: 1. Wrong, I don't like him as a person at all. Does not mean I should ignore the fact that he played ok while being sick 2. Have been watching worlds for like 10 years, seen 0 evidence of any conspiracy theories you bullsht about 3. Even if I loved caps why do you tell others its mistake? Are you on drugs? Why are you telling people how they should feel about smb? Does the fact that you love faker make him and everything he does perfect? If yes, then you have my condolences. P.S. And speaking about my personal feelings - I love Broxah, but that does not change the fact that he was a deadweight during this worlds like 80% of the time. Big guy was not in form. See? That's an example how people usually divide their personal feelings and their judgement
You lost the argument completely the moment you began harassing. You are reported.
Torkl (EUW)
: When you take a trollpick like neeko mid you deserve to lose :P
: First off, I'm an SKT fan. I was since they won their first worlds series. I root for them each year, I buy their bundles to support them financially as well. So let's get this out of the way. On the other hand, I love G2 as well, and since they're OUR team, I didn't mind that my favourite team lost. If it was a FPX vs SKT thing, I would have, but not this one. About the MVP thing, I disagree. He didn't perform well on neeko (flash ulted for a kled + a zhonya user) then died. On ryze he heavily underperformed compared to the expectations we all had, since that's his signature pick. On quianna, he failed his ult A BUNCH of times, and got caught in crucial points of the match. Their support also heavily underperformed. The SKT toplaner, Khan, had a MUCH GREATER IMPACT, on his Renekton, than Faker in any of his games. #G2 won fair and square. Do I feel bad ? A bit. But then again, about Faker.... he's a superstar and a LOL icon, and will be forever. He earns more in a year than your average college graduate in a lifetime. Let's not cry ourselves into depression because he lost a championship.
He won't be forever... Look at Toyz.
: " It's a game don't berate people " Literally next line : "proceeds to insult caps" "proceeds to insult Eu with some random conspiracy theories" All I can reply is MUHAHAHAHAHAH. I guess the real worlds winner is TSM in that case
So here it is: 1. You love Caps, 2. You don't understand how the world works, especially in Esports. Glad you highlighted your own mistakes...
: > [{quoted}](name=Shadowflame,realm=EUW,application-id=N9uP9Byj,discussion-id=P0iTL6RV,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-11-04T00:22:06.662+0000) > > I didn't downvote you cause I'm an SKT fanboy. God knows I enjoyed nothing more than seeing them lose. But you saying faker is the reason they lost is just bullshit. Without faker, the game would never have gotten to a point where he could have "thrown" (although I think you're just not giving G2 enough credit for smartly catching him out in most cases) since G2 would have stood in SKT's base at 22 minutes with a dancing herald. > This is the same kind of logic your bronzeass teams will use when they're all 1/7 and you're there carrying your ass off for 40 mins going 20/2 and then you die once at a bad time and it's somehow your fault you lost? Bro my death would never have mattered that much if any of y'all were not completely useless. 1) How is the story of your league life relevant to the topic? The real bullsht is when people project their PERSONAL issues everywhere 2) " Without faker, the game would never have gotten to a point where he could have "thrown" " By that do you mean if they were playing 4v5? Sure, you can't win 4v5 at pro lvl 3) Have you really watched the games? At least try game 3 deciding fight around 24:30 - Faker does 0(!!!!!!!) dmg because he struggles to decide how to go around the wall. Any midlaner from top 8 would have played better 4) Caps was sick today, so faker was playing with a handicap, still struggled to outperform
Can you calm down? This is a game, don't berate people. Caps was sick, but he is also sleezy. Faker is anything but sleezy. The sleeziest player won. Don't act like EU hasn't been drilling Korea for unfair advantages.. You know full well how many people are stalking Faker. The real winner was SKT. It is clear by the team dynamic. You can say G2 all you want. I don't care about results, I care about the battle. Everyone knows SKT won the battle. G2 won the sleeziness.
: 1) He was not an MVP, please rewatch the series. He got caught in a couple of crucial times, especially game 4 2) SKT refused to bootcamp in EU before the worlds, thinking they are already better than others. Such arrogance brought them a well deserved loss. They should be happy with top 4 result - its much better than last year 3) Faker personally got top 1 from all top 20 players we have seen - that's more than enough for him Also you write about EUW ego... How about you check the ego of your korean idols? Recently faker claimed that only korea deserves the championship and their region is #1 P.S. Oh look skt fanboys are downvoting with no reply again.
I don't have time to reply, sorry if you think I downvoted ya
s u n g 7 (EUW)
: If you think op.gg is the reason ure losin games then ure fkd anyway.. :D
It is, look at the downvotes mate.
Flow1999 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Seto Køiba,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=93otORq1,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-11-03T17:45:08.569+0000) > > Let them see my weaknesses. I don't have weaknesses. If I have a weakness, it's you. And that's not a joke :) Ranked Solo Silver 2 19 LP / 279W 302L Win Ratio 48% Are you serious? You don't have weaknesses? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
That's not a weakness. I used to be plat 2. If you call that weakness, then you are in for a beating when you hit solo queue buddy.
: Or you realize you get targeted and play like the biggest fortress, hugging tower and making them waste time while your jungler (hopefully) does something on the map, away from the camp.
This does not work in most games. This is really stupid advice. It will work in 1 in 100 games. People learn this tactic very early on...
: If you want to ban opgg and all sites who let you know what your teammates play in champ select while also removing match history from the game/boards,how else am I supposed to know my teammates are not trolling with their picks? I'm not going to play a game where there's a 20/25% chance I will win.
True, but this turns into Riot's problem, not yours. If you dodge, they ruin other games. You have not reported them. Your MMR in effect is inflated compared to your elo. You are in an elo you do not deserve to be in, because your team is better than you now. Suddenly you become the factor that holds people back. You see why Riot needs to be involved in this? Abusing op.gg is a lose-lose scenario. You win, 9 PLUS other people lose. You are stealing other player's success by abusing something they refuse to. Because not everyone wants to be a sleezy nerd who op.ggs and chooses to focus the best player. That is really nasty. Imagine if you won the marathon, and every thief started focusing your house to steal your money. Because this is precisely what happens. Riot needs to flat out ban op.gg, asap.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: No. First thing is there are many games, made only to be lost and without prior information a dodge isn't possible. Second thing is it is a team game and it should always be "better team" winning, queueing is solo so that it brings out best potential in each role; if we want we should remove duo queue because it inflates ratings and easy to abuse. Lastly, the api can be tracked even without sites like op.gg from LoL's data itself-these sites are popular because it is very simple to get data. Like we can write a code to actually do all stuff that op.gg does or any other site does, come up with our own metrics and statistics corresponding to each role.
Other games ban those APIs and ban those players who abuse it. For example, Pokemon Go. Because it goes against the spirit of their game, and butchers it. Your whole argument has fallen, because it does not apply to a bigger sample.
: Who is the champion that's played so rarely, that gets you surprised when you see him in-game ?
{{champion:126}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:30}}
: I despise SKT with a passion. Mostly because of their fanbase. That said, I've always had nothing but respect for Faker. He's an amazing player and his dedication to the game is unrivalled. He isn't just any player. He is the face of the league esports scene. I really hope he won't end his career because of this loss. He was an integral part in getting SKT the leads they had in the early game. If not for him, G2 would have just steamrolled SKT. I wish him nothing but the best for his future career. May he return to worlds again next year. Of course I still hope he gets beaten by an EU team again next year. WHOO FNC!
Lol if it was Fnatic with Xpeke, I would legit buy tickets to worlds to shake his hand in person!
jacktjong (EUW)
: I think it would be more of an insult to Faker to give him some sort of participation award or a leg up than to let him lose fair and square. He just needs to learn that when he puts in all his effort and loses that he either needs to improve or accept the loss. If he put in all his effort he should be proud of it and try harder next time.
No I think he needs a trophy. Athletics leaves a tremendous toll of your mind when you fail. Especially when it is obvious that Faker probably has Zed dreams, because he spends each second on league. I think being given 3 complete novices on your team really sucks. And then versing 5 veterans with 200 games experience in Worlds. And then playing in a 5v5, where solo Q skill becomes useless, because in 5v5, there is a common dynamic of "trusting your team." Essentially that means, 'Faker, you have stop thinking now, and rely on your jungler's solo Q skills, instead of your own.' Which means if his jungler fails, Faker gets taken down, and there is nothing he can do. Working harder is a really toxic myth. You need to always work smarter. Working harder only leads to burn out and retirement and messed up thinking. Just look at Toyz. Toyz won worlds. Then got carpal tunnel. Then kept getting outplayed because he was too old in terms of gameplay strats. And then he got hooked into the shady business of his team, forcing him to lose. A player can only do so much. I think SKT needs to improve a huge amount. If Usain Bolt can hold a record, Faker must be given something to place him back in the race. And I do think Riot might have to improve too. But it's their game. I just hate seeing veterans crumble after consistently hitting high rankings. Then again, it feels better to be 3rd place than 2nd. So, I guess time will tell.
: Nah i don't feel bad. The match was fair. Korea isn't the only powerhouse in league esports anymore so he needs to improve to be at the top again.
Fair match, yes. The better team won. I just hope Faker gets coached really well, so he could win worlds. Because I got a feeling that G2 is going to wreck China.
: I mean, you object your statement in the same sentence like 3 times.
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: Why would anyone focus the barely positive K/D, negative winrate zed main? You're getting focused cause you play mid. ezpz
It's not -ve... https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Seto+K%C3%B8iba Ya silly billy lol
Kurotsu (EUW)
: That made no sense
Of course it didn't. You just told me your weaknesses, I don't have weaknesses. I am being objective.
: i can understand that those sited r used but they shouldn't be accessable while in game. premades/smurfs abuse this just to target 1 lane and get easy wins.
: > [{quoted}](name=Seto Køiba,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=93otORq1,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-03T15:42:45.114+0000) > > Wow 13 downvotes. Clearly a lot of people abuse this... yea only lowlifes whould downvote this.
I was rly suprised :P
Febos (EUW)
: You're putting a target on your back by complaining about downvotes. It's like you're asking for that to happen. You should know League is full of jesters who **love** to mess with other people. By showing weakness - in this case by showing you're affected by downvotes - you're "inviting" them to double down on what upsets you. Lesson for the day: don't show your weaknesses to the trolls, especially not on the Internet.
Let them see my weaknesses. I don't have weaknesses. If I have a weakness, it's you. And that's not a joke :)
: There are tons of websites that let you see match history, it isn't just op.gg.
But they all get it from drilling from Riot..
: > [{quoted}](name=Seto Køiba,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=93otORq1,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-03T15:42:07.353+0000) > > No...no you cannot. You have to use 2 accounts. Or 2 computers. Which is very difficult. Op.gg is very easy to use, and abuse. Should be removed. https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/42307071
: Is it possible to ban op.gg?
Wow 13 downvotes. Clearly a lot of people abuse this...
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Seto Køiba,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=93otORq1,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-03T14:18:25.115+0000) > > I hate being op.gged and being focused. You know that I can just look at your match history without using OP.GG, right?
No...no you cannot. You have to use 2 accounts. Or 2 computers. Which is very difficult. Op.gg is very easy to use, and abuse. Should be removed.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Why? I mean, there are many similar sites and personally I use leagueofgraphs along with op.gg during champ select.
Because it goes against the spirit of the game of solo queue. Let the better solo player win...
Horrible username, you get my report too...
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: To be honest, league is a good cut through of people you encounter in retail service. You can get some serious shit there as well. That out of the way...the reason it is this way is 1)Matchmaking is horrible 2) Smurfing is not bannable=imbalanced matches=outside of eloboosting nobody gets banned for ruining games. so everyone does this 3) IFS takes what... 10-16 games to actually trigger a punishment?
Elo boosters get insta banned. It's not rocket science to find them. Smurf are easy to spot, and they go up ranks easily anyway. Don't be obsessed with punishing. It reflects what kind of person you are. Don't go for revenge, go for improvement, otherwise stay out of ranked, because you will not understand the competitiveness at all. Ranked is not for fun, it's for doing your best and winning. If you get scared from competitive people, then you need to stick to draft mode. If you are willing to take on the competitive, then do ranked. Match making will never be PERFECT in a group of 10 random people. This is not basketball. You aren't in a team, you are with 4 randoms, and you literally need to carry them. If you can't do that, then play flex, or better yet, draft mode. Seriously.
: That is our plat for you I stopped playing solo Q ever since i dropped from Plat 1 to plat 4 because of gameslike these
No...plat is like this...you need to be better...
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FlameClub (EUNE)
: Im gonna lose my shitt!
Report the aatrox
JustTits (EUNE)
: Despite 10 years have passed, even the highest ELO players are frustrated
Because it is exactly the same in real life. But you got to accept it, and keep improving. You got to hit breaking point, and carry on sprinting, all by yourself. Only that way will you climb in time. So when a person has a bad game, ignore it. So they can improve. You want the same for you right? So set the example. And 10 years ago, people are waaaay more toxic. A diamond support/mid main, kicked his processor really hard when his s3 placements placed him in silver 2. So you need to respect the beta mains :P
: Plat, Eune, this happed
Maybe pick a stronger champ that tryn? He's strictly split push. And in plat, you will get waaaay tougher games with strong champs. So you need to get your foundations perfect. I have lost games in plat 2, when everyone played perfectly. But to get to plat 1, you need to use your lateral thinking. You really need to get your foundations strong man. Don't pick tryn, he's cheese, yes, but you need to carry other lanes. And have a positive mentality. Plat is tough, so be tough. The adc matches you in cs, and he died 7 times, means you are doing something very wrong.
: A great tip if you are mid and struggling to win
I am going to use this comment to add tips for you guys to use in solo queue :) Hopefully new players will remember these tips. I am only selecting the ones I remember that helped me in plat, so you get good quickly: 1. Dodge when a troll champion is locked in. 2. Dodge when autofilled, because, you main your main role. I know you get leaver queue, so do not do it too often. I know this point is controversial, but it helped me a lot. 3. Don't pick a new champ in ranked (when you got a high elo), only use it in draft 1000 games, THEN use it in ranked. Because new champs will make you fall hard in ranked. And leave you tilted. Unless if you have another account which is of significantly low ranked level. That is because training new champs in difficult environments will make you good quickly. Just do not butcher your main account. Not being in high elo brackets, will ruin your skill completely. 4. Use mute all. You will find a lot of really toxic players. It is best to mute them. They will sap your finite amount of emotional energy in 1 game. You need to be spamming games, not counselling bad people.
dvtrr (EUNE)
1 word: Jayce
: SImple, climbing in the last couple of days is not worth. Just sit back, relax, and prepare a new strategy once the preseason hits. Stressing about rank before the season's end is not smart. Climbing is best done before summer.
It is always worth, you get the most serious players in the last days.
Krilldop (EUW)
: In my opinion, for people that are stuck (me for example) the preseaon is the best for learn our mistakes or focus in learning a small group of champions to start the season with our best potential and climb as much as we can.
No, you are wasting opportunities by not versing serious players. EDIT: Go play some ranked, find out how to unstuck yourself by pushing yourself to breaking point, then add me, and I will tell you your mistakes.
Andrey0345 (EUNE)
: Here's my advice - just wait for the new season... You'll have the entire year to grind for w/e rank you want instead of one week.
VERY bad advice. Even in post season, pros player ranked. Ranked gets your skill at a high level. Don't do otherwise.
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Shamose (EUW)
: I'm used to toxic people, but this person just crossed the line.
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. You have my condolences. That's the most toxic player I have seen in my whole 7 years of lol gaming.
Hahrimazd (EUW)
: Yes he is shaming him because of what he said. I still reported his thread.
dattista (EUW)
: what is considered a carry?
If someone carried you, it means that a player won the game for you. If someone is a carry, it could mean that they are adc or apc. Also, if someone is a carry, they are owning the enemy team hard. An uncarry, is someone that can't be carried. A jim-carry is someone who pretends to be something it aint, and gets paid for it. EDIT: Ignore the last 2, they don't exist yet.
: > But it is strictly bot lane (meta). Is it? sooo.......Yi, Yasuo and Trynd aren't ADCs then? After all, they do most of their damage with auto attacks (yasuo Q is essentially an auto attack) and deal physical damage. Also I'm pretty sure I've seen the likes of Tristana, Corki, Ezreal and Lucian in solo lanes. In fact, I'm watching the Splyce vs SKT quarterfinal and there is a Lucian in the top lane.
Ye...this is for new players. Don't confuse them. I said meta, which means meta. It does not mean Splyce vs SKT. It means meta. Don't be sarcastic in these forums. These are for new players to get good. Show some decency man.
AllBear (EUW)
: I am not a liar. I am simply reinforcing what Wandering Mist said, and in those conversations you said some really deep stuff. It did not make sense but just because you are studying to become a doctor you said you were more intelligent and that you will win in any argument. Now with that kind of attitude and how you try to exert yourself, you will not get very far. Its truly a great shame, you have the knowledge but a shit personality.
Er no. Don't put words into my mouth. You're blaming your team, and now you are lying. How about you admit your mistakes. That will help you a huge amount.
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AllBear (EUW)
: When his name was Wryneck, I knew this person In my list. You are right, he is knowledgeable and at the start I liked him, but wow his tone changes later and I still have screenshots of the conversation with him because they were just so awful. He is so insulting and he thinks he is the best because of what he is learning in real life (Medicine or something). I'm warning everyone, he knows his stuff but he is a terrible person, I have blocked him since in-game. If you require screens of the kind of things he said, just contact me in-game. Peace.
You can, but before that, you were blaming your team. I told you many times to not do that. You will wind up anyone with your mentality. Even then, I re-added you. You can place your screenshots. Even in the screenshots you are defenseless, because you are a liar. Do not expect to climb with your bad attitude.
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