Ravnir (EUNE)
: ARURF
its a great mode but still being forced to play champs you dont have sucks. also some champs should be disabled
: Teemo needs a rework
Totally agree he really needs a buff to say the least.
Nazgul10 (EUNE)
: This is actually getting annoying
again, this is why it should be based on more than just win/defeat..
Rioter Comments
Tr0LL1002 (EUNE)
: Take action!Buff supports especially thresh!He is left out !Lets not forget him!
glad thresh is gone.. was always one the most versatile strong annoying supports.
: >There would be no harm in removing people chat. like i said if the systems in place work, they will be banned anyway for trolling instead. You're shifting them from one bad behaviour that's easier to detect to a worse one that is a bit harder to detect, and also what people seem to complain about more. >but it will help certain people and save their accounts. It's honestly not that hard to not be toxic. To get to a perma ban status, you either have to ignore 3 warnings, or use a slur/the k acronym (which deserves the penalty it carries) and ignore that 1 warning. If people aren't going to learn after those stages, they're unlikely to at any point. >on top of it im sure a lot of people wouldnt be able to resist ingame and plug it in quickly just to flame again. Again, this is a behavioural issue more than it is a flaming one. People who lack the self control to not type are unlikely to have the self control to not "teach that bad player a lesson" through other means. To repeat, people literally get chances, including chat restrictions, before bans. If they don't fix their behaviour by then, they're unlikely to at all. Or unless they face severe consequences for it (e.g. a perma).
''You're shifting them from one bad behaviour that's easier to detect to a worse one that is a bit harder to detect, and also what people seem to complain about more.'' potentially, but you will also save loads of people. '''It's honestly not that hard to not be toxic. To get to a perma ban status, you either have to ignore 3 warnings, or use a slur/the k acronym (which deserves the penalty it carries) and ignore that 1 warning. If people aren't going to learn after those stages, they're unlikely to at any point. '' depends who you are, your personaility and most of all how serious you are in gaming. '''Again, this is a behavioural issue more than it is a flaming one. People who lack the self control to not type are unlikely to have the self control to not "teach that bad player a lesson" through other means. To repeat, people literally get chances, including chat restrictions, before bans. If they don't fix their behaviour by then, they're unlikely to at all. Or unless they face severe consequences for it (e.g. a perma).'' i already am the living proof, if i cant talk, i dont resort to trolling. hence why me and many others request a simple full mute. and then there is ''agreeing'' with the punishments and how riot stands behind it. me amongst many others dont agree with their view on punishment.. they dont care about context to name 1 thing. either way we could continue forever i gues, peace.
: >and SOME people resorted to trolling because they couldnt talk not all. I believe it was more than half actually, iirc. >they should for sure give a full mute to people that request it. Given the history of behaviour of people who had (since we're splitting hairs here) limited access to chat, can you blame them for being hesitant on allowing a perma chat removal? Flipside, why don't you just remove your enter key from your keyboard when playing league? It would yield the same response with less risk on Riot's end, on top of them not having to build a program to opt into this, as well as field support tickets for those who wish to opt out at a later time. You're acting like it's Riot's responsibility to make sure you're not toxic, when all it requires is a small amount of self control, and is no one's but the "person who's typing"'s responsibility/fault.
There would be no harm in removing people chat. like i said if the systems in place work, they will be banned anyway for trolling instead. but it will help certain people and save their accounts. Why dont i remove my enter key? bruf, plugging it in and out after every game, or alt+tabbing because of music etc.. yeah thats just too much of a hassle.. on top of it im sure a lot of people wouldnt be able to resist ingame and plug it in quickly just to flame again.
: And if that resorted to people inting and trolling instead, what would removing it completely change? Again, you're splitting hairs over something that comes to the same conclusion. It was trialled. It created more problems than it fixed. They didn't do it again.
They trialed numbered restrictions. and SOME people resorted to trolling because they couldnt talk not all. it would bring down toxicity by a certain % they should for sure give a full mute to people that request it. and if they would still troll after then they will get banned in the end anyway.
: It was trialled. It failed. Along with various other methods to combat toxicity. That doesn't change the fact that toxicity should still be punished.
again they didnt ever give full mutes aka not even getting 4 lines to talk they only gave restrictions with limited chat.
: I've been playing since Season 2, I've been around almost as long as you have. >Honestly, I still don't have a problem if people are being toxic. You can easily mute them and Riot could just give out (permanent) chat restrictions. By the time I have to utilize my mute button, you've already negatively impacted my game. Not to mention, if one person is toxic, it usually drags someone else into the mix, which further impacts game play as people are too busy hurling insults at eachother, and just generally tilting everyone. It's a team game, that requires team work. Not flaming. Riot already tried permanent chat restrictions. If you've been around as long as you claim, you'd also know that this program was a disastrous failure, which is why it was scrapped. People who had these restrictions resorted to trolling or inting in place of flaming, as toxicity is rarely a case of "I can't stop saying bad words" as it is a "behavioural problem". Doing this, in effect, would make the problem you're complaining about _**worse.**_ >So why does Riot bother so much about toxic people? The trollers and inters are the problem because you cannot just mute them, they lose your promos and if you report them Riot says "they just had a bad game". Because both are bad. One is just significantly easier to punish than the other, which is why the turn around is quicker. You've not explained how tribunal was better at all in this post. You've just complained about toxicity being punished faster than trolling, which as explained is just because it's easier to do so. > So yes, I woud like to go back. To the days where you received a punishment for _**legitimately **_ having a bad game? Not just the "lul bad game" comments we see today, but legit. Again, the reason tribunal was scrapped was because the false positive rate was _**obscenely high.**_ A system that fails more than it succeeds is not an effective system.
no, riot never gave FULL MUTES permanently.. they only gave normal chat restrictions except there were hundreds of them.
: Tribunal was significantly less effective than the current system, and had a false positive rate that was absurdly high in comparison to what we have today. People rarely actually read it and just hit punish - this was essentially why it was removed in the end. If you'd like to go back to a system that is significantly worse than the current one, I'd been keen to know as to why.
lol rather have SOME false postives than having all these trolls running loose without getting banned.
: Why are Trolls protected so much ?
rito is crap when it comes to banning and judging what is trolling and not, same for flame. luckily only rito is this strict compared to other games. yet they barely ban trolls.. its stupid.
SODXI (EUNE)
: Point exactly. people get random characters. Guy getting his main will be better than some random champ. That URF and ARAM
that still doesnt take away the fact that some champs are OP in this mode..
SODXI (EUNE)
: LoL. I played Vlad and I sucked. So not really OP. I have also won against vlad and fiora many times.
then you have clearly no idea.. and your opponent that was vlad had to be bad aswell. wait til you run into someone that knows the character.
Wen294 (EUW)
: In his shield he can't attack. In his ult he doesn't dodge the slow abilities, he just doesn't get influenced by the slow. The damage still hits him full in the face though. the only spell he has with which he dodges abilities is his Q.
all in all his whole kit together makes it so the avoiding spells on Q is not needed.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=zy9BusQL,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-07-01T09:29:59.410+0000) > > they have always been greedy.. i bet they even lie and comfort themselves saying they aint. Wow, it's almost like they're a for profit business or something...
being a bsns is 1 thing, being greedy is another.
Rondö (EUW)
: You will get nothing from Riots Mark my words
they have always been greedy.. i bet they even lie and comfort themselves saying they aint.
Paper1 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Obi Wan Kanosey,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WQtantIU,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-30T19:14:36.713+0000) > > High Plat wasn't fun. > > Diamond is even harder though, the skill level difference between Dia V and Dia 3+ is unreal, its like going from Bronze to Plat I've heard, but at diamond it kind of should be if you want to prove yourself to be the best. > > The issue is people know this so just give up at low diamond and play just so they don't decay or they're boosted there. Some people claim also to have multiple accounts, so they dont care about being reported and banned or whatever, thus feeding the "dont care" agenda even more. Even at diamond five level, the mistakes are still easy to identify, and yet I wonder why other people can't just have the foresight required and control themselves properly.
i always thought they rig games aswell sometimes you win 5 in a row because your team is always good and SUDDENLY you lose the next 5 games in a row because your teams are suddenly utter garbage.. like uncarrieable garbage. no matter how well you play, even if you played consistently good in those 5 wins and defeats it doesnt matter.
Wolley (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Paper1,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WQtantIU,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-30T18:54:07.381+0000) > > Probably going to get downvoted for god knows what reason, but if you're a support main like myself and are at low diamond in solo queue, better get comfortable because you are going to be there for all eternity. In all the years I've played league, never has this game been filled with so many toxic, negative and skill-less people, at least in my games. In the majority of my games, there is always one guy who is doing badly in lane (usually top or mid) who wants to forfeit pre ten minutes because he died **once** in lane. If there isn't one of those, then there is someone who either picks a champion they can't play properly with, sometimes in a different position than it is meant to be played, or a guy who just can't play very well but is somehow diamond anyway (e.g. the one who keeps dying). > > This has been going on for a while now, but never before has it been this regular and extreme. Plus, it doesn't seem to matter what I do in game, the enemy seems to always counter everything. You really do need more than one of your team to actually get ahead in this game now, but even then if you have the one guy who is behind then you've basically achieved nothing. You become even until a dice roll happens and one side wins. Also, don't dare overextend even for just a teemo-sized step because then their bot lane, jungler and midlaner will all pile on top of you. Instead, just position safely and sacrifice all the xp and farm until they inevitably have applied so much pressure to your turrets in multiple lanes and get even further ahead. > > It gets worse too. I recently had a game where I played morgana support with a lucian and an eve jungle, and we somehow cant kill an alistar at level three/four who has no flash, after I walk up and give him a point blank Q. Somehow, evelynn didn't think to charm and chain our cc's together to secure the kill, and because she didn't alistar was able to flash onto a lucian at low health, kill him, and then proceed to escape through blue side tribush so that zyra bot lane can catch up and finish both me and evelynn off. And this is in DIAMOND. Mistakes are done here too, but it has never been this blatant and bad. > > To make things worse, even when that game was obviously over, people don't want to surrender at 15 minutes into the game, the time it is acceptable to "give up". How about if you do well and haven't died yet with tons of assists? That means nothing if you die just **once** in mid game, and their team can get multiple turrets, drake or baron from that alone. And guess what? you will get blamed for it by the 0/100 person on your team. > > It is so fun listening to chat and getting harassed almost every game, sometimes for no reason other than you don't follow the way that your teammate wants you to play the lane, even if it's wrong. You can't tell them it is wrong though otherwise be prepared for more verbal abuse, oh and also you better be there for every single one of your teammates all over the map at multiple places at once, otherwise they will ping you and wonder why you didn't come. How about full muting? Well that would be okay so long as everyone knew how to play decently, which is almost never. > > The enemy team always seem to have it easier as far as winning goes too. If you want to win, be prepared to play from behind a lot and ride it out until your team catches up, and even when it does get to that point, be prepared to diceroll again over an elder dragon. > > I am not asking for sympathy by the way, but I do ask that before you say "it's your fault you can't climb", reflect on your experience playing and ask yourself "Are my mistakes in game the ones that usually lose us the game?", and if that answer is yes, then i'm guessing that you're lower than diamond. There is probably stuff I missed off the "rant", but since I've typed a lot already I'll conclude now. > > Anyway, until the state of the game changes, I'll be heavily reducing the amount of times I play, because it is simply not fun nor satisfying to win due to the reasons above. And if you disagree with that, then you are a very optimistic player indeed. I've been feeling the same dude i heard that Riot Games which is owned by Tencent has implemented a secret algorithm that detects ur mmr and skill level and places u with people a bit lower than urs just to play their game more and more they try to milk its users for more money also when u make new acc they detect that u have main and places u with smurfs etc. in the end u need to grind like 1.5, 2k games to get our of high plat/high dia
wouldnt surprise me, money hungry little @#($&@#$@*#$ they are. and i bet they lie to themselves in order to keep doing it with stupid excuses while in the end.. its money money money and pro-play only.
Paper1 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Silnt3455,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WQtantIU,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-06-30T23:20:12.112+0000) > > All those negative things you pointed out also happen in the enemy team, unless you're extremely unlucky and every single game your team is really really bad and your opponent's team is perfect. In my opinion you are just getting tired of the game, and it is totally accepted to be so. Honestly I have never agreed with the premise that for every bad player on your team there is a bad player on the enemy team, or any similar premise which suggests that the matchmaking setup is somehow equal. Also, I remember reading something on the support site that the matchmaking aims to match me with like-minded players. If that was even remotely true, I would not be teamed with players who want to give up before ten minutes. But yeah, I am tired of the game because it doesn't allow for good feedback in order to improve while all these problems exist. And why would anyone want to improve if the payoff for making a good play is cancelled out by one of your team making a bad one?
they made league waaaaay to teambased aswell just because thats ''cooler'' to view at pro play. but rito keeps forgetting that 99.9% isnt pro and has to deal with this sh!t.
Silnt3455 (EUW)
: All those negative things you pointed out also happen in the enemy team, unless you're extremely unlucky and every single game your team is really really bad and your opponent's team is perfect. In my opinion you are just getting tired of the game, and it is totally accepted to be so.
just because it happens on the other team doesnt make it right. right now it means its just being fair in being unfair. just because everyone deals with sh!t doesnt mean we should. OP raises strong points which is shared by tons of people. i agree with each and every point.
: You better compensate for today
they barely compensate.. its quite sad seeing as we have to endure so much bullcrap.
abixbg (EUNE)
: OK Riot you win. URF in not worth the time wasted anymore.
the random champs u get are crap. draft is way better.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=KYQB0bbf,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-06-23T10:00:23.081+0000) > > YUP! everything is seen as flame. > even asking, why are you 0/3 in 8 minutes? > they just see that as flame, while in reality its JUST A QUESTION "why didn't you kill yourself yet" too, is "just a question"
obviously but thats WAY further apart.. the contrast between those questions is way too much apart .
en2que (EUW)
: Add phone verification to play ARURF
all i know is that the RNG is even stronger than in aram.. very hard to make a comeback..
: no such thing as troll build ok(to a certain extent). i dont see anything wrong here. just a bad player.
if you think that 1/10 trynda game is not a troll build then you should be doing other stuff than league. that build plus that score, its an obvious troll and should be getting a big ban.. but hey, better ban the guy that calls the trynda an ''id!iot'' that game instead.
Fast Enough (EUNE)
: vs missions
no missions on EUW so far i think
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T22:30:00.280+0000) > > and that would be justice. > if you troll you deserve to win less dont u think. > it will be the same for both teams. What do you mean WOULD. It already IS like that. People only see negative stuff around them. You can have 5 enemy afk in a row and win those 5 games, but then get a troll in ally team and lose next game and OMG TROLLS RUING MY GANES I LOSE UNFAIR ELO ETC ETC REEEEE
both fricken scenarios shouldnt happen, who says i only see the negative you are entirely missing the point the point is those 5 games the enemy teams had leavers they should all be compensated. the game after that i have a troll i should be compensated. THAT. IS. FAIR. stop making it harder than it is. good day to you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T22:32:46.908+0000) > > you cant calculate these odds as i explained in the other comment > 5 people per team, both 5x a chance to have a troll including yourself > anyone that doesnt troll has more chance to win, its always been like that. Lets say in the past 300 games, there was 90 games in which there was a "troll". That troll was not you. That means, on average, you would lose 40 games thanks to an ally troll and win 50 games thanks to an enemy trolll. Thats 10 extra wins for you that you did not earn. Unless you are trolling sometimes, and if you are, please get banned.
and its the fricken same to everyone NOT just me if you obey the rules. you still dont get it. have a good day.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T20:09:24.325+0000) > > its not winning, if you lose you just dont lose points. What I mean is that you have a problem with guaranteed losses because trolls in your team. But, theres more chance to have a troll in enemy team and this guaranteed win, but you dont seem to complain about that...
you cant calculate these odds as i explained in the other comment 5 people per team, both 5x a chance to have a troll including yourself anyone that doesnt troll has more chance to win, its always been like that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-26T20:10:50.063+0000) > > it doesnt matter what we think trolling is, riot is already deciding that for us, they did that since 2009. > i dont know what you mean by ''you gain more elo from it than you lose...'' > but that said, it would be like that for everyone then. What I mean is this. There is a 4/9 chance that your team will have a troll and you lose because of that. There is a 5/9 chance that enemy team has a troll and you win because of that. That means in the long run you win more lp from trolls than you lose, as long as you yourself are not troll. Do you understand? Its basic math..
and that would be justice. if you troll you deserve to win less dont u think. it will be the same for both teams.
: BUFF ADC OR KEEP THIS META?
clearly the previous one.
: A quick guide to ranked play
more like, dont expect anything, prepare to be let down, have no faith in teammates, prepare to grind, prepare to get trolled/flamed/get afks..
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T19:04:44.471+0000) > > HA if only it was 10% of all games dude.. come on. > and my way would probably decrease toxicness. > cus people will know that the troll will get punished and the team wont lose points. Ok but do you realise that people have diffirent definitions of the word "TROLL". To some people, the poor unskilled guy who lost his lane is automaticly a troll and they will flame him so he would ragequit. And once again you are forgetting, doesnt matter what procent it is, you gain more elo from it than you lose...
it doesnt matter what we think trolling is, riot is already deciding that for us, they did that since 2009. i dont know what you mean by ''you gain more elo from it than you lose...'' but that said, it would be like that for everyone then.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T19:15:37.863+0000) > > maybe, its guessing at this point > but it would be gone by a simple mute and the system will do the rest. > right now its unfair regardless, i rather deal with some potential flame that i can mute than certainties of losing because of trolls. What about certainties of winning because of this? You dont seem to be complaining about that are you?
its not winning, if you lose you just dont lose points.
Wen294 (EUW)
: Yes, it decreases 'toxicness' when you have a troll. AKA it decreases toxic behaviour of non-trolls once every 7 games or so. In the other 6 games it increases toxic behaviour.
maybe, its guessing at this point but it would be gone by a simple mute and the system will do the rest. right now its unfair regardless, i rather deal with some potential flame that i can mute than certainties of losing because of trolls.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T18:53:57.294+0000) > > their loss, having trolls and losing points unfairly creates toxicity aswell. > people tend to get more mad when they tryhard and people ruin it on purpose to start with. Yeah but I would rather have toxity in 1/10 games with a troll than every game where your teammate dies to first blood...
HA if only it was 10% of all games dude.. come on. and my way would probably decrease toxicness. cus people will know that the troll will get punished and the team wont lose points.
: > [{quoted}](name=Thaaboom,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=5fE5kaeO,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-06-26T17:55:50.729+0000) > > cool story and all but overall it would be an improvement. > just mute the flamer, we have those regardless. > right now we get screwed anyway, its worth experimenting at the least. > > and your example of 4/9 this 5/9 that is also great, but it shouldnt happen in the first place.. thats on riot if it does happen. > and when it does we should be compensated, right now its just fair in being unfair ''because it happens to everyone'' > oh and whoevers been toxic should also in that game not gain / lose LP. > > the chat already gets scanned each game anyway.. like i said, its worth trying it out. Well, its not going to be tried out, because riot said countless of times, that they will not implement something that encourages toxity.
their loss, having trolls and losing points unfairly creates toxicity aswell. people tend to get more mad when they tryhard and people ruin it on purpose to start with.
: The loss prevented for games like that has been suggested countless of times since season 2, but there is a reason riot said they will never implement this. A system like that would encourage toxity. Imagine if you were in a game that seems lost, (even if it sometimes is not). With your system in action, most of the time, players would start bullying and preasuring one player (probably the one perfoming poorly) to quit, making him lose more while you dont lose anything. And other people argue, that that player can just mute and ignore them, but the fact still stands that people would be more toxic thanks to this system. Thats why riot refuses to make a system like that (the idea of a comeback would be ruined because people would spend more time making allies ragequit than man up and try to come back). Another point is, and you are going to hate me, The system right now is fair. In fact, it is even advantageous for you. You only mentioned when trolls and leavers make you lose you lose unfair lp. But I dont see you complaining about enemy trolls and leavers who GIVE you free lp. People only see bad stuff, that happens to them, but not the good stuff. Lets do some math. There are 10 people in a match. Lets assume one of them is going to ragequit, dc or troll and thus make his team lose. Now we assume that YOU are NOT going to be that player. That means out of other 9 players, 1 player is randomly going to be the troll. Every player has 1/9 chance to be it. You have 4 teammates and 5 enemies. That means there is a 4/9 procent chance you are going to lose thanks to a troll, and a 5/9 chance you are going to win thanks to the troll. This means in a long run, if you yourself are not a troll, you are getting more lp than you are losing thanks to the trolls.
cool story and all but overall it would be an improvement. just mute the flamer, we have those regardless. right now we get screwed anyway, its worth experimenting at the least. and your example of 4/9 this 5/9 that is also great, but it shouldnt happen in the first place.. thats on riot if it does happen. and when it does we should be compensated, right now its just fair in being unfair ''because it happens to everyone'' oh and whoevers been toxic should also in that game not gain / lose LP. the chat already gets scanned each game anyway.. like i said, its worth trying it out.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
i gues leagues community is quite unique then.. i gues its true leagues community has a ''unique'' reputation. either way, riot could be saying anything and saying that the community ''deems this toxic'' all we can do is take their word for it, like with many things.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
im just glad that its basically only riot considering that ''harassment'' the bar is set really low like this. at this rate anyone can be offended by anything soon (note that i never call for reports, i just think its being silly)
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
thats considered harassment huh? jesus christ. over the top, understanding someone to vent a little when someone trolls and takes his points away i can totally understand and i hoped riot would aswell. unless its hardcore swearing and namecalling i wouldnt call it harassment. but yeah.. its a sugary world these days lol i would simply mute and be done with it.. sure it CAN be annoying but ''harassment'' lol multiple reports wont even work, one is enough.. just mute the guy asking for reports and gg
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
i dont need to re-read anything all i ever stated was that IF those were the only chatlogs then its BS to ban him yes its in the rules that asking for a report or w/e is not allowed but enough for bans etc? that would be stupid.
Zyzyx (EUW)
: Mostly two reasons: a) It can be abused to boost players by basically "taking a bullet" for them when the game is sure to be lost. b) It %%%%s up matchmaking if some players get deranked massively for losing just one game.
Then let the troll/dc guy lose double points so the boosting is canceled out between the duo.
Marissa (EUW)
: The idea behind not implementing something like that, as in preventing you from a loss for games with an "unlucky" teammate, is that if you're good enough and play enough you'll eventually climb. An occasional troll might slow that process down, but how much do they truly slow it down? As for myself, I've played about 40 soloq games now (with nearly 50% wr). In about 10 of those losses it most definitely was purely my fault. The remaining 10 are a bit more nuanced. Unlucky game for the entire team, an extremely fed person on the enemy team... Still only 1 of those contained someone that actually trolled/left. [Just a kid that thought it was funny to play ranked, even get a kill and then int - to leave the game immediately after with a "cya later" in chat.] Sure to others it might happen slightly more often, still the longer the climb, the more those games average out (matter less in overall winrate). As a general rule though, I'd try to stop playing ranked if you're having an "unlucky" day. It stops you from getting tilted or annoyed by teammates too much - which tends to cause you to lose more of your precious LP.
its still unfair it still screws 4 teammates and the fun of 9 it makes it more of a grind I certainly agree with OP as he raises a fair point which is shared by many players.
Boolhya (EUW)
: Nerf these champions
also nerf Irelia, Master yi, Fiora, Taliyah, zoe, Kaisa.. and conqueror.
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=iDárkness,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=yEs0git9,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2018-06-26T08:39:49.302+0000) > > You are a funny guy, because ''i was being toxic' 1 game maybe gonna get the perm. > And then threaten to show the logs? you are sad. Lets see boy lets see Game 1: >>> [0:11] iDárkness (Vayne): so, what did you say about me? [3:01] iDárkness (Vayne): you can better suck your fathers %%%% [3:04] iDárkness (Vayne): before you talking [3:06] iDárkness (Vayne): %%%%%% [3:31] iDárkness (Vayne): ty [3:41] iDárkness (Vayne): im gonna mute you now [4:05] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): report thresh flame since champ select [5:44] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): thresh is trolling btw [8:12] iDárkness (Vayne): gj [8:22] iDárkness (Vayne): awh are you flaming too? [8:30] iDárkness (Vayne): i can also int every lane if you want? [8:48] iDárkness (Vayne): you are also muted now [8:50] iDárkness (Vayne): and reported [9:47] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): can you report thresh pls? [12:16] iDárkness (Vayne): go get cancer and die [12:44] iDárkness (Vayne): nice ip [13:33] iDárkness (Vayne): riot can see this all so idc [14:04] iDárkness (Vayne): gj thresh [15:49] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): can you report this thresh? [16:14] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): ? [17:54] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): look his items xd [20:24] iDárkness (Vayne): wp [32:51] [All] iDárkness (Vayne): bg report thresh and shyv flame Game 2: >>> [0:10] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): playing cancer meta and still bad pc rip xer [0:56] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): im not playing cancer 2 shits bot [1:12] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): so dont talk with your shitty pc [1:15] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): skid [1:30] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): we will see next patch %%%%head [3:10] iDárkness (Jinx): kk [4:16] iDárkness (Jinx): -%%%% off with your ff and play [5:53] iDárkness (Jinx): wtf are you building when we are full ad [9:03] iDárkness (Jinx): just look what teemo is building [10:41] iDárkness (Jinx): alright [10:43] iDárkness (Jinx): lets afk [13:43] iDárkness (Jinx): alright [13:45] iDárkness (Jinx): lets ping mute also [14:34] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): cancer %%%%%% [16:01] iDárkness (Jinx): league did %%%%t there own game [16:02] iDárkness (Jinx): :) [18:21] iDárkness (Jinx): ill start quiting league again [18:36] iDárkness (Jinx): teemo [18:39] iDárkness (Jinx): you need to get cancer [18:42] iDárkness (Jinx): with that build [18:43] iDárkness (Jinx): lol [20:18] iDárkness (Jinx): do you see we care about this game [20:49] iDárkness (Jinx): LOL [21:54] iDárkness (Jinx): ''we can win'' [21:55] iDárkness (Jinx): xDDDDDDDDDDD [22:05] iDárkness (Jinx): if you where full ap [22:17] iDárkness (Jinx): instead of attack speed cancer build [22:28] iDárkness (Jinx): 1v1 me after then? [22:52] iDárkness (Jinx): i will give you a lession about learn how to play [24:04] [All] iDárkness (Jinx): ez Game 3: >>> [0:49] iDárkness (Irelia): Nasus will come he is to the toilet [6:15] iDárkness (Irelia): yeh you are so good mister plat 5 [10:53] [All] iDárkness (Irelia): lol [13:58] iDárkness (Irelia): lol vel he was helping you and still flaming [14:09] iDárkness (Irelia): yes helping [14:30] iDárkness (Irelia): LOL [14:50] iDárkness (Irelia): idc [15:01] iDárkness (Irelia): how can you be that boosted [16:24] iDárkness (Irelia): yeh you [16:53] iDárkness (Irelia): useless vel [16:55] iDárkness (Irelia): be boosted [17:29] iDárkness (Irelia): l2p [17:44] iDárkness (Irelia): killing someone doesnt make any lane win [17:45] iDárkness (Irelia): lol [26:50] iDárkness (Irelia): yeh or nobody follows [31:50] [All] iDárkness (Irelia): kanker izi Game 4: >>> [2:25] iDárkness (Annie): heals?! [4:16] iDárkness (Annie): gg [4:17] iDárkness (Annie): we loiset [6:28] [All] iDárkness (Annie): let your mom suck me again vel [7:19] [All] iDárkness (Annie): oeh yeh, to murder him [9:38] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LASATE R FBASNFA [9:57] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LATER %%%%%HHHHHHHHH [10:26] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LATER BTICH [10:57] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LATER BTICH [12:25] [All] iDárkness (Annie): EZZZZZZZ [12:46] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LATER BTICCCCCCH [13:44] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LATER BITCCCCCCCCH [13:57] [All] iDárkness (Annie): TRASH TALK MORE [16:08] [All] iDárkness (Annie): LATER %%%%% [18:23] [All] iDárkness (Annie): REP [18:33] [All] iDárkness (Annie): open inhib ftw? [23:17] iDárkness (Annie): trist [23:23] iDárkness (Annie): you did %%%%t this game [23:34] [All] iDárkness (Annie): well we can report vel for inting And that's only your LAST punishment.
oh gosh hes Dutch aswell.. on behalf of the netherlands, sorry.. this guy is... yeah.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
im not argueing the responsibility here though
Rumkatten (EUW)
: Calling out for reports on people is a bannable offence. So that is the reason.
i could make up a rule that says ''you cant walk on the summoners rift you are only allowed to move by using flash'' and someone could say ''yup you walked its in the rules its your own fault.'' just cus its in the rules doesnt mean it isnt ridiculous. what a load of crap honestly.
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