72 VirJhins (EUNE)
: Smurf looking for a duo
What elo are you smurfing from ?
Key say Hey (EUNE)
: LP from Ranked
The problem with this is that KDA doesn't mean all that much in the long run. High elo players know that if you're losing a game then you have to take risky plays to have a chance at turning the game around, if they taxe you LP per death then people would give up when the score is 0-5 in case they get taxed extra LP for dying in a risky play. There's so many ways in which a system where a robot determins your LP loss or gain via statistics in one particular game, it would make the game so boring and unfun to play, especially at higher elo where people would understand and care about the way their playstyle would affect their LP. It's a nice thought, but in practice it doesn't really work.
SepharU (EUNE)
: Well. I have 2 other acc where i am Gold 1 and Gold 4, so ill stick with the same, Ward and dont do sumb shit!
> [{quoted}](name=SepharU,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=8Ym7Es8o,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-01T09:58:56.786+0000) > > Well. > > I have 2 other acc where i am Gold 1 and Gold 4, so ill stick with the same, Ward and dont do sumb shit! Gold is still considered as low elo
: Well I know how to play my main with an utter shit support, do you? It's not like I'm going to Worlds or anything, I just play solo queue and try to get better at it. Running around, pointing fingers, and dodging games because I don't like stuff won't get me any further. That's my point. But hey - let me know how it worked out for your LCS career by dodging your way up to it. PS: Since you climb so hard due to your dodging abilities
> [{quoted}](name=Tenchuu Khan,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1xge3Jcq,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-01T02:38:33.898+0000) > > Well I know how to play my main with an utter shit support, do you? > > It's not like I'm going to Worlds or anything, I just play solo queue and try to get better at it. Running around, pointing fingers, and dodging games because I don't like stuff won't get me any further. > > That's my point. > > > But hey - let me know how it worked out for your LCS career by dodging your way up to it. > > PS: > Since you climb so hard due to your dodging abilities It's as if you think that dodging gives an unfair advantage, it's just about not playing games that you don't want to play. I rarely dodge, unless there is some real big problem. You're actually crazy if you think that's all it takes to get to plat III. But hey, don't listen to me, you've been silver and low gold the past 3 seasons, so clearly you've improved a heck of a lot with your no dodging regime. Dodging is only good if you can spot a bad comp, and for that then you need gameknowledge and a generally good understanding of the fundamentals of the game. Perhaps you lack the ability to see a good time to dodge.
SepharU (EUNE)
: I got 2 things that will make u atleast climb out of bronze.. Ward, and dont do dumb shit!
> [{quoted}](name=SepharU,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=8Ym7Es8o,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-31T21:53:03.892+0000) > > I got 2 things that will make u atleast climb out of bronze.. > > Ward, and dont do dumb shit! That's beyond vague, giving advice like that is pretty much pointless, it just sounds egotistical. I will remind you that Silver IV is barely out Bronze, and that you'll often be placed with bronze players when in Silver IV.
: There's a difference between dodging a game as a last resort or acting like it's a feature that needs improvement ;) It's not like I don't understand the concept of dodging games - I've been there too. I mean - I used to dodge games and sent support tickets to riot because someone trolled extra hard in select. Like: someone that says he's gonna feed and all. The issue is - you dodge trolls, then you dodge shit picks, then you dodge matchups you don't like. It simply makes you a worse player. At least I can say for myself that sticking with: I play anything that comes along and do my best - and when my teammate's an ass I have to do better, made me a better player. Same goes for surrendering games btw.
> [{quoted}](name=Tenchuu Khan,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1xge3Jcq,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-12-31T22:56:53.876+0000) > > There's a difference between dodging a game as a last resort or acting like it's a feature that needs improvement ;) > > It's not like I don't understand the concept of dodging games - I've been there too. > I mean - I used to dodge games and sent support tickets to riot because someone trolled extra hard in select. Like: someone that says he's gonna feed and all. > > The issue is - you dodge trolls, then you dodge shit picks, then you dodge matchups you don't like. It simply makes you a worse player. > > > At least I can say for myself that sticking with: I play anything that comes along and do my best - and when my teammate's an ass I have to do better, made me a better player. > Same goes for surrendering games btw. It in no way makes you a worse player, I have a 57% winrate, which shows that my method is deffinetly a good way to climb. I started off this season being placed bronze 2 (I was silver 2 in season 6) and I climbed and improved to plat III lvl, even though I know I can definitely climb higher than that, since I don't find the games very difficult yet. There are times when I have been forced into playing bad games (promo games mainly) and I have managed to rise to the challenge,but it's an unnecessary hasle and is usually more time gated than skill based.
N0ZOMI (EUNE)
: Happy new year man
> [{quoted}](name=nDieDam,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=8Ym7Es8o,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-31T19:26:57.898+0000) > > Happy new year man Thanks ^^
Rioter Comments
: yeah, i do have one complaint about him tho, his wind wall needs to "start" at a small distance from him, so he can't block stuff that actually hit him (happened to me a couple of times) say, 50-100 units from him.
> [{quoted}](name=MirirPaladin,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=04XAK3aF,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-31T17:50:58.682+0000) > > yeah, i do have one complaint about him tho, his wind wall needs to "start" at a small distance from him, so he can't block stuff that actually hit him (happened to me a couple of times) say, 50-100 units from him. It's just part of how he works, some projectles move so fast that he'd not be able to block it otherwise
kmph2mps (EUNE)
: Champion Idea: Master of Puppets
The caster gets 1 auto'd by an ADC late-game. Not sure about this one, it sounds like it'd be way too hard to balance, and all around impractical to play. I think the problem is that you're focusing too much on it only being a puppet master. I understand you don't want it to be like Azir, but you can do that by having the character himself do most of the attacks, and only summon a puppet with his R. An example would be that your R gives you 4 forms that you could transform into, if they take dmg, you take dmg , if they die then you die. By pressing R Q you could become a puppet adc, by pressing R W you could become a mage, etc.
EFC Godyr (EUW)
: is 1 tank support enough in a good team comp?
Honestly, in bronze, silver and gold, it is unlikely that your opponent will fully itemise to counter a team without a tank. It's more about what you're comfortable playing, certainly having one tank champ for engages, is quite nice, but it's more important that you're playing something that you're capable of playing.
Nerf Wolves (EUNE)
: New Aurelion Sol Skin Let's MAKE IT A THING!!!!!
Yasuo barely received any skins. Ezreal had loads, Jhin and Azir had loads, but Yasuo and lee only had 1 this year. I agree Au So should have a new skin, but at least get your facts right.
: he doesn't need a nerf, he needs a rework, he is actually boring to play as. if you want to play him and win you need phantom dancer and infinity edge, you have no freedom of build. even kha'zix can be built as a tank with black cleaver or as an assassin with all 3 lethality items, yasuo only has one viable build -_-
> [{quoted}](name=MirirPaladin,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=04XAK3aF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-12-31T11:20:28.166+0000) > > he doesn't need a nerf, he needs a rework, he is actually boring to play as. if you want to play him and win you need phantom dancer and infinity edge, you have no freedom of build. even kha'zix can be built as a tank with black cleaver or as an assassin with all 3 lethality items, yasuo only has one viable build -_- I disagree with this, build diversity is only one part of what makes a champ fun to play. Sure champs like Karma that can build pretty much whatever, and actually have decent synergy with the kit (tank,support,full ap, even attack speed with cdr) are fun in their own right, but Yasuo is fun due to the difficult mechanics that he has (e dashes through walls, e dashes through people to dodge stuff, perfect windwall timing, q flashes, e q flashes, e q flash e qs,etc). Yasuo is far from boring, and is most certainly not overpowered, he is in a good spot right now.
: The system wasn't built for people to dodge - especially not 3 seconds away from a match happening. If you just want to play in your comfort zone, play against bots really and set it up the way you want it. If you actually want to learn how to play certain matchups though - play with whatever your team throws at the enemy team. And even those who troll in champ select will surprise you
> [{quoted}](name=Tenchuu Khan,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1xge3Jcq,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-31T08:55:51.554+0000) > > The system wasn't built for people to dodge - especially not 3 seconds away from a match happening. > If you just want to play in your comfort zone, play against bots really and set it up the way you want it. If you actually want to learn how to play certain matchups though - play with whatever your team throws at the enemy team. > > And even those who troll in champ select will surprise you Tell that to Challenger and high diamond/master's players. Learning the game is not purely about playing the game in bad circumstances, it's about learning from the games you do play. Dodging 3 seconds before the game starts, is certainly not a good idea, but I refuse to agree with the concept that dodging is in any way shape or form a nooby thing to do (what you seem to be implying). High elo players are notorious for dodging bad looking games, and that is part of the game, weighing up how good a game looks.
: Depends on what you are trying to achieve. If your goal is to trick the system by dodging games you deem infavourable instead of testing your skills in an unlikely matchup, I guess it makes sense to dodge games whenever the system won't punish you. And even if that were the case, why wait so long to dodge? You know the matchup way earlier. It's not like in the last 5 seconds someone said something and you had to dodge at 3 seconds left of it.
> [{quoted}](name=Tenchuu Khan,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1xge3Jcq,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-31T07:20:12.618+0000) > > Depends on what you are trying to achieve. > > If your goal is to trick the system by dodging games you deem infavourable instead of testing your skills in an unlikely matchup, I guess it makes sense to dodge games whenever the system won't punish you. > And even if that were the case, why wait so long to dodge? You know the matchup way earlier. It's not like in the last 5 seconds someone said something and you had to dodge at 3 seconds left of it. It's not about tricking ths system, I'm sure Riot has no problem with people dodging once a day (hence the -3lp for your first dodge), just they don't want there to be no consequence, or people would dodge every game that they didn't like. There are just some games that you get a bad feeling about (autofilled players with troll picks, full ad comps vs malphite and 2 other tanks, bad synergy team vs amazing synetgy team, etc). Being able to determin what games look bad, and what games look good is also a skill.
80085 (EUW)
: > Also since you are plat II in solo duo, the game takes into account your highest rank in either Q I though or rather was hoping the two Q types are completely separated from each other. So I can learn new champions at gold flex rank and afterwards continue with them in solo Q.
> [{quoted}](name=80085,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=TpoV7Z4A,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-12-31T07:03:33.544+0000) > > I though or rather was hoping the two Q types are completely separated from each other. So I can learn new champions at gold flex rank and afterwards continue with them in solo Q. Nope, your higher rank plays a part in how much lp you gain, and the people you're against
: Which begs the question: why dodge so late into champ select anyway? Did you want to extra-troll the other 9 players because you didn't like something and wanted to waste their time? PS: Don't dodge - like... ever. Especially when you think it's a great idea to dodge: don't. It's stupid.
I'm sorry, but it's really shitty advice to tell someone not to dodge ever. Your mmr is way more important than you elo (chance of skipping a division, higher LP gains, lower LP losses, etc) and your first dodge of the day is only a 3 LP loss. 3LP and a 5 minute wait, is way better than 20-40 minutes lost on a game that you feel is unlikely to be won.
80085 (EUW)
: gold matched with diamond, how?
I mean on my other account, I had a 75% winrate (gold 1 in flex plat IV in soloduo), and I was playing with high diamond solo duo players and even faced 2 masters players in lane (surprisingly, I won both times). I'm pretty sure that if you're on a big winstreak and or are performing waaaaay above the average player at that level, it is quite common for such things to happen. Also since you are plat II in solo duo, the game takes into account your highest rank in either Q, so I don't really see all that much of an abnormality in your being placed with diamonds.
: Am I in ELO HELL?
Not saying this to bash you, but your picks are rather questionable. Trundle and Swain are both pretty bad champions at the moment (though trundle isn't bad vs tanks), your runes, and in particular your keystone choices are a bit weird. I don't think you're in elo hell, I think you are a decent player (your past few games have been pretty good for the most part) but you don't seem to hard carry often, but if you lose, you lose hard. I know I myself am not ultra high elo, but I can tell you that gold players make enough obvious mistakes for me to be able to abuse them. Gold is not elo hell, it's still what most people would define as low elo, so if you get stuck there, that is not the fault of your teammates, but rather your mentality or inconsistency or other factors. I've had 2 bad games in ranked solo duo(where I actually try to win). 1 of them was because I gave up after seeing a legitametly boosted player feed and then blame me (I'm talking a last season "diamond V" player who magically demoted to plat IV, and flashes on my 100% hp malzahar lvl 1, almost under tower), and the other was me not getting a lead, and dealing with ultra fed players, both of them are partially my fault, but on average I am a very consistent player who rarely tilts (minus those two occasions) and has a good mentality. My mechanics aren't super duper crazy, I just focus on making less mistakes and looking out for my enemy's mistakes, so I can abuse them. If you cs as well as possible, don't put down lazy wards (in the bush instead of halfway down the river) and keep an eye on your minimap, you'll be able to easily carry due to a large gold lead. As a toplaner you can play in many different ways : you can aim to farm as well as possible while denying as much farm from your laner as possible, and only do that. You can keep your eyes open for good roams into the enemy jungle, midlane and tp ganks botlane, you can splitpush like a madman and draw loads of attention to you while you destroy their towers like a maniac, or you can go for the most risky playstyle, which is to attempt to get fed off kills. Good luck to you in ranked, I hope this helps !
bugginben (EUW)
: Silver 4 always playing with gold 5/4
If you consistently are being placed with gold IVs and Vs, and you do well at this level (above 50% winrate), then it is probable that you are of that level. If you're playing vs them and you're not doing well, I'd say you're not gold IV or V level. You can of course try your hardest to climb to that level, and see how well you do in the process. I myself have a weird situation. I played quite a few games early on in the season, reached gold 1 and then stopped for a long time. Everytime I play ranked, I move up divisions really fast, (in plat III with ease) and I even have platinum I mmr, meaning I am placed against Plat IIs Is and Diamond Vs mostly. I pretty consistently do really really well (stomp lane, die very few times, good focus on objectives, great overall dmg to champions), which puts me in a weird position. I don't know what my potential elo is, because I haven't done ranked that much. Not sure exactly what elo I would be. Here's my profile, you can judge for yourself how well I do : http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=ShadowCircles
Sympton (EUW)
: I agree... many many times my teams are NOT carryable. 1 or 2 games ago i had a team of 0/8 1/8 0/6 and 6/8 while i was 7/2.. and thats at platinum 3. couldnt do more, and no these games aint rare, you get this on a daily basis.
Some games are difficult to carry, but there's always a way for you to do better. 1v9 doesn't mean you have to have an amazing score, it means your impact on the outcome of the game was the highest. Maybe you went for kills instead of helping your other lanes, maybe you took a tower instead of roaming top or invading the jungle. Maybe you didn't ward the river well enough, and their jungler had free ganks because of it. Maybe your cs was too low, or you didn't do anything with your lead. There are always ways to improve, a seemingly good play may have been a contributing factor to the loss. We're both plat III, so who knows, but being able to hard carry people no matter what (assuming they are trying in the slighest and not disco nunu or tahm kench throwing you into tower).
däb (EUW)
: Koreans play meta, they dont really main a lot. >.>
They don't really main, but they consistently play certain champs, no matter the meta. Aurelion Solo, Twisted Fate and Taliyah are very often in the top 5-10 champs of Challengee Korean mid mains
: Probably the most timeless champs are : Zed,Taliyah,Aurelion Sol,Orianna and Twisted Fate. All of these are solid picks that Koreans love to use, it's really up to you to decide which one is the best for you. Taliyah, Aurelion Sol and Twisted Fate rely a lot on you roaming as much as possible (huge part of their kits). Zed is very high skill cap and his job is to shutdown the enemy mid and as many other champs as possible, lategame you just kill the most dangerous carry and do as much dmg as possible. Orianna is solid overall, she farms well, can wombo combo, provides a shield, slow, hard cc, and an amazing zoning, her ult is game changing lategame.
Just gonna add that these are not all just my picks, I am stating what the best players consistently use due to being strong no matter what.
Frenzy W (EUW)
: Best Midlaner to main ? :D
Probably the most timeless champs are : Zed,Taliyah,Aurelion Sol,Orianna and Twisted Fate. All of these are solid picks that Koreans love to use, it's really up to you to decide which one is the best for you. Taliyah, Aurelion Sol and Twisted Fate rely a lot on you roaming as much as possible (huge part of their kits). Zed is very high skill cap and his job is to shutdown the enemy mid and as many other champs as possible, lategame you just kill the most dangerous carry and do as much dmg as possible. Orianna is solid overall, she farms well, can wombo combo, provides a shield, slow, hard cc, and an amazing zoning, her ult is game changing lategame.
: What other mid laners have you in mind? off the top of my head there are no meta mids that hard counter Taliyah outside of Kassadin (just ban him) and Katarina (hope your team mates ban her)
Zed is a counter to Taliyah,he's pretty viable atm.
Bombardox (EUW)
: The reason why katarina is '' op ''
There's a big problem with Katarina at the moment though. I agree that players don't respond very well to danger pings, and missing pings, but the fact is that Katarina is just way too strong this presseason. Katarina is a skilled champion, but for a skilled champion to have a 54% winrate with a high playrate is a bit ridiculous.Her burst is way too high lvl 3, you can often all in your opponent from around 80% hp if you have ignite. A skilled champion (zed,kat,yasuo,leblanc,etc) should have at most a 50% winrate, if they have a high playrate. So on the whole I agree with your post, but I also have to say that Katarina is legitimately OP atm.
Ł4Ń (EUW)
: Yasuo ?
Yasuo is extremely easy to play against. Yasuo was way too weak before the buffs, he's now just about okay, but not a braindead faceroll champ (unless people don't respect him, like any other champ). He has a strong lategame, but he's also really squishy, and any cc completely %%%%s him. Instead of complaining about the champ, learn to play against him and explot mistakes, it'll help you improve as a player and will allow you to not feel like you have to ban him every game. I don't mind explaining the best ways to deal with Yasuo, because I have faced a lot of Yasuos, and have played a lot of him myself.
: So I want to be a three-trick pony, help me to get out of gold! please?
I can suggest to you a few picks. Top of my list would be Ornn, he's tanky, has an amazing laning phase, can cc and do a lot of dmg, can buy items from lane ! I would also suggest trying Karma top, she's a very versatile pick (can build Ap, Tank,Support or a mix of any of them) she's got a very strong and safe laning phase, good utility lategame (5 man shield, huge AOE dmg and cc).Camille is the last champ I'd suggest, she's amazing at 1v1s, can splitpush, is never really out of the meta and is just an amazing champ to play a lot. Between those three, I'm pretty sure that you can play against any champ
Agnostos92 (EUNE)
: I agree with you ARZIN! Sometimes i can't even find the {{item:2003}} in the recommended set. I think {{item:2003}} , {{item:2043}} , {{item:3361}} , {{item:3363}} , {{item:3341}} , {{item:3364}} , {{item:2047}} , {{item:3673}}, and one of {{item:2138}} , {{item:2139}} , {{item:2140}} (depending on your champ core) should always be visible in the 'recommended' set no matter your champion pick, lane and role. Upvote the discussion so more people can see it and let's hope RIOT team sees it.
You forgot the Corrupting Potion.
Arzin (EUW)
: starting items idea
Honestly, I think Riot needs to add a special pink ward slot. I often have a full inventory and it just isn't worth buying a pink ward over a long sword, especially early game. But yeah, I also agree that the "essential items" should include pink wards and upgraded trinket/oracle's.

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