ZeeDrakon (EUW)
: i needed to be an asshole about it because youre making the most ridiculous points possible. > it is unfair to have a diamond be able to go into a queue with an unranked, have the unranked just go afk, so the diamond can just stomp ? why is it unfair if in a game that matches your group against a group with similar MMR, you LOSE a 5v4? your match history, btw, shows 2 games you lost where against a diamond player, and none of those games an enemy was really AFK. I dont know what youre trying to achieve by making stuff up, but oh well. >I didn't think I would really need to explain this, but being stomped and having nothing you can possibly do is infact, not very fun why is there nothing you can do? if you cannot abuse much worse players or FREE LANES, thats not "having nothing you can possibly do", that is plain beeing bad as fuck and worse than your MMR. >The reason I think it's unfair is because if you put a very skilled player against a not very skilled player, the not very skilled player loses, and I think matchmaking should account for that and queue people with a high elo player against better opponents. thank you for making my argument for me. thats exactly how matchmaking works. if you queue in a premade, youre matched with a premade of roughly the same MMR. and from my experience, if there are big elo discrepancies the MMR is usually biased upwards rather than downwards. what youre saying is basically "if a good and a bad player play together, they should only be playing against good players". that is not fair matchmaking at all.
I am saying generally they go afk, you can't just look at my last 2 games and say "OH MY GOD YOU LIAR". And the reason I say there's nothing we can do, is because either the unranked does go afk, contrary to the last 2 games I played, thus eliminating any chance we have of winning, because our only chance would be to try and get gold from them. I am saying that the queue should put them against higher tier players, so that the ones that don't have the diamond don't just get stomped, because that one good player by far makes up for the unranked or low level they have in their game, especially if they go AFK. Because all they have to do is snowball their lane, roam and put all the other lanes behind, and win the game.
Orthian (EUW)
: Gold V Behaviour
Most people in division 5, are unable to move down, but not good enough for the league they are in, so they get really stressed and try to blame their teams for why they can't climb. Just what I think. In my experience the people in division 5 are the worst in terms of toxicity, apparently diamond 5 is by far the worst.
ZeeDrakon (EUW)
: yeah, there _certainly_ needs to be penalties for queueing with your friends in NORMALS... /s EDIT: oh and to answer your titles question, is that supposed to be a joke? youre literally asking whether or not a skill difference being possible is unfair to the lesser skilled players. what?{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
No it's not a joke, it is unfair to have a diamond be able to go into a queue with an unranked, have the unranked just go afk, so the diamond can just stomp, we run into this game after game, if you felt the need to respond you didn't need to be an asshole about it. It doesn't matter what queue it is, I didn't think I would really need to explain this, but being stomped and having nothing you can possibly do is infact, not very fun, and it desuades me from playing 5 man because my opponents a majority of the time are much better than me. And the reason it's a question is because I am asking, funny enough, I am giving what I run into most of the time I play 5 man normals, and asking if people think it's fair. The reason I think it's unfair is because if you put a very skilled player against a not very skilled player, the not very skilled player loses, and I think matchmaking should account for that and queue people with a high elo player against better opponents.
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