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: Except when fed, he doesn't just pop off in teamfights - he can 1v2, maybe 1v3 because of his idiotic levels of damage of every single type, and the ridiculous levels of omnisteal that allow him to negate both full-tanks (with supposed "counter" items like thornmail) and enchanter supports' damage, while BURSTING the adc. Nerfing is absolutely the way to go, and if mechanics are rewarded more than strategy, this game might as well become a first-person shooter, maybe a CS:GO clone. For example, this is how league used to handle infinitely scaling Nasus: Thornmail used to deal pre-mitigation damage taken. 30%, if I remember correctly. This meant that with enough armor and thronmail, Nasus would be one-shotting himself long before you. Now, fed yi jumps on you and you die. Health won't save you, Armor won't save you, Lifesteal won't save you, you won't be able to wait out his ult with GA or Zhonya because he can meditate, you won't be able to out-lifesteal him, you won't be able to deal more DPS than him, you won't kite him, you won't be able to counterbuild him, and you certainly won't be able to burst through his Phantom Dancer, Sterak's, Barrier (he doesn't need flash or ghost with Nimbus Cloak), Mediatate, Hexdrinker or Challenging Smite. Getting Lee or Shaco to counterjungle him so you're level 7 while he's level 4 is not a solution to the problem that he has the potential to be literally unstoppable. Especially in a game where Instant Feedback bans you if you die too many times, and you can't farm the jungle without smite, you should ALWAYS have control over whether you live or die if you're at 100% hp in a 1v1 situation, or 1v2 if close to your tower. Yeah this isn't just about Yi. It's about Zed overkilling you before his ult pops. It's about Teemo autoattacking you under your own tower. It's about a feeding Nasus who happened to build sheen running you down when he hits level 6 and you're level 8.
> [{quoted}](name=PhD in Nasus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T21:54:01.136+0000) > > Except when fed, he doesn't just pop off in teamfights - he can 1v2, maybe 1v3 because of his idiotic levels of damage of every single type, and the ridiculous levels of omnisteal that allow him to negate both full-tanks (with supposed "counter" items like thornmail) and enchanter supports' damage, while BURSTING the adc. > > Nerfing is absolutely the way to go, and if mechanics are rewarded more than strategy, this game might as well become a first-person shooter, maybe a CS:GO clone. > > For example, this is how league used to handle infinitely scaling Nasus: > Thornmail used to deal pre-mitigation damage taken. 30%, if I remember correctly. This meant that with enough armor and thronmail, Nasus would be one-shotting himself long before you. > > Now, fed yi jumps on you and you die. Health won't save you, Armor won't save you, Lifesteal won't save you, you won't be able to wait out his ult with GA or Zhonya because he can meditate, you won't be able to out-lifesteal him, you won't be able to deal more DPS than him, you won't kite him, you won't be able to counterbuild him, and you certainly won't be able to burst through his Phantom Dancer, Sterak's, Barrier (he doesn't need flash or ghost with Nimbus Cloak), Mediatate, Hexdrinker or Challenging Smite. > > Getting Lee or Shaco to counterjungle him so you're level 7 while he's level 4 is not a solution to the problem that he has the potential to be literally unstoppable. > > Especially in a game where Instant Feedback bans you if you die too many times, and you can't farm the jungle without smite, you should ALWAYS have control over whether you live or die if you're at 100% hp in a 1v1 situation, or 1v2 if close to your tower. > > Yeah this isn't just about Yi. It's about Zed overkilling you before his ult pops. It's about Teemo autoattacking you under your own tower. It's about a feeding Nasus who happened to build sheen running you down when he hits level 6 and you're level 8. I still feel like you don't get how champion kits work.
: Then we are on the same road! I think that he should be more tankier, getting some, slightly, higher base dmg on his abilities, but much lower ap ratios. Maybe he needs a "hp-ratio" (instead of higher base dmg) to further encourage building tank on gragas. But since gragas is picked as jungler instead of midlane he will build ap to increase his clearing speed..
> [{quoted}](name=Kill and Win,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-25T11:06:54.142+0000) > > Then we are on the same road! I think that he should be more tankier, getting some, slightly, higher base dmg on his abilities, but much lower ap ratios. Maybe he needs a "hp-ratio" (instead of higher base dmg) to further encourage building tank on gragas. But since gragas is picked as jungler instead of midlane he will build ap to increase his clearing speed.. I think that a mix of completely removing his AP and giving him lower CD's and higher base damage will be the best option.
DeCoqq (EUW)
: Every tank champ is a joke, has been over a year now, that's why our dear jellybelly is being build as AP
> [{quoted}](name=DeCoqq,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-24T08:29:44.627+0000) > > Every tank champ is a joke, has been over a year now, that's why our dear jellybelly is being build as AP I agree. It's a disaster. Unfortunately, this counts for junglers the most, making them play assassins, mages (only a few mages though) and champions that don't even fit in the jungle like Ezreal, Karthus, Twitch and so on. This is a problem in my opinion, and needs to be looked at. ~~*bark*~~ they better start with gragas ~~*bark*~~
: Horrible demand - make everyone else as bad as him and maybe then the game would be enjoyable. What, do you want another 5% on his W damage at all ranks? Do you want his Q get insta-charged at rank 5? For years and years people's solution to champs being unpopular has been "buff him" and now we wonder why Zed overkills anyone without his ult's damage portion. In my particular elo, Yi is extremely popular. I don't want Rammus buffed. I don't want thornmail buffed. I want Yi nerfed. To the ground. Along with every other lifesteal & on-hit abuser. While you're at it, nerf runes too. 90+ extra damage from one Renekton W early on in the game, the W damage itself not being counted. A full AD rune page wouldn't allow you to do that.
> [{quoted}](name=PhD in Nasus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-23T23:35:50.186+0000) > > Horrible demand - make everyone else as bad as him and maybe then the game would be enjoyable. What, do you want another 5% on his W damage at all ranks? Do you want his Q get insta-charged at rank 5? > > For years and years people's solution to champs being unpopular has been "buff him" and now we wonder why Zed overkills anyone without his ult's damage portion. > > In my particular elo, Yi is extremely popular. I don't want Rammus buffed. I don't want thornmail buffed. I want Yi nerfed. To the ground. Along with every other lifesteal & on-hit abuser. While you're at it, nerf runes too. 90+ extra damage from one Renekton W early on in the game, the W damage itself not being counted. A full AD rune page wouldn't allow you to do that. Your particular elo is Silver 3. I get that Yi is extremely popular, and I'm not saying that you're a bad player if you're in silver, but the solution to balancing Master Yi is not to nerf him to the grounds. What would be _handy_ in your situation is if League had its own balancing team for each elo, which of course makes literally no sense and is impossible. He is _strong_ because you sometimes fail to counter him, which puts him in the Godlike spot where he has the potential to kill you all. Why do you think he has a balanced winrate after all? He can't _pop off_ every single game, and he is extremely squishy, which offers him a lot of damage. Every champion has its strengths and its weaknesses, and Master Yi is generally a solocarry champion by nature, and if you take away that, you take away Yi.
SpiritGuy (EUW)
: Except for that he is no longer tanky. If he ever is in a state where he can OS someone, I bet you he is building full AP. "A tankish champion who is still able to os champions" is therefore false, however he does has a lot of base damage similar to other tanks like Poppy, Galio, Tahm Kench, but he is lacking the sustain that all of them have.
> [{quoted}](name=SpiritGuy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-04-24T18:50:39.479+0000) > > Except for that he is no longer tanky. If he ever is in a state where he can OS someone, I bet you he is building full AP. "A tankish champion who is still able to os champions" is therefore false, however he does has a lot of base damage similar to other tanks like Poppy, Galio, Tahm Kench, but he is lacking the sustain that all of them have. He is a solid pick, but I am just arguing that I think he deserves to be a tank again.
: Gragas is still a solid pick and can do some crazy, suprisingly, damage. Riot made it harder for Gragas to os someone (again) as it's not really fun to play against a tankish champion who is still able to os champions
Except for that he is no longer tanky. If he ever is in a state where he can OS someone, I bet you he is building full AP. "A tankish champion who is still able to os champions" is therefore false, however he does has a lot of base damage similar to other tanks like Poppy, Galio, Tahm Kench, but he is lacking the sustain that all of them have.
: > [{quoted}](name=SpiritGuy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-23T17:35:39.207+0000) > > I really don't mind you asking, and I'd love to express myself. Of course, but the tier list indicates how _strong_ the champion is, and not what their winrate is, and the fact that Gragas currently is at the 36/37 spot at OP.GG makes him the second weakest jungler currently, and he's had such a weak spot for way too long in my opinion. It's not that I avoid playing him, because I do play him often, but I just generally feel like he's not strong enough. He is easily being countered by most junglers, and he doesn't have much of a jungle clear compared to others. His early game isn't too impressive, and I feel the same way for midgame and lategame, but that is my own opinion. Also, his "recent" changes made him an AP mage/assassin allthough his entire kit is built as a tank. Playing Gragas as a tank is nearly impossible these days, but then again - my opinion. > > I'm not saying that he is a bad champion at this point, I'm just tired of seeing the same champions at the bottom of the tier lists over and over again, and I wish that Riot Games would make some changes so that more champions would be viable and playable. Examples of champions that are in the bottom of the tier lists are basically jokes at league of legends right now, like Volibear jungle, Maokai, Quinn or Singed top or even Kalista ADC. I feel bad for the people that quit playing league because their favorite champion was too weak, and I'd love to see some changes in that category. I see. I don't play him at all, but I also wouldn't mind seeing him sometimes again. That being said, I also hope he'll never be in meta like last year (?) when he was in literally every game and one shot anyone @6 while still building tanky. I guess that is what makes him hard to balance. If Rito buffed his clearing and shifted some burst dmg to better sustain so he can jungle better I wouldn't mind at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Taliyah Supp,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T07:59:05.755+0000) > > I see. I don't play him at all, but I also wouldn't mind seeing him sometimes again. That being said, I also hope he'll never be in meta like last year (?) when he was in literally every game and one shot anyone @6 while still building tanky. I guess that is what makes him hard to balance. If Rito buffed his clearing and shifted some burst dmg to better sustain so he can jungle better I wouldn't mind at all. I agree. He deserves a better spot, and hopefully tankier.
: afaik gragas is still picked in high elo, so it would seems it's viable don't you think?
Look at the comment above and you can read my thoughts on that.
: If you don't mind me asking, what is this tier list? And what stops you from playing him? You can still play off-meta champs, even if his dmg was nerfed by 20 at some point.
> [{quoted}](name=Taliyah Supp,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=B3BTLey6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-23T14:41:41.317+0000) > > If you don't mind me asking, what is this tier list? And what stops you from playing him? You can still play off-meta champs, even if his dmg was nerfed by 20 at some point. I really don't mind you asking, and I'd love to express myself. Of course, but the tier list indicates how _strong_ the champion is, and not what their winrate is, and the fact that Gragas currently is at the 36/37 spot at OP.GG makes him the second weakest jungler currently, and he's had such a weak spot for way too long in my opinion. It's not that I avoid playing him, because I do play him often, but I just generally feel like he's not strong enough. He is easily being countered by most junglers, and he doesn't have much of a jungle clear compared to others. His early game isn't too impressive, and I feel the same way for midgame and lategame, but that is my own opinion. Also, his "recent" changes made him an AP mage/assassin allthough his entire kit is built as a tank. Playing Gragas as a tank is nearly impossible these days, but then again - my opinion. I'm not saying that he is a bad champion at this point, I'm just tired of seeing the same champions at the bottom of the tier lists over and over again, and I wish that Riot Games would make some changes so that more champions would be viable and playable. Examples of champions that are in the bottom of the tier lists are basically jokes at league of legends right now, like Volibear jungle, Maokai, Quinn or Singed top or even Kalista ADC. I feel bad for the people that quit playing league because their favorite champion was too weak, and I'd love to see some changes in that category.
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marques96 (EUW)
: need some keys
I would love to, we can play One for All after my game is finished, if u want to. IGN: SpiritGuyHD (ofc)
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sWimK (EUNE)
: 1v1
*Wrong Server* RIP {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
: AP vs AD
Maybe it is meta, but I totally agree! Mages should be buffed! And the worst thing is that Riot is nerfing Cassiopeia hard.. She can't spam E.. :'(
: When People On My Team Get Pentas
cant agree more..{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
Paw3lLOL (EUW)
: WTF happened with lol
: Silver 5 mid/jungle LF duo q/team
i can add you now, if we can play a game right now. i main mid
Endellion (EUW)
: But, but, but...if flash is removed what would I put on F?????
> [{quoted}](name=Endellion,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=A4H6AamR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-16T18:09:27.726+0000) > > But, but, but...if flash is removed what would I put on F????? Probably.... hmmmm...... i have no fuckinggg idea.. there is only one spell on F.. (f)uck.. :D
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Red Yåsuo (EUNE)
: did the avrage skill level of every divison increase in the new season and will it drop again?
I Guess everything will og back to normal when elo gets better.. I somehow got into B4 by winning 8/10, and my friend won 9/10 and got into B5... I think Riot did something wrong :P
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: Getting your main role
> [{quoted}](name=OnlyEndless,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=bxPEEWiE,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-02-16T17:49:43.385+0000) > > So playing through this new champ select I've realised how rare it is too actually get your main role, well for me anyway. I main jungle and secondary top but about 1 in 10 games I will actually get jungle, I understand that everyone should learn more than one role and I can play top fine but I cant really carry as much in top lane, then again im not really a great player anyway. To be honest I believe the system needs to make it more even so you get your main role more often A long shot though aye. > > Does anyone else have this issue? Of course we do. Take me as an example. I used to main mid, now im learning all kinds of roles, i jumped from mid to supports, like {{champion:432}} , {{champion:26}} , so if u mained squishy champions, do the same as me! learn the same roles in different lanes. I also find it weird With the Dynamic Queve, but my friend has a very good advice that he learned me. He LOVES Vladimir, so he has first top, and secoundary mid, then he can play vlad every game! i hope u find this useful. Please leave me any question if u want to.{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
SpiritGuy (EUW)
: Top 5 most overpowered champions (UPDATED)
Forgot the Fifth.. LOL 5. Jax - too overpowered as a hybrid.. RITO PLS NERF GUINSOOS RAGEBLADE!!{{item:3124}}
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: Do you have lulu? Toxic player or friendly?
I am very friendly! i am against all kind of troll and flame. I do have lulu, and in fact, i have all champs :D btw, im searching for a partner that can skype while playing. please reply as soon as possilble. -SpiritGuy{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
SpiritGuy (EUW)
: Searching a duopartner
Write below why you should be the duopartner. Do you have a main-lane?
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