: Define 'invalid report' that a computer reads, not a human.
what's your point? the ratio between punishment worthy issues and false positives is stacked in favour of the current system, based on what i keep seeing on these boards. Untill such a time when that ratio changes dramaticaly(like it was happening back in the days of the human only operated tribunal based system), wether a computer or a human is behind the wheel is irrelevant.
Câstiél (EUW)
: > don't have any account acces to support assistance So you're telling me you can't log in at https://support.riotgames.com/ ? EDIT: Fixed the link.
i think he means they blocked him off. which wouldn't surprise me tbh
: What do you guys do when a teammate ban ur champ?
i take the second choice im in the mood for and choose not to rely on them for the rest of the game. outright trolling them is not ok, no matter how tempting.
: I'm not stupid, I know that. Decline is still not the same thing as die.
well 2% is not a decline either if you've ever delved into the universe of stocks, currency and the like, you'd know that much
: Decline != Die. Try again!
"!=" means "not equal to", btw
: > [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9iPNxTmE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:21:48.556+0000) > There is clearly pretty severe toxicity there, and you should be aware that punishments like this can lead up to a permanent ban. I just got 10 games of chat restriction, so i'm fine i guess.. :/
if you don't want more punishments, i suggest you stop flaming. and by "stop" i don't mean "continue but don't exagerate again". by "stop" i mean "stop!"
: > [{quoted}](name=Sinful Succubus,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9iPNxTmE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:17:33.370+0000) > him playing poorly, other people flaming you and whatever other excuse you can come up with won't change the fact that **your** behaviour was not ok. someone else's behaviour not being ok makes no difference. Sorry that my mental health has been going down cuz of shits i'm getting on my team :) it was an explosion.
well your "explosion" lasted the entire chatlog
: > [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9iPNxTmE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:19:24.166+0000) > > You legit harassed your team the WHOLE game > How is that not a reason? Riot doesn't provide you with their logs sadly :P
it wouldn't make a difference all 10 people flaming just means all 10 people deserve punishment
: Punished for no reason!!! wtf riot!!!
harrassing your jungler and calling him names is not ok flaming the rest of your team is not ok either him playing poorly, other people flaming you and whatever other excuse you can come up with won't change the fact that **your** behaviour was not ok. someone else's behaviour not being ok makes no difference.
helburgham (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Morrhen,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=BNsqAAge,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-11T16:16:41.386+0000) > > Lemme waste some of my time and give you quick rundown of what got you banned. > > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: ok idiot > - Insult > > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: go afk pls > - Encouraging player to break the rules and abandon their team > > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: he started to flame like a tard > - insult. Even if it's part of it. > > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: what I said...ignore cuz he trash > - mild insult > > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: run > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: coward :D > - Negative attitude and unecessary taunting > > MY_INGAME_CHARNAME: report this toxic yorick pls > - Report calling isn't against the rules but is heavily discouraged > > So yeah. There it goes. This is nothing compared with Yorick's insults...but ok, I deserved it.
>This is nothing compared with Yorick's insults...but ok, I deserved it. it's not a contest. someone else flaming first or saying worse things are not valid excuses to flame too
: Well riot dont know I was saying it to my friend since they dont know our private relationship
next time use voice chat or whispers
: I had no idea thanks for telling me I will think before writing something next time its just that I love this game and being missplaced in que with a big skill diffrent hurts when you do your best but end up getting a team member with bad intentions or just are less skilled. I did not know it only took 1 report for a person to get banned. Its not easy since even if you do your best and lose because players are trolling in your team that ban on the troller wont matter since you cant get you lost LP back. However thanks for telling me
>I had no idea you'd be surprised how many people have no ideea why read the rules when you can just **assume** how it works and then get mad when reality slaps you across the face with an expired fish?
: 12 Day ban for having team members trolling
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player >THINGS TO AVOID >Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game. >Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players. >Negative behavior is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances or who started it. It can be tempting to respond to negative players with negativity of your own. Our systems do not care who started the behavior and will treat each reported player based off the merits of their own case. The only way to handle these types of players is to mute them and continue playing the game followed by giving them a report at the end of the match. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} > Just look how many honors ive got and think if I really deserved this. high honor is not a get out of jail free card. everyone is treated the same >Btw im 18 from Sweden. nobody cares
: Here ya go, lad: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/ka7IqcPM-leagues-decline-by-the-numbers
the post in your link has a few flaws: 1) the 2019 numbers are missing. it would be nice if op updated it 2) >Garena servers (including China) are not represented. the numbers for china are greater than the other ones combined http://m.quickmeme.com/img/81/81a797730f10ca7ca92d0ed151bdb690994ccfe2a7247b7afccd6dcc1ed4c446.jpg 3) >This only shows Ranked data from people who finished all 10 placements. I believe it only counts Solo Queue. If someone swapped to Flex only, or didn't finish their Placements before only playing Normals, then they'd still be playing but wouldn't show up on this data. there are a lot of people who play only arams or tft or normals for various reasons. i personally know quite a few 4) >This data is yearly. Someone who played in January and quit in February is still counted. We can't see month by month trend lines. 5) >Overall League Solo Queue population is 2% less than it was in 2016 2% is hardly a reason to say "league is dieing", especially considering the above issues with consistency try again!
Fanekinha (EUW)
: Smurfing
i've been seeing this "league is dieing" rethoric since around season 3 league is literally putting opera deaths to shame {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: Nothing. The Honor system is broken, and every report against you adds up until eventually you do something like have 1 trigger word and it instantly bans you. Not a single human looks. No smart AI. Just a tick-box of 'number of reports + 1 trigger = punishment'.
>and every **valid** report against you adds up until eventually you do something like have 1 trigger word and it instantly bans**/chat restricts** you.**(depending on what was said)** ftfy invalid reports are ignored
Jworst (EUW)
: Tell me what the hell is punishable in my recent chatlogs
>Jworst: told ya to dodge Jworst: well now you get -15 lp Jworst: hope its wortth Jworst: i mean Jworst: you could have dodged Jworst: for what Jworst: its not bannable to play any champ you want :d Jworst: and i want to play braum Jworst: he was laning mid as support Jworst: im laning mid as mid Jworst: yea Jworst: sona is not helpful Jworst: mid open looks like trolling to me...
: Ban Suggestions
>How about restricting chat for longer periods of time, rather than completely just locking people out of their accounts. if i took a shot of eggnog every time someone suggested the "why no chatban instead" tactic, i'd get sick by day 3
: > [{quoted}](name=Sinful Succubus,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=NoPggbVO,comment-id=000200010001,timestamp=2019-12-10T14:16:23.715+0000) > > money well spent but he wont spend money on skins dont worry kappa
my loot is full of epics. why would i buy anything? if anything i'd buy flat ammounts of orange essence. the anniversary ones didn't help as much as i hoped. {{sticker:garen-swing}}
Morrhen (EUW)
: I really like you. You're the ballziest mod I've seen here who cuts the crap and straight says whats needed to say. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
you could say he's the rujitra done right {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
Senna MVP (EUW)
: Oh no i only cried once when they banned my main so its cool i got over it
>so its cool i got over it i don't think you understand what "getting over it" implies {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Senna MVP (EUW)
: it takes seconds to get level 30 so its cool for me lets put it this way i flamed one game flame can be muted no but boosted noobs were stuck with so how does that work when they never get banned and they provoke a ban for people like me so i gave up caring and ill continue to keep get quick level 30s and once i get a chat ban go to the next simple.
>it takes seconds to get level 30 so its cool money well spent
Senna MVP (EUW)
: Banned again
>just thought id let you know riot and the cry baby players you won't stop us we are happy where we are while you are happy reporting someone when you suck at the game. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you are happy to make the climb to level 30 over and over because chat drama was more important to you than playing the game? good for you!
: > so in reality troll/grief is 3-6 times more toxic than someone who is toxic chat If a murderer gets away without being caught, does that mean burglars shouldn't be punished? Just because other people do things that might be worse, does **not** mean your punishment isn't justified. It does happen that inters and trolls get away unpunished. This is mostly due to the fact that it can be really difficult (especially for a machine) to tell an intentional feeder from a player having a bad game. (a 4/15 score could just be the latter.) Does this suck and could Riot do better? Yes and yes. --- However, from the sheer amount of times you bring your own punishment up, I get the feeling that this isn't really about what other people are doing. You seem very upset about a punishment you've probably gotten. If you wish, we can talk about it. But before, I cannot stress this point enough. Just because other people break the rules, doesn't mean you don't deserve your punshment. _"He started it" or "they did it too" are not valid arguments. We're not in kindergarten..._ --- If you have any questions regarding your punishement, feel free to ask and/or share your chatlogs to discuss them with us.
>You seem very upset about a punishment you've probably gotten. If you wish, we can talk about it. you're late to the party he made a post. talk was had. he didn't like it when people didn't say what he wanted to hear. que this obsession with posting drama every other day when his gauge fills up again. i just wish he posted in https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/rant instead... edit: see what i mean?
: I appreciate your response, but i still think this game is cheering you up to be sunbmissive. I mean, of course games are not real life but at least you can do something to defend yourself, like saying stfu to a dude that's being more than annoying; but if you do that they chat restrict your account, so basically you can't defend yourself.
if you are responding to a flamer by flaming back, you are not "defending yourself" the only valid self defense strat against someone **talking** is the mute button. that's it. talking back means that instead of one jerk talking shit instead of playing the damn game, there are now two. it's not hard to understand. at all. it has nothing to do with being submissive and everything to do with understanding when someone is not worth the time it takes to type a response instead of doing something more productive/proactive
: So if someone on the street is constantly insulting you, you just shut up and look to other way, thinking im morally superior XD, yeah this game doen't represent reality.
>So if someone on the street is constantly insulting you, you just shut up and look to other way, thinking im morally superior XD, you know what the difference between being on the street and being in a game is? in the game you can ignore the chat (either willingly like i do or by muting) and focus on the game. >yeah this game doen't represent reality. if it doesn't represent reality then why are you using scenarios from reality as arguments? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: And now the ultimate proof. Replying pointing out you can't say "it's healing because it heals" or "it works because it works" isn't an answer, so it gets DELETED? Ha, I knew I was right. And they're terrified of everyone knowing. Removing the veil from peoples eyes one post at a time. My job is done, gl opening your eyes, you'll see one day.
>Ha, I knew I was right. And they're terrified of everyone knowing. Removing the veil from peoples eyes one post at a time. https://imgur.com/UgLYo9e {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: there is no communication of any sort from this galio for taking cs and pushing lane either. I fail to see in what world this kind of behavior, without prior communication, is making it more probable for your team to win. so why do you say this is not disrupting, because the laner should take cs and the support is there to support. As you said if it is alright for any support to take cs from your adc and he was trying hard to get a lot of cs, made me miss a lot in return, then what is considered disruptive or trolling? Another case I think is trolling, but you maybe not, was when tham kench just devoured the adc and spit him out infront of the enemy bot lane duo. Is this not considered trolling? After looking at your match history I can safely stop arguing with you, teemo support otp in that elo, why are you so against nubrac then lol.
>I fail to see in what world this kind of behavior, without prior communication, is making it more probable for your team to win. you are free to report the behaviour and the teammate who youi believe trolled will be left to riot. flaming him will do more harm than good and will get you a slap on the wrist in the end too >so why do you say this is not disrupting, because the laner should take cs and the support is there to support. yes it's by no means optimal but there's no rule against it. riot has stated time and again that **they don't enforce the meta** >As you said if it is alright for any support to take cs from your adc and he was trying hard to get a lot of cs, made me miss a lot in return, then what is considered disruptive or trolling? i didn't say it wasn't disruptive. again you **can** but that doesn't mean you **should** is the point of going against the meta. >Another case I think is trolling, but you maybe not, was when tham kench just devoured the adc and spit him out infront of the enemy bot lane duo. Is this not considered trolling? no. that's trolling. report him and if you are still unsure if something will happen, open a ticket and ask for a manual review. but that's all you should do. flaming the tahm is not ok. >After looking at your match history i'd love to understand why the match history of an inactive account is relevant to this conversation. please enlighten me! >I can safely stop arguing with you, you can do whatever you wish >teemo support otp in that elo, why are you so against nubrac then lol. like i said. the problem with nubrac isn't that he was playing teemo support. the problem and reason he got slapped by riot across his pasty white ass was that he left the adc to fend for himself without consulting with it beforehand. aka trolling and doing it to nightblue didn't help either no pick is outright bannable, be it Teemo support, Veigar adc or soraka jungle. wether or not you care about winning is what is important and what riot cares about. if you're trying to win with that pick and is obvious enough to anyone who checks the match afterwards then it's fine. but you don't have to take my word for it. ask support for yourself. :)
: so in the end you can do whatever you want if you do not run it down or flame in chat I see where all the trolls come from now, since this is how riot handles this. as long as you do not care for that account you can literally make a troll account and just annoy your teammates like this. funny why implement roles in the first place thats why nubrac got banned? thanks for info on how to troll people in ranked i guess
>so in the end you can do whatever you want if you do not run it down or flame in chat not what i said but if that's what you got from what i did say... >thats why nubrac got banned? no, dude. much like that support singed, nubrac got banned for abandoning his teammate to fend for huimself without first consulting with him aka trolling
: Because RIOT want money. Stop lying to yourself man.
if they did they'd be selling accounts themselves. instead of banning people who buy/sell them >Stop lying to yourself man.
: And therein lies the problem. DO IT NEXT GAME. WHY ARE THEY ABLE TO DO IT NEXT GAME? BECAUSE RIOT DOESN'T BAN THEM. WE HAVE A WINNER!
and your flaming isn't helping. if people like you didn't flame, riot would have more time to go after inters and trolls than to adress tickets sent by kids having a temper tantrum. you can't fix the problem by being part of it.
: I said I would make it easier for him to understand, it doesn't matter if real violence and him flaming isn't the same. The main point is for him to get why he got banned, and I was willing to show it with being extreme. The person telling his class what book he wants = Showing what champion you want in the game. The person taking that book = Him banning his champion Punching = flaming.. Do i have to keep going?
the problem is that you're literally using the same example flamers use to defend the "i was defending myself" argument. it's a bit hypocritical.
: Support refusing to play support
there's nothing wrong with corrupting potion or taking kills. it's more cost efficient for someone else to take the kill if possible but in solo queue it's better to not trust your adc to be up to the task if you wanna have a good time. particularly if he isn't premade. pushing the lane should be discussed with your lane partner. and the ame goes for cs-ing. of course... if your adc is the ping and "?" spam type when something doesn't go his way, one would feel less inclined to cooperate. a "please let me farm" will do wonders. you should try it! ping and "?" spam are more likely to annoy than anything. and you **do not** want an annoyed support. >despite galio baiting us several times, like just leaving 2v2 or 3v2 there's the possibility of bad decision making btw. you should have it in mind the next time someone does something stupid. trolling is not always the only valid answer. >and mocking/flaming us in chat, you can report him for that. as long as you don't flame him back to "defend yourself", you should be good. just mute. more time efficient. >but just refusing the support item the support item isn't by any means mandatory. >and ksing in lane is really annoying, securing kills is fine too. if you can't outdamage a galio, the problem isnt the galio >and just farming and ksing in lane is really annoying, farming cs isn't against the rules per se. the bottom lane farm doesn't belong to the adc. it belongs to both the adc and the support and it's recommended that the support **allows** the adc to take most of it. but it's by no means a rule. just courtesy. and, again, if he starts farming, don't ping and "?"spam. ask nicely. if he refuses, flaming won't fix the issue and leaving the lane to go afk or troll another lane will make it worse. just do your best to last hit and wait for laning phase to end.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sinful Succubus,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=GgpOGHsn,comment-id=00010001000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-12-09T07:46:02.744+0000) > > you need to stop feeding the troll I don't really think he's trolling, some people are simply that mentally uncapable to understand basic things. I feel sorry for them.
i'm gonna continue to give him the benefit ofthe doubt and say he's a troll
Zanador (EUNE)
: I meant what i said, but i might need to specify it a bit. In the USA the states can issue ID cards, but they are not mandatory for every citizen. Because of this, quite often the driving licence (which do have a federal database as of 2005, but are obviously not mandatory), student ID or passport are used as identification. As such, it is very much possible for a USA citizen to have no official ID cards, especially if their driver's licence has been taken away or if they couldn't get one yet due to being underage. Correct me if i'm wrong somewhere.
TIL muricans don't believe in ids
Zanador (EUNE)
: Oh, but yes. Everyone in these topics are saying it, they just don't like to admit it. Flamers flame because they get angry, frustrated, feel helpless, betrayed or another wide range of emotions. Right from the opening post for example: "Nah, man. I'm %%%%ing sick of hiding how I feel about things." Uncontrolled emotions are the source of flaming.
>they just don't like to admit it. they sure do love to project it tho
Zanador (EUNE)
: That idea has been brought up too but it has a bit too many flaws: For example in the west we usually play on our own PCs, but in every eastern server players most commonly play in net cafes or other similar places. So if the computers were to be banned, then flamers could ruin the netcafé's access to the game, potentially alienating a lot of costumers. And you might want to ask an expert on this, but i've heard that banning a hardware is not without it's loophole either. Even linking phones or IDs wouldn't work either for multiple reasons. Again, in Korea people do have to link their social security number to accounts for any online game, but there is just a massive black market for those so nothing changes. On the other end the USA simply does not have ID cards or any similar systems, so Riot couldn't even do this in their home.
>On the other end the USA simply does not have ID cards or any similar systems i'm gonna assume you meant to say something else. can you rephrase that?
Kashiro (EUNE)
: Unless i don't understand the word instigator... For the sake of a broader discussion don't take the mute so literally. Let's say ignore them, in the game at least. No one denies it's grinding people's gears when you have underperforming team, or straight up inters,but do your best and coperate with people that try to push the game onwards. It took me a while but i'm much happier since i restrained myself from flame. I actually can feel good about games i played even if i lost. Story time, yay I had a game recently where fiddle in the lobby (support) decided we are losers and we can thank him for losing. What was amazing is that not a single person even responded. Since game started he just ran into towers, died, went top for no reason, and people endured it to the point the guy in question just started to play semi-normal. He was still terrible but at least he was not a dead weight.
>Story time, yay I had a game recently where fiddle in the lobby (support) decided we are losers and we can thank him for losing. What was amazing is that not a single person even responded. Since game started he just ran into towers, died, went top for no reason, and people endured it to the point the guy in question just started to play semi-normal. He was still terrible but at least he was not a dead weight. when trolls are ignored they lose their motivation to carry on so they either afk or stop trolling
Malah (EUW)
: Im happy anyway, you do not know.
happy go lucky or just happy?
Paper1 (EUW)
: Hi, not the OP but have read this exchange. I very much want to believe that flamers get banned, but I don't given that most games I play in have at least one. If not that, then others include annoying spam pingers, negative attitude and low effort players. Report system not effective if working at all, because if it was game experience specific to player behaviour would improve but it hasn't.
> Report system not effective if working at all, because if it was game experience specific to player behaviour would improve but it hasn't. the "the justice system is useless because we aren't living in a utopia yet" is not a valid argument, my dude
Malah (EUW)
: You are alone. People do not like spam. 10years and 35lvl yeah and I am millionaire haha.
>People do not like spam. spam? no. flaming? also no. regular conversation and banter, tho? that's another story >10years and 35lvl yeah and I am millionaire haha. i'm unfamiliar with the rule that says i can only comment on the forum from an active account. can you link it for me? maybe i've missed it
Malah (EUW)
: delete chat what it is it right now. Save ping system with timestamps. And problems is solved. Its a game not social media chat.
i've been using chat for the past 10 years and i've never had an issue with riot. why would i be ok with removing it just because you and your peers have polite communication issues?
Malah (EUW)
: ***
and my nickname is relevant because....?
Malah (EUW)
: You know nothing about mental problems. Go away and do not schism people. You know nothing. Another spamer who voting self by multi acc.
>You know nothing about mental problems i know my fair share on the topic >Go away and do not schism people. i don't think that word means what you think it means >Another spamer who voting self by multi acc. i don't need to vote myself when i'm right. you should try it! start at doing some research
: Why flame when you can mute those provoking you? Did you just fail to read my post or? How can you mute a feeder? How can you mute an inter? How can you mute a troll? Please, elaborate.
>How can you mute a feeder? How can you mute an inter? How can you mute a troll? Please, elaborate. you ignore them, report after the game and go next losing a game due to an inter/troll is not the end of the world and feeding is not punishable because feeding =/= inting. it's like comparing tomatoes with apples due to the fact that they're both classified as fruit
: Exactly. They are too lazy to put in just a bit of extra time to ACTUALLY review gameplay and determine whether someone is ruining your experience in other non-mutable ways of bullshit: for example, inting.
yeah. they should totally be able to employ enough people to manually review the millions of hourly reports and not go bankrupt in the process. those damn lazy rioters!
: Hi, I recently read a book. It's called "That's Not How This Works". I'm going to tell you the same thing. That's not how this works. If I'm going to be provoked and induced into anger which not only affects the "victim" but my mental health which, to be honest, is literally ignorant that Riot ignore such a problem at a point in time where mental health is gaining more awareness by the second. By the way, think again before wrongly telling someone to stop rightly blaming someone else.
there's a difference between having a mental health issue and using it as a conveninent excuse when others don't pander to your particular prefferances {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: A toxic community doesn't end well for anyone. A friend put it this way for me once: avocados have cyanide in them. Cyanide is very toxic. However, the small concentration from the avocado pit is not going to harm anyone. Alternatively, if you take a lot of these pits and put all the cyanide together, it becomes more concentrated and is lethal. The only thing flaming trolls does is relieves your anger and lets you calm down and focus on your game. I would also like to note that flame does not mean literal fire. You are not adding anything to the fire. If anything, I'm cooling off from the rage that they've induced.
>The only thing flaming trolls does is relieves your anger and lets you calm down and focus on your game. it also validates the trolls behaviour who are thus compelled to do it again next game trolls troll to get a reaction out of people. by flaming them you give them exactly what they want and setting yourself up for a punishment from riot on top of it. not to mention the fact that instead of being focused on the game, the rest of your team and even your enemy is now focused on the two assholes having a go at each other via keyboard warrior antics maybe it's just me but twitter type drama rama is not what i wanted from a moba when i decided to play it >I would also like to note that flame does not mean literal fire. You are not adding anything to the fire. If anything, I'm cooling off from the rage that they've induced. your argument only works if your flame managed to stop the other person's flaming.(which never happens) just because it helped you cool off, that doesn't mean that everyone else who didn'want to be a part of it in the first place is now happy with your fanning of the flames and it's results
Malah (EUW)
: Delete spamers from game. Make chat for the Pinging option with timestamps, only this for chat. THIS IS HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME SPORTLIKE. RIOT LOST IT AGAIN.
>Make chat for the Pinging option with timestamps, only this for chat. remove chat because a small portion of the community have ego containment issues makes sense to me!
: We Need A Talk
>Why ban flamers? >Why not ban the source of the problem (instigators, griefers, feeders, trolls etc.)? more often than not, they're one and the same and besides, someone else starting it does not make it ok to be just as bad in return >You can't just mute them. You can't just stop them. You can't just turn them off. You can't just mute them. You can't just stop them. Again, you can't stop them. flaming them doesn't solve the problem either and it usually makes things worse
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