: I think your overreacting shes insanely fragile someone could actually sneeze in her direction and she would probably die as far as laning against her you just need to try and keep track of where she is so you can avoid the E and stick behind your minions to block Q harass and E. As far as insanely mobile goes unless she picks up mobility spells shes not that mobile since her ONLY mobility spell is her R technically but she always returns to exactly the same spot there is the move speed from casting her W or summoners but its not that bad.
zoe is like old nidalee you may miss many times but once you hit its all over. Plus being squishy is not an excuse to take 1200 hp while being behind as hell.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: And the evidence? Claiming you were told it doesn't mean it's correct. Some people manage to climb up again in a manner of a few weeks: How does that stand in contrast to your statement? That should be impossible, no?
Then system is broken. My friend had 10 chat ban and the. 25 chat ban. He dropped to honor 0. He was afraid to get banned so he worked hard on his attitude. He started to win more games by being positive and encouraging his team to try and yet he is still stuck with level 0. He got honor unlocked message after 1 week and can get chests (no key fragments though). He gets honored every day and there is no sign of toxicity in his behaviour and he still cant get even honor 1 . system obviously doesnt work.
xMisuto (EUW)
: Zoe can one combo/shot you...
Zoe with 100 farm at 30 and 0/7/0 taking 1100 hp from my adc who is 2 levels ahead and gets hit by eq. Thats not balanced in any way. This is when behind as hell.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=T4underbolt,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=m4LT1aE1,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-12-14T12:19:35.657+0000) > > Camille and xayah got adjusted. Camille is not even viable and xayah is decently strong but not broken You just hate her (and me) cuz you play yasuo im sure {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
I dont give a damn about yasuo. They can go and nerf him to the ground. Zoe is just dub champ for people with no hands. Brainless spam of eq untill one hits and gets you the win.
: Tenacity Rune Mr Boots Rek'sai with AD jgl item ... nuff said Could kill a Zoe that was 3 levels ahead of me, and she was full life, it's really just a matter of how tanky you are compared to her, and how much dmg you can do compared to her
And so can she kill you with 100 farm at 30 minutes and 0/7/0 with one rotation. Just because you can kill squishy mage who is ahead doesnt mean he is balanced. I was behind as hell as evelynn and yet i managed to kill syndra that was 4 levels ahead, by flanking her the way she didnt expect. Does it mean she is weak or balanced?no
: I love Zoe, i love playing her and playing against her. She is funny,colorfull and cute.When she kills me i dont get mad cuz i know i messed up. When is Boards gonna clam down with that Zoe-hate talk its been weeks just accept her on the Rift like every other new Op champ thath gets forgoten the moment a new one comes. (Remmember Xayah,Camille...etc.) _** LEAVE ZOE ALONE**_ {{sticker:sg-soraka}} Ps:At least she doest have a wall that blocks everything....and a dash with no cd....and i hate him... {{champion:157}}
Camille and xayah got adjusted. Camille is not even viable and xayah is decently strong but not broken
Potchikir (EUW)
: There are mana flow band and scorch nerfs on pbe that will make her weaker
Nerfs killing champions that needed it to bw viable and doing nothing at all to likes of panhteon
: How to fix orn
Nerf his cooldowns. He is blowing fire from his mouth every few secs.
: Man, the mission is active for everyone because Zoe is actually on free rotation. You may have missed it. So you can pick her to try and complete the mission.
didnt notice she is in free rotation. my bad. sorry.
Rioter Comments
: THE PATH IS LIT BOI! (funny league video)
Rioter Comments
l MrD l (EUW)
: why do people keep banning Zoe?
Yeah dude. Its so healthy to take almost full hp with eq auto at lvl 2. And is also healthy when she has 100 farm at 30 and is 0/7/0 and still can deal over 1k dmg with eq without even auto attack. This champ is just old nidalee all over again. You can miss everything but hit one time and you auto win.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Fake charts? Are you serious? I pulled those numbers directly from my account, not from any charts Riot provided!
LEARN TO READ. I WASNT TALKING ABOUT LVL GAINS FROM lvl 30 UP TILL NOW. I was talking about gains since last 44 games and they are lower than before with ip
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > Keep doing fake math. Feel free to redo the math yourself. Here's your [match history](http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=T4underbolt). Here's the information as to how [Influence Points](http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Influence_Points) is calculated. --- > Outside of people like you licking you know what of riots nobody will believe those fake stats. You don't have to agree with people providing you evidence suggesting your claims are wrong. However, you will have to follow the [Universal Rules](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/3eWpXbJi) if you wish to be allowed to post here on the boards. I suggest you read through them.
Average games are now 28 minutes. I was getting at least 80 - 90 IP per win and 60-65 per loss. Taking an average with 22 games won and 22 games lost it is including first win of the day 5040 IP. Still less than before and only if you are lucky with BE rng gains from level up capsules. the system is so great it is biased towards 810 BE per capsule. In 17 levels I got only 3 times 1260 BE shards. Rest were 810 and due to some bug or obvious Riots bullshit for first 4 levels after 30 I got around 500 BE average per capsule. Keep lying. Obvious now how riot chooses even their moderators .
: > [{quoted}](name=MirirPaladin,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rF1eE8Em,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-05T11:32:33.249+0000) > > the problem is that League is not the kind of game to give rewards after a level up. matches last too long and you need a lot of them to level. then there is the "we have adapted the cost of masteries into the new system" so they multiplied the cost for mastery six and seven by 6.5 which is bullshit. you don't get 6.5 times what you had in IP and the rewards aren't 6.5 times higher, when they multiplied the existing BE by 6.5 it was a one-shot reward to give players something. yes, if you look at the numbers you get "more" than you did with IP but it takes so long to do so it's pointless. The mastery level ups do cost the same. Before, it took you 500 BE to lvl up a mastery, right? 500 BE is at least 2 random champ shards IF YOU ARE LUCKY, which cost 1700 IP. That means you needed minimum 3400 IP to lvl up a mastery. Check your facts and stop complaining.
This is stupid way of counting. You could also get shards from hextech chests without spending a single IP. This BE change is a money grab nothing else.
: For a average player the new system gives more BE than the old one gave IP. I love the new system. And the charts are not fake, you can do the match yourself and you will see that it is 100% right.
I did the math and I included it in my post. I was taking in account old IP values (few patches before preseason ip gains were a bit higher than usual) and still I would get more IP and buy the champ I want already in the old system. Charts are fake for players who play more than just few games. And why should I be punished for playing a lot then?
Rismosch (EUW)
: Somewhere down the line your math went terribly wrong. You are level 47. That means you got 47-30=17 level ups. If you say you currently have 4312 BE, 950 BE at the start of this, meaning you got 3362 BE since the new system. If we divide that by 17 we get 3362 / 17 ≈ 198 BE. This is so incredibly, ridiculously and unbelievably low, that either you failed math super hard or that you are lying to us. I honestly think it's the latter one. Given that you get least 810 BE per level, you should've gotten around 810 \* 17 = 13770 BE, probably much much more than that, since the average BE gain per level is larger than this value. --- If you think I am the one with the wrong math, then consider this: After the BE/IP changes I spent everything on Mystery Champions, leaving me with basically 0 BE. Since then I managed to get enaugh BE to buy the Mystery Champion 3 more times, each costing 3950 BE. Somewhere during that time, I also purchased Mastery Level 7 for Rakan for 3900 BE. And at the moment I am sitting around 2639 BE. This means I managed to get around 3 \* 3950 + 3900 + 2639 = 18389 BE And mind you I am only, _only_ Level 43. #Explain me, how I with a lower level than you got more than 4 times the BE value that you got! I even have proof. Look at my purchase history: https://imgur.com/a/jnitd As for Rakan Mastery Level 7, you just have to take my word for it. But even if I would lie about Rakan I still would've made over 14k BE, nearly 4,5 times as much as yo uclaim.
I wish people could read on this boards then maybe some day they would notice how riot screws them with fake charts. I said that im level 47. True. I didnt say I needed 44 games from lvl 30 and got 3400 BE during this time. What I said was having 10500 BE buying 2 champs worth 4800 and then after 44 games having only 4300 BE.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > But mastery pages was free, now rune pages cost, Runes pages **always** cost. That hasn't changed. What has changed is that you're now able to edit runes in champion select, meaning you don't actually have to purchase new pages.
Those are not runes. Those are masteries disguised under name runes. Please stop blindly defending riot.
Atreju (EUW)
: Riot... Akali got a nurse skin. Soraka not. What the hell?
Rioter Comments
Rismosch (EUW)
: But the bug isn't gamebreaking. If you know about it, play around it; wait till your first minions die and you are safe. Or ban Cassiopeia. One the other hand, people already abused Cassios early damage, no matter if bug or not; so if you just play a bit more careful you should be fine. The bug isn't gamebreaking. And just because a Rioter abused it doesn't make it worse.
well it does. The same way riot balance team abused broken champs for years to climb and still are hard stuck diamond 5's. The result is every broken champ in the patch goes through so they can try and keep being diamonds or maybe get few more LP.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Okay, in my opinion the bug should be fixed. But why is it such a big deal that a Rioter abused that bug too?
Maybe because usually players get banned for abusing bugs and it is clear this guy wont. Plus rioters should be an example by default.
: That's the point. People never analyse a champion's kit, they all watch a video on Youtube showing Zoe oneshotting people on a compilation on enemies getting outplayed or failing something, but you see the damage and think "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn sooooon, fix this Riot!". I didn't want to show that Zoe is balanced, that's her kit with some considerations about cooldowns (I didn't even talk about the mana costs and such), and she is *not* that broken at all. She can be obnoxious of course, I know it, but there are other picks way more obnoxious than her. Not to mention (I forgot it on the original post), we all have a BAN TO USE, if you're scared, do it and use it.
Losing 3/4 hp as kassadin who has 15 % magic dmg reductio. From zoe that has only lost chapter is not healthy at all. My adc dying to zoe after recieving 1100 dmg with eq that is 0/6/0 and 100 cs at 25 minutes is not balanced.
: On a funny note - Justin Timberlake - Cry me a River On a real note - this is the 21st century LoL - you need to be mobile, you need to understand - anyone can demolish, CC is insane, fights last milliseconds. Welcome to the new world
Lol another guy abusing tanks and bruisers talking. At least the guy above was gold 5. Dude what are you even doing here? Keep those "cry" comments at least when you get out of bronze.
Perilum (EUW)
: Then stop to be so bad, that you get behind. If you're not competent enough to kite a tank or stay ahead as damage dealer, then you're the problem. Not the tanks. Also all "tanks" you listed here are bruisers, which can build tanks. They have full damage ability kits. So maybe work on your basic knowledge about champion roles as well. TL;DR: You're a baddy who doesn't understand what he does.
Hah. What did i expect from a guy who plays mostly "bruisers" and tanks. Defenitely not a non biased comment. You.cant kite a champ with all that cc and ms/mobility. Ms in case of ww (+fear) and voli (+slow), 2 gap closers and a slow in case of j4. The whole design of a champ being able to deal damage with tank item is unhealthy and bad. None champion should be able to build no offensive stats and still deal dmg. Oh and dont tell me about being bad. In the same amount of games you barely got gold 5. Im plat 4.
: Hextech Repair Tool erased whole E: Drive (1 TB of files)
Lol. Riot. Your client is so sht that it surprizes me with such bullsht situations even after all these years.
Rioter Comments
: Oneshot by zoe (not complete rant)
Wow your enemy zoe actually had items. We trashed enemy zoe 0/6. At 25 minutes she had only 100 cs and 0 assists. Suddenly when we were sieging after a little fight our mf dies. Zoe threw e through the wall and q. 1100 damage. That was mf hp after fight. Zoe that did t even have cs at 25 minutes game having only morello deals 1100 damage with qe. Very healthy riot.
Eveninn (EUW)
: I'm just waiting till people respect her E as much as they should,and suddenly she's a lot weaker. <.<
Skillshot that is travelling so fast that its impossible to dodge from close distance and she can also throw it miles away through the wall out of fog of war. I played Kassadin that has god damn 15% magic damage reduction and she oneshoted me at level 5. EQ and of course gunblade that she picked from a minion and 1 tick of ignite. Additionally E hitbox is so broken, especially when it lands on the ground. I walk away from it and somehow i suddenly see meteor from zoe and get into sleep. Plus who the hell thought to give her true damage. Did I also mention that I made sure to screw enemy zoe lane as jungler and she was 0/6 with no assists at 26 minutes into the game and also only 100 cs and yet she was able to deal 1100 dmg to our mf and kill her (not oneshot becasue mf was at 1100 hp out of 1700). So the champion who had literally nothing while people are lvls ahead and have items still can deal all that damage. Sorry but this is stupid. Nerf her instead of buffing. And I wont even start on the fact she can flash 3 times in a row or just spam different actives and summoners in teamfights. or those god damn summoners from creeps. So much fun to get triple ignited from zoe, her W and enemy shaco with smite ignite. Ignites alone take more than half of my hp already. Or TP from creeps. You literally asking people to dodge her E while it is as fast if not faster than Urgot ult and can have even more range and we all know urgot ult is basically undodgable. You can barely tell when it get fired off.
Saibbo (EUW)
: > and back 575xp for first day win? It was a change wanted by the community itself, tell it to the people that opened all the threads whining 1/2 days after the update was up lmao. >Can u make normal prices for skins disenchant Enjoy what it's free, 1 skin from 2 it's still better than nothing, they weren't obligated to implement them anyway
People wanted to get BE every game. When Riot said they will add some BE, everyone thought they will just add BE. Instead they ripped us off once again and made it even less worth. And again riot apologists going with that useless argument "its free so dont complain". Lets start with the fact you usually need 5 skins to disenchant to be able to unlock another skin (you want 1350 RP skin? Get 5 shards of 1350RP skins first). They werent obligated but they did and it was still something around 5 skins per year at best. Do you think they lost money giving free stuff? No. Hextech chests are a gamble. They know how it works. The momeny you know you get something valuable you feel like to buy those chests and keys and not wait for another free one. This is 100% sure that they earned 10 times more from hextech crafting than they actually lost giving those free skins. And now they are taking it away. It is Riot's tactic. Make something good to hook people up and then suddenly screw it up to the point everyone hate it. After a while of getting money they improve it a bit, so riot defenders (read players like you who praise riot for everything blindly following their every move) are like "OMG RIOT GODS IMPROVED SYSTEM, SEE, SEE. BE THANKFUL FOR THEM DOING THAT (EVEN THOUGH ITS MUCH WORSE THAN BEFORE)". In addition they intentionally added emotes etc. to make sure the chance of getting champion skin shard is lower. Also they lied about saying "you will get more skin shards now and we will implement OE into missions and events, so the loss of OE will be compensated". None of this is true. Im getting less and less skin shards. From hextech chest in last 2 months only ward skin rest were 450 BE champion shards. From honor capsule 2, 450 champ shards and 5 key fragments (when before I was getting legit skins from that capsule). 5 key fragments. How nice. Im going to open hextech chests that will give me another useless 450 BE champ shard. Right now for me and many other people hextech crafting could just not exists, its so not worth it. For comparasion, HotS that doesnt even create half of income for Blizzard has also per level chests (levels are connected with mastering champions. each mastery level - infinite mastery lvls, require some amount of exp. after getting champion mastery level you get account level and chest that you can open right away without any keys). In those chests you get everything. Champions, champions skins, but also a lot of cosmetics like emotes, banners, sprays, voice packs, announcer packs. Also there are also milestone levels chests that guarantee legendary content. You can get legendary content even with normal chests. Those are skins worth around 30-35$. Additionally chests have 4 things you loot. Also if you dont like what you got you can reroll up to 3 times for Gold which you use to buy champions and get from playing games - equivalent of BE/IP. Though getting gold there is pretty grindish (but there are missions every day often for 800 gold. so its not that hard). in 1,5 years of playing I got content worth at least 500$ and thats only my asumption because I got like 5 legendary skins, 2 legendary announcers. Overall of 100 skins for champions, many free champions, shit ton of cosmetics that I not use that much, but still. and hots its just one game that gives so much free stuff and they dont take it away from people trying to greed to get more money from the game. Keep defending Riot. Keep watching them literally sht on you and see how in some time you re going to have to pay for things that were free before, becasue they will see they can do whatever and still have people buying tons of RP and playing.
: Aside from the very premise maybe? > [{quoted}](name=zZedIsFed,realm=EUNE,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=mZPacj2u,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-29T11:33:30.416+0000) > > I belive that you don&amp;#039;t recive enough BE compared to how much IP we used to gain. I belive this is a problem. > > Unlocking champs with shards + shards readily available over a large number of games/ periods of times = better in my book all day. I was wasting a ton on mystery champs also so I can level up my mastery levels, so not the case anymore. The only downside to it is you have less on demand options unless you do the stupid thing of disenchating everything so you can buy from shop. I do get it however, some ppl simply don't have the patience, sucks to be them lol. Just my humble opinion xDD
"some" - means most of players who dont enjoy unlocking champions by using BE on every random shard they dont want. Sorry to burst your bubble but its only you enjoying this.
: please stop getting buthurt over preseason mmr (edit: this stays ;) ) {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/204010760 "PLACEMENTS Everyone starts off each new ranked season without a rank. The first ten games you play in each queue will place you in a tier and division for that queue. Where you land is based on the outcome of these games, the difficulty of the opponents you faced in these games, and your rank from the previous season and preseason. All players undergo a ‘soft reset’ at the beginning of each season, so your new rank will likely be lower than it was at the end of the previous season. You can read more about preseason here." Straight out of riots support page and ranked faq. And now stop trolling people in preseason ranked and spreading false information.
: Any form of reportcalling is punishable. I think everybody should know that by now. He did exactly that. I don't say that the system works perfectly fine, because it didn't. But as a program always makes a "true/false" decision, it works proper here. Reportcalling? Yes => punishment.
He got straight 14day ban for that and in mail from riot, they said he got banned for homophobic language. Any more doubts about his ban being not justified?
: Ezreal
Ezreal was fine untill kleptomancy kicked in. He had winrate of 47% as adc and 51% as jungle. Nerfing ezreal instead of kleptomancy which broke him is just stupid. He will be once again trash tier outshined by every adc building crit not mentioning he wont be viable in jungle anymore.
Blitzz (EUNE)
: Riot gives us free skins and we complain. What kind of a community we are?
Hots earns basically nothing compared to lol yet I got like at least 500 $ worth of skins alone(including legendaries)if not more. You dont need to unlock the loot. You just get it right after lvling up champion mastery. Aditionally you also get cosmetics and champions. You can also buy skins with shards you get from loot chests as well. In 1,5 years of playing hots I got 90 skins alone, without counting other cosmetics and free champions. What did i get from riot that is one of the richest companies in moba industry since hextech chest were introduced? 100-150$ at best. And now they also nerfed orange essence plus drop of skin shards by including useless emotes and shit. Dont tell me we should thank them because they dont treat us well at all. Lately they jist rip us off.
: Laptop for lol
It defenitely should. Though even medium lol settings look pretty nice on laptop. When I am at my friends home I take my laptop that has only i3, itegrated graphics and 4 GB RAM and I play on lowest settings but I get stable 60 fps and considering the screens is only 15,3'' it is enough for one night with lol. So your laptop should be perfect
: My thoughts on Zoe so far (nerfs?)
Lololo. She can throw Q out of fog of war. Similar to old nidalee. It is fast travelling skillshot. It deals enough damage anyway without even E amplifying it.
: > [{quoted}](name=T4underbolt,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KAuRRscB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-24T06:05:29.807+0000) > > Im pretty sure they are going to just make skillshot of his Q and justifying that he has skillshot now they will make his damage even more broken and make him even more of a lane bully but at the same time his late game will also be godlike. Standard riot games reworks. I'll let you in on a little secret. Due to how high damage tuning is right now and how low Base armour is, Pantheon has a half decent late game, he basically just vaporises the ADC if they ever get close enough to get stunned.
Well I never denied that he has now strong late game. Its just that when damage will get tuned down (because that is what is going to happen at some point I think) he will be reworked into having every part of the game too strong. The same happened with WW, Urgot and many other champions that were supposed to be weak somewhere and strong somewhere else. Instead they got every part of the game strong because they got one skillshot in their kit for a change.
: First win of the day does not grant 50 blue essence?
Well its better now getting 575XP than having it nerfed by 175. this 50 BE in exchange for so much exp is just another attempt to fool people that they actually get more than before.
Afelers (EUNE)
: Pantheon has problems but not with his looks but the amount of damage he does compared to his lack of skillshots. Don't worry though, he will probably receive a visual update when they finally get to his rework.
Im pretty sure they are going to just make skillshot of his Q and justifying that he has skillshot now they will make his damage even more broken and make him even more of a lane bully but at the same time his late game will also be godlike. Standard riot games reworks.
skinTDM (EUNE)
: Is Fiora a fun champ?
Well if you have fun outrading every champ in lane by default, being immortal while melting both squishies and tanks then you wont be bored for sure.
: Boom, 1 shot. Youre dead.
Yeah assassin meta. Good joke dude. Meanwhile A guy with 4k hp and 200 mr and armor is killing squishies with barely full combo. And you talk about assassin meta. Thanks god finally assassins can do a difference. Everyone were too tanky before. Even when you picked a mid lane mage, when it builds rod of ages forget about getting a single kill.
: They aren't going to move the servers just because an ISP is still resisting online games. The EUW server is in a great location, it's actually where most servers for most games end up being. Amsterdam!
Euw yes. It is finw. Or maybe you have trouble readin. It was eune that was fked up and dont tell me about isp resisting gaming. Only lol had such problems.
: Syndra Montage | Best Syndra Plays
Something like "plays" doesnt exist when you talk about syndra. Unless you call pressing r a play
WolfChases (EUNE)
: What the hell are you talking about? Rengar good early game? - Hell NO! Rengar OP late game? - Hell NO! As an all in melee assassin he falls off when everyone is decently fed late game. Rengar gets pover spike during mid game. Free QSS? - Its not, it barely helps you when uou get cought. Rengar killing you in 3 abilities with only machete? Hell NO! His W anD E barely do damage early game unless you were at 30% hp. Increase radius on his ult? -What The Hell???? You can literally see him ulting from HALF THE MAP with SCREAM on top ov that and INDICATOR above your head and YOU STILL WANT MORE THAN THAT?
What did I expect from guy who plays rengar. LoL. Yes regnar 100-0 me with qwe and 2 autos. lvl 3 vs lvl 3. If you dont want to believe me keep being delusional. I bet dynamicq is the best thing that have ever happend in your opinion as well. I see his mark on me and 1 second later im dead. Even kassadin with unlimited mana cant run fast enough from rengar in ult. Rengar already hits late game after getting duskblade which he can rush without going for jungle item.
Perilum (EUW)
: Welcome to Season 8, where your magic way of stop to whine is {{item:3047}}. Just like in Season 7.
Good joke. 30 armor wont change anything. Unless you say to rush ninja tabi just because rengar is jungling and can gank or counterjungle you. It still doesnt ensure safety. He just needs one more auto to finish you off in early when you build tabi. In mid/late game it doesnt matter if you have built armor.
Rioter Comments
: For me it was kinda clear that when they said "disenchant ALL your shards that you don't want because ALL will be worth less" they meant that ALL shards will be worth less and we should disenchant ALL that we don't want. And the reason was not the change to BE but that chest are more likely to give skins now and rarely champions. Before it was 50 50. I still think the cut was too hard. I only got to open one box so far and it was a champion shard. qq So yeah they should increase OE we get for disenchanting again or decrease the needed OE.
It is a lie. I was already having 0 skins from hextech chests for like 2 months. There is no bad luck protection. You will keep getting either 450 champs or some shitty emotes instead of champion skins. There was no reason to nerf OE. They just did it cause they are greedy. Any other game including MOBAs gives 10 times more free stuff even with 10 times less income from that game. Riot is just a bunch of greedy bastards
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