: {{champion:48}} {{champion:57}} are meta supports for a while now. While Trundle is more situational. Maokai is a legit ballanced vanguard support. Trundle is more of the popup in the meta type of guy. Similar to {{champion:9}} {{champion:98}} depending on the meta he's top 10 or top 30. Notice I use the word meta. This means that this guy is actually a solid support pick against & with the right teamcomp. {{champion:80}} is a popular pick in low MMR because of his nasty snowball potentional. Pantheon has one of the strongest lane fases in the entire game and can snowball any game to a disturbing point. This all combine with actually have one of the easiest to land cc's in the game. Patheon is basicly the only AD support that is able to snowball the lane that effectively. But in higher MMR this wouldn't work add all. Up to Silver V, Silver IV you can get away with this. But you will reach your limit in gold on the champion. Add least in that position. With the sighstone item now been build into the support starting item you can't even reach out to vision. Your teammates will get caught and throws will happen on Baron. You basicly have to 1v5 and that's really not healthy for the support position since you won't bring anything to the table beside killing off one priority target and hopefully a GA can give you a second. Right now I would highly recommand to start {{item:3302}}, else go {{item:1036}} with some pots. {{champion:420}} is intressting since you still provide some tankness for yourself team. In lower MMR they don't known how to deal with you and that can be nasthy as a juggernaut support. Your best start is {{item:3302}} so it won't put you in a disadvantage unlike Pantheon. The issue with her is however is that you don't have cc or long range poke. This means that you team needs to cover you in that regard. Works great in flex Q where you have teammates that are willing to help building a comp arround you like {{champion:127}} {{champion:69}} mid, {{champion:113}} jungle, etc... As far marksmen support goes. They exist, the most popular are probally {{champion:21}}, {{champion:22}}, {{champion:17}}, {{champion:10}}, {{champion:81}} & {{champion:126}}. They work really great when their is no jungler. With a jungler it's a little bit more difficult.
Illaoi's passive tentacles and maxing W with healing runes is bae! Yes, I start with Relic shield but, like I said, my first main item is frozen mallet, max W, ezpz engage and with jgl's ganks, it's MONSTER KILL. Tank + Dmg Illaoi. Main items: {{item:3022}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3193}} {{item:3083}}
: >Maybe just point out the behavior and hope they report without actually asking for it? XD But why though? Why not just report him yourself rather than ask others to do it for you?
Maybe multiple reports flagged may help during screening?
: report calling is bannable
Holy shit! Maybe just point out the behavior and hope they report without actually asking for it? XD "Hi, I'd like to point out the griefing behavior of Varus and his refusal to communicate with our team!" and hope that they report :P
: Ok, I can mute chat. But how do I mute troll behaviour?
Politely request your own and the other team to report the troll. "Hi, I request you guys to report Varus for his troll behavior! Under griefing, he is refusing to communicate with us!"
maulocky (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheEpicRude,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uzYrbbY0,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-02-02T11:00:40.999+0000) > > This part is GOLD! > > I often crack jokes, praise my team's kills and narrow death escapes, ask if team needs ganks, share blue and red buffs, insist rift scuttlers often, ward in my teammates lanes, ask for help politely, etc. > > Yes, the ones who carry obviously get honored a lot because it's fun to see the other team dying. > > I also often crack a joke, "And on the fourth day, God said Honor Thy Support/Jgl", and I directly ask for honor if I've been playing good! > > Also, honor is also earnt through ARAM, where it's easier to be helpful and easier to be the honorable mvp! > > Srsly, it isn't hard to be honor worthy. You're just not trying the right way. You can't expect to be honored if you flame in the chat. I see a lot people doing it in my games and they always get away with it. Actualy I have a friend who is literaly a sh%$&! person on league but always gets away with it. He's in bronze yeah but never reported. I guess some people are just lucky af. I wasn't born with any luck at all xD Maybe suicide is actualy an option... Who knows right?! Sadly I'm such an unlucky person that if I try to hang my self the rope will probably break xD
Wait that took a different turn, lol. Just gg wp man!
Pest Fest (EUNE)
: Pest Fest: %%%? Pest Fest: what are you 5? Pest Fest: you are playing a game and say %%% to someone just because i dont play good? Pest Fest: its so important to you? that was my responce mate. I didnt flame at all
Maybe next time just resort to "thanks for the flame, my progressive and productive teammate!"
nikigot333 (EUNE)
: I miss old League of Legends
Can anybody make a TLDR version?
Andrey0345 (EUNE)
: > Troll **_Champion_** Names! > Riot is Rito Fair enough.
Hey I meant that as an example of what this post was for! XD
: Can we have some sort of controls for lower level normal games please?
You don't wanna befriend/team up with anybody despite knowing the advantages it brings, lol. You complain about people who actually take the effort to git gud. This is a community, those matches are 5v5, and the online players are humans not bots! Why do you think participants in tournaments are teams lol. I personally think that restricting premades (even if they're 5 pre) from playing against soloQ players will have matchmaking/logistics problems, and I think it's fine. I, too, prefer not to make friendships on LoL. But I do add players after a ggwp, and I do invite them before I queue.
ApoIlon (EUNE)
: Can somebody calculate...
Suddenly everybody is a {{champion:74}} mad scientist
: Vayne loves Kayn <3 xD Aurelion Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol-La-Ti-Do! Nunu: SOMEBODY TOUCHA YETI'S SPAGHETTI! Zoe looks like Dat Boi! Pantheon the Panthy without Panty Sejuani wants money Kog Maw eats his meat raw <-LOL Lucian the platypusian <--It comes from the worl platypus, you perverts Taric the pentakillaric. *This was made for fun tho, dont be offended and report me at Rito*
{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
maulocky (EUW)
: How does honor system work?!?!
> [{quoted}](name=maulocky,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uzYrbbY0,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-01T19:08:17.054+0000) > > I&amp;#039;honestly 75% of them are legit garbage and it is a surprise how can they still be alive with a brain so damaged like that! If I had such problem in my brain I would probably not live that long so those dudes are doing something well. But the point is I got 10 games chat restrict. So I decided &amp;quot;if you can&amp;#039;t beat them, join them&amp;quot; and now I play ADC (I do suck but in my defense I just started playing ADC!). This part is GOLD! I often crack jokes, praise my team's kills and narrow death escapes, ask if team needs ganks, share blue and red buffs, insist rift scuttlers often, ward in my teammates lanes, ask for help politely, etc. Yes, the ones who carry obviously get honored a lot because it's fun to see the other team dying. I also often crack a joke, "And on the fourth day, God said Honor Thy Support/Jgl", and I directly ask for honor if I've been playing good! Also, honor is also earnt through ARAM, where it's easier to be helpful and easier to be the honorable mvp! Srsly, it isn't hard to be honor worthy. You're just not trying the right way. You can't expect to be honored if you flame in the chat.
: nauti is naughty lul
Tzimpounti (EUNE)
: Buying champions
It was easier to buy champions when IP was there (before BE). They've just made it more competitive and rigorous to own champions! How many levels until you get all the champions? 24 hour gaming sessions' worth of levels!
: You are the one ignoring it. 10% bonus damage to objectives won't help you at all in early/mid game while if your turrets got more def or hp and damage it'll have impact.
Every 100 AA, you get 10AA's worth damage per champion. Not to mention the backdoor possibilities!
: 10% BONUS true damage on turrets early game is not really that helpful tho and late game as i pointed out objectives falls really fast while tanks can just sit afk under turrets and damage them for huge % of their total health with that stupid rune. Also... in my suggestion the bonus damage to epic monsters (nashor and elder) remains. Let's look on the things realistic... infernal drake gives bonus main damage which is op as hell and makes some champions (like veigar for example) extremely powerful. Ocean drakes boosts your early game by healing you and recovering your mana which lets you stay on lane longer and late game you got free recovery between fights so you don't have to recall if you are low. Cloud drake gives movement speed which is also awesome and really benefits to immobile mages or cc tanks (so they can sneak faster and catch the enemy carries for example) while mountain drake... gives a little bonus damage to the turrets?
> while mountain drake... gives a little bonus damage to the turrets? Yes, while mountain drake gives a little **permanent** bonus damage to **all structures and epic monsters** to **your whole team**.
: You are the one ignoring it. 10% bonus damage to objectives won't help you at all in early/mid game while if your turrets got more def or hp and damage it'll have impact.
You want to "_balance this drake compared to the others_" at the risk of imbalancing the whole match. You want to dmg PLUS def. Imbalance much? I prioritize my mountain drakes equally with infernal drake. You make mountain drake sound useless. It's not.
: Very important change regarding spellbook
I think that's part of the gameplay!
Vril Cain (EUW)
: Volibear
With the heal runes, and 1st main item as frozen mallet, I ezpz voli support! Is super annoying when I live after two enemies die! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Suggestion about mountain drake
Why are you ignoring the advantage early and migame?? I don't think the mountain drake needs any rework.
Rioter Comments
Noxxarian (EUNE)
: Draft Pick: What should you do if someone steals your role?
Not here to quote rules, but only my opinion: I say report his fakking premade too! Ideally the rest of your team should report the instalocker. Go 2 mid, and poke their mid so much that their support is forced to come mid lol.
: I like how you seem to imply that are not going to stop flaming if you don't risk a permaban :D. Which is the reason why permabans are actually necessary, because if someone is determined to be an a@@hole, then he will stop playing forcibly, or at the very least he will have to spend mons to buy another account (and losing all his stuff in the process).
My flaming and toxicity were "get your shit together" cries clothed in flaming and toxicity :P (again, not justifying it one bit!) I'll continue to tell my team to get its shit together, but more politely and positively now!
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheEpicRude,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yofijxOX,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-01T17:14:13.193+0000) > > Aaaaaaaaand whether i should read the ToS? Well, honestly, obviously i should. I sincerely hope that you can keep that promise. Not for me or us, the community, but for yourself. Hold on to that positive mindset and build yourself around it. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} *** Regarding the ToS it isn't really necessary to read it. Most of it is just common sense stuff. The only thing some are not aware of is the following: - Riot can ban any account for whatever "reason" they see fit. In other words, Riot could ban me even if I was the most righteous person on the planet. They don't need a reason to ban an account. - Whatever money we invest on the game is essentially lost. We don't own anything. Like the point above, they could even remove anything they want from our accounts. Don't worry though. Those are just generic terms that most companies use. It's not in their best interest to "scam" their customers, even though they could. ######[Terms of Use - Account Termination- point 2.1.2 c)](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#account-termination) and [Terms of Use - Virutal Goods - point 4.3](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#virtual-goods)
One would need to get those clauses deemed by courts after litigation as inapplicable. :P If i can uphold admissiblity out here, it's ezpz to get it so deemed, speaking of those unilateral and arbitrary clauses. PS: i didn't promise i would, i just said i should! :P
: >How about a little support for those who don't want to read the boards and the rules?  If it's too much to read a few lines, then it's too much to keep you in the community.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yofijxOX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-01T14:51:52.063+0000) > > nobody actually reads that text (...) just like they don&#x27;t read the T&amp;C when they make their accounts Hey hey hey. Slow down buddy. I read the ToS everytime it's updated! I need to make sure I'm not selling my soul (again).
If you seriously do that, congratulations! It should be encouraged!
Febos (EUW)
: This is enough to grant you a 14-day suspension. However, you already had one (I'm assuming within 3 months) and because your behaviour didn't improve you were smited with a permanent. Calling your teammates "stupid", "idiot", "f*g", etc; isn't acceptable behaviour. Asking for reports isn't acceptable either. I hope you can learn from this and improve your behaviour, if you decide to keep playing League on another account. Best of luck.
Yes, NOW, I'm not ignorant to my faults in the game in the big picture, and i don't intend to hide or justify my toxicity! I'd love to play LoL without having to make a new account, and i realise my mistake! My behavior in game will definitely be more appropriate hereon. ---- If i may be humble enough to take this opportunity to say : to anyone reading this, i admit my toxic mistakes ingame and it's best not to easily head into a perma ban : that's the lesson i learned, when the 14 day ban was imposed on me... I'm one step away from the permaban, and i don't wanna start over. And if 14 days without LoL seem bad............................... The community provided to me that which i ought to know before playing (reading the ToS). And I'm as grateful for this positive experience, as i will be glad to be sharing it with others ingame; pure fun! _i used to flame the F out of the teammtes. My "stop stupid, idiot top" will turn to "hey jgl can you gank top? I'll hold my lane safe, and I'll get bot rift for you! Mid need ward?"_ Gg wp, you community, you! I owe an apology to all those I've offended ingame. I really do. I ought to have taken the earlier warnings seriously. Can i offer some constructive criticism to rito? I don't care if its ignored : how about a gentle warning from Riot (in the client)... "Hey, you're on your way to **bad bad** behavior. Wanna stay in? Just don't be toxic"; with the idea of reformation? Exactly the same danger of a perma ban before the 14 day ban? -fav champ : tank support. TANK! Been playing on and off since much before pantheon and gp came out. --------- Aaaaaaaaand whether i should read the ToS? Well, honestly, obviously i should.
Magneset (EUW)
: What kind of support? To counter your laziness? Rules needs to be very clear and understandable. The shorter you make the rule set the more loop holes are created. If you do not read the rules, you have no excuse after getting the hammer.
Hey, I totally agree with you! I'm a lawyer IRL and I know the importance of fineprint. And I also understand that it's common sense not to flame. I'm just saying, make the font more readable when you're warning me, man! :P I'm REALLY not interested in reading the bunch of rules for playing a free game. :P
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheEpicRude,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yofijxOX,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-01T14:44:08.375+0000) > > How about a little support for those who don&amp;#039;t want to read the boards and the rules? [Instant Feedback System FAQ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-) > ##PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH: First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction Third Offense: Two Week Suspension Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension > > BUT WHAT IF I REFORM? IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO DOWN THE ESCALATION PATH? Yes! Players who show consistent reform or show positive behavior in their games will help heal their accounts reputation. I believe this isn't too much to understand. The next punishment after a temporary suspension is a permanent one. If you had improved your behaviour you wouldn't be perma-ban now. Do you mind sharing the chat-log?
Game 1 TheEpicRude: STOP STUPID SINGED LET THEM PUSH WE ARE ALL MELEE TheEpicRude: now u dont come singed TheEpicRude: gg ultra idiot TheEpicRude: 4 ap TheEpicRude: 9x the %%%got afk TheEpicRude: ok bye TheEpicRude: mumu why are you not ap TheEpicRude: is ezpz if u fking ap TheEpicRude: they die from ur 1 Q too TheEpicRude: we are fking melee can u stop engaging under their fking tower TheEpicRude: make rylai singed TheEpicRude: 9x this %%%got TheEpicRude: sure TheEpicRude: they are literally all ranged Er, I go around calling people stupid a lot. "Stop stupid, Nidalee" :\ And the %%%got was me referring to Urgot lol, too bad for me. Like how riot is rito... Lux is sux Ryze is rice Zed is ded Mundo is MUNDO Kayle is gayle Galio is gaylio Urgot is %%%ot... In light of this whole experience i believe the toxicity should stay out of the game and in summonerscode.com
: How about a perma-ban warning when meting out the 14 day ban?
Oh my God I just read the text. It does say "permanently suspended" for next time, but damn, that's fine-print! While 14-day suspension is in big-bold font, the "permanently suspended" is at the end of the fine-print that's literally less than half the size! Oh well, this post is redundant, I guess. I apologise for the unnecessary post.
: What is the rotating game mode? And why can't I access it?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: That's the problem: They can't. And even if they could, it would be very easy to fake in order to avoid punishment.
My suggestion is sincere! Please indulge me a bit: Can the admins tell if an attempt is being made reconnecting albeit unsuccessfully? This would help against unfair/undeserved afk's. Anywho, I'm sure the admins/devs know better about the bigger picture!
: How about a perma-ban warning when meting out the 14 day ban?
Oh my God I just read the text. It does say "permanently suspended" for next time, but damn, that's fine-print! While 14-day suspension is in big-bold font, the "permanently suspended" is at the end of the fine-print that's literally less than half the size! Oh well, this post is redundant, I guess. I apologise for the unnecessary post.
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Hansiman (EUNE)
: But that's also a case of verbal harassment, which is punishable in itself.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Sure, queueing up is an intentional action, but we're talking about leaving an active game, not queueing up for one. That's the issue. How would you, as a game developer, detect if someone left intentionally or not?
Also, about intentional AFK, I've always wondered this: Can admins/devs differentiate causes of AFK/DC? In other words, can admins/devs distinguish Alt-F4 from, say, internet went down? This would go a long way!
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Sure, queueing up is an intentional action, but we're talking about leaving an active game, not queueing up for one. That's the issue. How would you, as a game developer, detect if someone left intentionally or not?
Can Riot not work out a way where, if the player who leaves has threatened AFK in chat prior to leaving, then this may be used against him to ascertain "intentional" afk? Also, something a little more controversial : including opponent team's reports (for AFK) for ascertaining "intentiona" afk?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > "we can't really know if it was intentional" - yes we can. Question is: How? I don't know of any way to accurately tell this, other than guess.
Maybe not exhaustively but surely "%%% you guys I'm afk" type of cases ARE identifiable! Why not punish/identify each of those cases where a threat of intentional AFK was given, and subsequently, alt was F4'd, if you know what I mean!
elin990 (EUW)
: People flame jungler more than other roles?
Hey, here's some tips for a good jgl: 1. If you're trying a new build or trying a new jgl experience, then try to use the practice tool first, or looking up some guides. Point is, you don't wanna start a jgl where you cannot effectively take out the jgl monsters. If you gotta B wayyy too often because of your build or whatever, you're bound to lag behind. 2. Not all ganks are for kills. Some jgl ganks are just for poke so that you can neutralize the lane that you're ganking. 3. Always ping before ganking! 4. Always take rift on your way in or out! 5. Have your red and blue perma warded. Trust me. Having said all that, here's a list of things you're not responsible for as a jgl: 1. Laners over-pushing, lol. 2. Laners not warding. 3. Laners not sync'ing your ganks. 4. Laners engaging too early or too late when you gank.
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: it just causes unnecessary drama or extends the existing one
: Is Ivern "good"?
Um, first of all no disrespect to you in case I make any wrong assumptions here! When I play Ivern, I ALWAYS steal their red or blue! The advantage is real! Their jgl is often handicapped (assuming he doesn't counter steal YOUR red/blue when it isn;t warded). Secondly (and assuming your Q aim is good, and that you focus your R shrewdly), Ivern is more sustain-damage than do-damage, relying heavily on teammates. Get better teammates I guess?
: Playing support in solo queue
And on the third day, God said: > Honor thy support.
i HEAL x5 (EUNE)
: Lets Talk about Supports O:)
I often play {{champion:48}}, {{champion:80}}, {{champion:57}} and {{champion:420}} support! No, not troll support. Support. With panth, I don't buy supp item, I rush damage items and my Q pokes the hell out of their ADC (or squishy support like Soraka)! Pantheon's Q+W combo is perfect for jgl to gank since the responsibility of engaging **with a stun** is on me! :D I can even roam the map with Pantheon's ult and be back in time to help my ADC. All in all, any support that can support the ADC counts as a support. Only kills matter. PS: I should warn you guys that when I play panth support, I often become the carry. PS2: I've even played 2 ADC bot! The "Supp" adc does not take farm. The poke is real!
: why? as long as you did nothing wrong, reports do nothing. it doesnt matter how many there are or how often you get them
Oh, I see!! Thanks for clarifying that! I always thought it'd be a good idea to let the /all chat know (in one sentence :P) the story :P
: "defending" yourself from other people flaming you makes no sense
Defend yourself only if the opposite team decides to report against you lol. Otherwise, ignore!
: "I'd rather have a toxic teammate than a bad one"
Personally, the players who annoy me are the ones who refuse to communicate (don't respond pings, don't cover lanes, don't help in ganks, don't follow focus on dragon, tower, etc.). Toxic or not, I don't care. Just respond, God damnit.

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