg where they squishy af and getting 1 shot by evryone but you dont cry about {{champion:38}} or {{champion:10}} that scale better then adc and 1v9???You people are noobs.
> [{quoted}](name=Majordx,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EKZMEUZ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-03T21:32:14.820+0000) > > First of all Cait is lategame She is pretty decent in early game. And she is more of a mid-late game champion. And even then, she is not supposed to be **that** strong considering her decent range. > [{quoted}](name=Majordx,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EKZMEUZ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-03T21:32:14.820+0000) > > she got no mobility Technically she has E which is decent for escaping a single enemy. > [{quoted}](name=Majordx,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EKZMEUZ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-03T21:32:14.820+0000) > > And you must be pretty dumb to walk on here traps No need to be rude buddy. In a wild mix of flashes, skins colors etc its harder to spot a trap. Plus now we have more bushes and traps behind turrets is still a thing. > [{quoted}](name=Majordx,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EKZMEUZ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-03T21:32:14.820+0000) > > but you dont cry about Kassadin needs nerfs, his lategame is exactly 1vs5. Kayle lategame is pretty annoying but considering that she is pure garbage lategame, she is not the biggest problem right now. There are bunch of other op champs.
SANEakaIN (EUW)
: Caitlyn is also the easiest champion to jump on, she really has no way to escape, even her net is bad, I have net jumped a lot of assassins and still get murdered as Cait has no real escape, yes she is hard hitting but she is also easy to take out. She is rather good at low tiers though, but (like Yi) at higher levels she is all too easy if she is the carry, she is a good lane bully but bad late game as the carry.
> [{quoted}](name=SANEakaIN,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1EKZMEUZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-03T20:33:46.354+0000) > > but bad late game as the carry She basically one/two-shots most of non-tank champions late game, not to mention her ult. She is overtuned, her charged AA deals too much damage, her headshot on trapped enemies does too much damage.
: Should I just go into normal games and forget about bot games?
> [{quoted}](name=AngstyTurtle,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=txFdMWAm,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-01-01T04:56:17.374+0000) > > it feels like all the other players are just bots In my experience 99% of the time all other "teammates" in bot games are bots. Just play normals, mute flamers and learn mechanics and champions.
: Rito Gamez are so mingy when it's about buffs, but so generous when it's about nerfs
Kalista is tricky but her E damage is pretty great. Xayah E damage is absolutely insane. She should be buffed only after nerfing her E. Sivir is annoying to lane against and she has a nice range. I haven't saw her in a while, but thats because current go-to ADCs are Caitlyn (who really needs a nerf) and Ezreal (who continues to be a spell spammer even after removal of Clepto). Kog'Maw deals insane damage with everything that it has. Varus is almost perfectly balanced. His arrow missing HP scale is too big in my opinion, but otherwise he is balanced. Playing ADC sucks because currently every new champion has engage, disengage, flash, dash and splash. Enemies just jump into you, oneshot you and then jump away. There are a bunch of champions who need: * Huge nerfs: Cait, Aphelios, Nidalee, Diana, Ekko, Fizz, Master Yi * Some nerfs: Akali, Nocturne, Kassadin, Nasus, Pyke, Senna, Sylas, Trynadmere, Wukong, Twitch, Quinn, Qiyana, Ezreal
Power Mac (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rinart73,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jrPmUPZM,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-29T06:41:23.845+0000) > > Sure thing, **some** people that play ranked don't tryhard in normals and just learn new champions there or play for fun. But they have advantage in overall knowledge of champions, map and mechanical skills. It's still unfair to place them against lower ELO players. That usually happens only to high-ELO players who spent most of their time playing rankeds instead of normals. As Hansiman pointed out, they basically start out a "new ladder": think of it as a jam session where you can end up with a terrible drummer, a decent bassist and a virtuoso guitarist who just happened to enter the same, freshly opened venue. But soon enough, the matchmaking system starts placing them against people with similar MMR. You've just been unlucky this time around.
> [{quoted}](name=Power Mac,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jrPmUPZM,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-29T09:15:42.899+0000) > > But soon enough, the matchmaking system starts placing them against people with similar MMR. You've just been unlucky this time around. Yeah sure, thats why in the end of the season I had a bunch of matches with/against gold, diamond and platinum. The system "balanced" itself (even though objectively speaking I'm a silver player **at best** (don't take my rank into account cause I don't play it).
Hansiman (EUW)
: > thinks its a great idea to not balance it out like ranked games? Same ELO vs same ELO It does, just that it looks at normal MMR instead of ranked MMR. Normals allow people of any skill to queue up together, as opposed to ranked where there are certain limitations as to whom you can play with. This alone makes it rather difficult to just match players up based on their ranked MMR.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jrPmUPZM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-29T00:10:26.538+0000) > > It does, just that it looks at normal MMR instead of ranked MMR. Sure thing, **some** people that play ranked don't tryhard in normals and just learn new champions there or play for fun. But they have advantage in overall knowledge of champions, map and mechanical skills. It's still unfair to place them against lower ELO players.
Çhip (EUW)
: I agree that Master Yi, Aphelios, Tryndamere are OP but can't say the same for Ekko, i have seen him too few times in my games.. if people don't play him he is not overpowered (Such as Yi, Aphelios, Tryndamere) who i see every 3 games.
> [{quoted}](name=Çhip,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EJzTskk6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-29T04:18:10.223+0000) > > can't say the same for Ekko, i have seen him too few times in my games.. I see Ekko quite often. He has engage, damage, sustain and cc. Also his W (huge AOE slow AND stun, very 'fair') is basically undogeable in teamfights or with certain skins because so called "hints" are not recognizeable in a mix of visuals and sound. Also from personal experience I can add Diana. The amount of oneshots she gets increases exponentially as the game goes. 90% of the time, if I see Diana in enemy team it means that she's gonna get fed and win the game for her team.
Andantade (EUNE)
: Font changing
It would be awesome if we could modify some of the aspects of the game. I don't really care about font, but I would like to have downloadable (official and player-made) announcer packs.
: The matchmaking doesn't suck though. Especially in EUW you often get very even teams with very close mmr. There are other factors that cannot be addressed. Like someone smurfing with low mmr.
> [{quoted}](name=Harmonixer Yuri,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EBJ6qX1W,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-12-24T00:42:10.308+0000) > > The matchmaking doesn't suck though. Especially in EUW you often get very even teams with very close mmr. There are other factors that cannot be addressed. Like someone smurfing with low mmr. Idk, in my experience I quite often get ally teams with low level or low rank people with a sudden Platinum player among them vs Silver & Gold, or just straight up Silver vs Diamond, which is not what I'd consider "balanced". Yeah, smurfing is a problem and Riot are just ignoring it.
Shamose (EUW)
: > Oh yeah, 30lvl certainly has the same MMR as these guys :/ Yeah, new account are always somewhere in silver. Highest in the game in the picture is G4, lowest is B2.
> [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=pghIdAts,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-24T00:28:03.894+0000) > > Yeah, new account are always somewhere in silver. Another flaw of the system tbh. Considering we now have Iron, new accounts should start somewhere in Bronze.
Shamose (EUW)
: There is no level based matchmaking. Matchmaking is based on MMR.
> [{quoted}](name=Ankotzu,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=pghIdAts,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-23T22:32:26.868+0000) > > what is with this matchmaking system? Well, first of all it doesn't have a maximum difference value between lowest player MMR and highest. So it basically thinks that "10 + 200 + 200 + 200 + 200 = 162 + 162 + 162 + 162 + 162". Have fun feeling like it's a 4v5 game where you just sit on respawn and watch stuff happening (I know that feel). And the second, half of the time the system doesn't even try to at least get the same middle score and just composes an enemy team that is one or even two tiers higher. > [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=pghIdAts,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-23T22:36:43.947+0000) > > Matchmaking is based on MMR. Oh yeah, 30lvl certainly has the same MMR as these guys :/
MrLukaUbica (EUNE)
: I hate this community
> [{quoted}](name=MrLukaUbica,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EBJ6qX1W,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-23T23:41:53.275+0000) > > Riot should stop banning people from being toxic and let them vent out Sure thing, let's make this community even more toxic then it is now! You were matched with people who (you think) had less skill than you? It's not their fault that matchmaking sucks. You were matched with trolls and inters (please make sure that you can discern "inting" and "feeding")? Well, report them. It's just harder to determine that stuff and current Riot report system is automated and kinda flawed. Not everyone likes to be toxic. I don't like to be toxic, I want to play with people who don't verbally abuse or flame their teammates. This community already has a "hidden" rule called "D.O.N.T." when it comes to interacting with it. At least on forums moderators work well in the last few months and "Report" button actually works. What we need is a rewamp of ingame report system and more strict punishments when it comes to toxic behavior. It will benefit both players and Riot (because new people will not be met with a bunch of crap).
: It is bannable already. It's just next to impossible to ban our a smurf. Inculding riot's thoughts of this is "smurf are like elo boosters, but in masses, we don't have enough people to investigate every single smurf if they are truly smurfs on top of that, smurfs reaches their own ranks within just 20-30 games, the time we ban them, it's likely that they ain't disturbing anyone anymore"
Smurfing should be bannable not only in ranked, but in the whole game in general. If people want to learn new champions - they should go normals, not make smurfs. All this crap about Riot "allowing people to experience the joy of climbing" ruins the game for other players. > [{quoted}](name=GamingZimon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=o739lLxb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-22T17:43:10.980+0000) > > It is bannable already Then why we can see all the posts "smurf is looking for.." on the **official** forum and these people don't get banned? Like, they basically confessed that they're smurfs. > [{quoted}](name=Çhip,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=o739lLxb,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-22T17:59:23.857+0000) > > 3.) They make noobs play more after getting stomped. They're making other people want to leave the game, not play more. > [{quoted}](name=Wolity,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=o739lLxb,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-22T20:28:55.982+0000) > > A challenger smurf can get from bronze to diamond in less than 24 hours And ruin the game for the opposite team while doing so. Why this 1 person is suddenly more _important_ than 5 people in the enemy team? > [{quoted}](name=SoloGarenFTW,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=o739lLxb,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-22T20:37:37.145+0000) > You can't practise in normals because this is a different environment where ppl have a casual approach to the game and where you can easily find youself with or against some toxic premades. You can't practise in normals because people are less serious about the win there and won't blame you that much for trying new champ? Thats weird logic. Btw, you can (and will) get toxic teammates in ranked. Maybe even more often, because everyone is tryharding and will rage at any mistake.
: > Let's see: Jhin has slow attack speed and has to reload. Draven deals insane damage but has to catch his weapons. Kaisa shoots minions with her abilities and her AA damage is manageable. Vayne, Cait and Tristana - true, they have insane AA damage and/or speed. > Aphelios has fast high-damage multiattacks/aoe attacks with most of his weapons. Kai’s a does the same damage with her abilities as Aphelios and has an execute on top of it. Draven while needs to catch axes can kill a squishy faster than Aphelios without catching the axes (a single crit hit with a Q and a few follow up hits, even if he misses the axe). Jhin can kill in a few autos even with low attack speed the dps isn’t far off. Don’t forget the vast majority of Aphelios’ damage comes from regular auto attacks outside of his scythe and chakram... so his damage isn’t gonna be much higher than other adcs especially as he has less steroids than them. And he’s only got multi attacks with 2 weapons, and an AoE attack with 1... where as jinx practically has both of these and can choose between them at will. > Aphelios has decent range. In my experience as a support player, only Vel'Koz kinda works against him (which is funny, because.. you know, Vel'Koz "support") Only with his sniper, without it his range is only 550 which is average for adcs... with sniper it’s 650 which is caitlyn range. So most of the time any support works against him, with a sniper he’s a caitlyn without the headshot passive or any of the defencive tools. > I'm pretty sure engages decide who wins right now. Assasins/bruisers or even tanks engage into squishy mages and then just instantly jump into other types of enemies, applying cc or AOE attacks. That’s not meta... engages have always been a big part of how you win games. But tanks are still not strong and there’s not much more in terms of engage being played (asssasins and bruisers can’t really engage)... and outside of the support role engage isn’t really being played... it’s msinly assasins and juggernauts in most roles... so a more pick oriented meta is more apt. > In most cases her AA and Q do the job even without W. W is pretty good because it's AOE, so if enemies are surrounded by friendly minions - Senna can use that. Except they cant, her autos and Q don’t make her any better at poking than most other champions, any mage support can do that better (hell caitlyn support does that better)... she isn’t gonna win being exclusively poke and with a W that’s not that useful compared to other such tools and an E that’s sutuational at best she isn’t actually gonna be that strong. Again I’d take lux over Senna, better ranges better poke, better peel, and can delete an adc early game. > Let's be real - who builds non-damage Senna right now? People go with better build that does the job. Everyone... her most used build as well as the one with the highest win rate is {{item:3174}} {{item:3107}} {{item:3504}} ... only damage item that’s consistently taken is umbral glaive which is the lowest lethality item possible. With these builds she’s not dealing damage Like I said actual ad damage builds are expensive, pyke is the only one who can go them because he’s got his ult... Senna doesn’t have anything like that so a full damage build is extremely feast or famine. So Senna is more feast or famine than a mage support like lux who’s damage build is cheaper.... that’s why mages like vel and brand can go support but ad champions rarely do, their builds are too expensive.
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T18:21:21.334+0000) > > But tanks are still not strong When is the last time you played against Mundo? :) Unkillable unescapable tank with damage. Yeah, he is missing engages, but still, you mentioned that tanks are weak right now and I kinda disagree - Leona and Alistar both have engages and are hard to kill. Amumu has engages and tonns of cc. Etc. > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T18:21:21.334+0000) > > Lux can delete an adc early game Did you mean get three-shoted by an enemy ADC while trying to CC them and running out of mana?
2xDealer (EUW)
: Play Zed.
> [{quoted}](name=2xDealer,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-12-21T18:22:26.049+0000) > > Play Zed. Zed support is something new :D I'm trying to learn various champs but so far not doing great.
Croffins (EUW)
: I agree latest champion are truly overloaded and unfun to play against, but it's not just them, there's yi playin 1v4 after he got his items if there's no lulu to polymorph him since ever, there's fkin vladimir havin 3k hp and oneshotting you while doing 40k damage and 61k healing per game, while also giving you the choice between ignoring him and die or focus him and waste your cooldowns on W+Zhonyas and 3k healing, then there's zoe who got nerfed repeatedly but still oneshots you, fkin evelynn popping out of nowhere and denying your MR till it reaches 0, katarina jumping everywhere getting another quadrakill and snowballing till 22/3, aphelios doing random sht that 90% of the players don't even know how to counter because his kit is too long and complex to remember, then there's the ""NERFED"" funneling strategy which still works at least until D3, and ppl abuse it to grind fast, then there's zyra with no items dealing more damage than his adc and midlaner combined, akali hitting 6 and you can either giveup all cs or die because you're never gonna survive her full combo, NEVER, btw 8% less damage to minions so while you giveup all of them maybe she'll lose 1 or 2 that's a pretty solid nerf, but wait there's more, qiyana with 60cs at 23 minutes because she can ignore farm and go roam all game since everytime she encounters some1 she got a free kill, missing champions but hitting walls with the ult and still chopping off half hp from everyone who gets hit by the shockwave, ryze building catalyst and tear and pissing on your grave at minute 5 but hey he's a late game champion so wait until he scales and maybe you'll get oneshot with a 3.8k damage E Q, khazix killing you for the 6th time at minute 10 with E Q aa and 1300 damage, kaisa still being the strongest adc since she came out, dashing and shielding herself and going invisible after so you can miss all of your skills, while also having as much burst damage as an assassin with her Q and so on. This game is a fkin mess lol and here i am trying to play some aatrox just to get smashed without counterplay and even camped by the enemy jgl, just to get 0/8 and receive all the hate my team has to offer. But i wonder why they should stop making new broken champions and try to fix the actual problems, there are more skins being released in a single patch (fkin 13, for a total of afkintonofRP) than meaningful balance changes in an entire season, maybe even 2 or 3. I'm disgusted :|
> [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-21T14:41:15.053+0000) > > there's yi playin 1v4 > vladimir havin 3k hp and oneshotting you while doing 40k damage and 61k healing per game I completely agree. > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-21T14:41:15.053+0000) > > then there's zoe Zoe is like Yasuo - she is either played poorly or she is godlike who oneshots/twoshots everyone. Champs like her are missing the middle and the reward for skill is too high. > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-21T14:41:15.053+0000) > > evelynn She is annoying, but I didn't have much experience playing against her. > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-21T14:41:15.053+0000) > > katarina > akali Quite annoying and impossible to runaway. As for damage, not so sure. > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-21T14:41:15.053+0000) > > Zyra Oh yeah, the "support" champion with CC+damage enough to easilly win early game. > [{quoted}](name=Croffins,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-21T14:41:15.053+0000) > > qiyana Very weird ult that deals too much damage considering the huge area stun. I'll add some of my "favorites": * Fizz that doesn't care about your skillshots because he dodged, ults you (horribly long slow(!) with huge damage) and then even if you escape/Zhonya ult, you're dead anyway. * Lee Sin who is basically the number 1 jungler because of his engage and overall damage. * Cait who powerspikes and oneshots you in the lategame even if she lost early game. Oh and traps. More traps. * Malphite that oneshots you with ult even after nerfs.
: > That shreds you to pieces when you try to approach him I mean the same could be said about litterally every adc... he doesn’t have a whole lot more damage than they do. 1v1 wise he’s restricted to his scythe pistol... without that he can’t, his sniper isn’t useful up close, his flamethrower doesn’t help vs a single target, his gravity helps over vs juggernauts not vs assasins and mages, and his chakram requires him to be up close and personal where he doesn’t want to be. Plus assasins and mages don’t need to approach persay, they can either do it at range or use mobility > I get that bruiser/assasin with engages is current meta but not everyone plays this type of champions. I mean pretty sure it ain’t the current meta. Like with every champion you need the right tools for the job, vs an adc you need burst... that comes from mages, assasins, and bruisers... if your not the one with these champions then one of your team will... he’ll your mid laner is almost guarenteed to have someone you can use > In my opinion Lux pokes with E and in order to root with Q she needs enemy to make positioning mistakes or just wait till ADC will deal with minions. But Senna W also relies on positioning mistakes, it’s actually a slower skill shot. It also does get stopped by minions where as you need two minions to stop lux Q. Your also realistically gonna get a multi man snare with lux. So in that department lux is superior. Her poke also isn’t her defencive ability, meaning lux can poke and reduce retaliation at the same time rather than having to choose like Senna. > Plus Lux without kills is pretty weak. Senna on the other hand can safely poke with Q and her increasing range and damage (+ crits) is much more consistent and deadly. Actually it’s not more deadly. Without a damage build senna’s damage isn’t that good, her crits are also surprisingly pathetic (fun fact her crits do 130% damage rather than the full 200% damage, for reference yasuo’s does 180% and jhin does 150%)... without a full damage build her ability to do much falls off, where as a lux with a supportive build has a much more superior protective ability... and the build Senna needs for damage is more expensive than the one that lux needs So again I stand by what I said, Senna is a discount lux who generally doesn’t do anything better besides her ult range (and it being global puts it on such a long cooldown it’s barely even worth it)
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T15:51:49.705+0000) > > I mean the same could be said about litterally every adc... he doesn’t have a whole lot more damage than they do. Let's see: Jhin has slow attack speed and has to reload. Draven deals insane damage but has to catch his weapons. Kaisa shoots minions with her abilities and her AA damage is manageable. Vayne, Cait and Tristana - true, they have insane AA damage and/or speed. Aphelios has fast high-damage multiattacks/aoe attacks with most of his weapons. > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T15:51:49.705+0000) > > mages don’t need to approach persay, they can either do it at range Aphelios has decent range. In my experience as a support player, only Vel'Koz kinda works against him (which is funny, because.. you know, Vel'Koz "support") > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T15:51:49.705+0000) > > I mean pretty sure it ain’t the current meta I'm pretty sure engages decide who wins right now. Assasins/bruisers or even tanks engage into squishy mages and then just instantly jump into other types of enemies, applying cc or AOE attacks. > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T15:51:49.705+0000) > > But Senna W also relies on positioning mistakes In most cases her AA and Q do the job even without W. W is pretty good because it's AOE, so if enemies are surrounded by friendly minions - Senna can use that. > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-21T15:51:49.705+0000) > > Without a damage build senna’s damage isn’t that good Let's be real - who builds non-damage Senna right now? People go with better build that does the job.
: wanna better prizes for the level up
> [{quoted}](name=Egy Legend,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=1Xw2IyBR,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-21T12:56:40.042+0000) > > We can't pass feedback reports directly to the development team Then what are they good for? They can't solve problems, they can't contact the devs.. they can't do anything. > [{quoted}](name=Egy Legend,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=1Xw2IyBR,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-21T12:56:40.042+0000) > > but I recommend posting to the Boards Except that Riot dev and balancing team don't read Boards.
Vivilou (EUW)
: Senna ulti is global. Come on Riot, is there still a reason for lux ulti not to be global as well?
> [{quoted}](name=Vivilou,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-21T09:22:30.699+0000) > > Senna ulti is global. > Come on Riot, is there still a reason for lux ulti not to be global as well? I'm fine with Senna ult being global, the ult is not the problem in most cases (but maybe it needs a bit of nerf in terms of damage). It's the annoying high-damage poke and range. Lux ult doesn't need to be global, considering how much damage it does when she snowballs :) But imagine a global Jhin ult :D > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-21T13:13:27.507+0000) > > I wish they return Kalista back to live, because right now her late game is super awful. Useless af. I've seen some Kalista players do insane damage and completely stomping botlane :/ She is just not easy to learn.
: Yes he has a lot in his kit but never at the same time, if you pay attention to his weapon loadouts you can very easily punish him. Plus he’s a squishy immobile champion with no self peel outside of the rocket launcher... if he doesn’t have that he can’t get away from you, and without his scythe pistol he can’t ever survive you. Punish him for that. And Senna really isn’t that bad, all she has is poke honestly lux out does her in every way.
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-21T03:52:48.331+0000) > > Plus he’s a squishy immobile champion That shreds you to pieces when you try to approach him. I get that bruiser/assasin with engages is current meta but not everyone plays this type of champions. Also his ult can heal (on certain weapon), but still. > [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YU2L1V3g,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-21T03:52:48.331+0000) > > And Senna really isn’t that bad, all she has is poke honestly lux out does her in every way. I kinda disagree. In my opinion Lux pokes with E and in order to root with Q she needs enemy to make positioning mistakes or just wait till ADC will deal with minions. Plus Lux without kills is pretty weak. Senna on the other hand can safely poke with Q and her increasing range and damage (+ crits) is much more consistent and deadly.
Rioter Comments
: Runes Bug
Same here. For me it opens a part of the window (basically a horizontal line and the "Close" button).
: tell how to stop smurfs? and riot may fix it
> [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=c6pA8XTB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-17T12:40:27.418+0000) > > tell how to stop smurfs? and riot may fix it Well for starters they at least could make smurfing punisheable. Obviously usually there is no way to detect it (unless someone openly says they are), but forcing smurf players (or at least mentions) out of official forum and subreddit would be nice. Also, smurfs are only part of the problem. Matchmaking in general is pretty bad, it assumes that MMR scores 10 + 100 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 82 + 82 + 82 + 82 + 82. As a result, a lot of games (at least in my experience) are basically 4v5. There should be a limit - a maxium difference between players MMR scores. I don't think that it will increase matchmaking time that much. And the rest of the time matchmaking system doesn't even try to assemble equal teams - one has average Diamond 4, the other Silver 4.
: INPUT DELAY
Same. Occasional input delay without any reason. And FPS and ping don't change while it happens.
: I am afraid it's not possible to nerf tanks even more than they already are my friend.
> [{quoted}](name=Get Outscaled,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QNpYfyzl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-17T06:19:32.004+0000) > > I am afraid it's not possible to nerf tanks even more than they already are my friend. Unkillable unescapable Mundo with decent damage says "Hi". Like srsly he regens faster then you deal damage to him.
: Why is there no Tribunal?
> [{quoted}](name=Tito Sniberb,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6boogm12,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-16T22:45:31.019+0000) > > The tribunal worked just fine The problem with system that is managed by players themselves is that there is no way to check every player if they make decisions based on the actual rules instead of making biased decisions (so some toxic judge can choose not to punish another toxic player). Plus I heard that some players just spammed random buttons in tribunal in order to get rewards.
: singed is actually useless
Not really. Singed is just a different type of champion with completely different mechanics. He exists to annoy, troll and to make people kill themselves in game and rage IRL. He definetely doesn't need buffs.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Yes, there is no penalty for quitting the games and at most they will get a fake punishment(which is a joke) called Leaverbuster which puts players in Low Priority Queue(LPQ) - 5min, 10 min, 20 min wait time before one can join the actual queue. This actually encourages players to quit game rather than playing for any given reason, most of the time the reason being a stupid one,like no gank, no ss, someone else taking cs(jg/supp), giving first blood,..... and other than trolls on boards everyone sees this so called punishment as a joke and enjoy it. p.s: unless afk players are punished like toxic players are they will continue to do this and ruin games.
> [{quoted}](name=Uraraka,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=s6fsXHTx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-16T05:52:28.878+0000) > > p.s: unless afk players are punished like toxic players are they will continue to do this and ruin games. Except that toxic players are not punished at all, no matter how often and how many people report them.
: Akali has a 46.4% winrate. She looses most of her games (by far)... All the others are at a stable 52% winrate. Also what about the real broken champions? Champions like Janna, Aurelion, Warwick, Mordekaiser, Shaco, Soraka, Ahri, Maokai, Taric, Kled, Kassadin all have a higher winrate than all the champions you mentioned. Just because you have problems fighting against some champions, doesn't mean that they are op. (I personally ban Brand in 99% of my games, as I hate playing against him) I don't think that the banning system need any change currently. There are a ton of op champions, so it is not possible to just ban broken champions. So it is already stupid to ban those champions and you can just ban what you don't want to play against.^^
> [{quoted}](name=Gnominator,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=wth1Aakm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-13T10:04:23.907+0000) > > I don't think that the banning system need any change currently. There are a ton of op champions, so it is not possible to just ban broken champions. So it is already stupid to ban those champions and you can just ban what you don't want to play against.^^ I'm not going to dive into numbers, because I think everyone's opinion about trash, op, unplayable champs is different **but valid**. But with Riot releasing more and more champions and not properly balancing them or buffing champs just to sell a skin (hello Pyke), we need more bans. If Riot don't have time/will to work on balance anymore, they can do the easy thing at least - give us more ban slots.
Odestriss (EUW)
: > Custom Player-made modes would be great. But with amount of bugs League has it's not possible. I don`t get your Problem if I`m honest. These are just ideas for custom games and it is very much possible to just open up a custom game? > It's kinda hard to decide which champions count as supports. Well, why not diskuss whith your Group which Champions can be picked and which one`s don`t count as supp? Easy fix imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > Don't get it. [Bronze Bravery](https://bronze-bravery.com/). It`s LITERALLY the first site to pop up when you google bronze bravery. The site gives you a random champ and a stupid build. That`s all.
> [{quoted}](name=Odestriss,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=XU4RE7h7,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T11:50:36.373+0000) > > I don`t get your Problem if I`m honest. These are just ideas for custom games and it is very much possible to just open up a custom game? Sorry, maybe I didn't quite explain. Any new mode requires a ton of work. And from what we can see (Riot removing Twisted Treeline and stopping developing even PvE modes), the company doesn't have time/will to implement new modes in the nearest future. So the ideal approach would be to have custom player-made gamemodes like in Overwatch.
Odestriss (EUW)
: Custom Fun Modes
Custom Player-made modes would be great. But with amount of bugs League has it's not possible. > [{quoted}](name=Odestriss,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=XU4RE7h7,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-30T20:44:42.911+0000) > - Supports are OP It's kinda hard to decide which champions count as supports. > [{quoted}](name=Odestriss,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=XU4RE7h7,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-30T20:44:42.911+0000) > - Bronze Bravery Don't get it.
kiwishrew (EUW)
: Stop killing unique and interesting champions because of pro-play
It works in the other direction too. How about when they buffed Pyke just because some pro players underpefrormed in one of the tournaments? Now Pyke is broken and they don't nerf it. How about Ekko, Nocturne, Rengar and Diana that delete you in 0.5 seconds and there is nothing you can do? I agree that Riot balances their game around tournaments instead of the main playerbase.
: and once again inters on my team
The problem is that in order to separate actual inters from people who can't do crap against certain matchup / getting caught Riot would have to manually review games. So.. yeah, no actions will be taken probably.
: As soon as Rito gives a damn about you, the player. A couple of month, I'd guess.
> [{quoted}](name=HaraldTheSlayer,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nfftXcPf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-30T22:53:47.359+0000) > > As soon as Rito gives a damn about you, the player. So.. never? They don't seem to care about anything that is not another tournament.
Rioter Comments
: dark harvest works as intended, it also procs from illaoi soul steal.
> [{quoted}](name=Kitty Cat Nap,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=E6PEOF7V,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-18T09:55:55.600+0000) > > dark harvest works as intended, it also procs from illaoi soul steal. This makes no sense - clone is not a real champion that poses threat (especially in case of Neeko). So what, we can also proc Dark Harvest from Shaco clones? Leblanc clone? Annie's bear? Yorick's ult? https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Champion_summoned_units > A Decoy is a copy of a champion that is only considered a champion for targeting purposes, otherwise considered a pet. I could understand getting basic runes like attack-speed proc from pets, but not something powerful like Dark Harvest.
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: Critical Error in Loading Screen (unable to play League for days)
Same issue. Last patch I constantly got crashes during the loading screen and the game itself. Launcher occasionally crashed too. After Project update I'm getting the same issue as you have.
: Patch 9.14 Client Crashes, Error + Bugsplat
Same. Got bugsplat on a game loading screen several times in a row. Windows 10, but I'm launching the game in the Administrator mode.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rinart73,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BpaX9r9U,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-02T20:22:57.601+0000) > > We weren't standing in her tentacles, but Illaoi herself has enough CC to chase and kill. > And we had CC.. What CC? Illaoi has only one form of CC in her kit and it's her E, which requires her to either kill the spirit or for the target to leave the area, which means she can't chase them anyway. Also, looks at that game, you had two tank killers on your team, neither of which built anti-healing at a point that they should have. And you didn't have CC, at least not enough to deal with her. Out of all your champs, you had only two bits of readily available CC, with a team of mostly short range squishies. Also also, you appear to have been starving your team of kills. Which isn't entirely your fault for the enemy winning, seeing as all your allies were miles behind their opposite number across the board. Ultimately, that loss wasn't entirely because of the Illaoi.
> [{quoted}](name=The7thSeal,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BpaX9r9U,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-02T20:50:44.742+0000) > > Ultimately, that loss wasn't entirely because of the Illaoi. It was. We were completely stomping other enemies.
: Vayne is anti tank, or at least anti beefy champion... so theoretically yes vayne should counter illaoi and to a point she does you just have to be good at vayne
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BpaX9r9U,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-02T20:14:31.797+0000) > > Vayne is anti tank, or at least anti beefy champion... so theoretically yes vayne should counter illaoi and to a point she does you just have to be good at vayne I was playing Lux, but we had Vayne in our team, who claimed that she can easilly kill Illaoi. Well it didn't work.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: yea its hard to kill her when you stand in tentacles and dont have any cc to stop her slamming...
> [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BpaX9r9U,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-02T19:47:51.009+0000) > yea its hard to kill her when you stand in tentacles and dont have any cc to stop her slamming... We weren't standing in her tentacles, but Illaoi herself has enough CC to chase and kill. And we had CC..
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