: Welp, just thought this is the classical "taste of your own medicine". You're a little trigger happy on the "SJW" calls too. Maybe not everyone who disagrees with us is a SJW, or if you wanna look at the other end of the spectrum, a Nazi.
my own medicine you say? no idea what you are talking about. I don't really know why i would call someone a Nazi, i never saw a post which promotes white racial supremacy theories. But then why would i look at the other end of the spectrum if people try to shut down others by shaming them, simply because they don't want people out there to exist who have a different opinion than themselthes. But you post very questionable things even though you are a Senior Emissary, don't get me wrong but shouldn't you be more of a role model for the forum and rather try to promote free speech in a constructive way than to throw around your little taunts at random community members? {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Shlashpro (EUW)
: You can label everything, but it is a difference if you can prove it or not. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
And do i read a little bit of malice, coming from a Senior Emissary? Ôo
: It's easy to be labeled "SJW" here, innit?
You can label everything, but it is a difference if you can prove it or not. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: > Plus gfs love a guy with depth and principles, unlike a sad sjw whos prolly a virgin. 😂 he burnt you hard! :D
How did i got burned? 0o first of all i said nothing which would even make someone consider that i am a SJW, obviously oyu never read a forum post of mine :p 2nd dude you quit the game and you still keep ghosting around in the forum of the game? Why don't you just listen to your gf and get off her? xD League has moved on it doesn't care about you anymore :p {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Febos (EUW)
: It doesn't look like it's a problem with game. You know what all those 8 games have in common? https://orig00.deviantart.net/485d/f/2012/134/1/0/league_of_legends___uncle_ryze_skin__render_by_haxb0x-d4zq60i.png
Downinhell (EUNE)
: ***
wow, you are like a guy who is saying all day that he is over his ex girlfriend xD
: i do think the biggest issue about the toxic is the increase of toddlers. but right now in low elo bronze->high plat the player groups r just in abad state. from what i seen i could say this is about it: 50% new players, who basicly have no clue what they r doing. 35% smurfs, who don't care about winning or being toxic cause "not my main account" 15% players who belong in that elo. the first 2 groups cover the most ppl but also those r the ones u don't want in your team. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: As we mentioned, you certainly don't have to support everything Riot or certain community members do. But we don't think some of the negative nancy's who constantly complain about all the terrible things in League are the best fit for our program ^^ Feel free to apply though, always interested to hear some ideas.
I prefer to call it critizise, since i play this game since season 4 and dare to make evaluations on the current state of affairs, of course only if i am allowed to Mr. Sheep-o {{sticker:katarina-love}}
: You can always apply! :) Maybe we can rekindle your love for the game as well along the way~
: Become a League of Legends Volunteer! - (Applications open)
It's not very easy to be passionate about the game anymore, having to face a imense amount of toxicity 2/3 games. Can i still apply, i got some ideas which the League of Legends "COMMUNITY" would simply love. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} PS. Whatsup sheepo?
Rioter Comments
Shlashpro (EUW)
: Ou boy, i forgot to use a gender neutral term. does it already count as slander in your country? Because i got the expression that you are a woman, hence your name. Please allow me to correct myselth and say "Xer" or would you prefer "Zer"? {{sticker:fiora-cool}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU&
i had no intension in issuing any attacks against anyone, i just felt like i insulted you and tried to give you an environment which seemed to make you more comfortable with your arguments. {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
: What kind of animal are you?
Well calling someone a animal or boosted animal didn't used to be meant as an insult, but there are people who love to not understand the background of things. {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
: >I got a punishment of not earning xp or something like that. i really hope this is not permanent as i didnt go afk on purpose. Relax buddy, it means you didn't get XP for THAT game, since you triggered a remake. Shit happens, our internets crap out sometimes, it's no biggie. That's riot's way of expressing their discouragement towards AFKing, worst case scenario, if you AFK A LOT (!) and I mean really A LOT, you get into low priority queue (AKA LEAVE BUSTER), and need to wait 20mins before you can begin your match (a total of 5 games in a row), after that, you're good to go. In your current case, this didn't trigger, so you're carefree and able to play/progress just like before. hope I helped, Cheers ! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
But treat with care, riot's banbots are already after you! {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Shlashpro (EUW)
: Ou boy, i forgot to use a gender neutral term. does it already count as slander in your country? Because i got the expression that you are a woman, hence your name. Please allow me to correct myselth and say "Xer" or would you prefer "Zer"? {{sticker:fiora-cool}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU&
By the way, was that already shock therapy? {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Ou boy, i forgot to use a gender neutral term. does it already count as slander in your country? Because i got the expression that you are a woman, hence your name. Please allow me to correct myselth and say "Xer" or would you prefer "Zer"? {{sticker:fiora-cool}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU&
: >You saying what you said as a reply, was an obvious attempt at throwing all that I say out, because of an imaginary thing that your mind has brough you to. And now you are trying to justify that. Please don't. your mental gymnastics are quite impressive but then again you still seem to think that you were banned unjustly so i shouldn't be surprised about how your mind interprets facts
Well that was the most SJW thing i have heard in this forumpost yet. "mental gymnastics" because he is prooving your arguements wrong?
: >You seem keen on disagreeing with me problem? just because you think you are right, it doesn't mean you are or that everyone else is supposed to think like you > I did not call Shiwah a SJW. i never said you did. i said >you calling people **PEOPLE** as in "in general"
It's one thing if you disagree with someone, but it's a other to have no valid points. Don't really see why you startet this discussion.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
@Rope on my neck, it's tough to argue with her, she is nitpicking parts of your arguements to falsefy the actual substance behind your arguements. She is championing the SJW mentality even if she doesn't agree with them, which we don't know, she is not listening to you, she just tries to further her agenda. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: First amendment? What? Whatever. Europe. Not America. Invoking shitty comics about the legal meaning of it. In the thread in which I invoked freedom of speech, I didn't refer to the legal term, which is in fact almost stepped on by SJWs. I reffered to the fact that anyone should be able to say whatever they want, as long as they don't threaten or directly interfere or ruin one's reputation therefore creating actual problems in their life. This is merely an opinion, and it is how the world is currently in this side. Most people do insult other people from time to time, but they don't ruin other people. I also believe I stated it was an opinion, and if I did not, in any way stated such a thing, I do apologize. A community , has to have rules, but those rules should have some known boundaries.
this name, these arguements, please play in euw xD
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Well yea beeing a useless human beeing without any drive nor use for the society sure ain't going to drive you into a depression one day. And wtf shock therapy? In these szenarios i have given you it's called "growing the hell up" {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Don't think that anybody has contradicted that fact, but thanks for reminding everyone.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Well here is the issue, facts versus feelings. Does it feel good to hear that you are a lazy slug, because you do nothing but sleep till noon and not bother to work? Does it feel good to call out a person because he or she is highly overweight? No and no, but do you seriously believe that you are helping any of these persons if you just let them stay in their bubbles? Beeing a lazy slug drives ou directly into depression and beeing overweight opens up the space for huge health issues. Obviously if you think of the society as a construct which is set by society you might think that, but the society is changing and people are getting more and more fed up with this whole snowflake attitude, that it is about the feelings of every single individual. Thats a far left mindset which is very dangerous and also really easily shattered by the easiest of comparisons. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: >If you set the value of a argument by it's punctuation, then you really shouldn't be taking part in discussions, since a discussion is not about your grammar, but about the essence of your arguement. if you ignore punctuation , your argument will be less easy to interpret sometimes since the point of commas and dots is to separate the chain of thought into easy to understand sentences. example: *“Most of the time, travellers worry about their luggage.”* Now delete the comma after the fourth word to totally change the meaning of this sentence: *“Most of the time travellers worry about their luggage”* it's not about grammar nazism. it's about wether you care about being understood by others or not
You are completely right about the interpretation part of a arguement due to its lack of punctuation indeed. However it was rather a missed attempt to not judge his statement by his punctuation since he had a valid arguement and undermining it simply because of his punctuation seemed like a cheap trick.
: who is to decide what hatefull and harmfull speech is? well it's rito
You can't really blame it on riot, riot is a company whose goal it is to make loads of money, which is fine, after all its a company so what else should they do? The issue is that riot gets pressure from a lot of people like SJW's who try to doctrinate as many people as they can and also players who are unsatisfied with the current way the system works. To give you an example, back i nthe day "videogamedunkey" used to make loads of league of legends videos and he actually got me into the game. One day he got banned because he was shittalking with his friends in the chat which was a 4 man premade game btw. The other guy didnt knew that they were joking and reported him so he got banned for 3 days. He then went to riot and explained what really happened and that it was just joking between friends, he had the footage to proove it. All he wanted is to get unbanned for atleast a few hours to finish a video he is doing and afterwards they can ban him for the period of time. What did riot do, after he asked this one little favour for years of making free adverticement for the game? They game them a huge middle finger and said no. Well of course this is very contraversial, riot never asked him to do free adverticement and why would riot life the ban since they are so strict on it? Afterall it is a fair point, but would you as a human beeing really say no to this one thing he asks from you? He didnt asked for getting his banned lifted, but to get access from his account for a certain amount of time just to finish a other video which promotes your game even further instead you just give him the good old money grabbing corporate smack in the face. And don't get me wrong it is fine if riot does it, it is their company after all. But it just gets to shit how they are operating and how far away they are disconnected from the community, you see it with the whole custom skins issue and league comedy youtubers. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
beeing offended and getting offended are two different things, people may call me nazi because i am german, but do i get offended? I never shot a jew or gased anyone, i never took part in a war or try to spread believes about the white superiority. So what do i have in common with nazis? The nationality? I highly doubt it. I have no fllacious reasoning, my reasoning is a opinion from several black figures who speak out against the same thing i do right now. Should a black man who says "elevate yourselths from this word, it has nothing to do with us, it is a relic of the past" be shunned? Obviously if you never thought about this topic seriously it is really easy to just point the finger and call the people racists and to dehumanize them to further your own agenda, not even realizing what you do helps no one. Has the black lives matter human helped any black guy in america? Policeman are scared to go into problematic black neighborhoods and leave the people alone, because they fear to be labelled racists for taking down criminals who are black. Black on Black crimes are the biggest issue in america when it comes down to homicides. I don't blame you for never taking the bigger picture into consideration, but all you do is beeing part of the problem and not of the solution. P.S. i am a policeman myselth {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: > exposed for what it is, a word filter by a youtuber Oh noes, a Youtuber. What was the video titled? >**Riot EXPOSED!!! Unfair ban by BAD SYSTEM #Leagueisdying #noclickbait** What does a YouTuber know? People treat them like they know everything, when half the time they're just making stuff up themselves. I'm curious though, wouldyou mind linking that video? ---- ** The system is not a word filter.** I might not be a YouTuber saying this, but I worked on a collection of sources and studied the Player Behavior system of League of Legends. Take a peek: http://en.volu-eu.org/library.php
I would love to post the video in this forum, however riot banned all people involved with this and who abused the system. Afterwards they told youtube to remove the video from the page. To tell you what happened. 1. The youtuber baited people into insulting him, with misplaying and telling them if they dont insult him he will be afk in a ranked game. 2. The people who tried to not lose the game insulted him since he took the game hostage. 3. After the game he got tons of notifications that his reported helped and these players got punished. Conculsion, he took the game hostage, trolled several ranked games to bait other people to insult him AND he didnt received any punishment, but all the other people did. He ONLY got punished AFTER the video went viral.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Would you be so kind and take my whole arguement into consideration and not to manipulate my message, by taking it apart in a introduction to help people understand the points i will make about the topic? The point is not that i say that black people are inferior to the speaker, just because the speaker says n*gger, i tell you that it is on the black community to elevate themselthes from this word, since it has nothing to do with them. This means that there is no reason to feel offended by this word, since it doesn't refer to any black person in the western hemisphere, SINCE they aren't able to be slaves.
: ***
Look the problem is riot has a strong arguement, and it's that it's their company so they call the shots. However i feel like it is only fair for both parties, the company and the players, to know the boundaries. Beeing vague about "you can't use toxic terms" is by far not enough, who decided when a term is toxic? Give us a list of all the things we can't type that way no one can complain, when they get punished. Also when you know where the boundaries are, you won't get mad and try to get back about somebody else, since you know exactly that the person who just insulted you used a blacklisted word and will get punished anyway. Enough for me to mute him with a smug face {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shlashpro,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gfmsOo0x,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-17T07:40:20.270+0000) > > A lot of big streamers quit League already Are we talking about NightBlue3? Oh that's right, he quitted the game for a solid week. Maybe next time he can go for two weeks instead.
You might be right about this, but please don't forget that he wants to quit league desperately, but he is forced to play it, because otherwise he can't secure his financial situation. It is not important of he is playing league or not, all that counts is that he desperately tries to quit the game for what it is. Not a fun experience.
: You're digressing. Of course road rage exists, that just reinforces my point: People don't like disrespectful jerks. >and alos again how many use fg in a condesecnding way towards gay People and the word %%%%%% is used by black as a %%%%ing greeting only because you are White or not gay you are not allowed to say it and not ty to be racist or homophobic as gays and black peopel???? when while you start making sense??????????? What are you even saying here? This is where punctuation goes to die ...
If you set the value of a argument by it's punctuation, then you really shouldn't be taking part in discussions, since a discussion is not about your grammar, but about the essence of your arguement. IT'S BASICALLY LIKE WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS TO STRENGHTEN YOUR POINT, only useful if you are unable to listen to views from other people and all you want to achieve is to further your agenda. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: yeah i totally directed the slurr to People that i knew of were gay to Insult and belittle them i didnt use it as an Insult to respond to their shittalking+ as i already stated but my Response apparently disappear, my Gold mates (i was playing normal with a friend who hadnt palyed for a solid 11 months) which were flaming me for being so bad while i am judging by elo the way better and way more expericenced Player, but what do i expect from rito to use reason xD not till the Company shuts down gotta love it
honestly man, if you dont like it just tell all the people you know who might want to play league what is happening around here, this is the only way yo ucan have a impact on league as a single human beeing. Make riot work for the satisfaction of the playerbase and not the other way. Games are for the targeted community, the players and not the company's make it clear.
: Common sense differs from country to country. What you might consider offensive in America or in Spain, might not be considered so in Russia. You should at least release a list of the words that your system instantly detects. I know that some people might start to avoid them, but this would also avoid some of the "mistake" bans.
exactly, hitting your wive is basically forbidden and is looked down on in both europe and america, but its the most normal thing in arabic countries, just like stoning woman to death for reasons like adultry? or for refusing to wear a hijab. This "common sense" thing you refer to, is a westernized version of a "common sense" you maybe want to make this one clear
: > with which i am not offensive towards gay People Well, try calling black people "n%ggers" and see how well that goes for you. Yeah, maybe you're not actually homophobic, but you're using terms that have a clear bad connotation, that's not acceptable. As I mentioned above: There's no "list" of what you can and can't say. If you're a somewhat normal functioning human, common sense is generally enough to tell when you're being a jerk to others. Responding to shittalk isn't generally a good idea, just because others break the rules doesn't mean you can do the same.
first of all n*ggers is a term to refer to black slaves centuries ago, i dont see any black slaves around here, do you? What if it is not on us to cencor language, but it's about the black community to finally manage to elevate themselthes from this term? Because your whole argument feels like a step back in both freedom of speech and progress. I am convinced that if you censor people for saying n*gger because they refer to black people, this only makes you just as racist, since you are basically saying *WITH YOUR ACTION* that all blacks are slaves and they shouldnt be refered to as n*ggers since they shouldn't feel bad. Even though no black guy in the western hemisphere is a n*gger, we don't have slavery here. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: You don't always get a notification when a player gets banned, keep that in mind. If you correctly reported them for hate speech, the system is very accurate, it's unlikely that they slipped through. --- > Could we get like a list of things we are not allowed to write in the game? No, because that's not how language works. You can be toxic without using a single bad word, and there are endless ways to be a jerk to someone. If you tell someone "_end your worthless existence_" you're not using a single "bad word", does it mean that's cool to say? --- >Since buddy is not genderneutral and might offend woman, since they are not included in a male criteria? Am i allowed to say i like asian woman? Or am i part of a patriachy which is oppressing woman, since i am a white male? You're just taking the piss here. This has nothing to do with the nonsense you're talking about. People love to dismiss others as SJWs when they point our their misbehavior. Nobody gets "offended" about toxicity here, it's just that nobody wants to deal with toxic people. Image someone cuts you off while driving. You don't get "offended", do you? But you still want that jerk to get off the road, it's simple as that. ---- Since you reported the player calling you a f%ggot, you seem to agree that this behavior isn't acceptable. Just like the word "n%gger", it is a slur that clearly has a negative connotation. People don't tolerate homophobia, racism, sexism etc. That doesn't mean they're SJWs.
I highly doubt that riots system is able to distinguish the context of what anyone writes, i can asure you for 100% that the system isnt just working for words, but also for phrases and sequences of words. Just lately the ban system was exposed for what it is, a word filter by a youtuber, afterwards everyone who abused a abusable system got punished with permabanned accounts.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shlashpro,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gfmsOo0x,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-04-17T07:56:47.107+0000) > > Could we get like a list of things we are not allowed to write in the game? Don't say something you wouldn't say to your elders. Essentially, use **common sense**.
i got no idea what your elders say, but the elders in my country say the N word all day for black people, so is it okay to write it now? When i tell them thats racist they just ask me why is not racist? If i tell them %%%%%%ed is a bad word now, they say it is a medical term. This generation got teabagged man and they enjoyed it.
: no it states Gold "short term for an apparently offensive word for gays which i didnt use that way (there is a funny south park Episode to the subject that ysou do not use it to belittle gay People, am i even allowed to say gay or will i trigger rito?) i meant it as an Insult directed to the People who where calling me trash and shittalking me
: Well yeah, this is pretty toxic ... You were berating a player because of their rank and being extremely condescending. On top of that, you used a homophobic slur which generally gets you an instant 14-day ban. There's a zero tolerance policy in place against behavior like yours. This has been the case for at least 3 years, so your case is nothing unusual.
I was called a %%%got jungler several times yesterday, i didn't even responded, but i reported it afterwards and i got no notification that someone got punished. Could we get like a list of things we are not allowed to write in the game? Like whats up BUDDY? Since buddy is not genderneutral and might offend woman, since they are not included in a male criteria? Am i allowed to say i like asian woman? Or am i part of a patriachy which is oppressing woman, since i am a white male?{{sticker:garen-swing}}
: Benn really toxic this time boys (tell me where this is toxic wtf is going on with league these days
It is weird that riots ban system went full snowflake mode, especially since riots playerbase is leaving slowly but surely. A lot of big streamers quit League already, also most of the people who used to do league comedy videos on youtube. I mean has anyone notices that league suddenly is advertising the game everywhere? I think they look desperately for new players now and this makes sense, low elo feels way worse skill and knowledge wise than it's used to be i mean just compare gold elo season 8 and gold elo season 5.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: then u got banned and opened this thread?
LOL {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Esmeralde (EUW)
: What's the deal with people flaming jungler and support on EU west?
welcome in league of legends lol, i have 5 accounts, 3 of them i only play jungle and on the other 2 only support. All my jungle accounts got honor lvl 1 and my support accounts have honor lvl 4 and honor lvl 5 lol. People are just bad and blame the jungler because of their own inability to play the game, they think that league is a 1v1 for the first 20 minutes of the game and junglers don't exist unless its your own jungler. Afterall its called jungler not ganker, but who likes to accept that they suck? Of course people are going to blame the next person in the team.{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
Rioter Comments
HdtvSK (EUW)
: So it LCS, but you wouldn't know it
League is going down for years, why do you think does riot refuse to publisize their official playerbase? The community is still toxic, and there are no restrictions for people who never played champs before. Unless you play master +300 LP your competative experience is shit, the games feel like a clown fest, who cares if your toplaner is 9/0? The enemie Botlane is 6/0 so you will lose anyway ... League made so many decisions which simply ruined the experience for so many, i hardly believe league ever fully recovered from the severety of season 6's dynamic queue. I mean i dont know how it was for you, but since dynamic queue most of my friends which i used to play with quit the game and i came back after a pause of 1 1/2 years. Even the LCS just doesn't feel the same it used to anymore. Europe and America are catching up to the korean infrastrukture when it comes down to games in the public eye, but its still a long road and i doubt that League will be relevant at all when the time comes, simply because the games just all feel the same. same champions, same item builds, same outcome. How many times did i hear the casters say "ou the game was lost in the champ select" It's just depressing to keep playing this game and wish that it would one day be atleast similar form the feeling it used to be, a fun experience. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
: I'm a girl :P
Doesn't make it better {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: What do you think of my league artworks? :D
guess you should get back on your medication dude. {{sticker:galio-happy}}
nice earrape {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
sirDarts (EUW)
: 1. Yeah... No... Riot really doesn't permaban people to get money from them. Most permabanned people won't spend money on their new accounts. And Riot is losing money because toxic players "scare away" new players who are more likely to spend money. 2. STOP BRINGING UP TYLER WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW JACK! Tyler1 was NOT just permabanned! He was ID banned! He was not allowed to make new accounts, any account he made would be permabanned ON SIGHT without having to break any rules! This ID ban was lifted. All his accounts that got permabanned in the past are STILL PERMABANNED!
reddit says he was *airhorns*
: Thanks for 6 years rito
to be fair you played this game for 6 years, so ofc you got to be banned some day. Rito needs money man, be a pal and buy all champs again on a new account. If Tyler1 teached us something, then that permabans are permanent. Unless they are not, then we just call it not perma banned and unban him. Getting your acc unbanned is only for people with a huge range in the community, so don't bother. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: Impossible to rank up / smurfs etc rant..
i play vayne too and i feel offended by your post
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
i am jewish and i feel offended
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