: Can we quickly go over how a jungler decides to ganks.
So true. Some people just don't understand...
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: Its about stats. Singed shouldn't be there. There reason you and my other silver or bronze acquiescence believe that there's like no difference between elos ( bad dia, plat, gold) is because you mostly meet this people in normals. They don't try hard as much as in ranked, they don't play their main roles or heroes, they might even test stuff out. A month or two ago i won lane with adc soraka on my smurf. And my positions are: mid > top > janna/nami > leesin/shyvana > adc. Even more if an "off meta" adc. The only difference between me and the silver players waa that i was try harding, even with adc soraka. Anyway gn
I agree again, but still... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8bk93gffPI This is diamond elo apparently, I think trick only mentions it at almost the end of part 3. Not that I believe diamond games are always like this, and these players individualy always play like this. But I can tell I and other silver/gold friends got better decision making then most of these guys based on this video. But oh well, we're very off-topic and it's clear we have different opinions :p which is fine
: The behaviour of the 5 roles in a nutshell!
There's general truth in this :p but I kind of disagree with the adc, but I can to be lucky or something cause I don't get a lot of flamers. In all roles I am the quiet one, throwing an occasional wp.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: The last part is about emotions. The more you care about something that goes wrong. The more it hurts and you try to fight it. So, for example, when you lose in lol. If you care about it you will want to lose less or at least never due to your fault. Since losing still happens, blaming others is the most common way to cope with the problem. The less you care, the less fucks you give, the less tempted you are in pressing enter or actively troll. Makes sense?
Makes complete sense :p But don't you think that in general, someone that is caring soooo much about a win, so much that others should undergo abuse is better off not playing the game for a while?
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: I never disagreed with the fact that said behaviour was wrong. What i disagree with is "the system did something more than giving me a popup" part. And ye, i can tell you don't play a lot of ranked. Your stats are quite on the positive side. Which means if you would play more you will climb till your stats turn average. Still there's a difference in skill level between elos. And that's why it's very rare for silver players to see plat or above people in normals. When they do there's premade issues or said plat+ player plays bad in normals. For you its a bit more tricky since your skill level seems around mid gold. So, when u solo normals you should get a mixture of ex silver gold and plat players. And rarely dia+ Opposite of singed in that game whom should close to never face plats or have them in his team
Alright, fair enough :) When I go solo in normals I get all kinds of stuff, from silver to diamond. In my experience the silver guy on my team isn't always the worst and vice versa the diamond isn't always the best. I mostly play adc/support and don't find a plat opponent too hard actually. But like everyone's games, regardless the rank of my opponent, sometimes I lose, lose hard, go even, win slightly or stomp. Rank, in my view isn't always a representation of how good a player is, especially if that player doesn't play (much) ranked. I do agree it tells something and there is generally a skill difference. Most people however, think it is THE representation of how good they are, to the ultimate point of having a god-complex with their archieved rank, being arrogant or abusive towards lower ranked players. You saying that silver Singed shouldn't be matched with plats shows that. I can recall games last season when I was unranked, no border from the season before, getting matched between plats and a diamond or something similar in a normal. Sometimes instantly getting stuff like: 'gg riot matchmaking' and stuff in chat without ever seeing me play :p That's the reason I don't like ranked and I think the game would be better off not having it, kind off. Placed silver 3 got to gold 5 in 25-30 games, provisionals included last season. I don't feel like I improved that much but with that border now showing I don't get those responses anymore. Not that I could care about that, just wanted that Sivir skin. So, while it doesn't seem right to you that silver singed got placed in that match, it's right to me. And he showed that, cause he was playing very well. Silver jungle singed between us gold and plats was no issue.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: They gave next info in this case: The player you think got punished didn't. Said player is generally not having this kind of behaviour. Said player most likely had a bad day or bad game. I'm not having laptop net while at home till weekend so i can't check for premades. But if that player was solo it also shows they don't care about win or lose in normals. As silver + plat will never happen unless the plat is premade with someone with crap normal mmr. Or they don't give a fuck if they lose normals (so no reason to be "toxic" under normal circumstances)
Ok, last answer now :p - The player you think got punished didn't. Don't care, the message however shows something happened. You say banned, but there are some other punishments as well. - Said player is generally not having this kind of behaviour. Agree - Said player most likely had a bad day or bad game. Agree The rest I don't quite understand fully, sorry. The amount one cares about a win or loss is personal, and it's fine if one thinks a loss is the end of the world. Being toxic however, can get you punished in all game modes I believe.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: The point of my post: syndra didn't get banned or restricted. The other point was that you won't get punished by having bad stats in one game, regardless if you troll or not Ps, im plat 5. Your stats, are better than mine.
You are still missing out on the subject here :p I'm talking about the way someone behaved in game, explained it here to you personally it was the most toxic experience I saw and how good it felt when I got that 'a player you recently reported has been punished' message come up after enduring all that. I don't care if that player got an actual punishment or not because I will never have to play with him again, but that message says at least something gave ear to it. It's good to see the system does something, and this post made some people feel good because they see the system works. And indeed, you won't get punished for having bad stats in a game, but I never said that and never claimed one should. There was a lot of typing in chat, while not the typical swearing or abusing, that made clear something was wrong. I don't play ranked for reasons btw, just want gold V however for the rewards. Cheers
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: I play akali diana malzahar. You got the wrong person to fotm rant at. And i like stats. They help and offer information.
They do (partially), you are right. But sorry, not in this subject.
Sffc (EUW)
: Why are you happy when pedophiles or terrorists get caught?
I know enough, I'll ignore you further whatever you say more. About you, I'm just hoping you're a troll.
Sffc (EUW)
: Actually, quite the opposite. Politicians don't use facts, but use theories and circle around a theme. "What will you do tomorrow?" -> "I will do something great, something that will require time and something that xyz". Not really answering the question, but wasting time. I'm talking about what is real, what you can see if you look closely enough at society. Evidently there are nuances on everything, but you can pretty much fit everyone in the same bag. Feeling pleasure for other's suffering is a dick thing.
Ok man, you convinced me, I'm a dick. I am happy when pedophiles get locked up. I am happy when a terrorist is found and arrested. I'm also happy when I get to see someone I had to report gets a punishment. ... Like you said, i'm the worst kind of person there is :( Thank you for bringing such depth and real facts about my mind to this simple topic.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: syndra didn't get banned, syndra is plat 3, op is silver 3, singed is unranked (silver 2 last season) and the game was a normal one, boring story, nothing happened. just a random "someone got banned" message riot sends from time to time you wana know the funny part, that people still think they did something good when that happens. then it was that one guy that said "i haven't reported anyone in a month, and look, someone just got banned due to my report". Funny shit, this ban message is just a placeebo, like the old "unskilled" report, just to make them feel better about themselves
Sigh... you guys must be real fun. Stats rank and fotm champs above all! If a player, no matter what champ he plays in whatever lane is doing well, he's doing well.
SmB Koji (EUW)
: I wish I could see this screen more often... And trust me, I see plenty of the kind of this Syndra (1/2 games or so). And still, I only had it once... So the system is efficient when it works. The problem is how often it does...
Half of your games? I think your line to what's toxic or not must be lower then me cause everyone should statistically have somewhat alike games. :p Or I could be lucky It was the most nerve wrecking toxicity I've seen in the 3 years I played, and I'm glad I instantly saw this message.
W0ochi (EUW)
: ^ What this guy said really makes sense, i agree with him. I hope the downvotes come from being aggressive towards the other guy (correct or not), rather than his theory. (Though knowing the average summoner, i do not actually expect ppl to have that intellectual lvl to see this)
There's only one guy who can determine if his theory is correct. He's just like a politician, talking shit with many words. I don't blame you falling for it.
Aldduren (EUW)
: I'm still striving towards improving. They ALL happened after the new punishment system came up - i used to speak my mind (but rarely flame teammates) and would often say things like "oh shit" "damn i fucked up" etc. The new punishment system counts that as toxic behaviour, because it doesnt see the circumstances - even if i said "that was fucking amazing!" the "tribunal" would only see "fucking" and count that as toxic behaviour. In other words: They've ALL happened after Season 5.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: because i'm bored: Your account: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=smetn Your post: 1 day ago Your Syndra from a Singed game in a loss: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=aiquemelol Last game 7 hours ago. Now, I don't want to be rude or anything. But hey look, that player is still doing fine and playing it. So, get over it :D Yeeeeeeees, I like making people feel bad right now. I will be more nice next week tho. Also, as far as stats go: Syndra had 8.1cs per minute, highest gold in your team. 3rd in terms of damage (after irelia and singed). A KDA of 1 with 27% kill participation and 6 deaths total. The system won't recognize that as trolling or "a not sportsmanship conduit". Per contrast, your Vayne game yesterday: 0.67 KDA, 22% kill share, 3.8cs per minute (that means you got like 2 cs per wave out of 6-7 minions). Lowest damage in the game. Even the second lowest damage in the game was twice as much as yours. And look, you are still playing. You still ain't banned or penalized. Just like that player ain't banned or penalized ;) trolls have over 20 games in a row with shitty score lines and still ain't facing bans or restrictions. Nor you, nor syndra will face anything having a bad game every now and then. edit: if you want to see more bad stats, look at mine, either server is fine. Still not banned hue
Your point doesn't make sense because you are not talking about the actual subject. I hope this gives you some more clarity: Shortly, think about this: someone going 30/0, doing super good. but at 40 minutes he decides to not team up for baron after calling it a few times then this person says: no, I want to take gromp. Suiciding in their base, taking minions in enemy jungle while the enemy is sieging inhibiter turret for a while, etc... All calls denying firmly IN CHAT. In your view a nice player? I'm not even saying she does that all of the games, I even believe in both winning and losing games it's a reasonable person. she could have had a real bad day or something. And it's not even trolling, it's intentionally wanting to lose a game because in her mind a Singed jungle is bullshit (which kinda is), it didn't matter he was doing really well, 1 player decided to make it as hard as possible for us to finish this winning game while SAYING IT HERSELF IN CHAT. It's toxic as fuck. Trolling, while it loses games as well has a funny tone to it. I have a comment here about my view on toxicity and what's not, have you red it? About that vayne game, it was full premade and we all know why we lost. I never said I'm a god at the game, sometimes I carry, sometimes I get carried. Sometimes I go for say 10/0 by 20 minutes and lose the game, sometimes I go 0/10 by 20 minutes and win the game. Goes for basically everyone and it is how it is. I just don't like how you point the finger at me and start talking about stats, cause I'm not complaining about things like "Can't get out of bronze ello hell these noob teammates". Some here like to see it different, but I'm not even complaining about this game. Like what do I care about a lost game? This is about BEHAVIOUR, I care for the behaviour of people. How this player acted made salty, not that I was about to lose the game. Better read everything and see the bigger picture before making a comment like that. No offence though! Cheers
: So you basically took your sweet time to get a picture and post it in here to satisfy your false sense of higher morality? The title of the post is not: "another proof that the instant feedback system works". It is more like a middle finger to that specific guy. Well done sir, holding on a virtual grudge like that is kinda normal and not toxic at all. It is a NORMAL game. Why all the silver players on earth has to take normal games so damn seriously? You win, you lose, you report, move on. Maybe try have a laugh somewhere in there. You did well to report the guy if he refused to cooperate for the victory, ofc, nobody sane could tell you the opposite, but this little overdo-show you just did put you in place not so far away from where this guy is. Hint: it is a salty place.
Aldduren (EUW)
: This feels good. You deserve to feel good about this. Nothing wrong about a little innocent revenge. And hey, i have Four (Yes, FOUR) permabanned accounts because of my bad behaviour. Getting banned was the best thing that has happened to me since i got addicted to League. I was falling further and further along the asshole-path, but the permaban made me realize just how much i stake by acting like a dickhead and speaking my (often very mean) mind. In a way, i hope you get to see more of these messages - though that would mean you'd first have to suffer through more toxic matches...
Just curious, how old were you when you made the change? Like whut 4 permabans? :D
: did you report just after game? or you did requst at boards?
Fôx1ne (EUNE)
: we talking about someone who says in the lobby i go feed/troll in game score 0/10/0 34 cs at 37 mins and when you write a dumb,idiot,noob,feeder in the in game chat guess who will get the ban in the end
I guess you got the ban in the end?
: care to explain how this guy "care about the rules because they do not want to be punished"? from what i can see is a guy who realy dislikes people who activly ruin games and feel good when the system works and punishes such people you seem to be putting alot of your own personal assuptions here as fact.. if one were to use me and those people i play with as an example.. we do not break the rules.. because there's no point in doing so and actually feel like flaming and all that shit does nothing but make the game worse I have no fear of punishment.. even though i actually type what i feel would be required for any situation a small list of situations so that you can get a feel for how i think: * a flaming bastard - no point in responding (perhaps with a "could you stop flaming?" type of response) * a trolling bastard - no point in saying anything.. it will not make then stop trolling.. and there's a decent chance they want someone to react by flaming * someone simply failing/playing bad/doing many mistakes - i either try to keep his/hers spirit up if they seem to be tilting, try to give some small hint to what not to do "please wait for the whole team" "dont engage they are to fed".. if they respond in a negative way to this.. meh fuck it.. have them figure things out by themselves all of us also enjoy seeing that popup from time to time.. because that shows us that the system works.. and that the games of other people like us will not contain the flaming/trolling individual.. I could not give a single fuck about the childish little creature that decide to ruin games.. but i do feel for those people who would happen to be in one of his games if they were not punished you seem to have a very simpleminded concept of how people think
> [{quoted}](name=Great Dohvahkiin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=2A6yUaxz,comment-id=000200000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-11T12:43:34.294+0000) > > care to explain how this guy "care about the rules because they do not want to be punished"? .... > you seem to have a very simpleminded concept of how people think Appreciate your comment man!
: care to explain how this guy "care about the rules because they do not want to be punished"? from what i can see is a guy who realy dislikes people who activly ruin games and feel good when the system works and punishes such people you seem to be putting alot of your own personal assuptions here as fact.. if one were to use me and those people i play with as an example.. we do not break the rules.. because there's no point in doing so and actually feel like flaming and all that shit does nothing but make the game worse I have no fear of punishment.. even though i actually type what i feel would be required for any situation a small list of situations so that you can get a feel for how i think: * a flaming bastard - no point in responding (perhaps with a "could you stop flaming?" type of response) * a trolling bastard - no point in saying anything.. it will not make then stop trolling.. and there's a decent chance they want someone to react by flaming * someone simply failing/playing bad/doing many mistakes - i either try to keep his/hers spirit up if they seem to be tilting, try to give some small hint to what not to do "please wait for the whole team" "dont engage they are to fed".. if they respond in a negative way to this.. meh fuck it.. have them figure things out by themselves all of us also enjoy seeing that popup from time to time.. because that shows us that the system works.. and that the games of other people like us will not contain the flaming/trolling individual.. I could not give a single fuck about the childish little creature that decide to ruin games.. but i do feel for those people who would happen to be in one of his games if they were not punished you seem to have a very simpleminded concept of how people think
Look, how it is for me: I can tolerate flamers or insults as long as they play, learned to use the mute button a long time ago. I don't really mind how good/bad people are playing, as long it's not stuff like towerdiving till they die 10x in a row. Complete useless troll builds, I remember a sated devourer/nashors/rageblade Elise on my team a few weeks ago. I do think it's pity, doing a build that you know just doesn't work, I tolerated it because she was still trying to play Elise and the game like one normally would. It was a little frustrating we lost cause we were ahead before it got basically a 4v5. Heck, even I don't do it myself, I'm even ok with AFK's as long as the game is clearly lost and the team won't surrender. But ruining someones game by AFK in fountain, or intentionally not cooperating with the team for no reason at all, while STILL TALKING just grinds my gears cause it's such arrogant behavior. Same as when you are jungling a tank, and someone following you stealing all jungle creeps while adding a ':)' after each creep. For details about this specific game: Ally picked singed jungle, and saw he was doing really well, I think there must have happened something during a gank for syndra which failed, after she could only say stuff like: "See jungle singed doesn't work", "If you do what you want, I do what I want".... And it didn't matter we were winning a tad later, singed maybe made some mistakes, but 'Singed jungle is complete bullshit' so she decided we should all just lose, period. Talk so full of herself it was disgusting. It's a long time ago someone in this game made me actually feel so annoyed, wp for that! And I know I probably shouldn't be, but seeing this message pop up right after the postgame lobby was closed released dem feel good chemicals in my brain :p and came as a relief. And seeing some comments, it seems to give other players trust :) And btw, I'm not scared to get punished at all, I don't even use chat all that much except for calling drakes and saying wp!
Sffc (EUW)
: ***
This isn't about the 'rules' btw, you say you don't care about the rules, because they are immoral? There is this thing called: politeness, you know? The rules in this game are about politeness. Without knowing me, you are saying I am the worst kind of person? Come on, I can't take you serious man. You are so wrong on many levels, but that's the last to be said, I'm not going to bother spending time on you.
Sffc (EUW)
: You
Well I do get pleasure from this. Seeing a toxic a player wasting a game for no reason at all, while being cocky at it. "I'm playing my own game". "What do you mean I'm not cooperating? I'm splitpushing!" "Singed trolls me, I troll you..." And all that crap... I muted her ingame, didn't really care for it since it was a normal. But it's nice to be at the right end after all.
Adama (EUW)
: You can't know if it's actually him who got ''penalized''. I always take my own experience as an example: I reported someone, and got this message like 2 days and 5 games later. Meaning that it could be anyone you reported recently.
Didn't have to report anyone lately, not for unsportsmanlike behaviour at least. And a premade friend got it aswell at the same time :D
Kissekotten (EUNE)
: You should not publish summoner name
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IAmWoralo (EUW)
: My wife doesn't like League anymore
In normals, I rarely see toxic people. Maybe 1800 wins have something to do with that. If she wants to play a game in all serenity, I have a tip for her: mute all people from the start. May not work for you, but definitly for her. EDIT: As I see many people suggesting to find positive players to play with: feel free to add me :D
: "It's just a normal" -.-
Playing risky (=/= go retard) is what you should do in normals, to test the limits of your champion. In rankeds you should play more safely ofcourse and when you need to go aggressive, you know that limit, that's what I think. Still a lot of people go retard indeed.
Princeyy (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A8E6OkyE,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-03-04T18:42:52.338+0000) > > Send a support ticket. Persist and they will respond with some actual investigation. Yeah im planning on being a pain in the ass until i find out exactly why they have decided im account sharing
You do that, you don't have anything to lose
: Why do the french get "the most hate" in this game?
They are not necessarily bad, but some french often start speaking french in chat without premades, which is really weird and makes them stand out being french. Then they might suck, and we think they are bad.
: Is it time to reveal our faces again? I think it is! (Boards IRL thread)
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Four Star (EUW)
: Who and when did you get your first penta kill with?
My first was with Sivir in aram, summer 2014, in oktober 2014 I got my first on SR with Jinx, had 1 aram and 5 SR penta's more till now, only with adc's.
: Zombie Slayer stickers available now!
Can I find them for facebook? {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Smetn (EUW)
: Featured mode idea
The abilities the champion gets is random and you can't choose it yourself. FE you pick caitlyn. When you get in game she has: ekko passive, bard q, diana w, kalista e and nocturne ult. Its just about trolling and suprising your enemy :p
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kelthour (EUW)
: Is silver the new bronze ?
I started playing ranked about a month ago for the first time and got places in silver 3, made it to gold 5 just in 5 days. I dont know about silver 5-4 but I can say silver 1 is a LOT better then gold 5 imo. Ppl there just do their best to get to gold I guess...
Tsukaza (EUW)
: "I will AFK because I did not get Ekko"
Wait it out a few weeks, and you'll be able to play him basically non-stop :) Its not worth the 7800 IP at all...
Rioter Comments
: 20 rune pages ~ could use more?
As more and more champions getting released I also would like to see the rune and mastery pages being raised to 30 or something.

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