Shiroe x (EUW)
: Yeah i highly doubt this is the full chat log. Try posting the REAL thing instead of your copy paste altered post.
It's the full chat log. I really don't care whether you believe that's the full evidence or not, I just wanted to point out that judging by what you've said, it shows that you KNOW it makes 0 sense to punish someone for that evidence shown.
huckasex (EUW)
: you broke the rules, thus you get punished your actions, your fault deal with it
Nope. Got punished without breaking the rules.
: Let me join :) You are a toxic piece of Teemo's shroms and you deserved that permaban, get rekt EDIT: Enjoyed downvoting the OP's every single comment and upvoting xCillions comments ^^
Kiss ass more.
Minstrel (EUNE)
: I like how everybody (even xCillion, I don't know where he gets the patience for all this) is telling you that your bans are justified and you just respond in the same offensive attitude. You are not in the position to ask for refunds, as you clearly were a toxic part of the community and were justly banned. Whether you choose to accept this or not is on you, we won't be seeing you in-game anyway. Just as a hint, though. Try to realise that _everybody_ here is telling you the same thing, and you still don't want to accept it. We can't all be wrong, now can we?
As a matter of fact, you are dead wrong. You just want to hop on the 'omg toxic community' wagon. You don't know anything; you just want to throw a comment because you think it makes you matter. Just because someone who's clearly biased (much like the people who keep commenting here for no reason, like you) tells me that the ban is justified doesn't mean it is.
Kageryu (EUW)
: Oh you would be surprised how thickheaded people in this community can be. On the old forums we had one guy that even got told by a Rioter that all was in order and was adamant it was a wrong punishment. bumping/recreating his thread for over 1 MONTH. Its baffling...
Why aren't you banned? You basically generalized most people who are punished and called them thickheaded. People like you are such hypocrites.
: If that comment is your idea of offensive, then that says more about you than it does about Snow Enix, to be honest. This is also leaving aside the fact that you aren't proving him wrong.
Listen, go read a book and learn what sarcasm means before you go on online forums giving your unasked for opinion.
Tröll (EUW)
: As I previously said, if you think something I said there (Including telling someone I'm gonna report them) is offensive... then.. I'm just speechless.
Nope. It's an insult. Just like ok bronze is an insult. You won't stop commenting. You're insulting me. I'm gonna report you. ^That makes just about sense as everything you just said.
Tröll (EUW)
: My 'lesson' you're teaching me a 'lesson' now? 1. I mentioned the human error to shed light to the faulty system. 2. I find it offensive that you call me a jerk. Why can't I report you and get you banned for that? Isn't it really worse than me getting a permanent ban for telling someone I'm gonna report them? Or saying 'ok bronze' after they constantly flame me? Am I the ONLY person that sees this here? A permanent ban for that? Seriously? Did I wish cancer upon anyone? Did I tell them to go kill themselves or wish harm on ANYONE like most of the flamers do? How can you even compare what I say to what those people say? Am I crazy or is it you being judgmental over anyone who comes looking for an explanation? Let me reiterate: I did improve my behaviour. I did improve my behaviour. I did improve my behaviour after the 14 day ban. Receiving a permanent ban for the logs shown is an unfunny joke.
Doesn't matter. You still called me a jerk. If someone sucks at the game and I tell them they suck, that's against the rules, but if you call me a jerk because you think I behaved like a jerk, that's alright? Why? You keep telling me I misbehaved. How about SHOW ME where I misbehaved in that evidence you so kindly shoved in my face in that client before you throw words around like that?
: I think Riot misunderstands the situation; "Toxic players" are not always the ones who get angry and use cursewords (that seems to be what this automated system targets), but people who provoke such behaviour through in-game action, rather than words. There is a profanity filter _and_ a mute button, so people talking trash is extremely easy to ignore. It's a lot harder to ignore a Jungler who refuses to gank a lane out of spite because he's mad at his teammates, or conversely someone who goes deliberately stealing Jungle camps because they're mad at the Jungler, or the two people who always refuse surrender votes to annoy people. By now, Riot has bred a community that hates everybody and shouts "TOXIC!" and "FLAMER!" at anyone who says pretty much anything they don't like. At this rate, the game will quickly have its core community banned and the only people still playing being those who communicate with nothing but Pings.
Don't forget the kids who go on a feeding spree and put 'xD' in /all chat. Those will never get banned for some reason.
Tröll (EUW)
: As I previously said, if you think something I said there (Including telling someone I'm gonna report them) is offensive... then.. I'm just speechless.
See, the thing is, you don't come off like you want to help. You come off as a 'holier than thou' By that definition you just supplied, aren't you breaking the rules when you tell me "through your own twisted pair of glasses." Isn't that hurtful? Why is it okay for you to say something like that, but I can't tell someone that they are bronze when they ARE bronze? Why? How am I being hurtful? Telling someone that they are bronze is a 'punishing language' now? Okay, let me tell you: It's not. I don't get your Master Yi reference and I don't think I want to know what it's about. You're seriously offensive. Stop commenting please. Thanks.
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PW8gZu2p,comment-id=00000000000000010000000000000002000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-20T03:43:16.314+0000) > > The link you posted was my last ban. Don't know why you're bringing that up. > > 1. I never said the human error case was the cause for this punishment. > 2. I did improve my behaviour. > 3. I never said money gives me right to break any rule. > 4. That's the entire log shown when I log into the client. It gives you the option to 'copy' it. I brought that up because its recent.. showing you had a justified ban before, and did apparently not learn your lesson. that is why this punishment probably was handed out. That ban, was not "gone and forgotten" after the 14days were over, people told you that in your thread. If you kept up a similar behaviour, the punishment you got now was only a matter of time im afraid :/ 1. You mentioned the human error ban beeing one of your bans. So i clarified that that wouldnt affect you. 2. NO, that thread is from 18days ago, you posted a 14day suspension there.. now correct me if im wrong, but that ban ran out 4 days ago.. you did not reform if today you got another punishment for beeing a "jerk" towards other players. (the system is strict nowdays, thats another topic tho..) 3. "Maybe you Riot shouldn't let 10 year olds decide whether or not people who invested money into this game get punished." I might have missunderstood your intention with that one in regards to money. 4. Fair enough, its just so small ^.^ But yeah, there is some bad/unwanted stuff, and with your recent punishments in mind this is the new way it goes i suppose.
My 'lesson' you're teaching me a 'lesson' now? 1. I mentioned the human error to shed light to the faulty system. 2. I find it offensive that you call me a jerk. Why can't I report you and get you banned for that? Isn't it really worse than me getting a permanent ban for telling someone I'm gonna report them? Or saying 'ok bronze' after they constantly flame me? Am I the ONLY person that sees this here? A permanent ban for that? Seriously? Did I wish cancer upon anyone? Did I tell them to go kill themselves or wish harm on ANYONE like most of the flamers do? How can you even compare what I say to what those people say? Am I crazy or is it you being judgmental over anyone who comes looking for an explanation? Let me reiterate: I did improve my behaviour. I did improve my behaviour. I did improve my behaviour after the 14 day ban. Receiving a permanent ban for the logs shown is an unfunny joke.
Tröll (EUW)
: As I previously said, if you think something I said there (Including telling someone I'm gonna report them) is offensive... then.. I'm just speechless.
There's no violation. You're flaming me right now and you deserve to be banned.
Savage Devi (EUNE)
: I read some text. What I saw was; >Tröll: gonna report u premades Tröll: ur gonna get reported Tröll: ok bronze Yes. Inflammatory and offensive. Extremely. Also when you wonder about the "clean slate" update, that just applied to chat restrictions, not account suspensions. When it comes to suspensions prior punishments will still be taken into account like before.
As I previously said, if you think something I said there (Including telling someone I'm gonna report them) is offensive... then.. I'm just speechless.
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PW8gZu2p,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000000020000,timestamp=2015-09-20T03:26:22.503+0000) > > I don't understand why my last suspension is related to this. I have not been toxic in any form to anyone ever since my last ban was lifted. Maybe ban the people who deserve it for a change. Also, I came across that thread which said everything is wiped clean. How come I was instantly banned? Where's my 10 match mute first? > Yeah, I was already once banned for 2 weeks and then got an email saying it was a human error. > Maybe you Riot shouldn't let 10 year olds decide whether or not people who invested money into this game get punished. This is a major joke. Got banned because I told someone 'ok bronze' after they said 'fucking unranked' to me? Get the hell out of here. [THIS](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/voo5plLr-ban?comment=00010000000000000000) happend not too long ago.. (links to one of my comments from like 18days ago, in your previous suspension thread) You missunderstood a few things it seems, let me try clearing that up: - ONLY chat/ranked restrictions got wiped clean, suspensions remained the same and count the same - The human error case, was not the cause for this punishment (link above to your suspension thread about 18days ago.. considering that was 2 weeks, and its only 18days later now.. yeah well, you did not improve your behaviour im afraid..) - Money invested gives you no right to break the Rules. - If you had not been toxic to anyone after your last ban, where is that log you posted from? Its small, its a few things, but its there.. 4days after your previous punishment, or atleast close to that time?
The link you posted was my last ban. Don't know why you're bringing that up. 1. I never said the human error case was the cause for this punishment. 2. I did improve my behaviour. 3. I never said money gives me right to break any rule. 4. That's the entire log shown when I log into the client. It gives you the option to 'copy' it.
Savage Devi (EUNE)
: But it's not unjust. More reading; **The Summoner's Code**. If you understood the rules you'd see you how broke them.
Getting banned for reason of being 'being extremely inflammatory and offensive' when you're not is unjust. How about you do me and yourself a favor and READ what people type before you reply?
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PW8gZu2p,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-20T02:56:21.218+0000) > > How are you gonna help me? Are you gonna lift my ban? Are you gonna give me my money back? The answer to both is no. Please just stop. I don't need this. I cannot unban you, since that is only possible for Riot, and only if the ban was an error (wich this does not seem to be for me considering your last suspension was not too long ago..) About the Money thing, read ToU and the other stuff you usually click accept on after logging in after each new patch. Or ask support, always an option. You can go ahead and appeal that ban with [Player Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and ask them for more Information on anything you would want to know.
I don't understand why my last suspension is related to this. I have not been toxic in any form to anyone ever since my last ban was lifted. Maybe ban the people who deserve it for a change. Also, I came across that thread which said everything is wiped clean. How come I was instantly banned? Where's my 10 match mute first? Yeah, I was already once banned for 2 weeks and then got an email saying it was a human error. Maybe you Riot shouldn't let 10 year olds decide whether or not people who invested money into this game get punished. This is a major joke. Got banned because I told someone 'ok bronze' after they said 'fucking unranked' to me? Get the hell out of here.
Savage Devi (EUNE)
: You don't get your money back. **Read the terms and conditions and such**, you click "I agree" with every patch that comes out. It's within Riot's every right to suspend your account and not give you back a single dime, and you've agreed to it. So no use in whining about it here.
Not if they are scamming you by banning you unjustly.
Snow Enix (EUW)
: He might not be a "Red", but he is a "Orange", and he's willing to help you out here, so I'd be respectful and kind (that's the least you're gonna need if you want to be unbanned) if i were you. Oh and you won't get your money back - hint : you agree to it everytime there is a new patch. Now, since I'm not a member of the staff or anything, I guess I can be a bit rude and say... Cya on TETRIS mate !!! *Runs fast*
WOW! You're so offensive!! Why aren't you banned?! Yeah. Exactly.
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PW8gZu2p,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2015-09-20T02:32:00.490+0000) > > If anyone finds anything offensive or insulting about what I said then they need a reality check. > > 'reportcalled' warrants you a permanent ban? Okay. I want my money back because this is a scam. Have any intention of answering my Questions? (just so i know if i should stick around to help you where i can..) And yes, reportcalling is a known punishable behaviour (unwanted by a majority of players..).. so is calling summoner's names, mocking them, or belittling them (IE: their ranked status etc.) You do not get your money back, i am fairly certain about that tho..
How are you gonna help me? Are you gonna lift my ban? Are you gonna give me my money back? The answer to both is no. Please just stop. I don't need this.
: How about upgrades to people who intentionally feed..... I swear I never see people getting banned for feeding. Also what is the point of the "Unskilled Player" report button if it does nothing, I think people who get offended at the word "F*ck" need to explore the real word and open up. Lol is a competitive game and people are going to get mad. Learn to take things on the lighter side. -_-
I know. You get banned because you tell someone to shut up but the people going 1/7/2 and still engaging a fight on the enemy team when outnumbered and just feed over and over and ruin the game for others are allowed to play without any consequences.
: I will say this; These new changes are awful. They punish people for responding to harassment more than they punish harassers. I got chat restricted for telling someone off when they started spouting abuse at me in the chat, and of course, chat restrictions limits your ability to communicate **at all** in subsequent games, leading to people accusing you of trolling. I'm seriously pissed at this, it's just unfair to punish people reacting to harassment no matter _what_ they say. It doesn't make a less toxic community, it just makes people angrier. Let me make this perfectly clear; Some people - like myself - suffer from serious real-life issues. In my case, clinical depression. In a community as toxic as League of Legends, it is literally impossible for me to never respond to abusive comments, no matter how hard I try. **It is completley unreasonable to ban, restrict or otherwise punish someone for having a bad day.** We are all people, and people behave irrationally when provoked sometimes, against their own better judgement. Add to this that if someone is having a bad day and letting it out over the chat, then punishing them with a chat restriction only makes their day worse, and worsens their experience with League of Legends overall.
I read comments like yours and add it to the experience I had in this game and it just makes me realize that Riot sucks.
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PW8gZu2p,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-20T02:07:12.948+0000) > > Are you a Rioter? No. Thanks for your input. Move along. There there.. don't be rude, Irrsinn was trying to help/inform you. You probably know this, but previous bans do count against you, so if you had any of them.. this is the logical next step. (you insulted and reportcalled..) Now, i am going to ask you Questions, wether you answer or not is up to you. - Have you had any previous BAN? (14day suspension)? - Is this the complete, unedited log? - Do you think the things you said there are "ok"? - Are you willing to work with my help to figure out what happend to you? (this eventually involves you contacting Player Support, keep this in mind)
If anyone finds anything offensive or insulting about what I said then they need a reality check. 'reportcalled' warrants you a permanent ban? Okay. I want my money back because this is a scam.
MrPsYcHo0o (EUNE)
: my perm ban reason
The fact that you got a ban for this shows how childish this community is. I'm sorry for you.
Ymir (EUW)
: Upcoming Upgrades to Chat Restrictions
Tröll: gonna report u premades Tröll: ur gonna get reported Tröll: assissting enemy team Tröll: its fine i did nothing wrong Tröll: im carrying u Tröll: ok bronze Tröll: op Tröll: would appreciate whoever reports lee sin and ez for constant flame Tröll: plat plays are real Tröll: nice everything Tröll: btw eve jinx is better than u If this is what got me permanent ban, then I demand a refund on every single skin I paid for. It says I'm permanently banned for being extremely inflammatory and offensive. Where do you see me being that in that evidence? I was a refund on the skins I paid because you guys have a backwards system and this is unfair punishment. The following is a quote from one of your threads: "Here’s how we’re fixing these issues: Punishments will rapidly escalate for those who don’t reform. Here’s how it works: First offense: 10 game chat restriction Second offense: 25 game chat restriction Third offense: 2 week ban Fourth offense: Permanent ban We’re reducing the delay between action and consequence (which we’ve observed significantly increases rates of reform) by handing out chat restrictions within 15 minutes of a game’s end. Along those same lines, restricted players now receive escalated punishments as they ‘earn’ them, rather than waiting until their restriction expires to learn what’s next. The offending player now receives direct feedback about their behavior. Players now receive in-client reform cards containing the chat logs their peers found troubling. One last note: because of the scope of these changes, all chat and ranked restrictions will be reset and past restrictions won’t count against you in the new system. Everyone’s slate is wiped clean (for these restrictions), so this is a great time to turn over a new leaf." Quote end. I find it laughable you say you're wiping everyone's slate clean then I get permanently banned without any prior warning WHILE NOT BEING OFFENSIVE TO BEGIN WITH. I want a refund on the skins.
Irrsinn (EUW)
: You will not get you money back. Under no circumstances.
Are you a Rioter? No. Thanks for your input. Move along.
Tröll (EUW)
: Permanent ban
Bump. I want a Rioter to answer this. I want my money back.
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xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=voo5plLr,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-02T22:44:57.554+0000) > > You deserve a 14 day ban because you're toxic. Its ok to be mad, but you are targeting it at the wrong people. You should be mad at yourself, for behaving like someone who most people simple don't want in their games. Take those 14days as a break, learn the lesson, before its too late :(
See? You keep flaming me. Byebye.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=voo5plLr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-09-02T01:53:31.669+0000) > > Don't talk about things you don't understand. take your own advice i guess ^^ > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=voo5plLr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-09-02T01:53:31.669+0000) > >Why is the internet full of people who like to think they're smarter than everyone around them? well i guess the internet is full of people like you then, right? all in all.. i would not want you in my team.. not only because of the chat log you posted (and possibly altered.. hard to know for sure wihtout the actual link) but also your attitude shown here..
You deserve a 14 day ban because you're toxic.
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tröll,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=voo5plLr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-09-02T01:53:31.669+0000) > > Don't talk about things you don't understand. You haven't seen what they were saying to me. Why is the internet full of people who like to think they're smarter than everyone around them? I didn't post this so you get to comment and have your laugh, I posted it so it's seen by a Rioter. If this is your attitude so be it, i was genuinely answering your Q.Q thread about a deserved punishment, and until now it did not make me laugh, but now you did :) I just told you what they said does NOT give you an excuse or reason to break the rules. If you are not willing to accept that, or can't follow the Rules, that is your Problem. Well, go ahead and talk to a Rioter by [sending a Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) to Riot Support.
You deserve a 14 day ban because you're toxic.
: >Give me a break with this game. Well you just got one. See you in 14 days. You're welcome.
You deserve a 14 day ban because you're toxic.
: The best thing to do is the old I&R (Ignore & Report).
It doesn't always work when you've got clueless kids telling you that you suck when they don't even know the very basics of the game. It gets to you. Just like these kids with the passive aggressive comments and 'toxic' remarks. But hey, I'm the one to be banned, right? Not the 0/5 Olaf or the 3/14/11 Blitzcrank who puts a 'XD' face when he goes in the middle of 3 people all by himself. Yeah. I'm banned because I responded to their flaming and called him useless. Guess he can't sleep at night now because I said he was useless after everything he said to me! OOPS!
: Is there a mirror close to you? Go to it. And look at the person you see there. That's all I have to say *sigh*
Guess you need to be banned for 14 days just like me since you're toxic to me now. _sigh_
xCillion (EUW)
: Greetings Well, do you think telling others they are useless/worthless, have 0 brain, are kids, bronze 5 noobs etc is a joke and not toxic? (if they do it to you, you dont like it, if you do it to them it should be ok? what is that logic? :o) Reportcalling is also one of the things the community does not want in their games.. You are not allowed to do that just because others do it to you, in that case as you can read in the Reformcard at the bottom, BOTH players get punished. As retaliation is not acceptable/wanted behaviour in league by the other players. Your actions = your punishment. Their actions = their punishment. (if they did something that breaks the rules ofc, that goes for you too..)
Don't talk about things you don't understand. You haven't seen what they were saying to me. Why is the internet full of people who like to think they're smarter than everyone around them? I didn't post this so you get to comment and have your laugh, I posted it so it's seen by a Rioter.
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