Breakhz (EUNE)
: Too many boosted players!!
Because the champion is boosted, league is: pick boosted champ like: Riven, Yasuo, Katarina, Vayne, Draven, Ezreal, Jax, Yi, Darius etc... Or dont even bother losing.
: People haven’t done that since his release, it’s always been unreliable Also there’s no reason why it won’t work... W snare duration hasn’t been changed since his release nor has anything to do with his E damage... so it works the exact way and has the exact same numbers as his release. So either your doing something wrong or people are getting tenacity against you (prob the tenacity rune I guess but it’s weird if it’s happening every game).
Well, what's going on is, Jhin as a champion was perfect with the old masteries, where you 1 hit and your hp heal amount is just amazing, which allow you to stand on fight more, and let you have more risk, about the E, the e damage didnt change true, the W root, also true, but the mastery and the positioning strategy of the game changed a lot that doesn't allow you to do, what you have already done before, E in the old days, had enough power to help his damage, while his damage before was better than now(before he got nerfed) and items nerf and buff and adjust effected Jhin, more than any other adc, tell me who need Infinity edge with 50% crit damage more than Jhin? now its 25% which is half the power given than before, he lost a lot of damage because of that, other adc's has attack speed which they dont really effect by it, they can just buy another item such as blade king to deal damage. Which i can call it's nerf for Jhin more than any other adc. And also, Jhin used to have more movement speed than before thx to his items, which allow him to have chance to escape more than before 10X better. Which make you blind about his E, because you dont need its damage any more, but even tho with this movement speed, heal and damage, makes him perfect adc to be able to stop champs in his E, without any fear. But now days, u are afraid to get close, because u might be deleted, while u dont have escape abilities as i mentioned before, like Draven E and some other stuff in other champs.
: > Critical strike grant 10% (+ 0.4% per 1% bonus attack speed) bonus movement speed for 2 seconds, but deal only 50% (+ Infinity Edge item 18.75%) AD bonus physical damage. but that's not why he deals less damage on crit, just because it is in the same sentence doesn't mean they are connected. he deals less crit damage because he gets a guaranteed crit and he gets stupid amounts of ad > Who said he doesn't deal damage, he deal, but compared to other adc ? he is nothing but a joke, in team fight the only way to stay alive, is to stand back and use W or R, nothing else can save u. Unlike Draven for example who just E BOOM u are away, Vayne E u are stunned, Caitlyn E u are away, tristana ultimate... etc. that's where the W and E come in, you set up the traps to slow people trying to get on you, W them, then boom you are away. this comes from experience playing jhin, as with any adc you postion differently based on your range and safety tool. though benefit of jhin is that come late game he gets a kind of immunity to assasins, he bursts them just as fast as tthey burst him so play it right and you can kill them first. > it was meant to be trap to slow and deal damage, but now days his W isnt good enough to make ppl take damage from his E, not anymore. but the damage is just an afterthought, its a lot of damage espessially if you get a death brush going but its never been something you've needed... jhin's damage output and viability has no baring on his ability to land the trap damage. the ability for it to supply the vision and slow is enough to make the ability worth it, very valuable for a low mobility adc to be able to slow down and see flanks and ganks
Well i miss the old days, where i used to put all E together and 1 W is enough to take 1 person down who stand on it, if i hit him right with my W, this doesnt work anymore, sadly.
: > his 4th shot weaker than Draven aa, slower than all ADC's lower damage in auto attack than other adc's no survive ability except his movement speed, which take 25% of his damage + not that much of a movement speed than before, and doesn't save him from 1 shot, because u have to shoot to get escape, "offensive escape??" his 4th shot is an execute, very powerful when done right. and its not weaker than draven auto attack, draven does about 1100 ish, jhin is frequently 1800... it really doesn't matter which one has more damage, you forget they both like to burst squishies and after a certain point the damage just becomes overkill > his W deal less damage than any other long rage W ability such as Jinx and Kai'sa, and it is not that much of useful, it root yes, but the slow down of Jinx more op, its cc and mobiity (gives the passive movement speed), and its increably strong if you know hw to use it. in lane its a great follow up for your allies and late game you can catch out enemies from much further way. its not comparable to jinx or kaisa which are damage tools not utility tools > his E deal damage that is not that big for a trap, and so hard to let someone stand on it, and when they do, u should aim ur W, and guess what, ur W root isnt so good at early to keep them on it, so even if u root them, they will get out, and which one would u like more, deal more damage with ur E or root them longer, to take few damage from ur E ? his E isn't for damage, that's just if you get lucky with it. you use it for vision and the slow... stick it in chokepoints and it gives you warning and extra time to postion accordingly, plus when someone jumps on you the slow field can help a lot > now the ulti, this champion ultimate, is Beautifully designed, weak performance, his first 3 shots, deal damage not that big, depends on ur missing health, and slow u down, his 4th shot not bad of a damage if u are lower than 50% hp, but his passive 4th shot in late stronger than his ultimate, WHY? isn't his ultimate supposed to be the upgrade of his passive ? which means should be always stronger you are forgetting its not all about damage. the big thing about it is that it lets him deal damage from a screen away which is massive and helps keep him safe, and it slows. the damage is good for trying to snipe someone but his ult has a ton of catch potential when used right > and why it deal less damage than other ultimates such as jinx ultimate for example, jinx ult does % missing health damage, so does more but only in cases where its mostly overkill. jhin ult does good damage on its own and gets amped based on missing health. also remember its 4 shots instead of just one so the damage gets spread out. but jhn can kill a squishy with just the ult later on in the game if you land all 4 shots, no other adc can do that besides miss fortune > Jhin get damage reduced by 25% , not for crit, but for only movement speed, after he crit, which is for me not logical at all, double crit more important than movement speed. no he gets 25% less crit in exchange for 40+% extra ad. its not the movement speed that hes trading its his ad amp. that way he isn't killing someone with a single shot. like I said your dealing 1000-1800 damage in a single crit, without that crit reduction hed be one shotting by mid game. > but do we feel its damage ? well i don't that's because you are using a bad build... of course you don't feel the damage with a suboptimal build. the build you should be going is {{item:3031}} , {{item:3094}} , {{item:3031}} , {{item:3508}} /{{item:3031}} /{{item:3046}} (based on what you need), {{item:3812}} with defensive boots. this will maximise your damage output... trying to go bloodthirster first isn't very useful you get very little damage out of it. hail of blades also isn't the best anymore, a bug fix in 8.22 nerfed it hard. its actually tends to be better to go electrocute or dark harvest for the burst damage. ___ so jhin is a decently strong adc and my go to... but your just not building him for damage which hampers your ability to deal it. with a proper build he one shots people faster than any other adc and can very much kill other adcs in fights without issue
> no he gets 25% less crit in exchange for 40+% extra ad. its not the movement speed that hes trading its his ad amp. that way he isn't killing someone with a single shot. like I said your dealing 1000-1800 damage in a single crit, without that crit reduction hed be one shotting by mid game. #*Critical strike grant 10% (+ 0.4% per 1% bonus attack speed) bonus movement speed for 2 seconds, but deal only 50% (+ Infinity Edge item 18.75%) AD bonus physical damage.* >that's because you are using a bad build... of course you don't feel the damage with a suboptimal build. >the build you should be going is , , , / / (based on what you need), with defensive boots. this will maximise your damage output... trying to go bloodthirster first isn't very useful you get very little damage out of it. #Who said he doesn't deal damage, he deal, but compared to other adc ? he is nothing but a joke, in team fight the only way to stay alive, is to stand back and use W or R, nothing else can save u. Unlike Draven for example who just E BOOM u are away, Vayne E u are stunned, Caitlyn E u are away, tristana ultimate... etc. >his E isn't for damage, that's just if you get lucky with it. you use it for vision and the slow... stick it in chokepoints and it gives you warning and extra time to postion accordingly, plus when someone jumps on you the slow field can help a lot #*it was meant to be trap to slow and deal damage, but now days his W isnt good enough to make ppl take damage from his E, not anymore.*
Rioter Comments
BadboyUG (EUW)
: Poll: Should Nightblue3 get punished?
For what ? teaching u how to play? oh that's a huge crime.
: Riot:Did you hear that? neither do i.
Sad how ppl only dislike everything that is right, and they like everything that isnt right. Like say buff aurelion sol, no one will like, but say buff vayne u will 9K like. WOW best community ever, keep killing this game slowly.
Rioter Comments
: No the game is about skill, if it was about luck then you wouldn’t have pro players. Everything in life has an element of luck that’s obvious... but in league skill plays a big enough part to dictate rank over time (as the more games you play the more you eliminate probability), so if someone is in a rank they don’t belong you will eventually leave it, be it promoting or demoting.
Cute imagination you got there, nope you are wrong, and this game there is no pro players, at least not anymore, the only skill left in this game is just dodging skills other things there isnt, better champs win, who paid more has more elo, who picked the meta has more chance to win, who is more lucky got better team, where is the skills with that? if that is skills for you, then believe me i am way a head from this world with skills. Because i tried people's way in the game and saw the truth behind every champ and who is really improving your skills and which doesnt improve any thing at all. And between champs that doesnt improve you(Yasuo,Vayne,Yi,Udyr,Jarvan,Nasus...etc...) The only champs that really improve your skills:(Kayn,Twisted Fate,Aurelion sol,Gankplank, Kindered, Jhin,Ekko,shen,Kalista,Azir(Early game only, late ez af),Ivern.) This is the only champions that are balanced and some are weak af ex:AS,TF,GP. Aurelion sol 20/0 can get solo killed by Darius 0/20, because the game is balanced ofc. Gank plank get fed only when the game is over. Some of you will say Kayn?? oh because you are main kayn? , nope because literally until now, i didnt see anyone know how to transform right and how to buy items correctly for kayn with that being said, for me he is ez, but i saw that its impossible for other players,(Not all). Like building rhaast as tank, those people are so funny. Also Kayn is the weakest jungler in the game in early game, you easily invade and solo kill him when ever you see him. With that being said, i dont know what will make you think that the game is balanced, if there is only few champs are balanced. Like even the reality showing you that the most epic picks are: Aurelion sol, Ivern. But make them as strong as Riven for example,( Perma banned). Because the game is balanced. OH PLEASE PEOPLE.
Mada (EUW)
: If you enjoy posts like this, I highly recommend searching "Atheist experience" on youtube. It's a call-in show where theists make the wildest claims about morality, reality, history, testability and everything in between, despite lacking a basic understanding of whatever it is they're talking about.
People here doesn't like to be fair, they like that they climbed unfairly and they dont want to change the way so they dont demote to where they belong, this shows for you not for me, but the thing is if people doesn't want to wake up, no problem let them play this game for 7 years later, they wont reach the player who played fairly 1 month. Not even in 20 years, because of the hunger they got to boost their elo.
: ***
She is a feeder and has more winrate than me, thats why the game isnt about skills its about how much money u paid and how lucky u are.
: That’s not paying to win... paying to be put in a higher elo where the system will alrwady target youand you demote due to lack of skill isn’t paying to win, it’s paying to loose.
nope, this game isnt about skills to win, its about luck. So they will win no matter what skills they have.
: How does paying to be against tougher opponents give you an in-game advantage?
: i will look if there is something in his kit that can be exploited too much and is therefore unbalanceble/broken : passiv : broken .. he can go into the jungle and just get infinit hp by entering and exiting combat with monsters while lowlife similarely if he looses lane once someone can make his ad go down below 50% making him completely and utterly useless .. (except he uses the monster exploit) q : broken .. if he is a jungler -> killsteals he can make his q deal 150% dmg easily so its basedmg and scaling must be bad .. but if similarely if he is behind and underfed he has 0 chance of recovery except he exploits the infinit ad passiv .. w : so .. kayne w ? e : if the dmg is too high he can be too strong in teamfights because of his aoe reset burst dash if the dmg is too low it might become too weak because you need to reset it to make it actualy worth .. r : so increase ad by 250% -> 350%ad and all ad converted to ap :: 350% ad to ap meaning his spells scale 3.5 times as much as usual .. but if someone builds {{item:3089}} then they can actualy make the scaling go up to 4.9 times as much .. making your abbilitys suddenly scale soo much stronger is not balancible .. he would need to be completely worthless without ult to allow him to become chuck norris for 7 seconds during ult .. all in all .. doesnt look good ballancewise ..
I didnt the damage dealt, as u can see, changing with the damage can make it balanced, at least it will be more balanced than yasuo.
chεf (EUW)
: Who buys a boost to get to gold 4 lol
that was old thing, not after iron got released. Now gold 4 is just like plat 4 before iron.
Smerk (EUW)
: you can also try to git gud instead of crying
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDarkinReaper,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=iW3TurUM,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T22:21:29.990+0000) > > Oh, so you are going to tell me you have never seen a feeder winning ? Yes i have, but never in more than 10% of his games. Also the boosted person would still have won Games in which He feeds before He got boosted according to your Logic, so He didnt get that from the boost.
This community logic, that i can just stop trying go pay money and become diamond from gold, and call it skills try to reach me? Ok cool logic people. I am done.
: While i do doubt the numbers, it is unfair that people get to receive rewards they dont have the skill or effort to earn themselves. Finding boosted accounts is hard (especially early in the season when people can end up in the incorrect rank for them) as it requires manually checking a players match history for a pattern of a sudden gain in rank and then a sudden decline. If an automated system was implemented to efficiently find the boosted accounts, (this is the same as the bot detection) then 1:people may be incorrectly banned for boosting And 2:The boosters will find out the criteria for spotting boosted accounts and find a way to work around them(e.g. loosing every 3rd or 4th game) Unfortunately there isnt much we, as players can do against boosted accounts aside from accepting they will ruin the occasional game and reporting them.
I see, so eternal feeding in mid and high elo. Ok then there is no point to try anymore XD, either go pay for boost or stay in hell :D
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDarkinReaper,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=iW3TurUM,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T21:50:42.382+0000) > > Nope, and here it comes the unfair thing in this game which cannot be taken off from my chest. But nobody listen, the boosted people will be bad in the game true, but not demoted.. Because this system allow 0/15 to win and 15/0 to lose as i mentioned up there, which means even if they are so baddd they will be getting carried by their teammates and not at the same time, which will force their winrate to be 50% no matter how bad they are or which elo they are. Which will not change the fact that they reach the elo they want and they wont be demoted from it. No, their winrate will never be 50% after getting boosted and unless you have a source or anything for this its not an argument lmao.
Oh, so you are going to tell me you have never seen a feeder winning ?
: Dunkmaster Ivern
Riot good skins are dead, now they just make skins blindly for weak champ, and buff the op one and give them more skins, example: Jarvan4
: Right now Shaco is weak...
Shaco is op, he has invis. End of the story.
: Always amazing when you see players complaining about smurfs ON THEIR FREAKING SMURF. It just makes it sooo convincing.{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: League of broken mm. Be premade or smurf or be gone!
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDarkinReaper,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=iW3TurUM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-03-19T21:40:41.569+0000) > > People pay to get the elo u work for years, if u dont consider that pay to win, i dont know what will let u understand what it means. But they dont win, other people win on their account. If anything they pay to loose since the games will be harder for them after the boost.
Nope, and here it comes the unfair thing in this game which cannot be taken off from my chest. But nobody listen, the boosted people will be bad in the game true, but not demoted.. Because this system allow 0/15 to win and 15/0 to lose as i mentioned up there, which means even if they are so baddd they will be getting carried by their teammates and not at the same time, which will force their winrate to be 50% no matter how bad they are or which elo they are. Which will not change the fact that they reach the elo they want and they wont be demoted from it.
: Wouldnt that require tracking a player's location? Which would easily be overcome with a VPN
Ok that make sense actually, you right.... But we should find a way to stop this boosting, like for every 10 games there is 20 players are boosted at least.
: Pay2win exist, and riot dont want to stop it.
And of course as always nobody listen, well at least i tried, keep killing the game. Make the game unfair to play or unable to play. Enjoy the unfair rift. Hey boosted people, you are free to boost your elo's ^^ get what ever elo you want nobody try to stop you here :)
: is it really pay to win? by paying money do you gain any in-game benefits?
Yup, the elo that people work years to get.
: Pay to win =/= Boosting What you say here is boosting. Pay to win is when the game offer you something to get advantage agains the other players who don't pay. SO PAY TO WIN IS WHEN YOU PAY TO WIN.
People pay to get the elo u work for years, if u dont consider that pay to win, i dont know what will let u understand what it means.
: We don't even get there. He doesn't know what "Pay to win" means.
When a bully come to chat, Pay to win, it means pay money to take advantage on the game. And this is taking advantage too, u try so hard to climb, and someone just come pay money at third party website and get the elo u trying to get from years in a min.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > Nope, they can You introduced a limit as to how often they can do this though, which again will hurt players doing nothing wrong.
Well you can check the system, if they use the account in 2 countries so fast, like now Leipzig in germany after 2 min in Russia. Doesnt that show that this account being shared?
Hansiman (EUW)
: So people that travel are not allowed to play the game? Sounds kinda rough.
Nope, they can, as it shows there they transfer it, and after time they can transfer it again, but if there is no limit. Boosted people can share accounts so easily.
Rioter Comments
: Greetings. Obviously this behavior was not cool. Dodging that game is definitely understandable. It's really debateable to what extend you were "punished"... Cause waiting 5 Minutes probably won't kill you. I can understand that you feel like you came out short here, of course it sucks. ---- But I'd like you to actually think about this problem! **How would you avoid such a situation if you were in charge of the game?** Would you allow dodging under any circumstances? Would you allow dodging only if people troll? Then how exactly do you define trolling? And how do you build a system to differenciate?
Simple, first of all, if your team flame, the system should see if they flame, feed, afk. And dont punish the guy who quit after that. If someone went afk, should be lose revert, except for the afk, but give the enemy LP NP. and if you the one who feed, you should be punished for feeding like 5 min waiting first, then 15 min or decrease his LP by double. So he will never feed ever again. That's how to make people see this game is fair to play.
Rioter Comments
: Just a rant. I wouldn't bother reading this. But still..
It's not how things goes, it's a thing i tried to explain to people but nobody listen, i am carry, i got a lot of penta what makes me feel that my team is so useless, when they watch E-sports or guides, because they try it on ranked, and destroy my games so hard. If everyone choosed his own style with playing nobody will be bad, but NOOO everyone look like, hmm lets see e sports. OH HE IS CARRYING THIS WAY AS AURELION SOL!? I SHOULD TRY IT OUT! next game Aurelion sol(0/14/5). And over and over and over again. Non-stop, you will find who feed. And they call it a bad game, nope its not a bad game there is nothing called a bad game, its either he was carrying so hard last games and he lost them and he just gave up, or he is a boosted bought account from ebay or sombody boosted his account, other than that there is nothing called a bad game. And this game, as i experienced until now, its not about skills. Its 80% luck, 20% skills. Because you need too much luck to be filled with humans, and if u are so good at the game and so fed, 1 player in the game can make u feeder or loser in a sec. For example u are fed, but ur jgler decided to go baron to check the enemy. BOOM he is dead, they took baron, finished the game. So dont feel bad, no body is good at this game, at least not anymore. And riot greed for money killed the game, and it will die even more.
Angst Two (EUW)
: There is no justice
Well i made a full forum about that, but everybody disliked it XD and now you talk about it again ^^.
: [Kingstix has good guides for climbing up. He explains what to do, where to do, how to do and why to do Click here to go to his channel. ](https://www.youtube.com/user/KingStixLoL) Good Luck.
Thanks that might help.
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Riot should be honest here. The poll should be: What kind of a buff you want for Tristana.
Vistha Kai (EUNE)
: Damn, I wish there was a "Choose the Next Syndra Skin". That said... it doesn't actually let me vote.
But still, lets try not to vote to the first one, because cmon we can all agree that its the ugliest skin out there XD
: WHERE IS "HEADHUNTER TARIC", "DUNKMASTER SORAKA", "NIGHTMARE ZOE", "POOL PARTY BRAND", "VANDAL IVERN"? I WANT AN ANSWER! _-_ I voted the 3rd one.
Rioter Comments
Shamose (EUW)
: Choose the Next Tristana Skin
i voted for Demonic one.
: I know that you will never listen because you are too selfish but at least ill try.
As i expected, all disvoted, haha no one love being fair ^^. Well as i said on title at least i tried. No point of trying anymore if people just want to be easily claiming their elos by picking champs they dont like.
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDarkinReaper,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=xc2yUiAu,comment-id=000100000000000000020000,timestamp=2019-02-27T19:35:02.898+0000) > > support has assist, it help them just like kills. Everyone has assists. It's part of what comes with LoL being a teamgame.
Yeah you right. In that case i agree with you.
: BUT YOU ARE NOT READING WHAT I AM SAYING. I am simply PROPOSING that this should be how the ranked system should work. I am not STATING that this is HOW IT IS.
yeah i guess XD. Just in case :D here i deleted it, happy? :D
: Please get off the boards, you skim through even the shortest comments and saw that the word "boasted" looks like the word "boosted". You did the same with my comment and that may be my fault for making words bold because you only read 2 or 3 sentences off of my message.
when its long i dont bother to read it, i read first sentence and the highlighted one, and then immediately comment about them, but if i read that there is something interesting, i continue reading until the end. Also i didnt read boasted as boosted or anything. He think that people who played as sion and int and win, should earn too much LP because they did a great job. So it means he believes that boosting strategy is fair. So what type of thing you are telling me i read boasted or boosted? you didnt even read the comments XDD so dont bother.
: Please get off the boards, you skim through even the shortest comments and saw that the word "boasted" looks like the word "boosted". You did the same with my comment and that may be my fault for making words bold because you only read 2 or 3 sentences off of my message.
when its long i dont bother to read it, i read first sentence and the highlighted one, and then immediately comment about them, but if i read that there is something interesting, i continue reading until the end.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: main objective is to kill the enemy nexus, not get good stats{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: The moment when you play support and get 0 kills... Like what the actual %%%% dude? Might as well remove all the enchanters, casters and dps from the game. Just have assasins duke it out with assasins. oh wait, remember how long people played the blood moon event? Thats right, NOT LONG AT ALL
support has assist, it help them just like kills.
Hansiman (EUW)
: It boasted a decent win-rate with little counterplay for the while it was strong. So if a strategy is known to work, but doesn't in the game you encounter it in, it's bannable?
So you like boosting elo or what? this game supposed to be pick your style, not pick the champ we make it strongest and win without skills. Think logically not blindly. If you give someone to win as Aurelion sol and give someone to win as Inting sion, who tried harder? who has more skills? who deserve to win more ?
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