: >A: - i think the iron/bronze/silver/ player-base would welcome the level change. too many player that get level 30 are deff. not ready to play rank. that´s just my opinion. Except Iron and Bronze is literally the elo for new or unskilled players. So this is just segretating people from playing with their skill level, when the actual innards of the game itself don't change. Again, you just get placed with people of equal skill, and scored in ranked. That's the only difference. >player with honor level 0 - 1 do mostly negatively impact the outcome of a game. flaming/ping spamming / soft inting / passiv trolling / afk Except you're immediately discounting the ability to reform. Most people actually don't re-offend after their first restriction, if we go off the stats Riot released a while back. Further punishing at this point just makes reform harder and less likely. Whilst I can see how you're piecing together your logic, you're not looking at the bigger picture. >Maybe for the first months there would be more "toxic" players in normal games . but over time less and less those kind of players. The most " toxic" player get angry/mad/salty cuz it´s rank. i don´t think they would show the same level of toxicity in normals then in rank games I mean, I would be open to looking into this as a possibility, if a similar trial was not already run with restricting ranked play, and provided hard data and results similar to what I had explained. I take data over theories.
>Except Iron and Bronze is literally the elo for new or unskilled players. So this is just segretating people from playing with their skill level, when the actual innards of the game itself don't change. Again, you just get placed with people of equal skill, and scored in ranked. That's the only difference. - by that logic one should play rank asap one got enough champs for rank. >Except you're immediately discounting the ability to reform. Most people actually don't re-offend after their first restriction, if we go off the stats Riot released a while back. Further punishing at this point just makes reform harder and less likely. - i don´t think ppl with constant chat banns and /or time bann gonna reform that fast >Whilst I can see how you're piecing together your logic, you're not looking at the bigger picture. i think you you don´t look at the bigger picture. >I mean, I would be open to looking into this as a possibility, if a similar trial was not already run with restricting ranked play, and provided hard data and results similar to what I had explained. How about a test on a way bigger server ?
: May I ask why? The gate keeping for ranked previously was longer than level 40 would be now, and was pretty much agreed upon by everyone that it was tedious, time consuming, and pointless. The extra levels that far in are not going to change too much when you're relatively new, nor does it change the outcomes of the player that person will be playing against. Honor level restricting it is just going to push issues into normals and ARAM's, this was trialled previously with "ranked bans", on OCE quite a while back (was actually playing on the server when it was trialled), and it resulted in pretty much this.
A: - i think the iron/bronze/silver/ player-base would welcome the level change. too many player that get level 30 are deff. not ready to play rank. that´s just my opinion. B: - player with honor level 0 - 1 do mostly negatively impact the outcome of a game. flaming/ping spamming / soft inting / passiv trolling / afk (Yes one can mute them , but the "dmg" is already done) ( and no you cannot " mute " some1 who is passiv trolling , it won´t change anything he keeps trolling ) those player shouldn´t be alllowed to play rank. Yes most of them had a time bann but to show they truely reformed , they should get level 2 honor. Maybe for the first months there would be more "toxic" players in normal games . but over time less and less those kind of players. The most " toxic" player get angry/mad/salty cuz it´s rank. i don´t think they would show the same level of toxicity in normals then in rank games It just takes alot of effort to get the honor level back. i assume one wants to keep that level. if they reform, ---> rank games quality gonna improve by a lot. If they dont, ----> they should get banned way faster. that´s it. {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
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how, pls tell me how did you grind your honor level xd what did you do ? what did you not do
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