Saibbo (EUW)
: Swain feels squishy and weak {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=Mark Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dQeP6F2J,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-02-09T20:52:39.644+0000) > > Swain feels squishy and weak > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Did you plah him before? Just because he has burst doesn't mean he is strong
: they hated how he played like a tank and just press'd r and flashed in.they changed his whole play style as well.now you have to actually kite and do your combo right, you can't just spam abilities with him anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=Van Dam Bam,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dQeP6F2J,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-09T21:10:56.259+0000) > > they hated how he played like a tank and just press'd r and flashed in.they changed his whole play style as well.now you have to actually kite and do your combo right, you can't just spam abilities with him anymore. To be honest i don't agree with just flashing in and pressing r. Yes you have to engage but unless you root 2-3 people with you it was useless. You couldn't nuke anyone like that so you had to root and damage multiple with w and r. That way you could be usefull. With other mages yeah you can't get in but i believe any other mage could out damage him really really fast . Swains total damage was dealt in 4 seconds. But think about viktor having a long ultimate time but he could literally 1 shot you. Syndra also , and if you think about anivia q -e would kill you . Think about other examples like veigar and annie. Annie is still flash -and r but noone is touching her and she is pretty bulky with roa and her e skill. My point is you had to go extra mile to play him . There are champions like that in the game like ashe sivir aurelion sol . This list can go on and on. My point is he wasn't that simple Also don't forget that he had no farm ability . You had to farm with basic attacks against pusher mid lanes. Gl with that
: Old swain had an R that was just a press of the button that gave him buffs, he had a point and click root, a crow that was point and click and a literally point and click ability. So What did old swain have? He had a point and click root and tons of lifesteal which made him tanky. New swain has Point and click dmg ability, A root which he can use to draw a champion to him, a Vision skill which also gives him a slow and if hit an ult stack and his ult is A strong lifesteal AoE in the right conditions Tbh I don't see that much of a difference. Maybe you are one of these old fanboys who can't stand "their" champ getting reworked but old swain was ugly. I mean his actual VG. New swain is imo more fun and isn't just pressing R and hoping I was tanky enough to survive with enough lifesteal. The only thing I feel that should have stayed was his Crow ( Beatrice?) I liked that aspect more of one noble crow in place of multiple but some things are bound to change
> [{quoted}](name=Salty Princess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dQeP6F2J,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-09T21:00:12.219+0000) > > Old swain had an R that was just a press of the button that gave him buffs, he had a point and click root, a crow that was point and click and a literally point and click ability. So What did old swain have? He had a point and click root and tons of lifesteal which made him tanky. > > New swain has Point and click dmg ability, A root which he can use to draw a champion to him, a Vision skill which also gives him a slow and if hit an ult stack and his ult is A strong lifesteal AoE in the right conditions > > Tbh I don't see that much of a difference. Maybe you are one of these old fanboys who can't stand "their" champ getting reworked but old swain was ugly. I mean his actual VG. New swain is imo more fun and isn't just pressing R and hoping I was tanky enough to survive with enough lifesteal. > > The only thing I feel that should have stayed was his Crow ( Beatrice?) I liked that aspect more of one noble crow in place of multiple but some things are bound to change He wasn't op with that kit . If he was that op why noone used to play him back then? He was strong if you knew how to play him. Back then when you could kill anyone with single victor e or 1 r syndra.. You're far away from making any point..And you didn't even play him last 3 season how come you can have an idea?
Afelers (EUNE)
: how is a champion with core RoA squishy D:
> [{quoted}](name=Afelers,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dQeP6F2J,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-09T20:19:09.607+0000) > > how is a champion with core RoA squishy D: Yeah i don't understand that either but he doesn't feel bulkier as before
radetari (EUNE)
: he feels perfect
> [{quoted}](name=IvanBrony,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dQeP6F2J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-09T20:17:16.806+0000) > > he feels perfect Don't get me wrong but shouldn't you know about his old play style before commenting something like that?
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Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QHihQJXJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-07T20:25:00.033+0000) > > 4 men premades are disabled in flex. It wasnt at first at dynamic queue. Punishing solo players are ranked.
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Doomley (EUW)
: Or you can use the combo correctly. q ->w. The slow from q makes it almost impossible to miss the w if the enemy doesn't have a dash or it is on cd (which is a perfect time to strike but people don't use good opportunities well).
> [{quoted}](name=Doomley,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZH8UQ4zH,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-09T20:41:27.619+0000) > > Or you can use the combo correctly. q ->w. The slow from q makes it almost impossible to miss the w if the enemy doesn't have a dash or it is on cd (which is a perfect time to strike but people don't use good opportunities well). Yeah it definietly works at plat 5 but i was playing him at dia 3-4. Maybe someone who has over 500 games with him can judge better than you?
blissbomb (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=blissbomb,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZH8UQ4zH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-09T19:34:53.557+0000) > > he was the most meta champion for a couple patches. they gave him 1 nerf (+10 sec ult cd) now he's not meta. > I don't get that but eh Well that destroys his trade in lane.. Without maining a champion i can easily defeat swain now. You dont have to kill him but you can easily outfarm him easier now , because he have to w8 back if you bait his ultimate which is quite easy
Doomley (EUW)
: >Q wont do any significant damage As swain main you should know that his q does most damage from all of his abilities.
> [{quoted}](name=Doomley,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZH8UQ4zH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-10-09T20:21:32.313+0000) > > As swain main you should know that his q does most damage from all of his abilities. Read it all" W takes too much time to land yet holds for 1 second at early.. Q wont do any significant damage " Well if your opponent is dumb enough to stay inside for 4 seconds yeah.. Well you can do it if you are playing in bronze elo
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moonborn (EUW)
: i've been accused once of scripting as {{champion:16}} . because i put an E at perfect time when someone was teleporting on ward, so they got rooted. and well just general healing stuff, then flashing away when i get focused and later running back to heal allies and finishing everyone off. so enemy team started flaming me, calling me a scripter and saying they have video proof.. well i don't even use quick cast.. and i just after that time found out the meaning of scripting. on the other hand it got me thinking, is it possible to get banned just because someone "thinks" you are scripting and maybe just "moving suspiciously" or maybe you have luck suddenly hitting/avoiding all your skillshots? in diamond i see very often people perfectly dodging skill shots, but does that mean they are really scripting.. you can't really tell.
> [{quoted}](name=GenericReality,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=3rzPBcYn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-07-30T06:04:41.639+0000) > > i've been accused once of scripting as {{champion:16}} . because i put an E at perfect time when someone was teleporting on ward, so they got rooted. and well just general healing stuff, then flashing away when i get focused and later running back to heal allies and finishing everyone off. > so enemy team started flaming me, calling me a scripter and saying they have video proof.. > well i don't even use quick cast.. and i just after that time found out the meaning of scripting. > > on the other hand it got me thinking, is it possible to get banned just because someone "thinks" you are scripting and maybe just "moving suspiciously" or maybe you have luck suddenly hitting/avoiding all your skillshots? > in diamond i see very often people perfectly dodging skill shots, but does that mean they are really scripting.. you can't really tell. There are people who dodge perfectly but every single skillshot in the game? Not me not lee and not karma was able to land a skillshot :(
: Hello! Are you sure they were in fact scripting? If so and you have decent proof, Riot should've banned them by now. As long as you reported them or sent a ticket of course. In my fairly long career as a Summoner, I haven't met any (obvious) scripters yet. What elo/division are you? Do you only encounter them in normals or in rankeds aswell? Would you be so kind to record them and send it to me / Riot next time? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Kind regards and good luck on the rift! Nobel
> [{quoted}](name=Nobelus The III,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=3rzPBcYn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-29T23:13:11.291+0000) > > Hello! > > Are you sure they were in fact scripting? > If so and you have decent proof, Riot should've banned them by now. > As long as you reported them or sent a ticket of course. > In my fairly long career as a Summoner, I haven't met any > (obvious) scripters yet. What elo/division are you? > Do you only encounter them in normals or in rankeds aswell? > > Would you be so kind to record them and send it to me / Riot next time? > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} > > Kind regards and good luck on the rift! > Nobel I've been playing since season 1 (normals) and gold since season 2 , diamond since season 4 , This season i started to play ranked at beginning of july so i'm kinda rusty, currently i'm at plat 5 . I had maybe more than thousand game at mid lane , i've played against few master tier players (2 -3 ) . I mean , i dont think i'm that bad at skillshots that i couldnt even land one. If i'm not wrong back in the other seasons i remember only 1 incident which was an ahri, but now they seem to be too much?, Also sometimes i play in TR server and you can see a scripter almost in every game. Especially adc players that plays like god in gold elo :) I'm only playing rankeds and yes i do report them
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Sylvatica (EUW)
: I think a pure Solo Queue would be a great
I'm also with you in this one. I dont want to see boosted bronze players in gold..
: Solo Queue Reasoning
I think i'll say what i've observed. I finish last season mid Dia 4. During my climb i've struggled mostly at Platinum 1-2. I was checking my team mates and opposing team from lolnexus all the time. Most of the time team with most diamond 5 loses". Anyway after 20-30 games i've managed to get to Diamond 5. It was almost end of the season but i kept playing seriously for a while because games were much more competitive than it was ever! I was having really hard time during lane phase but it was the fun part! Nobody was flaming. With dynamic q team variation is increased because of number of premades also increased. With solo q /duo q system , if you have a normal mmr (20-22 lp per win) the tier difference was 1 or 2 . For instance if you are plat 2 you get plat 1 and plat 3's and also some low mmr dia 5's.) I really dont think 4 man premades are always near same Mmr . If you get in as 2 plat 1 , 2 plat 5 average will be plat 3 right? Even if the game manages to find a match up like yours. What is the possiblity of them to match up in the lane? Plat 1 player will feed on plat 5 most of the time . Yes it's for both team but snowball is not really fun. There was snowball before too but it wasnt this obvious. Also there will be tons of boosted noobs in higher division crashing your game if they decide to go solo. Gold account with bronze skill. Have fun!
: Have you checked the NA Boards? Brace yourself...
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=0001000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-29T21:21:57.448+0000) > > Have you checked the NA Boards? > > Brace yourself... Well i didnt see anything important , am i misisng it? Can you provide me a link?
: But most people don't even like Ranked for it's toxic atmosphere. There's no arguing with that. I don't want to watch this shit. It's a prime example how everything a Rioter says is taken for granted. "Yeah, Riot Cosantoir isn't feeling too well right now, maybe he won't be for a longer time so i'll replace him right now. :)" Reaction:OMG IS COSANTOIR DYING? FFS RITO PLZ! Submit your gravestone creations below! > And lastly you said this is not helping, i wonder what Riot will think if there is no topic going around " Oh they love dynamic q ,f*ck solo q and cancel it. If you consider Riot still doesnt make any new announcements despite of the protest topics. I'm not saying these posts are wrong but they are too many. Riot already stated that they know many want this and they're working on it and they even said **they'd prefer to keep SoloQ** but considering how crappy the servers are i'm guessing that's the main issue they are working on.
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=00010002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-29T12:36:42.714+0000) > > But most people don't even like Ranked for it's toxic atmosphere. There's no arguing with that. > > I don't want to watch this shit. It's a prime example how everything a Rioter says is taken for granted. "Yeah, Riot Cosantoir isn't feeling too well right now, maybe he won't be for a longer time so i'll replace him right now. :)" > > Reaction:OMG IS COSANTOIR DYING? FFS RITO PLZ! Submit your gravestone creations below! > > I'm not saying these posts are wrong but they are too many. Riot already stated that they know many want this and they're working on it and they even said **they'd prefer to keep SoloQ** but considering how crappy the servers are i'm guessing that's the main issue they are working on. You're right there a too many but all of them are fading away from the "hot" section. I dont know how can a topic that gets 5-10 reply each day cant stand at top. Unless someone else makes a new topic it'll slowly fade away. This one currently is 12th topic 63 upvotes 64 comments. That's the main reason there is many topics i think
: > You can check online about how many accounts are distributed through league of legends. As if those websites have any proof those are smurfs and i'm pretty sure Riot would have a lot more accurate data than targeting smurfs and thinking they are separate players. DynamicQ won't change a thing. People keep whining over nothing.
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=000100020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-29T10:03:03.950+0000) > > As if those websites have any proof those are smurfs and i'm pretty sure Riot would have a lot more accurate data than targeting smurfs and thinking they are separate players. > > DynamicQ won't change a thing. People keep whining over nothing. I never told you about exact number of smurf accounts. I'm telling you there can be 70 million accounts that's been logged in every month idk. But how many of them play ranked? There is lot of websites which uses data from Riotgames to provide some statistics at their website. Most of them say around 7-8M and 1 website says 14M accounts in ranked. As i mentioned in one my posts even Pro players are disturbed from this change. I'll provide you some links https://twitter.com/Hai/status/687865696869457920 https://twitter.com/dKiWiKiD/status/687890003767234560 And also please take your time and watch : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahItzHevJxM He explains really well why we need Solo Q. I dont know if we are playing the game with same reason but check this out please. And lastly you said this is not helping, i wonder what Riot will think if there is no topic going around " Oh they love dynamic q ,f*ck solo q and cancel it. If you consider Riot still doesnt make any new announcements despite of the protest topics.
: You want to introduce Dymanic Groups? Okay. But why not also give us PURE soloQ while you're at it?
Dynamic queue just messed up the MMR distribution.. You can see silver skilled players in gold who got boosted by a friend group..
: ok, but to create a topic just to farm upvotes is rather sad xD
> [{quoted}](name=Bobloser3555,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=0001000300000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T20:29:09.308+0000) > > ok, but to create a topic just to farm upvotes is rather sad xD Farm upvotes? What are they good for? Do i get free rp or something i dont know?
: Are you serious? 70 million people and you think DynamicQ will make any considerable losses? Don't make me laugh.
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=0001000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T21:45:49.929+0000) > > Are you serious? 70 million people and you think DynamicQ will make any considerable losses? Don't make me laugh. Do you really think 70 million people plays this game?.. I have lot of friends who owns like 3-4 smurfs.. Even silvers get a smurf account these days. Pro players have accounts in top regions. Wildturtle alone has like 6-7 smurfs known. You can check online about how many accounts are distributed through league of legends. Some website says 14.5m some say 6-7m. Tell me if you find a trustable source of players playing ranked. Dont forget that these are number of accounts. I think this number goes down way much more.. Also just check what pro players say about this.. Ah for your info just today had a game where there was a plat 5 in the other team and a silver 1 in my team.. Cant you see it's too much just for sake of playing with your friends?
: They have already noticed, it's like you're all ignorant and blindsided to their posts and never read them if they involve some complex English. > "We'll be honest: there's definitely a world in which solo queue doesn't return, but we'd rather keep it on the table as we work through these issues before making a final decision." Translation:There is a possibility it won't return but we prefer to not scrap it as we work through the issues. Your spamming is doing NOTHING to help work with the issues. And the issues are not "Does the community want it?" because they know a lot of people do.
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=00010001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T16:28:29.859+0000) > > They have already noticed, it's like you're all ignorant and blindsided to their posts and never read them if they involve some complex English. > > Translation:There is a possibility it won't return but we prefer to not scrap it as we work through the issues. > > Your spamming is doing NOTHING to help work with the issues. > > And the issues are not "Does the community want it?" because they know a lot of people do. If there is enough people protesting their idea , they had to take action. But if we listen to you and wait like everyone did in the first 2 months , can you see any improvement , announcement toward launch? No! Why does it bother you so much that we fight for what we want?
HdtvSK (EUW)
: If you want ganks learn how to play
Try to play as a top laner in a 4 man premade team and ask for gank :) Jungler will be busy camping his/her lovely midlaner or bot lane. Even before in solo q there is players who have no idea how to approach a gank. I say dont expect much this season with the dynamic queue players
: Can there be a difference between SoloQ and dynamic queue?
The real difference will be quality of the game. If there will be solo q option , (1 player not 2) There will be less feeders Which means less snowball Which means less flamers Which means less quitters Only advantage of dynamic queue is choosing your role. Yeah if you want a diamond jungler with silver adc skills that's cool
: We want solo-queue back
I dont really understand why dynamic queue "PROS" bothered by this.. You can have a team full of premades if solo q players leave! And most of them spit hate on us. Please go play with your booster friends and have a sense of achievement with something you dont deserve
: SOLO Q with different ladder
I think some dynamic queue fans have arrived.. What is bothering you? Solo Q players want to play in a ranked system that doesnt have boosted players. With dynamic queue there will be always friend boosted players that will ruin your game when the person decides to play alone. Guess why? Because even playing with 2-3 gold friends as a silver player greatly reduces the **quantity of the game** . All of your trollings just bumps the topic. There is lot of games running with different ladders. AND lastly SOLO Q PLAYERS DOESNT WANT TO PLAY WITH BOOSTED NOOBS **It's ranked. You should be climbing if you're a good player , not if you have a high skilled friend..**
: It has already reached them, did you even read the last post they made? It's getting obnoxious and it's not helping anyone.
> [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-27T19:43:32.902+0000) > > It has already reached them, did you even read the last post they made? It's getting obnoxious and it's not helping anyone. Well this is our purpose . And we'll make our voice heard until some action is taken.
Zavion (EUW)
: I think there should just be one queue which is Solo only. And another which is 5's only. There should be no intermediate bollocks.
> [{quoted}](name=Zavion,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPRftdmJ,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-03-28T00:38:17.496+0000) > > I think there should just be one queue which is Solo only. And another which is 5's only. There should be no intermediate bollocks. You mean like Solo Q and ranked team? I totally agree with that too!
tolisk99 (EUNE)
: no different ladder pls... sometimes i want to play alone and sometimes with friends.. why i have to play on 2 different ladders? that's stupid... {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Well thank you for your opinion. But i think there will be player skill difference between soloq and dynamic q. If you can get rewards off each one i dont think it'll be a problem for you right? All we want is more competitive game.
: We want to be heard and we need to show that we are a decent amount of the player base that really wants to have a SoloQ mode!
Yes! Spread the word until it reaches to Riot{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: SOLO Q with different ladder
I just came up with an idea! If riot limits the dynamic queue for teams with ( 5 players , 3 players ,2 players) So eventually there will be a matchup. And on the other side , there will be solo q (1 player not 2) for players who want to enjoy the competitive part of the game more! What do you think
: Dynamic Queue ( EloBoost service ) Save the low elo players ! Please !
It's really hard to prevent elo boosting. But Riot made it easier for them. Well...{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
FilipB (EUW)
: Really need a good and profesional opinion.
My opinion in this problem is most of the time, as ADC your support tries to protect you from incoming threats. As a mid laner this is less compared to an adc. Also as proppa mentioned adc is more releated to basic attacks. I think with a mid laner you need to take some risks to have some control over the game.
: These discussions are becoming disgusting as you're only creating them to farm upvotes and people fall for it....fuck's sake.
Well there are people who wants to achieve something by theirself. Dynamic queue does not present your skill ever. Before , if you were in platinum 3 you would match mostly with plat 2-4 , Now it's all platinum maybe even more! So in top lane you can bash your lower elo opponent while your bot lane getting crashed because of the greater skill difference. If you want to play with friends go normal. Ranked is something different
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MaMaSiTo (EUW)
: Seems like a good idea. It will increase competitivity for sure!
Thank you for the reply!
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: Vayne needs rework
So anyone has positive/negative idea towards this?
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: Ryze has been nerfed.
Well he needs more nerf then.. Please play against or play with ryze before commenting
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