: I just played a game of him in jungle and his damage is really weak. W and r don't scale well and E just tickles enemies. Kinda disapointing.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=tYAf9aBv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T21:50:13.010+0000) > > I just played a game of him in jungle and his damage is really weak. W and r don't scale well and E just tickles enemies. Kinda disapointing. I hate he ult, like next level hate it.
Cypherous (EUW)
: There is a hack i've heard of that will let you play any champ you want, but don't tell riot because they will fix it Its called a premade
> [{quoted}](name=Cypherous,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=tYAf9aBv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-14T21:51:23.029+0000) > > There is a hack i've heard of that will let you play any champ you want, but don't tell riot because they will fix it > > Its called a premade What are you on about? Bloody premade.
: you know his fame's gonna die after like a week right? happens to every new champ/rework, and this panth is literally the exact same just with extra features and a different shaped r and without the auto/turret auto dodging shield
> [{quoted}](name=CampYourLane,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=tYAf9aBv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-14T21:49:53.037+0000) > > you know his fame's gonna die after like a week right? happens to every new champ/rework, and this panth is literally the exact same just with extra features and a different shaped r and without the auto/turret auto dodging shield Yes, but the rework isn't that great for one, and 2 i have to wait and a week, and at least month before i can touch him in a ranked game.
Rioter Comments
: Just theory. You don't have proofs because you don't know the actual MMR. Maybe what you say there is 70-80% true, but without the math in the background you don't know for sure. Understand the difference between theories and facts.
The chance of it being what i say are high unless you can find a different type of way. Which would be impossible. The game has to have some sort average for every tier to match you with or else it goes to shit. Riot don't have so new magic why, they use the same thing every one else does but doesn't show it, so we don't have fact to back up how trash match making really is.
Cypherous (EUW)
: > No its not. Let me put in simple terms for you. Let me put it in simple terms for you **You do not know the MMR of a given match** At all, period, its literally impossible unless you work at riot > Lets say the diamond mmr total is 2500 average for a game to kick off. Despite this not being how matchmaking actually works at all :P > The game will try to make that up. Except, it won't, which you would know, had you actually READ the matchmaking article riot has on their own support site that outlines how matchmaking actually works > The P4 with 75% win is a smurf so has P1/D4 Mmr so performing above his rank. The p1 even with negative win rate still has P1/D4 mmr but is duoing with p4 so is proping him up. So the game gets confused and try's it best to make that 2.5k average by giving me D3. Again, entirely false > The enemy all get D4's and maybe a P1 to balance that out. All the game tries to do average the total mmr based on the rank of the player, so each rank will have a set mmr which is then used form a team. Please, go and read the matchmaking article so you can stop embarrassing yourself and to stop you spreading false information I'll even link you the article https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-Guide Your rank has NOTHING to do with how matches are made, only your MMR, which you don't have access to is used, but lots of people incorrectly cite 3rd party sites as a source of their MMR or incorrectly assume your winrate and rank dictates your MMR, because neither of these things do what you think they do
"533" Found this helpful. Ye that's deffo not how match making works. The game will always try to reach an average, always has and always will. No matter if know about it or not. Its been the same crap for the last 9yrs. (Also match making is %%%%ed by duo's who are not of the same rank, because it has no idea how to function with the huge mmr difference) That's why you get incosist team's when people pre and that's why D4's can't match with anything below P1 because the game can't handle it. Proven fact that no one in P4 with that kinda of negative win rate will ever be matched with D4's unless he pre's with P1.
Cypherous (EUW)
: Not really, i don't see any riot posts in that thread, hence there is zero actual evidence of what his MMR is, only what he "thinks" it is, nobody outside of riot knows what your MMR actually is, its a really simple concept to understand
No its not. Let me put in simple terms for you. Lets say the diamond mmr total is 2500 average for a game to kick off. The game will try to make that up. The P4 with 75% win is a smurf so has P1/D4 Mmr so performing above his rank. The p1 even with negative win rate still has P1/D4 mmr but is duoing with p4 so is proping him up. So the game gets confused and try's it best to make that 2.5k average by giving me D3. The enemy all get D4's and maybe a P1 to balance that out. All the game tries to do average the total mmr based on the rank of the player, so each rank will have a set mmr which is then used form a team.
Cypherous (EUW)
: I'm still not seeing any proof of his MMR
Then you're delutional
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Yes but his mmr isn't even diamond And you know this how exactly? you don't appear to have a riot tag in your name and only riot actually knows peoples MMR's
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/kp1FytKV-so-is-climbing-based-on-skill-or-is-based-on-whom-you-get-as-team-mates Go take a read
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Yes but his mmr isn't even diamond And you know this how exactly? you don't appear to have a riot tag in your name and only riot actually knows peoples MMR's
Cause even when i had 70% win rate in p4 i wasn't being matched with %%%%ing diamond's. Hell i wasn't being matched with diamond at 72% win rate in P2. "Hense team average P2"
Cypherous (EUW)
: Because winrate isn't used for matchmaking as its a pointless stat
Yes but his mmr isn't even diamond, he's getting propt up by that p1 adc who's also negative. I still don't get why riot allows this and still don't understand why p1's can pre with p4's yet D4's can't.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: because he is premade with teh P4 with 80+% win rate
Wrong he's pre with adc who's also negative, but is p1.
Rioter Comments
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: ofcourse you would kill them before the game starts they had absolutely nothing beside some items and half asses synergies you won because you had more rank 3s not because you did something smart
I did nothing smart, apart from get some nice rng on the champ shards.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: the mode where to climb you should be in top4 instead of winning every game where you are competing with 8 people giving you a statistical chance of winning of 12.5% it's your choice to surrender or to not play
No one is complaining about climbing, i'm complaing because item rng sucks ass so does champ rng. I can hit top 3 mostly every game as long as i'm not %%%%ed up by the item rolls. Last game i got 3rd and that was only because the other 2 members had more items then i did. The number 1 guy had 3 level 3 champs with a total of like 7 items.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: you are playing against monkeys including you being a monkey wild brawler endg ame pirate half imperial 2x blademaster how are these people in top 3 oh and your amazing build 2 knight pnahtom 2 sorc i have no clue how you found these monkeys and how you were incapable of actually forming a cohesive team comp nor do i have the clue of how you actually managed to not have one enemy that had a brain cell
One don't call other people monkeys. 2. Don't get full off your self you're not a good player either. The reason that comp works so well, if you've played the game is you can get some nice rng rolls on their hyper carryies and kill them before the round even starts. But you should know that considering you're smart and all. Also my level 3's where stacked. Go learn how the game works then get talking.
: I started losing that way, until I found a comp and the perfect timing to reroll. Now, I'm actually winning even with bad starts
Ye i'm also winning with bad strats, totally. Like 3rd game in a row where dragon hasn't dropped anything and i'm yet to find my last token to make my level 3. But every other top person is rocking everything they need since they don't have to reroll for champs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Son of spartar,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-07-02T19:54:27.234+0000) > > What is there to understand? How is not rng, when where going for sorta the same comp, but the other guy obtains 2 shards while you get 0? How's it no rng when, a guy gets all the item drops yet you're stuck with nothing. Its great seing a guy have 2 item's on the main carry while you're wasting gold to obtain some sort of stabily. > > The game ins't hard, its just luck with how well you role, in order to get a lead. Early game means nothing in this game. I just won a game where I got no item from PvE in the two first rounds. For champions the RNG is biased, hence a way to do better with it. And you just said it clearly : you're wasting gold. Don't waste gold, it makes you lose. Once again : don't blame RNG for your mistakes.
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/0acd3d880959846f0cfc7bf20018f0e1-png.jpg I didn't lose a single round. Tell me again how the early game means nothing? Are we even playing the same game?
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-02T19:18:21.474+0000) > > TFT is only RNG.There is no skill or tactit or strategy….Sorry but its truth.People can deny this but its the ugly TRUTH. > > I lost many games just bcs enemy had bunch of items or lv 3 Champions...While me wasnt even close for lv 3 champs. Oh yeah, you take champions that are taken a lot and then you are surprised you don't have one. It's either pure RNG, or, maybe, a known mecanic saying all players pick in the same pool, and the more a champion is picked, the less there is. But yeah, blame the RNG. Rush for champions instead of items in carousel, blame RNG. You don't understand the game, blame RNG.
What is there to understand? How is not rng, when where going for sorta the same comp, but the other guy obtains 2 shards while you get 0? How's it no rng when, a guy gets all the item drops yet you're stuck with nothing. Its great seing a guy have 2 item's on the main carry while you're wasting gold to obtain some sort of stabily. The game ins't hard, its just luck with how well you role, in order to get a lead.
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: TFT is only RNG.There is no skill or tactit or strategy….Sorry but its truth.People can deny this but its the ugly TRUTH. I lost many games just bcs enemy had bunch of items or lv 3 Champions...While me wasnt even close for lv 3 champs.
Hey i won a game where there was no chance me losing, because guess what i rng'ed the right champs and items at the start. I didn't have to roll as much because i was so stacked meaning i could place more units. Litterly won at the start of the game. The game was rushed, lets hope ranked doesn't come out before they fix this shit. Its a fun game, until you're their screaming for at least a item drop or champ shard.
: It's pretty dull, it's either glacial, sorcerer or draven in the end. All the rest of the stuff that could be cool is severely gimped and the only thing that can stop those previously mentioned builds is if more than one person is going for them and they just starve themselves because of the shared champion pool.
Its beyond stupid, i spent 60 gold just to role on my last kata and %%%% all. I couldn't manage any level 3's even with only 2 people in the game left. I lost on the soul purpose he had more level 3's then i did. I had 0.
Rioter Comments
: TFT item drop is GARBAGE
Like i'm building really good comps, just to get out matched by some one who's got more items then me. Worst one is seing like an enemy vayne with with rageblade, phantom dance and bf. while You're stuck with a %%%%ing gaints belt.
: Why do People have the need to smurf?
Cause its the only real way to test out champions. Normal game's are brain dead, its uneven and the game never lasts long enough for you to do anything. Also there is nothing to gain after hitting the rank you want. Me personally i'm a diamond player very comfortably, i have no reason to torture my self and try to hit anything above D4 because its not worth the time or stress to have to deal with coinflips. If riot didn't cap the crappy rewards at gold, then more people would climb and try improve. Climb above gold is either to test your skill or boost your Ego. So its either be forced to play really bad and boring normal game's, hit up flex or make a new account to semi challenge your self.
: > [{quoted}](name=Son of spartar,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=3o08PTIp,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-05T19:38:02.557+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ZQ3WELTy-tahm-top Made the post about 6 days ago and on wait down voted. People will not accept something is broken, unless the pro's abuse the shit out of it. Casual League players, as soon as you complain about something they start shrieking about it. Even if the complaint is valid. Especially with bugs, which I totally dont understand. There are some champs that I play that have severe bugs or things that don't quite work as they should and I say it. Every time I do I get screamed down for it, people have to leave their anger from losing games somewhere, guess the forum is the best place to do so.
I'm Diamond player and have played this game for years, i understand when a champ is broken. Unless pro players abuse the champ then the boards won't care because they haven't faced it yet, or it isn't norm. Just like sion and banner of command, no one carried until it broke the game and every person around abused it to the point of no return. Tahm top is pretty much un counter-able unless you have some mad dps to get through his tankiness. Also his q hit box is next level, i've had it miss and still hit.
: Punishment system.
https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/R3Yi2s4N-permanent-bans?comment=0003 There was a post made about this... https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/off-topic-en/8wcMr1Jh-improve-your-bloody-ban-system Or this.
: Yeah for some reason most people here defend the game like it's perfect or something.
Small minded people hate seeing their free ticket to climb nurfed, aatrox and tahm need addressing, but people will defend it all they can. Cause hey its free lp at the end of the day if you're semi decent.
: How come Tahm is not disabled yet?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ZQ3WELTy-tahm-top Made the post about 6 days ago and on wait down voted. People will not accept something is broken, unless the pro's abuse the shit out of it.
Rioter Comments
Adama (EUW)
: so many trolls in low diamond lmao I've played this game for 7 years and never have I seen it worse.
You think you have it bad? I hit P1 with 72% win rate, and I've lost 3 diamond 4 promo's in less then a day because all i get is boosted ape's, now i'm down back to 0 lp because i'm getting monkeys who give about 5 kills in the first 5 mins of the game, then proceed to troll. So i'm slowly start to troll as well, they wanna lose my game's ill lose them Lp. Sadly its the only way to go, the more i try to win and climb the more trolls so i get. So if i can't beat them, ill join them. Oh ye and last season i hit D3 promo's lost both because extreme feeding, then dropped back to D5 in less then a week. Diamond is not worth it anymore duo how bad match making is.
Cypherous (EUW)
: Not sure how that counts as "good" it means you've done something stupid before and i remembered your name :P
Cypherous (EUW)
: Your name is familiar :P
Rioter Comments
: You can play drafts. Or Flex. To learn how to play around them.
you're still not getting the gist are you? Unless you're playing some heavy dps champs you're not gonna do shit against them. I've played this game for 9 yrs i can see op shit from a mile away.
: That's your personal problem that you don't even want to overcome.
I've tried and lost enough lp, i'd rather tank that 3lp loss then the 14. Tell me how you going to beat em, when you're dead before aftershocks worn off? Where talking going up vs D4 players, not silvers.
: Runing from fears is not good option...
Nah man just isn't going happen, ik free loss when i see one.
Rioter Comments
Trias000 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Son of spartar,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=UWEn7EcA,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-24T23:18:12.287+0000) > > i'm just a lot better then these people. My climbing is stopped by others. Said every player in League of Legends.
But my win rate show's that... I'm better. If i wasn't good then i'd be sitting at 50% win rate, not 72%. Also its more about being allowed a dodge in promo's so you're not forced to lose game because other can take advantage of your situation. You can say all you want, but my stats show that my skill is a lot higher then my current rank. Since i manged to go from P4-P2 and skipped p3 which usually is impossible.
Trias000 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Son of spartar,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=UWEn7EcA,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-24T21:53:12.032+0000) > > It means i have to play more games then needed to climb On average - no. You will get "free" loses when you get bad comps, autofilled players etc. But you'll also get free wins when that happens to the enemy team. Overall, you gain nothing and lose nothing. Ironically, you only really lose time when someone dodges.
https://gyazo.com/3141e4fc82722b3f3e6f9a665cc0f8bd Ye climing because "others" Nah i'm climbing because i'm just a lot better then these people. My climbing is stopped by others.
Trias000 (EUNE)
: So what's the problem? If you're good enough, eventually you'll win your promos. Losing one of them is not the end of the world. Especially with a free win after that.
It means i have to play more games then needed to climb, if you're not dodging game's then you're going to struggle climbing. The higher the elo the more you have to dodge so you don't get %%%%ed over by match making. The chances you winning a game in D+ with some who never plays the role are slim as %%%%.
: Autofill jgl, autofill sup, autofill top. Have a nice promo, sir.
Third time i went 3-0 with normal teams, and with no one auto fills. already in p3 promo's with 70% win rate.
Cypherous (EUW)
: > I never said i was stuck? Note the "if" > If you've got under 50% win rate in your own elo then you're clearly boosted. Not really, it just means you were incorrectly placed which can happen a lot during placements due to the massive gains you're given for winning, so if you got pretty lucky you could easily be placed far too high and you would need to lose quite a bit to be demoted correctly > (This account is boards account which was sitting at 60% win rate before 8 game losing spree in plat. But my other account is at 68% win rate Would of been 70+ if hadn't go trolled in 3 promo game's) So the first question is, why do you need 2 accounts and why are you not posting on that account, i mean, you're ranked higher on this account than the one you linked, and considering you're smurfing in a lower ELO bracket a higher winrate is hardly surprising, it would be like a challenger playing in bronze, doesn't really indicate their actual skill level
How am i playing in lower elo when i'm vsing plats and diamond in gold? That's not low elo...
Cypherous (EUW)
: > There is no winning when your team is boosted to oblivion. Do you have evidence of ELO boosting or are you just making assumptions about things? my money is on the latter > Stop trying to give me advice i've got a D4 account i know how to climb. Cool, then go and do it, i mean if you're stuck that clearly means you don't have what it takes to climb, especially if you're just out to blame your team for losing > Or else my win rate wouldn't be 70% would it? If your winrate was 70% you wouldn't be complaining about the occasional bad player as you would still continue to climb even with them there, your winrate as of 10 days ago on op.gg was 56%, and looking at the last 10 days of ranked matches you have 0 ranked matches played according to your match history, so where are you getting a 70% winrate from exactly?
I never said i was stuck? When did i say i was stuck? Where am i'm i complaining i can't climb? I simple asked that we have a dodge available for game's i now full well are losses. If you've got under 50% win rate in your own elo then you're clearly boosted. (This account is boards account which was sitting at 60% win rate before 8 game losing spree in plat. But my other account is at 68% win rate Would of been 70+ if hadn't go trolled in 3 promo game's) https://gyazo.com/859c855a4f6ab4f221b8b3a9584fa3de I can carry game's every easy as long as my team doesn't go on feeding spree and loses the game by 15 mins. Your advice is piss poor, have you even played ranked before at a decent level other then bronze?
Cypherous (EUW)
: Yes i saw the screenshot, and you "carry" by taking charge during the match and by being positive and by trying to get your team to work as one, i'm willing to bet there was a lot of pointless flaming going on in that match, some of it probably from yourself, you win by keeping your team together as a leader, if you can't do that then you deserved the loss, its the same for the matches i lose, its because I didn't do enough to keep things working, stop looking at everyone elses failings and think what YOU could have done better to assist them
There is no winning when your team is boosted to oblivion. Stop trying to give me advice i've got a D4 account i know how to climb. Or else my win rate wouldn't be 70% would it?
Rarylith (EUW)
: So true and if you get disconnected then you automatically loose promo, that has happened a fair few times, or someone will be mad because someone else banned their shaco and will play disco nunu and you loose your promo cause no one dodged
Its not even that, like one game i had a cait with 36% win rate, look at the screen shot and the other 2 game's both my junglers where autofilled top mains, who'd never jungled! How the %%%% do i compete with that when match making is %%%%ing me from the get go.
Cypherous (EUW)
: Yes you still need to prove you deserve that promotion, you odn't get to pick and choose your battles when it counts, if you can't carry well enough to deal with this sort of stuff then do you really deserve it
Did you even see the screen shot? How do i carry that? Care to explain? I played the 3 promo's game's 2 day, I had 2 top mains as jungler's and both did shit, and one game a team with a combined total of over 30+ deaths. So tell me how do i win?
Cypherous (EUW)
: No, because you're supposed to prove you deserve to be promoted and that you can carry a team, also, unless you're psychic you don't know the scores until the match ends when you can't dodge :P
Prove to riot i'm not gold when i'm playing p2's and d4 in gold 1... While the P2 players are getting 10+ deaths plus...
Rioter Comments
: Solo Queue is not worth the grind for Plat+
To be honest no point playing after gold, But anything around Gold 1 and Plat 4 are just a bunch of boosted players. I get better players in silver and low gold then i do high gold/low plat. The higher i go the worse the team gets, since they're un-carry able people. The worst elo is 100% plat %%%%ing 4.
Black0Price (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LordBadToo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=R3Yi2s4N,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2019-05-20T14:08:23.995+0000) > > I've gotten feedback that people were punished for games I have reported in which all the guy did was say "You suck, uninstall". > > So your wrong about that. > > Also if you really want to see a guy banned, you make a ticket, then their is a real person who is going to look at that game. That can get you banned as well. > > No one wants toxic players in their game, this isn't about being buttheard, this is just integrity and respect for the E-Sports community. You want to be a trash talking infant, go do it elsewhere. - I just wanted to say something , when making a ticket to riot about a player like reporting or something , they don't really care if u didn't report him after the match, they don't do anything with tickets because I have submitted about like 3 tickets for some negative players and all they can do is to say we can't do anything , u have to report him after the match ... so Riot agents cannot help you actually even if u had solid evidence of screenshots ... also The reporting system after the match is handled by AI system
The ticket system is a bot also, its very rare any ticket will be acted upon. I've send video evidence and its always the same response. In all the tickets i've sent 1 person has got punished and that was because he was taking smite bot lane as support and trolling. Dude was 0W-20L. Averging about 12 deaths a game, and i repeat only got banned because i sent the ticket or else the system wouldn't of got him.
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