: http://i.imgur.com/zAe9Ieq.png Premades with a red arrow. You can discuss for hours, this is NOT a competitive game. The skill gap between players is just bad as hell...
What the actual fuck is that ELO difference LOL {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: http://prntscr.com/bbwftl Plat V Yasuo vs a Gold V Azir. Thats an entire tier above. There is a skill difference between low Gold and Gold 2/1.. Not much, you probably wont notice it, but there is one.
http://prntscr.com/bbwgo1 As you can see, 2 Plat Vs on my team, 2 Gold 4s on their team. Huge skill difference. http://prntscr.com/bbwh9n Plat 4 and Plat 5 on their team. Gold 4 (me) and Gold 3s. You obviously havent been watching my "stat" closely {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Phenova (EUW)
: and i watch quite a bit your stat and last time you faced a plat guy, it was an ezreal and his mmr was around the same as yours. cf http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Star%20Whores So basically the system is fine and balance if every one is fair and honest about their own individual skill. But there is always people trying to get boost, and Riot try to find solution to this, but be honest and fair, it's hard.
http://prntscr.com/bbwftl Plat V Yasuo vs a Gold V Azir. Thats an entire tier above. There is a skill difference between low Gold and Gold 2/1.. Not much, you probably wont notice it, but there is one.
Phenova (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Star Whores,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=E5FwuEaU,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-03T07:45:05.090+0000) > > Okay, so back in Season 4 and downwards, hell even season 5 kind've, people were placed against/with people that were the same division or above. Back in season 3 I used to lolnexus the sh** out of every game, lets say I was Gold 5, 90% of the people in my game were Gold 5, too, with the exception of a Gold 4 maybe. You felt like you were playing at your skill level. > > Here's the problem now: > > Most of the time I'm scared to lolnexus my games because I'm scared of what I'd find. I mean dynamic queue is obviously the culprit. The other day their team had a Gold 1 ADC and ours was Silver 3? Silver 3 on his series to Silver 2. Obviously he was queueing with somebody, but no way a Silver 2 can stand a chance against somebody who's 1 division below Platinum. Obviously, our bot got stomped and we lost, whoopdeedoo, no biggie.. But every game now I'm seeing Silver 2's, Gold 1's (I'm Gold 4 currently). But it'll range from Gold 5>1's with some silvers. Like what? > > I guess I miss the days of being Plat 4 and lolnexus'ing the match to see I'm playing with some Plat 2's and being hella excited because I thought my MMR was improving and I was getting better. > > > > TL;DR, ranked matches are a mess, matched against Gold 1's, 2s, Plat Vs as a Gold 4... seems unbalanced. About Plat V being match with low GOld there is reasons that can explain this situation: - Low mmr from the Guy in Plat V, he sould soon go back to gold - High mmr for the guy in Gold 4, his place doesn't belong here - Premade with a guy with a low mmr, but in this case there is a high mmr in the opposite team. Are those issue directly from DQ? No, it's about mmr. IMO most of the people complaining about DQ are mistaken issue about mmr that before DQ they call this EloHEll (hello old friend seems you have renamed yourself).
Actually one of the guys admitted he was DQing with a Gold 4 friend, he was Plat V, thus we were against him. He admitted he was boosting him, so eh. Idk
Hecate (EUW)
: Remember a game when I was Silver 1 with a Bronze 2 guy in my team. Now, and after several ranked games later, I got demoted from Gold 4 (hitting the promo for G3, myself) to Silver 4, yup, one division lower. How great. Same in Gold, I used to play vs Plat premade when we didn't have any premade in our team or when we were only Gold 3-Gold 5. Now I'm match made with Bronze guys who don't know the basics of the game. No rotation, no build adaptation, more focus on kills than objectives. Look, yesterday I was with a Bronze 3 guy as our ADC, he had like 90 CS at 20 min. And I was also matchmade as Ahri an Annie who had 70 CS AT 20 MIN!!!! The same CS as my jungler... She never got ganked by my jungler, she never roamed. Yet, she won cause my team focused on kills and chasing and farming... "Lol". Here you go struggling through hell. But I guess it won't change sooner or later.
Im sorry to hear that. Hopefully it will change, we are all struggling through ranked atm. Its annoying, but hopefully Riot will sort something out sooner rather than later. Even pros are quitting ranked because a full Challenger team can be matched with Diamond 3s and 1s.. LOL
: Right now I am silver 5. 7/10 games I get matched with gold players and sometimes even Platinum players. I even had to play against players who were diamond last season. The worst part is (like you said) when there are silver and bronze players on my team, but gold players on the enemy team. Why...I just wanna have fun by playing against players at my skill level, and don't wanna get stomped, until I cry my eyes out (literally). I just hate it. Please send help :D A little Side note: These are all normal games. The only reason I played ranked was because of this: I had to play against a Platin Irelia main (I think that explains it all). After being stomped to death I decided to play Ranked to get to low division silver, so I won't have to play against gold and platin players again. I got to silver 5, but nothing changed. So most of my normals are just not fun anymore. PS: Fuck Premades. Just fuck them. The Premades on the enemy are gods. The premades on my team are potatoes.
Thats awful. The fact that you can play against somebody thats 2 leagues above your skill level in a RANKED competitive environment is alarming. Needs to be sorted out ASAP
LA Losty (EUW)
: https://gyazo.com/958e013b1c5b2443ed32894b5469afd3 This is a game on my smurf. The enemy team had a guy in platinum 5 promo, and i believe he was high platinum last season (platinum 2 iirc) and he is playing with a silver 3 in ranked, a guy who was unranked last season. Why on earth isnt lower elos restricted too? How does this seem balanced? :/
That is absolutely disgusting. A platinum vs a Silver 3. Jesus christ! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
candoodle (EUW)
: have you seen the real ones? their "new data"? and "secret sauce"? that somehow made solo queue "impossible" all of a sudden?? i believe them when they say that games are less toxic but thats mostly due to role selection, which has now gone out the window at the highest elo and i also believe that for the 4 players that are part of a premade the games are less toxic but for the 1 solo queue player on that team he about to have a bad time. You want my statistics and evidence? it's all empirical never trust a statistic you didnt make up yourself
> [{quoted}](name=candoodle,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=E5FwuEaU,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-03T12:48:42.600+0000) > > have you seen the real ones? their "new data"? and "secret sauce"? that somehow made solo queue "impossible" all of a sudden?? > > i believe them when they say that games are less toxic but thats mostly due to role selection, which has now gone out the window at the highest elo > > and i also believe that for the 4 players that are part of a premade the games are less toxic but for the 1 solo queue player on that team he about to have a bad time. You want my statistics and evidence? it's all empirical > > never trust a statistic you didnt make up yourself Completely agree
bulz7 (EUNE)
: I am currently doing my 10 placements matches and i'm getting matched with silver and gold, like wtf these are placements tests, shouldn't we all be unranked?
Happens all the time! It sucks, should be unranked vs unranked.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: I had a quick look tat your match history and while there are few times when matchmaking fucks a bit, where are rather bigg differences, but most of the time player rankings are pretty similar.
It shouldnt be most of the time. Im occasionally playing against Platinum Vs. So there could be a Plat V midlaner against a Gold V midlaner, who has the highest % of winning? Idk, I still think theres a different in Gold 5/4 > Gold 2/1, but thats just me :)
Barty (EUNE)
: More and more of these threads appearing. Hopefully it will change something - I don't really believe this trend remains unnoticed.
I hope so! Ranked is a complete mess atm, there is no way Riot can ignore it
: I have to play Ranked games as my normals now. I'm the only Silver on my team, ever, in normal matches and I'll be lucky to see a Gold. It's not fun, I don't feel like "learning to improve" whilst I'm going 0/3/0 to a Fiora top in 5 mins, I just want to play with people of my skill level. Apparently I can't have that in normals now, so Ranked it is and I just have to weather the storm of "first time X champ wtf?" or "why not play srsly?" Riot. Fix matchmaking. It sucks for both ends of this problem here.
Totally agree! Im sorry you are suffering from that issue. Frigging sucks!
Silisa (EUNE)
: You are preaching to the choir.
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