Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=51hFjmlx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-30T16:26:09.393+0000) > > Nope, the skin was not exclusive. It's a legacy skin, which means it will return at least once a year being able to buy it. The golden chroma however is limited and was only available in 2017, now it isn't available anymore. The same is true with this years chromas. They are also limited and only available now. Once this event ends, the golden chromas will no longer be available and you cannot get them anymore. The chroma should in my opinion be available for tokens. The border should remain exclusive though. People put a lot of effort in to grinding that border last year.
But you also needed to grind for the chroma.
: Well, skin actually was exclusive too. But Riot decide incluse Championship Ashe into shop, so that will be ok if they join gold ashe chroma to event craft.
Nope, the skin was not exclusive. It's a legacy skin, which means it will return at least once a year being able to buy it. The golden chroma however is limited and was only available in 2017, now it isn't available anymore. The same is true with this years chromas. They are also limited and only available now. Once this event ends, the golden chromas will no longer be available and you cannot get them anymore.
: No Championship Ashe chroma, border and icon! WHY?!
The golden Ashe chroma was exclusive to 2017.
: how do you get more missions
Ill bet there will be more missions once the different stages of worlds happen.
exel322 (EUW)
: what mean that championship quest?(Rise:complete 35 worlds minions)
You need to complete 35 other mission to finish that mission. For example you finish the tpa mission, where you need to play with a tpa skin, then your progress will be 1/35. You do the fnatic one and then have 2/35 of the mission done. Do 35 of these missions and you will get your reward.
Fusıon (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=IRLJz88n,discussion-id=VEuIbEcN,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-09-30T12:52:52.804+0000) > > I guess I broke the rules. I didn't want it to turn out like this, really. Hey dont feel bad you just thought there was something wrong thats all. I think you are a good person and im sure no one thinks otherwise. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
I may have broken the naming and shaming rule by accusing another player. I may be the reason for the witchhunt. I may be the reason why people downvoted the post all of a sudden. It could've been a cheat attempt, but it also could be that it was not. And in the latter case, the downvotes are unjustified. This is exactly why the naming and shaming rule is in place, to prevent damage. I have caused damage. And now I experienced that on first hand. The mods will decide if they ban me or not.
Fusıon (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=IRLJz88n,discussion-id=VEuIbEcN,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-09-30T12:43:15.700+0000) > > I'm so sorry. I didn't want it to turn out like this. What happened {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
I guess I broke the rules. I didn't want it to turn out like this, really.
oLuna (EUW)
: Odyssey Contest Entry: Marshmallow Fluff
I'm so sorry. I didn't want it to turn out like this.
: im definitly right but ur gold ass doesnt understand why so i cant explain it to you.
Says a lot about you if you think you know more about others, plus don't actually aknowledge when you're wrong and ontop of that talk condescending to people who are not as good as you at some videogame. I wouldn't be friends with a person like you, just saying.
: Seek help. Do it for the good of your family, you sound dangerous. Someone may end up killed by you, you get mad easily. I know people like you.
Ima stop for real now lol. If I continue you're just going to snap eventually and you seriously get banned, which I really don't want to provoke. But I still want to give you advice: Don't take stupid things seriously. And most importantly don't feed the trolls, especially not like you just did in this conversation. I hope you'll learn from this. Have a good night sweetheart <3
: how do you "punish" Zed after he uses W?
Engage on him or zone him away. Without W he has no mobility and also not much damage, as he only got a single W and E. When your jungler ganks you, Zed is basically dead if his W is down. If you can kill him, just do it.
: current State of Jayce?
I thought my gold ass doesn't understand the game, but this guy right here consistantly proves me that I know more than I think. How can you be so wrong all the time about pretty much every champion you post about?
: Shaco struggle
You need to build him onhit. Rush Bloodrazor into Tiamat. This provides fast clears which helps you farm. Then go for Triforce and Duskblade for damage. Then you can finish Hydra. Early on, somewhere in between those items, you want to buy boots and upgrade them depending on the matchup. The last 2 items are matchup dependant and how good you were doing so far. Go Youmuus, Edge of Night or Essence Reaver for damage. Go Guardian Angle, Maw or Deaths Dance for defence.
ramyon (EUW)
: i quit.
: Zed mini rework concept
Zed needs a different passive. His laning is far to safe for what he is. He is an assasin, but with his waveclear and long range poke he also is kinda like an AD mage. The only real drawback he has is he is melee, but his passive compensates for that, making his farming as good if not even better than any ranged champion. The passive you suggests is cool honestly, because it is technically the same but cannot used effectively during laningphase. You could, but that would but your W on cooldown. I don't know if the numbers are alright, but the I really like this concept of a passive. I think the changes to the other parts are not necessary.
: i was refering to high skillcap. Maybe to master, but to play effeciently, zoe is...pretty darn low. The damage nerfs that hit the wrong part of zoes kit(which is everything BUT her w) could easly be reverted(And thus w properly nerfed). Then again, it's just my opinion and apparently, opinions don't matter here. (Seeing how everyone starts %%%%ing running over everybody who complains about clunkyness of BE system, clunkyness of an assasin or some other systems that frustrate players hardcore without people even noticing the connection)
Have you ever seen Bjergsen play Zoe? It's disgusting what you can do with her once you mastered her. One oneshot after the other.
: errm...zoe?
She literally has the 3rd lowest winrate. https://i.imgur.com/qXfob9g.png It's kind of unbelievable that I even have to defend myself. I mean do you check stats yourself?
11Urban (EUNE)
: Riot Logic
Oh no. Getting honored actually requires people to be honorable. Stupid Riot. Honor shouldn't require someone being honorable, I mean how are toxic people going to get honor level 5? The whole system is unfair and biased against toxic people. This is so sad. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: The toxicity in this game is out of control...
And here I am having not met a single toxic person in this season. I guess back when people talked about "League is dying" and "People are quitting for good", only the toxic people left lmao {{sticker:sg-poppy}}
Rismosch (EUW)
: This is where you are mistaken. A knockback is technically the same as a knock up, with the sole difference that the knockup doesn't move the player. If a target can make it over the wall with the knockback distance, then it will fly over it. If not, it will not go over the wall. Simply as that. Alistar hit W on Morgana on a specific angle that hit her, but did not send her over the wall. He then flashed and hits Q on Missfortune. He never hits Morgana with Q and the wall is to thick to send Morgana over it. Go in the practice tool and test it. If you place the dummy right in front of the wall and W it, then it will fly over it. If you try to kick it over the thickest part of the wall however, the dummy will fly at least as far as to hit the wall, but not over it.
EDIT: While experimenting with the practice tool a little bit more, I discovered that Alistar actually did hit Q on Morgana. As it turns out, the hitbox of Alistar Q is far bigger than the cracks it forms on the ground. This is the real reason why Morgana got knocked up: The Q hitbox is kinda large. But the explanation I had initially would've worked aswell if you hit a very specific angle.
Xandour (EUNE)
: W doesn't knock-UP it knocks-BACK... except if you land the Q alongside with it... and here is where the "bug"-interactions comes into play
This is where you are mistaken. A knockback is technically the same as a knock up, with the sole difference that the knockup doesn't move the player. If a target can make it over the wall with the knockback distance, then it will fly over it. If not, it will not go over the wall. Simply as that. Alistar hit W on Morgana on a specific angle that hit her, but did not send her over the wall. He then flashed and hits Q on Missfortune. He never hits Morgana with Q and the wall is to thick to send Morgana over it. Go in the practice tool and test it. If you place the dummy right in front of the wall and W it, then it will fly over it. If you try to kick it over the thickest part of the wall however, the dummy will fly at least as far as to hit the wall, but not over it.
Xandour (EUNE)
: Then how did Morgana get Knocked-up?
Xandour (EUNE)
: With the same exact logic Yasuo would be able to bayblade and Knockup both targets, the initial and the flash one... This can be said with many more champions that have a same AOE-instant knockup. On the clip above Alistar's Pulverize affects both areas at the same time (where Morgana is and also where MF is) which shouldn't happen?
You aren't looking correctly. Alistar never lands Q on Morgana.
: treffen tut man ja. aber das hat ja nichts mit dem schaden zu tun. ist ja kein skillshot... mit sivirs schild geht das ja auch. und die blockt den ganzen spell...
Ne eben nicht. Der AA wird geblockt und damit auch alles was damit zu tun hat. Die Tentakel greifen nur an wenn du einen AA auf den Gegner landest. Wird er geblockt hast du nichts getroffen. Somit greifen auch keine Tentakel an.
Dreugan (EUW)
: Legacy icons.
It's impossible to get the Riven icon, as she didn't won.
: Pantheon passive makes Illaoi useles
Die Tentakel greifen die an die du mit W triffst. Wenn die W nicht trifft, wie sollen dann die Tentakel angreifen?
Xandour (EUNE)
: Alistar Pulverize - Bug or just the sickest interaction?
No of course not. Why should it be a bug?
: KaTaRiNa Is FiNe
Exactly where a high skill champion should be. You don't complain about Zoe, Azir and Ryze, do you?
: i dont get why every time in low elo when you go
I haven't seen the "sell your skin"-insult in literal years. Is this really still a thing?!
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: I think the question should be: "Why CertainlyT is still allowed to design anything?"
It's not just CertainlyT, it's also all the people he worked with, who said nothing against it, the head designers who acknowledged this and Riot for realeasing this. One person might have designed these broken champions, but several people had no objection whatsoever.
KNÍGHT (EUNE)
: The greed is real =P
on both sides that is
: BANNED? for what?
\> says there was no reason for the ban \> at the same time provides reason why he got banned never gets old
: Well no... if someone tries to propose a a change a very valid response and one which is frequently correct when it comes to descussion like this is to say it’s unnecessary. So he did judge your idea, he said that it’s not needed and your issue can be solved by improving your match up skill (remember his poke gets reduced in power if he hits a minion first as it doesn’t deal full damage beyond the first target hit... so a minion cover could be a good solution)
Me knowing how to play a certain way doesn't change the fact that a champion works a certain way. Zed pokes you, hits you with it, you lose half your HP. It doesn't matter how you could've prevented that. What matters is that if he hits it, he punishes you way too hard for it. It was like the Zoe debacle. She did insane damage, but you could've just dodged it and be fine. Just like Zed with proper counterplay you could negate most if not all of Zoes damage, it's just that if she hit, you died. Or how about the time when Talon was OP? Good map awareness and proper macroplay counter him hard. Or how about Kindred? Sure she becomes OP everytime Riot decides to buff her, but you could still just jungle properly and counter everything she does. Or what was with Death Fire Touch Brand back in the day? Just dodge his abilities and he literally does no damage. My point is, counterplay and knowing how to play a certain matchup doesn't justify aweful game mechanics. And this is why most comments here are off topic. How to play against Zed doesn't matter. What matters are the actual mechanics that Zed uses and how you could tune them to make Zed a more balanced champion. And a champ not being OP doesn't certainly mean they are balanced. I am not complaining that Zed is too strong. I am telling that Zed is not balanced and could be a more fair champion with the right tuning of his interactions with the runesystem. I am aware that Zed is below 50% winrate, though I think this is rather because he is a tuned down OP champion rather than a balanced one.
Kªtarina (EUW)
: Lay out???
It's intentional. They said it's for the upcomming ranked changes in season 9.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Idea to nerf Zed
I feel like no one really understands what I was suggesting. I never said he needs a nerf or that he is too strong, it's just it's unfun to play against him. A change like I suggest could make him more balanced and more fun to play against, as he wouldn't chunk more than half your HP with just poke alone. Ann it is just a little, if not entirley unsignificant change. I mean I suggested nothing like a number change or something, like everyone is pointing out. Zed would still do the same damage if he goes all in. If such a change would turn out to hit hard, you can up the numbers again.
: its on-topic as he is an assassin so does alot of dmg, thats kinda his point. if you play correctly against him his dmg is a non issue thus on topic
Sure it is off topic. I suggested a balance update an you come here and lecture me how I should play against him instead of judging the idea.
: i dont understand this personally, Zed is a none issue for me in lane, and i main lux and squishy mages. rush hourglass take stopwatch in your runes = win be aggressive pre 6, punish mistakes. SHOVE THE LANE if he roams (its unlikely you can beat him to the lane he is ganking) or backs. i cant remember the last time i lost to a zed, oh and remember he can use his shadow and proc electrocute if you go in for basic attacks. id personally recommend using more of your abilities to farm even if you like to conserve your mana. and remember 0/0/0 is a win against a zed after laneing phase and 1 for 1 is never worth for an assassin like zed punish him but this is coming from a scrub vs other scrubs sooooo
Kinda off topic dude. I never claimed Zed is unbalanced or something, rather he does too much damage with what should be poke.
Rioter Comments
MAestRIO (EUW)
: Kai'Sa outclasses too many adc's
imo Kai'Sa should do adaptive damage. Physical damage if she has alot of AD and magic damage if she has alot of AP, not both. Her mixed damage makes it impossible to itemize against her. She goes for a build which makes all her abilities scale and she does too much different kinds of damage. Personally I like Kai'Sas kit. It's cool and on paper it is balanced and fair, but the mixed damage totally ruins this.
Proppa (EUW)
: Any tips for ADC?
rightclick and win
Kurotsu (EUW)
: If you had to name your future child a league name, what would it be?
Lord Van Damm's Pillager {{item:3104}} is a great childs name.
wolf jade (EUNE)
: just me or Character mode way to big?
I guess the zoomed in camera and long thin legs make him appear taller than he actually is.
: more like overestimated
lmao those downvotes I mean she has to be the most underrated champion in the game. No one bans her. No one talks about her anymore. But if someone picks her, she %%%%s everyone.
: the RNG is when SPAWNING enemies
I tried to explain you now 2 times why this isn't a problem. At this point you just don't want to understand.
: yes there is, there are 2 or 3 variations for each map (ever noticed the long one sometimes has Ora at the end of it and sometimes doesn't?) also, kayn starts randomly in one of his forms, then alternates them, if it wasn't random he would always start normal, then go one of the other two and end with the third. Also, sometimes he keeps dashing and knocking you back, sometimes he doesnt. sometimes you get 3 giant ora bugs in a map, sometimes you don't. this thing is FULL of RNG and that's the worst thing you could do to a gamemode.
I told you there is no RNG when killing enemies, neither is there if you die. You lose if you suck. You win if you beat it. Is this too difficult to understand? There is literally no RNG in that system. You see a particulary enemy and play around them if it's skarner, you stay as a team and run away. If it's Vel'Koz you fight him melee. if it's Kog'Maw, you either CC him, or use windwall to cancle his attacks. If it's Ornn, you dodge his skillshot. It's actually pretty simple.
: then remove the RNG, make enemies to the same attacks in the same order, THAT'S where skill can be used.
There's no RNG. Just the enemies are different sometimes. There is no diceroll when killing enemies, nor is there a diceroll when you die. There are enemies, whatever kind they may be, and you need to beat them. You can dodge everything (except skarner, and even him you can counter with teamwork) and kill everything without anything that is out of your control. You either are good enaugh, survive and win, or you are not and die. It's difficult.
Ilovemobas (EUNE)
: According to you who is the most underrated champion in this game?
: Riot, do you realize
> Dark Souls is hard because it was built from the ground up to be like that, it's a game that's meant to challenge you and everything in that game is made to be hard but not impossible, you just need skill. Let's turn this one around. Odyssey is hard because it was build up from the ground and supposed to be a challange. It's difficult, but not impossible. You just need skill. Sure Odyssey used Leagues base mechanics and champions, but excpet for this Odyssey could be a completely new game. New map, enemies which aren't particulary the same as the champions, obstacles like these lasers or nami-bubble-plants, and not to mention the augments. The monsters swarm you and you as a player need to navigate properly and dodge all the time, and finally kill all the monsters. The mode reminds me an aweful lot of bullet hell shooter and especially the videogame Furi when playing Yasuo. There are many many enemies/attacks, you need to dodge those attacks, survive them and then you win. The whole difficulty is achieved by swarming the player, just like literally any other bullet hell shooter. Its the thrill that anything could kill you that makes it fun. But I assume you've never played a bullet hell shooter if you are reacting to odyssey is like this. My point is, the mode is pretty simmelar to bullet hell shooters and is difficult in the same exact way. And it appeals to people, and just because you don't like it it doesn't have to be bad. You can try some bullet hell games and then complain to their devs how "unreasonably difficult" and "cheap" their games are.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ni3mG7uj,comment-id=000b0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:07:26.737+0000) > > This one: > https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/forum-games-contests-en/I0meG6GA-ebt-2018-the-european-boards-tournament-is-back Oh this one. But it says seperate tournaments so basically gold is not matched vs diamond or something. Is that really what happened? Where the hell is the fairness?!?
It was split into low elo and high elo. Low elo was bronze and silver (even though some golds played in there) and high elo was gold+, so basically everything from gold to challenger. Luckily the highest one was diamond 2, but even that is absurdly high.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ni3mG7uj,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2018-09-23T16:51:26.581+0000) > > Not mmr. I took place in a tournament, and it was the worst experience I have ever had. I was in a team with several other gold players and played against pure platinum and diamond teams. The matches are doomed from the get go, but you can&#x27;t surrender, because then you get zero points. You at least get one point for participating. Can&#x27;t even troll and try to have fun this way, because then you get disqualified and get nothing. So here we are, forced to play mutliple 30 minute games which are all totally onesided and we all get our ass teared wide open. > > This is not fun. This is the opposite of fun. It&#x27;s worse than solo queue. Solo queue is far better than this, because in solo queue I at least know that everyone is an idiot, including the enemy. And the fact that everyone is _somewhat_ my skilllevel gives me the opportunity to even carry games. But in a tournament like this, I and my teammates just feed our asses off for 30 minutes, even though we try not to. It was truely the worst thing I&#x27;ve ever experienced. Was this clash? Or like a big event where you live? If clash then this is literally not supposed to be allowed...being placed vs higher elo.
This one: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/forum-games-contests-en/I0meG6GA-ebt-2018-the-european-boards-tournament-is-back
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